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I have gotten multiple requests from a few devs in the past week, including myn to delete links to their mirrors posted by users. Today, I had to delete a full thread about these. Stop posting links to said nighties. Devs will release the rom when it is ready to be called "beta". The reason they have not opened a new thread about this is because some people perceive the threads like this as "feelers" or with the sole purpose to draw donations, which is by no means the intention of the devs.
This is a final warning about this.
Right on man the devs work there ass off and are always working on something new and fixing problems sucks when people on here jack there links and post them all over here and then take credit for it Happy you did something about it.
It is crap that people feel the need to do things like that. Personally, I don't mess with "nightlies" unless it says AOSP. Stoked about Myn's next release though.
I agree 100%. Glad to see swift action from the XDA Admins / Mods.
Question - Should all links of the new ROMs be off limits, including changelogs and such? For instance, I noticed a link in the Warm 2.2 thread for the changelog for Myn's Synergy ROM.
jdogg836 said:
I agree 100%. Glad to see swift action from the XDA Admins / Mods.
Question - Should all links of the new ROMs be off limits, including changelogs and such? For instance, I noticed a link in the Warm 2.2 thread for the changelog for Myn's Synergy ROM.
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Changelogs for this rom can also be found in infectedrom as well afaik. If the link to the changelog has any way to link back to a mirror or a link to obtain the rom, then I would say it should be off limits. Please link me to the post in question if you can (myn's 2.2 thread is only a gazillion pages long and I don't have all eternity to look for it )
ehh, I think the issues is people don't understand that these rom's are for the experienced user. The Synergy is not released publicly yet because their is a risk some idiot will bork, brick, ruin their phone. also if you want it so badly go to the irc channel that's your best bet for getting the latest and most proper version some user's could think they're fixing something and share it on the forum and next thing you know 20+ dead device's
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Sinistertensai said:
ehh, I think the issues is people don't understand that these rom's are for the experienced user. The Synergy is not released publicly yet because their is a risk some idiot will bork, brick, ruin their phone. also if you want it so badly go to the irc channel that's your best bet for getting the latest and most proper version some user's could think they're fixing something and share it on the forum and next thing you know 20+ dead device's
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great point man.
Although I agree with their general intentions, some developers have not been acknowledging or giving access to the nightly builds even for those who have donated. It's been almost a week since I donated to a developer and have yet to even get an acknowledgement, let alone access to any nighties, and I've seen posts from others who are in the same situation. I know donating does not automatically grant access to the nighties, but I think the developers should also be more forthcoming to those who donated to them.
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Although I agree with their general intentions, some developers have not been acknowledging or giving access to the nightly builds even for those who have donated. It's been almost a week since I donated to a developer and have yet to even get an acknowledgement, let alone access to any nighties, and I've seen posts from others who are in the same situation. I know donating does not automatically grant access to the nighties, but I think the developers should also be more forthcoming to those who donated to them.
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My point exactly. You don't donate to a dev and get automatic access to nighties. You donate because you feel like giving someone something for their hard work and should expect nothing in return. If the dev so happens to grant access in lieu of donations so be it, all the better for you. However, if a dev did post something along the lines of "donators will receive access to nightly builds and early releases", then that is where we would have to step in, as that is considered selling "money for a good or service". Sorry but if you donated, you donated and that is the end of it.
is it ok if i give someone who i know has access to like the myn links, the V links?? cuz right now myns links are broken, but V's arent....... if not, i will stop.... just plz dont ban me
and congrats on your 10,000th post egzthunder!!!!
i made it right, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14567216&postcount=42026, so please, dont ban me egzthunder, i was only trying to help
JGW310 said:
is it ok if i give someone who i know has access to like the myn links, the V links?? cuz right now myns links are broken, but V's arent....... if not, i will stop.... just plz dont ban me
and congrats on your 10,000th post egzthunder!!!!
i made it right, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14567216&postcount=42026, so please, dont ban me egzthunder, i was only trying to help
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Thanks and thanks
Im posting this here, because dont know were to put this.
I think we need more moderator here in the EVO 4G Forum area, because every single Development thread, you can only see people *****ing about the same thing that is already posted, PEOPLE here Don't READ even when your are installing something in your phone that can Break it. ( If you go to a Leak ROM thread, it is clear that you cannot install thoose type of ROMs, and people always are asking that they are having issues installing the ROM, LOL)
If you go to General you can see like 10 thread of the Same Thing, In the Evo 3d Area you can see like 8 topics of Release date, 4 of Root, etc, etc.
