11GB data on T-Mobile, haven't been throttled -- why? - G2 and Desire Z General

So I've noticed that this month my data speeds have not been throttled and I am currently at 11.28 GB of data used. Current tethered speed test results are about 4-6 Mbps up d/l and 2-3 Mbps u/l. When I first went over the 5GB I did receive a text stating that my speeds will be slowed, and also the activity tab in My Device states this as well.
Anyone have any idea why I am still be getting regular speeds? I remember my previous months the speed was unbearably slow after 5GB, but something didn't trigger the throttle this time it seems. I remember when I went over 5GB initially it was a week into my cycle, I was doing tethered video streaming on my laptop overnight and in the morning noticed I had went from 2 GB to 8+. Wonder if that had an effect?

HibikiRush said:
So I've noticed that this month my data speeds have not been throttled and I am currently at 11.28 GB of data used. Current tethered speed test results are about 4-6 Mbps up d/l and 2-3 Mbps u/l. When I first went over the 5GB I did receive a text stating that my speeds will be slowed, and also the activity tab in My Device states this as well.
Anyone have any idea why I am still be getting regular speeds? I remember my previous months the speed was unbearably slow after 5GB, but something didn't trigger the throttle this time it seems. I remember when I went over 5GB initially it was a week into my cycle, I was doing tethered video streaming on my laptop overnight and in the morning noticed I had went from 2 GB to 8+. Wonder if that had an effect?
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Yup u will probably get throttled soon. I think. Its because used like 6gb in one day.
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I don't know about T-Mobile, but here in canada, I have Unlimited data plan with Wind Mobile, they also state on their website about fair usage policy and etc... Once when I asked them about the throttling my speed, they said, because Wind is a new player in Canada, they are trying to gain as many customers and hence they would not stop me from doing anything I want.
Well, now I do exactly what I am supposed to do, turned my phone into HotSpot, connected my Atrix to my G2 through WIFI HotSpot, have my laptop hooked up and ofcourse continuous internet connection on G2 itself, have used about 10GB so far for this month, and I get around 3M Up and 1.1M Down speed...
Enjoying my G2... It ROCKS!!!
If I recall it correctly, you also have unlimited data plan by T-Mobile, only cap is if you exceed 5GB per month, your speed will be reduced, right???

I've gone over the 5GB cap several times on my G2 with T-Mobile. Gotten the text notification but didn't notice a significant drop in speed. Still averaged about 3-5M down.
Running CM 7 if that matters.

It's simple, sometimes the throttling just doesn't take effect. I've seen numerous threads about this and have experienced it first hand myself.

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Tmobile 5 gig threshold

Is this true? 5 gig limit on data plan starting on the 16 of this month?
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The 5 GB limit has been around for a while. But they don't deactivate your service or charge extra if you go over, they just throttle your speed do you can't use data as fast.
gravis86 said:
The 5 GB limit has been around for a while. But they don't deactivate your service or charge extra if you go over, they just throttle your speed do you can't use data as fast.
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The cap was 10 GB, actually. They didn't publish it anywhere but it was there, throttling users back.
There is no ban per say. It's a Cap, and there has been one for a long time.
Does it tell us how much of a decrease we'll see in speeds?
In Turkey, I used VodaFoneTR and after a 100MB limit they hit me with 15KB/s. And I was getting about 5MBPS before the cap. It wasn't too bad at all. Monthly data unlimited was 8TL which is about $5 usd. Very fair for the price.
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Hah, yeah it's real alright. Just a week after upgrading from my G1 I got a text from t-mobile saying I've reached the data limit for my rate plan. Which I think is bull**** since my contract should have been renewed right there and then, and there's NO WAY I used up 10GB in under a week.
I'll have a talk with customer service in a bit. Edge speeds down from hspa+ is a total kick to the balls.
they will be throttling down after 5 gig and also you will have to pay for tethering now as an extra feature which will cost 15 bucks a month, i work for tmobile and spoke to the vice president just yesterday when he came for a visit
Bbe1367 said:
they will be throttling down after 5 gig and also you will have to pay for tethering now as an extra feature which will cost 15 bucks a month, i work for tmobile and spoke to the vice president just yesterday when he came for a visit
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did you need to post twice?
Once it's rooted it will be a non-issue (paid tether anyway).
Is there anyway we can monitor our data usage? The myaccount apps from tmobiles doesn't give me the info.
sheek360 said:
Is there anyway we can monitor our data usage? The myaccount apps from tmobiles doesn't give me the info.
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You have to log into your account at T-Mobile as far as I know.
I have had internet since 2006, does it grandfather in the old unlimited rule? Or has this rule been around for quite some time?
Mog said:
I have had internet since 2006, does it grandfather in the old unlimited rule? Or has this rule been around for quite some time?
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Data is still unlimited, no changes there. The only change is that once you go over 5 GB of data transfer in a billing period, your maximum data speed is decreased to "EDGE speeds" (1 Mbit max, 400 Kbit typical) until the start of your next billing period. You should still connect with HSPA+ (if available), just without the HSPA+ speeds.
Per the T-Mobile contract, they are allowed to make speed changes "in order to improve service" and whether it's 10 GB (old value) or 5 GB (the new value) can be changed without it being a contract modification since they are still providing "unlimited" data service.

