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why is the storage capacity is diffrent from devic to other?
for ex. my device has 141 MB and my friende device has 190 MB
the ammount of storage memory shown as 'free' depends on the size of the rom you are using, and also what programs you have installed to the phone memory,
He means the storage memory not the program memory ... we want to know the internal memory storage capcity of the Leo !! so we can judge where to install app and games, in device mem or SD mem ... any answer
lol, oh is THAT what he meant, oh, ok.
Right, well the storage memory is 512meg, however a good chunk of that is taken up by the ROM when it installs, and roms are different sizes (anywhere from 175 - 250 meg) .
Also, when you install an app, and choose to install to device instead of sd card, it installs into whatever is left over after the rom has been installed. .
And that is why the 'storage' memory shows around 250 or so total before adding programs.
Clever ****.
thanks but I can't keep on with your sophisticated info about the total storage capcity of the device ... let me tell u what mine is : when I go to settings, then SD card and Phone storage, the Total storage is 194.55 from the first day of using it ... now after about 1 week, I installed a huge amount of apps, themes and games in dev memo and SD card memo, the total storage is the same ... ? but my colleagues total storage capcity is different ( ex 140 MB ) ... shouldn't be the same total capcity in all the devices ? keeping in mind that we have different roms in each our 3 devices ...
Thanks for your help
the total storage memory of a blank hd2 is 512 megabytes. when you load the rom and it installs windows and any programs and extras (facebook app, the example photos and music, etcetera) they all go into that 512 megabytes. whatever is left is the available storage memory.this is then used for programs you instal (ignore storage card) your contacts, temporary files, everything. if you get two completely untouched t mobile hd2s and compare the total storage they should be just about identical, but that will probably be different to an untouched o2 hd2.
when chefs cook roms they often take out lots of stuff.(the photos for instance) so a t mobile phone that has been flashed with a new rom will have a different total storage than thee original.
most people haver roughly 200 to 300(broadly speaking) megabytes storage available.
is there a way to change the internal storage?
I think depend on ROM that you use. Each ROM not same free space.
I would love to find out what could cause the following:
I bought my SGS when I was on holiday in the UK, and I used it to take a few dozen photos.
I used the highest resolution setting which gives a file size of approx 1.5MB for each jpg.
After backing them up on the 'external SD card' , I copied them to my wife's laptop, where she noticed that some of them were really low resolution.
So I checked the file sizes on my Galaxy S, and I was amazed to find that about half of the files were not the expected size.
I selected the option to list them by order of size - the first 20 or so files went from 17KB, 20KB, 35KB, 100KB, 340KB etc... then the remaining 30 or 40 files were all the correct file size, i.e. 1.4MB to 1.5MB.
None of the photos had anything missing regarding the subject, but they were just lower resolution, as though they had been somehow resampled to a smaller number of pixels.
If anyone has any idea as to how they could get corrupted like this, I would love to know.
I just noticed the SD card came preloaded with 7Gbs of stuff inside.. But.. What stuff? I removed everything that I had on the SD and it said it had 7Gb still been used.
I notice that the stock card was only showing half the capacity as well, without any actual files being on it. I would suggest just reformatting the card.
No big deal for me since I'm using a 32GB card but I did notice the size discrepancy.
full 16 gigs here. well, accually 14.7
austin420 said:
full 16 gigs here. well, accually 14.7
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Same for me. What size is the card showing when you put it in a pc directly?
Gipionocheiyort said:
Same for me. What size is the card showing when you put it in a pc directly?
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14.7. And it had around 7.10 used.
The 16GB card shows only 14.7GB because the other 1.3GB is used by the file system/structure when the card is formated. Without the file sytem created on the card, it would be useless as the device would not know where to look for the files you store on the memory card. On a 32GB card the file system created should technicaly be double of the 16GB. My 8GB memory card only shows like 7.4GB after a format if I remember correctly. Hope I answered some questions.
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The 16GB card shows only 14.7GB because the other 1.3GB is used by the file system/structure when the card is formated. Without the file sytem created on the card, it would be useless as the device would not know where to look for the files you store on the memory card. On a 32GB card the file system created should technicaly be double of the 16GB. My 8GB memory card only shows like 7.4GB after a format if I remember correctly. Hope I answered some questions.
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Not really, I think we all know this. I said the memory stick came preloaded with 7Gb of extra stuff.
Mine has over 14GB of free space 16GB card the Epic comes with. Left it as it came in the box and didn't format it. The only things I added to it myself (outside of the stuff the phone's apps adds) were the pictures from my old phone and the rooting/recovery stuff downloaded here.
wait so do you have 7,9 or 14 gigs of space left? Cause i had 14
There's some 14.xGBs of free'd up space on the sd card when you buy it, at least on mine and most people I've talked to, so I don't know what's up with yours coming loaded with 7GBs this mystery data.