My opinion is that we need more moderators in the Forum, The XDA community everyday is becoming bigger, so you need to take that in mind.
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Im posting this here, because dont know were to put this.
I think we need more moderator here in the EVO 4G Forum area, because every single Development thread, you can only see people *****ing about the same thing that is already posted, PEOPLE here Don't READ even when your are installing something in your phone that can Break it. ( If you go to a Leak ROM thread, it is clear that you cannot install thoose type of ROMs, and people always are asking that they are having issues installing the ROM, LOL)
If you go to General you can see like 10 thread of the Same Thing, In the Evo 3d Area you can see like 8 topics of Release date, 4 of Root, etc, etc.
My opinion is that we need more moderators in the Forum, The XDA community everyday is becoming bigger, so you need to take that in mind.
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Agreed. I volunteer
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rockypr said:
Im posting this here, because dont know were to put this.
I think we need more moderator here in the EVO 4G Forum area, because every single Development thread, you can only see people *****ing about the same thing that is already posted, PEOPLE here Don't READ even when your are installing something in your phone that can Break it. ( If you go to a Leak ROM thread, it is clear that you cannot install thoose type of ROMs, and people always are asking that they are having issues installing the ROM, LOL)
If you go to General you can see like 10 thread of the Same Thing, In the Evo 3d Area you can see like 8 topics of Release date, 4 of Root, etc, etc.
My opinion is that we need more moderators in the Forum, The XDA community everyday is becoming bigger, so you need to take that in mind.
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There are 3 moderators assigned here, plus I am always around as well as other Senior Mods. This place has become somewhat chaotic as of lately, but we will control it to the best of our abilities.
Google is your best friend. That's all I gotta say. *Hint*
Ya alot of flame wars going on. Sad people were stealin links and posting the devs hard work and claming it theres. Glad the ADMIN stopped it.
If you've made it a rule to close threads involving the posting of links to nightlies at least somewhere on the site there could be link to the rom!
There is a link posted. Goto the Incredible section and get it there.
rockypr said:
Im posting this here, because dont know were to put this.
I think we need more moderator here in the EVO 4G Forum area, because every single Development thread, you can only see people *****ing about the same thing that is already posted, PEOPLE here Don't READ even when your are installing something in your phone that can Break it. ( If you go to a Leak ROM thread, it is clear that you cannot install thoose type of ROMs, and people always are asking that they are having issues installing the ROM, LOL)
If you go to General you can see like 10 thread of the Same Thing, In the Evo 3d Area you can see like 8 topics of Release date, 4 of Root, etc, etc.
My opinion is that we need more moderators in the Forum, The XDA community everyday is becoming bigger, so you need to take that in mind.
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If you see anything that you feel is against the rules, or shouldn't be posted then please PM me or one of the other assigned Forum Mods for the Evo.
We can't read every individiual thread and do rely on members help. Remember this is your forum, so please help us keep it as clean as we can!
The 3 mods currently looking after this forum are:
josefcrist
toastcfh
And myself. You can PM me directly from the link in my sig.
rolfd said:
If you see anything that you feel is against the rules, or shouldn't be posted then please PM me or one of the other assigned Forum Mods for the Evo.
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THIS. rolfd has been more than helpful each and every time I have sent a private message.
Thanks!
I have created this thread so that I can offer my thoughts on the MiniCM10 ROM for the Xperia x8. Think of this as a pre-review. If you have ANY suggestions, please leave them as a post below.
This is a pre-review of the first version of Mini-CM10 on top of the first version of the jb kernel. Both pieces were created by nobodyAtall.
I would prefer for people to see this as a MICRO review. The ROM is in a beta like state so there will be very little for me to talk about.
If you have not read my review of the MiniCM9 ROM, see HERE
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the mini-man strikes again!
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Yes in deedii :laugh:
A full review will be typed up once MiniCM10 is finalized. Props again to nAa to another great release.
The latest and only version currently of the MiniCM10 ROM for the Xperia x8 16th of August 2012. After using the Mini CyanogenMOD ROM I can guarantee that this ROM has promises of greatness. Many ROM breaking issues however still exist: voice command, sign in issues and so on. I refuse to hammer on these because they will be ironed out later on. So without further or do I will review away on the three main areas.