More then 5k cap?

I was wondering if t mobile offer more then that 5k cap cuz I have unlimited and we all know its pretty ****ty when you go over it uggggg soooo slowwwee. I go over it with out even teathering lol but ya if anyone know let me know.
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You go over without tethering??? I thought the internet on the phone was setup to use smaller bandwith so we dont go over wow
There was one individual in G2 forums who *supposedly* was throttled and all he had to do is reboot the phone (or switch to edge and back to 3G) to get his speeds back. This was a while ago and I couldn't find the thread at this point but it may work, at least temporary. I never go over so I dont have a way to test it
Good luck.
there is no way to un-cap/throttle yourself when you hit the 5GB limit .. if you have hit it in the middle of the cycle then you are doomed to dial up like speeds for the rest of the cycle.
turning off the phone will not do it and neither will changing the network type cuz you are bound by the computer system that is tied to your number/sim in your account.
and yes the phones are set for mobile view by default which uses about a 3rd less data than full desktop view. So if you took that off or are changing to desktop view then you will use a lot of data for nothing.
if you hit your 5GB limit on the phone and not thru tethering ... you need to lay down the phone every once in awhile.... it'll be good for ya .. promise.
Downloading videos directly to your phone will eat up tons of data. Even if you download on wifi it still uses up your data. After you reach that 5GB plateau you can still use wifi but before you reach that 5GB plateau all wifi DL goes towards your overall data usage. The only way to put videos on your hone is thru your computer. Download on your computer and then hook up your phone to computer and put them directly on your SD Card.
This is obvious to probably everyone here but many think because you are using wifi it doesn't count on usable data. It does. I was throttled because of just that.
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Downloading videos directly to your phone will eat up tons of data. Even if you download on wifi it still uses up your data. After you reach that 5GB plateau you can still use wifi but before you reach that 5GB plateau all wifi DL goes towards your overall data usage. The only way to put videos on your hone is thru your computer. Download on your computer and then hook up your phone to computer and put them directly on your SD Card.
This is obvious to probably everyone here but many think because you are using wifi it doesn't count on usable data. It does. I was throttled because of just that.
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How is it possible for it to count against ya when on wifi? You're not even on TMO's network. I use wifi whenever I am home it doesn't show up at all when I check my account through the website. The CSRs even recommend using wifi when ever possible so you don't go over and get throttled
Ive gone over 5gb in the first 2 days of my billing cycle and have gone up to 30+ gb. Yes I tether. And I still get 3-5mbps dl. Speed test confirmed it and I have no noticeable slowed speed. So I don't believe they slow everyone down. They did optimize the phone to use slower bandwidth but if you watch movies or download them, they eat away at your data
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Browsing or downloading over wireless does not go towards your 5gig cap.
I was just throttled due to going over the limit. I downloaded youtube videos over my RCN wifi connection and it counted against my data consumption. I called into T-Mobile and was told by 2 different people there that data still goes thru the device so it will still count towards usable data. I argued your point forever and they kept telling me just the opposite. I'm going to have to do some testing now.
You guys are correct, wifi does not count on your billable data. I knew that was correct but I was told by two different tech people just the opposite. I finaly went to the tethering dept of T-Mobile and spent 1 hour on the phone with him and he explained it to me without any bull **** that wifi does NOT count as billable data. Thank God. I am sorry if I confused anyone but I thought after speaking to two different tech agents that something had changed. Use your wifi for any downloading or watching anything videos. He broke it down like this,
1 minute of watching any video will use about 3 mb of data.
1 hour of audio will use about 1 mb of data.
PS - these numbers came from the tethering dept. from T-Mobile.
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Ive gone over 5gb in the first 2 days of my billing cycle and have gone up to 30+ gb. Yes I tether. And I still get 3-5mbps dl. Speed test confirmed it and I have no noticeable slowed speed. So I don't believe they slow everyone down. They did optimize the phone to use slower bandwidth but if you watch movies or download them, they eat away at your data
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I thought me hitting 10gbs per billing cycle was bad. I have been throttled down once, and it only lasted a day. My speed was consistently under 100kbps.