I have 14 gigs of free space on my card too.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
Mine didn't come with anything preloaded. 14.7GB free from the getgo. Have you tried just formatting it completely?
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The 16GB card shows only 14.7GB because the other 1.3GB is used by the file system/structure when the card is formated. Without the file sytem created on the card, it would be useless as the device would not know where to look for the files you store on the memory card. On a 32GB card the file system created should technicaly be double of the 16GB. My 8GB memory card only shows like 7.4GB after a format if I remember correctly. Hope I answered some questions.
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um... no...
this is caused by manufacturers marketing vs how computers count bytes.
1 kb = 1024 bytes
1 mb = 1024 x 1024 = 1,048,579 bytes
1 gb = 1024 x 1024 x 1024 = 1,073,741,824 bytes
manufactures market 1 gb = 1,000,000,000 bytes
it would take 17,179,869,184 bytes to be a full 16gb
manufactures only put 16,000,000,000 bytes on a card
((16,000,000,000 / 1024) / 1024) / 1024 = 14.9011612 gb
I remember reading that the prerelease versions of the Epic (like mine) would have the full version of Asphalt 5, and the versions for the public would have the demo only. I had about 7GB full on my card, figured it was a glitch, and formatted. Now I've finally gotten around to downloading Asphalt and it's the demo. Good thing I hate racing games, but still...
If I open ES File Explorer (or any other file manager, for that matter) and check the properties of the sdcard, I get a report of 10.21 GB being used, which is accurate. But if I use the SD Card Analyst tool I get a report of:
Total: 14.96 GB (Accurate)
Used: 8.13 GB (Off by 2 GB)
Avail: 6.83 GB (Off by 2 GB)
Can someone explain why this happens? I tried a couple other file managers and they were also inaccurate, although in different ways. For instance, Astro File Manager reported 10+ GB used (accurate) and 7 GB available (2 GB more than the card holds!).
Thanks.
-Bob-
It's not off, it looks correct to me so far.
Hardware Manufacturer's (General)
1KB = 1,000 bytes
1MB = 1,000 KB = 1,000,000 bytes
1GB = 1,000 MB = 1,000,000 MB = 1,000,000,000 bytes
Software Developer's
1KB = 1,024 bytes
1MB = 1,024 KB = 1,048,576 bytes
1GB = 1,024 MB = 1,048,576 KB = 1,073,741,824 bytes
So, in that sense, 16 GB = 16,000,000,000 bytes
16,000,000,000 /1024^3 = ~14.9 GB
At least for HDD manufacturers anyways. SD cards are pretty similiar
Then you have Partition Table Information, File System Information.
Then you have Clustering.
Cluster = 4096bytes
Meaning any date will take a minimum of 4kb, so even if a file is 1byte, it will take up the full 4kb cluster.
So much wastage huh?
Well, that's just the first part of it.
Then if you have corruption, which I think your SD Card has, then it will give you wonderful issues like wrong file size, wrong partition size, etc.
I have seen many Kingston 4GB reporting themselves as 8GB which sounds like great, but the data keeps getting corrupted so fast, it is totally unusable.
Recently, I've been using my Leo to view scanned maps, large JPEG files 10 to 20 MB, something like 3000x5000 pixels or bigger. Of course, in order to see the full details, I need a 100 %zoom, that is - pixel to pixel. The problem is, no picture viewer or manager I tried, allows me too see those maps in full. Here are some problems :
1. HTC albums - the Zoom In function is limited to 50% or worse, there are a couple of threads here about that - none answered with a solution
2. Default Windows Mobile viewer goes to 100% from the Zoom Toolbar , but if I try to move in another portion of the image after a few moves, or after Zoom Out - it says "Cannot complete the requested action. Out of memory". In Task Manager I see Pictures & Videos is using maximum 10.5 MB of RAM (while I still have 250 Mb free). From there on, there nothing useful can be done with it, it keeps saying the "Out of memory ..."
3. Resco Photo Manager 7.10 - for large files it has the same limited Zoom In as HTC Albums, although in a more perverse way : the view is pixelated at 100% - which means is a fake 100%. In Task Manager I see Resco Photo Manager tries hard not to use more than ... 3 MB of RAM !!! There's no setting for the amount of RAM that can be used by the software ...
So the question is : is there a picture viewer who can take advantage of the great hardware of HD2 ?
I suspect that its due to the very large size of the files you are viewing a 10 or 20 mb file the phone needs much more space than that available to be able to view it - no different on a PC
at default its not viewing at 3000x5000 pixels more like 800 X 600
In Windows XP, I see the default Pictures and Videos Viewer (rundll32.exe) takes 210MB for a 20 MB jpeg file.
So there is enough room in HD2's memory. Maybe WinMo imposes a RAM limit on processes, like XP's limit of 1.5 GB, but much lower ...
Anyhow, I can't understand why the image viewer don't selectively load only the portion of the file displayed on screen ... if RAM is too low.
The conclusion is : no good image viewer under WinMo 6.5