Visuals
CyanogenMOD stays true to the original gangsta' version of Android. (The vanilla experience). Yet again the ROM continues to offer a beautifully tweaked to impress version of Jelly Bean. Unfortunately, as of now, new wallpapers are missing however I'm sure they will be added later.
Kernel/Performance
I have seen a great increase in overall performance from this ROM. I can safely say that you won't be stumped by 1-2 second delays like you were in CM9. The battery has also, from what I have seen so far, been moderately extended. Getting 4-5 days of moderate use.
Advanced Options & Apps
I have seen no big update in how many advance options are offered. Similarly no new apps have been added. Hopefully this will be changed in the final version. A suggestions would be to have two versions maybe, one with advanced options and one without. Maybe a port of these options from CM7 can be created.
Conclusion
MiniCyanogenMOD10 for the Xperia x8 shows definite signs of the ultimate ROM. I see no reason why the final verison should not be ROTY. (rom of the year). I have tried not to hammer on the bad because everything will be fixed as usual later on by the renowned developer nAa. Drop a thanks by his post if you have benefited from him.
RATING: I will not rate it in its current state. :fingers-crossed: This is out of pure respect for nAa
I have spent quite some time typing this review, please do not troll. All suggestions on the other hand are more than welcome. Please hit 'thanks' if you appreciate my massive effort. Sorry if this is not something you wanted. Even though the guide is long, I call it mini because it does not cover everything.
Check out the ROM
MINICM10
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Great rom on limit hardware...
I just install SRS trumedia then delete dsp manager so I get more free ram.
Cause I can't install super charger and change Trebuchet with others launcher.Any Idea about it ??
Bejjo said:
Great rom on limit hardware...
I just install SRS trumedia then delete dsp manager so I get more free ram.
Cause I can't install super charger and change Trebuchet with others launcher.Any Idea about it ??
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Can you please ask that differently? I don't understand what you mean.
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Can you please ask that differently? I don't understand what you mean.
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I mean about:
1) how to use super charger ?
2) how to change launcher ?
3) how to make it more stable ?
Thanks you...
Bejjo said:
I mean about:
1) how to use super charger ?
2) how to change launcher ?
3) how to make it more stable ?
Thanks you...
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Seeing as this is a review I cannot deem it appropriate to offer tips. Once the rom is finished however, this guide will be produced.
Thankyou again.
How far is this madness gonna go?!
I'd like to stress the fact that our X8 doesn't have what it takes to handle ICS/JB properly.
I appreciate your work, nAa, I tested MiniCM9 twice and I twice returned back to GB with the feeling of satisfaction.
These ROMs can serve as nice experiments, but are very unsuitable for daily use. You even had to expand the system storage at the expense of internal data, forcing others to use sd-ext, bringing potential new issues connected with that. It's obvious that you try to bring this to a usable state, but I doubt that's possible. Anyway, what's the point? GB can be modded to look like ICS and still work like a charm...
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I'd like to stress the fact that our X8 doesn't have what it takes to handle ICS/JB properly.
I appreciate your work, nAa, I tested MiniCM9 twice and I twice returned back to GB with the feeling of satisfaction.
These ROMs can serve as nice experiments, but are very unsuitable for daily use. You even had to expand the system storage at the expense of internal data, forcing others to use sd-ext, bringing potential new issues connected with that. It's obvious that you try to bring this to a usable state, but I doubt that's possible. Anyway, what's the point? GB can be modded to look like ICS and still work like a charm...
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You got a point there. Then I guess it's better to stop working for these devices and let them die.
Development is about breaking the limits. If some of you isn't satisfied with ICS or other custom ROM, please flash Eclair or Donut and enjoy the ride
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I'd like to stress the fact that our X8 doesn't have what it takes to handle ICS/JB properly.
I appreciate your work, nAa, I tested MiniCM9 twice and I twice returned back to GB with the feeling of satisfaction.
These ROMs can serve as nice experiments, but are very unsuitable for daily use. You even had to expand the system storage at the expense of internal data, forcing others to use sd-ext, bringing potential new issues connected with that. It's obvious that you try to bring this to a usable state, but I doubt that's possible. Anyway, what's the point? GB can be modded to look like ICS and still work like a charm...
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And that, my friends, is how soft modded roms are created.
Sorry to disappoint you with a somewhat bad review I understand all that you mentioned fully. I too can see the x8 becoming a legacy device in months to come. I myself think I should trade the Iphone 4s I got as a gift for an S3 because even though phones keep changing, I can see the s3 as a spectacular phone for years to come.