Need advice... terrible data connection

ok i just got an atrix 4g and i got the unlimited data because i was grandfathered in coming from an iphone 3gs.
a typical speed test shows like 80kbps down and like 70 up... i think my best was like 800 down and 100 up.
i'm not in the best of locations... i'm at my school in the middle of no where in pa, but when i had my iphone i could atleast sync email in under 15 seconds (now takes minutes)
regardless its ridiculous that i'm paying $30 a month for this..
i haven't installed the latest update yet (so hsupa is not enabled yet).. i'll probably update from the moto site soon
could i have a defective phone? should i call at&t? best buy? any suggestions
Not sure what it could be, but now that you mentioned it....earlier today I was checking my speeds and I was getting .70 and .80 down. Eventually it went back to 2-3 MB down.

3G speeds

Ok, I'm not sure if its just the network in my area, or my phone. My speeds are so horrible, full bars and I'm getting 1.0 kb/sec. Sometimes on a good day it gets into the 30's and 40's , but rarely. I am rooted , and running the latest ota patch. Any ideas, or is Sprints network really that bad now?
Yes... Unlimited at a speed many times slower than other carriers will throttle you back to. However, you can't beat the price - or the unlimited mobile-to-mobile mins.
Edit: My wife and son are yak-fest junkies, who can use 4000 plus mins a month. But they never even dent the 1500 min 3 line family plan we have.
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That's normal for sprint. I haven't gotten above 100kbps since November of 2009.
OP, is that a typo, or do you REALLY mean 1.0Kbps? Or do you mean 1.0Mbps (i.e. 1000kbps)?
I usually get between 160/750kbps at home. I noticed yesterday, in Seattle (I live 30mi north of Seattle), my speeds were much faster. I didn't test, but felt obviously, unquestionably, faster.
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I'm 30 mins north Atlanta.
My 3g avg. 1400/1500kbps dl.
650/750kbps up.
4g has dropped off thou from 9000-11000kbps dl to 4900-6000kpbs.
I don't have stats or benchmarks for my system,but i've noticed here on the east coast/america i've been getting better speeds when downloading and surfing,since about january,i've definitely seen an improvement,they did say at the end of last year that they would be upgrading their towers the first of this year.

Data diet, how do you guys manage?