I will support the x8 community with reviews, tips and help until it dissapears. Thankyou for the comment.
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You got a point there. Then I guess it's better to stop working for these devices and let them die.
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do not stop the project is too important to the community! xperia x8 forever!
nobodyAtall said:
You got a point there. Then I guess it's better to stop working for these devices and let them die.
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NOOO, nAa, I don't want to disregard further development on X8. Maybe there's still something to be improved on GB and Froyo...
I tested your MiniCM9 for about a week and I only confirmed what I thought it would be like. Beautiful and attractive, if there is a reason for having it, then it's the look.
However, even though I used swap and a2sd, I still experienced that drawback in responsiveness and RAM management from previous android versions. I admire your persistence and effort. It's interesting watching how much can our X8 take...maybe JB is the end, who knows?
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IAmNice said:
Dunno what you think but a lot of us use ics/jb every day. Yes gb is better but that doesnt mean ics/jb isnt useble for dailg use. And minicm10 is very stable for 1st release
Sent by a nice guy with a nice phone
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Sorry, but I know how ICS works on X8. Try installing 60 apps and use them fully for a week... It really is great and stable, but not suitable for with many apps
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Who uses 60 apps on ics. Your asking for ttrouble when you do that. Browser,whatsapp,xda,winamp and mail app is all I need
Sent by a nice guy with a nice phone
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Yeah, I can't help myself. I have 5 dictionaries, 16 games, audio player, video player, browser, pocket, reference materials to school like periodic table, office, file explorer, xda,TB, reader, web storage apps,...
I always use my X8 like that. I restore it from TB
But with such a small amount as you use...I don't see a problem as using ICS as a daily ROM
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Sorry to disappoint you with a somewhat bad review I understand all that you mentioned fully. I too can see the x8 becoming a legacy device in months to come. I myself think I should trade the Iphone 4s I got as a gift for an S3 because even though phones keep changing, I can see the s3 as a spectacular phone for years to come.
I will support the x8 community with reviews, tips and help until it dissapears. Thankyou for the comment.
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Don't bother, X8's gonna live forever. :good:
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Don't bother, X8's gonna live forever. :good:
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That's for sure. There will always be the wonderful GB ROMs waiting there for any user, all thanks to the devs!
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That's for sure. There will always be the wonderful GB ROMs waiting there for any user, all thanks to the devs!
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Please crawl back under your rock Gantar - You made your point, back-peddled and then started again.
Respect the author here - Start your own thread and voice your opinions - don't spoil other's threads which people find interesting.
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Don't bother, X8's gonna live forever. :good:
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Really don't appreciate that.
You can live in your imaginary world where the x8 is supported forever but we all know it will be abandoned sooner or later.
Also, with no ROMs of your own, guides of your own or support for the x8 community, statements like that will plunge you in very deep.
It's clear you didn't read my post.
XDA is based purely upon reading. If you struggle with that I suggest leaving. I myself speak 3 languages so don't even get me started on the difficulties articulation.
Thanks
thanks also to CtrlAltDeleteIrl.
Hey everyone, nAa thanks for such a great rom, and kernel work and keeping our x8's top notch
I actually wanted to share something with you guys, i've been testing on mini cm10 and managed to upgrade it successfully without formating data partition, and things work excellent.
As new to the forum i can not post into development threads so, here we go
A major downside to this version of jelly bean i think is the a2sd script, which i think is fine, at some extent(data fills up rapidly).
I rely most of time on link2sd app on gingerbread, but its not working in mini cm 10 (works but its buggy)
So i had to make room for my apps somehow (about 120+?), so i wrote a little experimental script based on a2sd, im rusty as it come to scripting but still gets the job done, i wanna somehow forward it to nAa, as i think it works good for my purpose which is:
Move/make symbolic links of:
(link2sd already does this, on mini cm10 is buggy)
data/app/*.apk -> sd-ext
dalvik/@[email protected]*.dex -> sd-ext
data/data/*/lib/*.so -> sd-ext
(this one free's up a lot of space on /data among with libs to sd-ext)
dalvik/@[email protected]*.dex -> sd-ext
(however if we mount bind with a2sd, whole /data/dalvik-cache, this is moved too and makes rom super slow)
dalvik/@[email protected]*.dex -> stays on internal
I ended up with almost a 50/50 ratio of free/used on /data (i just checked i have 153 apps on sd-ext and 3 on internal)
Also had to edit a2sd script so if flags are not set, it doesn't delete dalvik each time on boot, the only thing i don't seem to find how to do is, that this rom deletes the symbolink links of libs on each reboot(filling data partition again on start), maybe you can help out on this one, nAa if you are interesed i could send you the little script, I think you could arrange it to make mini cm 10 much better
keep the good work up!
cheers
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Really don't appreciate that.
You can live in your imaginary world where the x8 is supported forever but we all know it will be abandoned sooner or later.
Also, with no ROMs of your own, guides of your own or support for the x8 community, statements like that will plunge you in very deep.
It's clear you didn't read my post.
XDA is based purely upon reading. If you struggle with that I suggest leaving. I myself speak 3 languages so don't even get me started on the difficulties articulation.
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I read your whole thread before posting, I always read threads here even if I don't log. I will post what I want to post, I have my own opinions you have yours, this is a forum isn't it?, but you don't have the right to belittle me if you don't like my post, oh i forgot! this is the internet, my bad, you have all the right to badmouth me, how convenient it is, wasn't it? BTW, What a helpful thread this is, indeed . Don't flatter yourself with the so called 3 languages that you speak of, who cares about that, not me at least, this is XDA. I will leave your thread, but I will not leave XDA as you suggested. I dont want to flame, but I have the right to defend myself, sorry for my sarcasms. I, myself want to support X8 community, sometimes I post here in the forum to help, but I dont have time to post guides, tips, ROMs, or threads which is......ugh.... massive in terms of effort, because I have a life outside of XDA. Enjoy your stay here Mr. Deftone. Thanks as always for your massive helpful threads. :good: I'm not trolling, am I? LOL.
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I read your whole thread before posting, I always read threads here even if I don't log. I will post what I want to post, I have my own opinions you have yours, this is a forum isn't it?, but you don't have the right to belittle me if you don't like my post, oh i forgot! this is the internet, my bad, you have all the right to badmouth me, how convenient it is, wasn't it? BTW, What a helpful thread this is, indeed . Don't flatter yourself with the so called 3 languages that you speak of, who cares about that, not me at least, this is XDA. I will leave your thread, but I will not leave XDA as you suggested. I dont want to flame, but I have the right to defend myself, sorry for my sarcasms. I, myself want to support X8 community, sometimes I post here in the forum to help, but I dont have time to post guides, tips, ROMs, or threads which is......ugh.... massive in terms of effort, because I have a life outside of XDA. Enjoy your stay here Mr. Deftone. Thanks as always for your massive helpful threads. :good: I'm not trolling, am I? LOL.
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I would say you are. If you want to defend yourself( I mostly agree with your opinion), send a PM to Deftone. This post isn't related to the thread topic in any aspect, so please use PMs to express yourself personally. That's what PMs are for. Have a nice day
Hey guys and girlz,
as many of you know, the developement for our device is not that great and fast because everybody (except from ivendor and arco and maybe some others) is working alone on a ROM/kernel. We could speed this up by building a dev team where all devs for our device and maybe from galaxy w can work together and improve ROM for ROM instead of doing each ROM alone.
Hope we can do this :good:
If anybody is interested, post it here or PM me
Greets and regards,
markey
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markey97 said:
Hey guys and girlz,
as many of you know, the developement for our device is not that great and fast because everybody (except from ivendor and arco and maybe some others) is working alone on a ROM/kernel. We could speed this up by building a dev team where all devs for our device and maybe from galaxy w can work together and improve ROM for ROM instead of doing each ROM alone.
Hope we can do this :good:
If anybody is interested, post it here or PM me
Greets and regards,
markey
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Hm. Mate are you blind? Look at this forum. We have a lot of roms, some are even twice there from 2 different developers.
For me, personally its perfect like it is. Arco and Ivendor as lead developers for CM10. Other devs can contribute or take their work and make a new rom out of it.
Especially for a almost 2 years old device our forum is really awesome and you should be happy for what weve got here.
Just my 2 cents.
P.s: This is the development section. You should ask things like that on the General section, in the i9001 thread.
Sent from my GT-I9001 using xda app-developers app
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Hm. Mate are you blind? Look at this forum. We have a lot of roms, some are even twice there from 2 different developers.
For me, personally its perfect like it is. Arco and Ivendor as lead developers for CM10. Other devs can contribute or take their work and make a new rom out of it.