I'm testing out At&t network to see if the grass is really greener on the other side. So far it is but I'm not allowed to eat as much grass as I want. I'm currently on Sprint with the contract expiring in a few months. I know most of you guys would think this is a slam dunk case. Of course At&t is going to be faster but you gotta live with the limited data and higher price. But you guys don't know that I live in a Sprint Spark city which is Tampa/St Petersburg.
So for the past month while on Sprint, I've been running 4g LTE speed test on my note 2(didn't upgrade to note 3 because no spark antenna) whenever I'm driving to see how much they've improved. Surprisingly, I stay on 4GLTE most of the time and the speed range anywhere from .2Mbps to 24Mbps. I'm getting 12-20 Mbps at home but at work, it is a paltry .2Mbps.
I looked at my data usage last month on Sprint and it was 16GB! The only one that stream video from youtube is my son since he loves to turn off wifi and utililize the 12-17 Mbps LTE. So I blamed that heavy usage on him.
So I got the no contract note 3 for $250 today via FEDEX, set it up and proceeded to run speed test at work. I ran two speed test back to back and got 20Mbps and 17Mbps download speed. Fantastic! Fast like I thought it should be. Then I went and set the data usage limit at 1GB and a warning at 500MB since I signed up for the $50 mobile value share plan (1GB). I glanced down and saw that the two speed test I just ran just consumed 100MB! So much for running speed test head to head against my note 2 on Sprint. Seems I was too quick to blame my son since the speed test I ran on Sprint Note 2 is probably responsible for most of the 16GB usage last month!
So realistically, for 1GB, if I don't stream video and just check email, facebook, web browsing, yelp, google map, will that be enough?
I'm not looking to stay with the mobile value plan because of the tax on top of the $50 plan. I'm switching to Go Phone plan 2.5GB free hot spot plan after I use up my $100 credit for new customer with AT&T. I figured 2.5 gb is plenty since my wife occasionally stream video on her note 3 on Sprint and hardly go over 2gb of usage.
What is you guys typical usage since most of you guys are tech savvy enough to limit background data, disabling sync, notification, etc. I figured 1GB is probably too limited and 2.5 GB should be plenty if I'm not streaming video. I also have plenty of choice for Wifi now that I am both a Brighthouse customer and an AT&T customer.
I use about 2.3 GB per month, most from web browsing at work where there's no wifi.
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I personally use 5-10 gm per month. this is doing anything i want with it and only using wifi at home since i do not have wifi at work (well i do but its filtered and scrubbed)
this would be a few netflix movies, some streaming music through the play store (all access subscriber) and downloading any game/app i want.
What the hell speed test did you run? the Ookla Speedtest.net app uses a 3mb source file.
Also, I don't have a data diet, I have 10gb. I used ~4 last month.
Edit: I don't stream video or audio. I just download (buy) music, surf, Facebook, and download games.
I run Plex, netflix, spotify, Web browsing, facebook, games... pretty much everything. I usually watch one 30 minute tv show over LTE during lunch due to no wireless at work. My usage is around 8gb/month. My wife uses around 1gb since her work has wireless. We use the 10gb plan.
I have been trying to go on a "data diet" since realizing how much I have been using. One thing I am currently trying is PlexPass sync. This allows me to download my TV shows to my device for offline viewing. It's still in beta, and it definitely shows (random unplayable content, breaking its usability). The streaming of Plex works perfectly and I just set the bit rate low to conserve.
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raduque said:
What the hell speed test did you run? the Ookla Speedtest.net app uses a 3mb source file.
Also, I don't have a data diet, I have 10gb. I used ~4 last month.
Edit: I don't stream video or audio. I just download (buy) music, surf, Facebook, and download games.
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Trust me, I'll post screen shot later. The faster your dl and ul speed, the more the Ookla speed test app use. I ran another one at home and got over 20 dl and 7 ul and that tack another 50 MB. On the other hand I streamed Milk music and that only used .5Mb for every minute. Not bad at all.
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I ran three Ookla speedtests and two rootmetric speedtest (7 Mbps not shown). So the higher the speed, the more data it consumes.
i dont watch youtube or stream music/movie.
i use about 1.7gb-1.9gb per month.
i have the old att 2gb plan for 25$.
i just ordered the FreedomPop hotspot, 500mb free data every month.
so now i have 2.5gb a month !
If I don't stream music on Play Music I can stay under 2gb with what I would consider to be "moderately heavy" web browsing (1-2 hours a day maybe) and then crap tons of Hangout messages/texts etc.
If I stream music when i'm driving to work (which I generally do) it goes up to like 3-5gb per month.
I have a 20gb plan with 7 phones for $320 a month, that includes my phone payment and taxes. I use 6 to 8 of the gb myself.
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netnerd said:
i dont watch youtube or stream music/movie.
i use about 1.7gb-1.9gb per month.
i have the old att 2gb plan for 25$.
i just ordered the FreedomPop hotspot, 500mb free data every month.
so now i have 2.5gb a month !
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You know you can be friends with other freedompop users, if you add 10, you get 50MB extra per each friend, making it total 1GB per month for free. But if you get close to 900MB, I heard they cut you off. In your current situation, if you get close to 400MB, you will be cut off.
Also Freedompop uses Sprint's Wi-Max which doesn't have that good coverage. But that depends on where you are.
I'm living with 300MB plan, but I wish I can remove the data completely. I think $20 for 300MB is a rip off.
I have been on a data diet ever since I switched from my 4GB plan 2yr contract to the 2GB value plan with no contract. I usually get speeds up to 25GB/s.
The way I manage is by listening to pandora at work on my work computer on my cell via their wifi... its the only way I can survive programming all day. On saturdays, I still punch about 12 hours on pandora at my side job. Other than that... that is all of my heavy usage. Everything else would only clock about 700MBs a month. ALL OF my updates for apps are done at home on my home wifi since my work wifi doesn't like the stores download packages, its will update some but not all.
Overall i am averaging about 1400 MBs a month. Sometimes just to get my moneys worth... I will purposly DL large so i cap out... even if I don't need it.
I'll bet your 100mb was the phone downloading updates for installed apps? Check Settings -> Data Usage to be sure.
Ookla speed test is ~2.5MB/run
If I don't stream video, I use 250mb/month, plus what I use tethering. I have no idea how people run through 16GB of bandwidth in a month - I don't even do that on my home broadband...
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I'm living with 300MB plan, but I wish I can remove the data completely. I think $20 for 300MB is a rip off.
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Give att a call and tell them you switched to a dumb phone.
Then uncheck the box for Mobile Data from phone.
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Give att a call and tell them you switched to a dumb phone.
Then uncheck the box for Mobile Data from phone.
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Won't work. They have a IMEI database, so they know I'm using a smartphone. Even if you get to take off the data, it'll be added right back on within days.
If I had an international version Note3, that would be a little bit different story. But even then (with unknown IMEI smartphone), they sometimes find out that you have a smartphone, and they slap you with $30 data or whatever charge. It's pure BS.
I'm thinking of moving to AIO wireless once my contract is over. $35 per month with unlimited (throttled data after 500MB) everything.
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I'll bet your 100mb was the phone downloading updates for installed apps? Check Settings -> Data Usage to be sure.
Ookla speed test is ~2.5MB/run
If I don't stream video, I use 250mb/month, plus what I use tethering. I have no idea how people run through 16GB of bandwidth in a month - I don't even do that on my home broadband...
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Nope all apps and therfore the Google play store are downloaded and updated via wifi. Clearly the data usage screen shot showed what used a majority of the 226 Mb. And that was the speed test app and the root metric app. I ran two test shown and it used 100Mb. Ran the third one and it showed 159 Mb used. I got the phone for two days and that is all the data used.
None of this is a big deal. I can effortlessly stayed under 2GB with wifi at work and at home. Just search speed test data hog and you will confirm that it used a lot more than you think. If you're getting 25 Mbps download, it likely used 50 Mb of your data. I ran Speedtest app continuously on my note 2 on sprint and racked up 2.5gb in 7 days. I never paid attention to it until I'm testing at&t. I'm going to switch to the 2.5gb go phone plan anyway so I am sure I can stay under 2.5gb.

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