Especially for a almost 2 years old device our forum is really awesome and you should be happy for what weve got here.
Just my 2 cents.
P.s: This is the development section. You should ask things like that on the General section, in the i9001 thread.
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First of all, i appreciate all the work of ivendor , skywalker, brood, xistance and arco and others who did an amazing job of porting major roms to our device. But i must honestly say, i agree on some points with the OP. It is amazing with what we achieved on our small but awesome community, but our phone is getting old and eventually we will be left behind. So now it is the best time to combine all of the knowledge that is hidden in our i9001 section to ensure the future.
In the past year i have been in this section i saw a lot of stuff that could be fixed faster if people would communicate more, like the well known cm9 camera problem (i dont know for sure there was miscommunication as i dont know what happened in the background). A dev team would be awesome.
But i am afraid that this won't work anymore. The glorious days of the i9001 are over. Many good devs left us.
But is is worth the shot. Would be so awesome! If you have any android knowledge, please join.
(I am to stupid. I cant join. I know how qtADB works but that is all).
Also i like the idea of combining the two devices and make a giant dev team for both so we can benefit from there knowledge and they from ours!
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XeLLaR* said:
Hm. Mate are you blind? Look at this forum. We have a lot of roms, some are even twice there from 2 different developers.
For me, personally its perfect like it is. Arco and Ivendor as lead developers for CM10. Other devs can contribute or take their work and make a new rom out of it.
Especially for a almost 2 years old device our forum is really awesome and you should be happy for what weve got here.
Just my 2 cents.
P.s: This is the development section. You should ask things like that on the General section, in the i9001 thread.
Sent from my GT-I9001 using xda app-developers app
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No i'm not, otherwise I couldn't have read the forum and written this here
(Just joking)
I know that we have a lot of ROMs, but there are some from 2 different developers because one of them hasn't updated very long or stopped the project and then a new dev took the work.
Thats your personal opinion and I accept it.
I mean this all because of the bugs that have to be fixed.
No its not that awesome, look at the dhd, they have a big dev team who solves most of the bugs there and they have fully functional Android 4.2 and MANY more ROMs than we have also have a look at some other 2 or more year old devices, most of them have big dev teams who do fast and great work.
I really appreciate the work of all our developers (!!we have a 3.4 kernel which even much newer and better devices don't have!!) but we can make this even better and faster.
Thanks i know this but in general section we couldn't get a team together and i also forgot about this section because i mostly (nearly only) use the developement section
Greets and regards,
markey
I seem to agree with xellar's view. Our I9001 forum is great as it is for a two year old device and development seems to be moving forward at a well-placed pace. I dont see any point in creating a ''dev team'' . Dont get me wrong , I'd love to see it happen. But Im comfortable with the pace here .
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I would also apreciate a dev. BUT the developement of the last 2 years was that good, that i can't comlpain on anything. It works very well the way it goes now. Maybe in the near future (~6 moths) when more importent (doesn't mean the other are unimportant) devs leave the s+ and 5.0 will be roll out, maybe then we need a dev-team.
But we have already s.t. like dev-teams:
Arco and Ivendor (CM9/10)
The kernel devs (Erik, castagna, Biagio, Christopher, ...)
Xistance and Doom (CM10.1)
They all share allready there knowledge and function.
So... No need to hurry in my opinion :beer:
"...nothing is more powerful than a young boy's wish. Except an Apache helicopter..." -Ted
i think we have a lack of devs contributing to really port the newer versions of android. its only arco and ivendor who are doing this and since arco wanted to concentrate more on his own device its only ivendor (arco is yet still involved with our phone). everyone else is "just" forking from ivendor, aokp, aosp and paranoid which is great and which is not necessarily easy. without them there would be nothing else but the cm rom. still its not comparable to ivendors or arcos work. i dont want to diminish the importance of the work of others (sadly i have to always mention it when saying things like that...). i just didn't see them commit to ivendors github and ivendors credits concede my point.
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i think we have a lack of devs contributing to really port the newer versions of android. its only arco and ivendor who are doing this and since arco wanted to concentrate more on his own device its only ivendor (arco is yet still involved with our phone). everyone else is "just" forking from ivendor, aokp, aosp and paranoid which is great and which is not necessarily easy. without them there would be nothing else but the cm rom. still its not comparable to ivendors or arcos work. i dont want to diminish the importance of the work of others (sadly i have to always mention it when saying things like that...). i just didn't see them commit to ivendors github and ivendors credits concede my point.
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As true as this is, I still don't like the fact that you say we just fork their work. Both arco and ivendor haven't even started doing any real work on 4.2, forget giving us anything. Camcory and I have brought 4.2 by ourselves, just using arco's kernel source(which is REALLY important so I'm saying nothing to arco).
you probably saw what a mess the "perfectly working cm7" was even though mazen said hes not a real developer. when the 3.4 kernel came up it turned out to be not properly ported. no offense to both of those guys since cm7 actually was usable and the kernel had its right to exist (educk, if you read this, no need to defend yourself, i've read the whole thread).
but you must understand that im kind of suspicious with new things since i don't know if you know what youre doing. im not judging, i really don't know because i'm not qualified. also i dont see anything else going on on your github but your 4.2 porting. so i cant see any references. i also dont see any commits from camcory. thats another thing i cant get an opinion about.
but arco and ivendor have proven to be pretty skilled. i remember someone saying we would never have a 3.x kernel because someone who wanted to port it would be insane...
im still thankful for what youre doing since if ivendor quits its all on you
and im sorry you got in the "just forking" cathegory and everybody else who doesn't feel he belongs there. im just generalizing...
just actually saw your sig. still doesn't change much
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you probably saw what a mess the "perfectly working cm7" was even though mazen said hes not a real developer. when the 3.4 kernel came up it turned out to be not properly ported. no offense to both of those guys since cm7 actually was usable and the kernel had its right to exist (educk, if you read this, no need to defend yourself, i've read the whole thread).
but you must understand that im kind of suspicious with new things since i don't know if you know what youre doing. im not judging, i really don't know because i'm not qualified. also i dont see anything else going on on your github but your 4.2 porting. so i cant see any references. i also dont see any commits from camcory. thats another thing i cant get an opinion about.
but arco and ivendor have proven to be pretty skilled. i remember someone saying we would never have a 3.x kernel because someone who wanted to port it would be insane...
im still thankful for what youre doing since if ivendor quits its all on you
and im sorry you got in the "just forking" cathegory and everybody else who doesn't feel he belongs there. im just generalizing...
just actually saw your sig. still doesn't change much
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Only one thing to say:: does not make any sense at all...
What op asked is on team..wats happening here is just nonsense..if somebody interested to work with him pls do it..if u are not interested get the f** k out of here...its not must that each and everyone has to put their point of view..if u are ready to help then help..otherwise leave from this thread...simple....
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This thread needs to be closed. Its like a slap in the face for all of our developers. Shame on you! Show some respect to them. They sacrifiy a lot time to give us a better user experience for our phones but well, everyone is like "hurrdhurr dat fone is not even like a galaxy s3 now brah after flasching tis rom my fone suks bad ass".. Instead of saying thanks to the developers or donate some buck to them for a fresh beer or something.
Always remember this is a single core device, with a midrange chipset and it cant handle even close as much as a S3 or S2.
We have a fully working (vsync and tripple buffer are working and all ither stuff) Jellybean cm10. Not even the s2 or s3 have this because of the lack of sources for their exynos cpus.
I hate this unrepectless behavior.
Be happy with what you got here FOR FREE. And for a Non-flagship device like our i9001, we have A HELL OF A LOT roms and kernels!
Get your **** together people.
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Disrespectfull: YES understandeble: YES.
At our forum/development we got 1-person teams. Some ROMS are made with someone on the background (CM9/CM10/CM10.1).. But the other ROMS that are based on these are made and maintained by 1 person.
I got the feeling that some of us dont have PATIENCE..
And that is something what is very stupid.
Teams are working faster and fixing faster and better bugs in ROMS, that is true.
If the OP want to make a team just ask some developers for godssake. These topic are as disrespectfull as saying WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO UPDATE OR FIXING THIS OR THAT in every goddamm topic.
Just my opnion..
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you probably saw what a mess the "perfectly working cm7" was even though mazen said hes not a real developer. when the 3.4 kernel came up it turned out to be not properly ported. no offense to both of those guys since cm7 actually was usable and the kernel had its right to exist (educk, if you read this, no need to defend yourself, i've read the whole thread).
but you must understand that im kind of suspicious with new things since i don't know if you know what youre doing. im not judging, i really don't know because i'm not qualified. also i dont see anything else going on on your github but your 4.2 porting. so i cant see any references. i also dont see any commits from camcory. thats another thing i cant get an opinion about.
but arco and ivendor have proven to be pretty skilled. i remember someone saying we would never have a 3.x kernel because someone who wanted to port it would be insane...
im still thankful for what youre doing since if ivendor quits its all on you
and im sorry you got in the "just forking" cathegory and everybody else who doesn't feel he belongs there. im just generalizing...
just actually saw your sig. still doesn't change much
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Alright, even through, I shouldn't have any comments here as you already screw things up really bad, I feel like I must do it to clear things up a bit around here.
First of all, you said yourself that you don't have any knowledge related to software development, so why are you messing with people that actually devote time to do it? If you have no ideea what development is, why are you talking about it in this manner? I mean, it is ok to ask or to make mistakes, everybody does, nobody is perfect but I consider this post offensive and I must defend myself here.
Second, as far as I'm consern, my GitHub is MINE and I and only I will decide when to push something there. I cannot be forced by anyone to do anything. So, your sentece "I didn's see anything going on on your github" so what?!? Tell me, why should I post anything just for you to see it? Ah, you think I lack activity? Again, so what? I or any other Open Source developer cannot be forced by anyone to publish something. We do this because we like it, we are not paid for it. Maybe if you would pay me to do these things, yeah you could have the right to judge my activity. This is open source, this is Android, the developers are bringing stuff to the end user but the end user is free to choose if he wants to use that piece of software or if he doesn't want to use that software. Same applies to you, you don't have to flash anything on your phone just because it's there online, if you don't like it, don't use it .
About my 3.4 kernel. I mentioned in the OP of the thread that it is an early "alpha" nothing more. I even used the word "preview". If the end user doesn't like the way the kernel is, than he wont use it.
Oh, and I'm not supposed to say this but I'll take this opportunity just for you to see that I'm not lacking activity and actually I want to develop that 3.4 kernel, also I'll explain why I didn't update anything on github.
I worked locally, and everytime I fixed something, 2 other errors came up, after I fixed those 2, another 3 came up and so on. That's why I choosed not to push anything to git until I get something concret. I said this a million times actually: I have no ideea when that kernel will be ready and if it will be ready, I am going to decide if it will be published to git and XDA or not. This is my personal decision, you can't influence me in any way to do anything.
Also, I'm not a full time developer, I'm still a beginer, I'm still learning things here and I choosed to share my work with others, here on XDA because I thought that my work could be usefull. If you or anyone else don't find it usefull, as I said, don't use it .
Also, ivendor won't quit either and there is nothing on me...again, you are trying to push me...this is hilarious...I choosed to start the 3.4 kernel project but that doesn't mean that I must finish it... I really hope you understood something from this post, if not please, just let it go and ignore it. Also, there is no need to apologise, you were wrong by trying to put pressure on me but I ignored it, as you probaly noticed.
Cheers,
Erik
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Argument:
Insulting to our developers an absolutly not development related..
Cheers
Thread Closed:
This topic has turned to a flame war and no longer serves a purpose.
Appreciate the work the devs do, as they aren't required to do anything...
~ The-Captain
Welcome guys once again . I don't want make this thread super brilliant and stylish, it's just for me and you to notice, how's projects going. As you should know (hopefully), I'm back with 3 projects for Xperia Play (and X10 too), so 6 projects at all is not easy way, so I need some place to make everything clear and most important. This thread have this destiny. Don't forget it's not a help thread, they will appear in the right time, when every project will be ready to put on XDA. Thanks for understand and being with me even if I was too quiet too long, but my justification is more projects in one time ^^. See you all, and have a nice day!
Moderators: If this thread is useless in your feelings, please contact me, don't delete it without any words, cause I'll lost many informations . Thanks .
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Xperia Play:
1) DiXperia 3 "Enormous" - Just like 1 and 2, it will be friendly for users and gamers - just for everything, Play can handle those two destinations together in one piece . Expect newest Sony framework, with good free RAM, fast ecosystem and good scripts .
2) DiXperia "Perennial" - New project in this community, it will be made for hardcore gamers, with pretty (for now just plans) look of topic, to give you feel you're really using something different . As we know, GB is the best system for games on XPlay, so it will stay in this project too, with tons of adjustments .
3) DiXperia "Energizer" - The next one new one . It will be a fresh made by me, cause on Play I was always on GB. Now, with Energizer, it will change. JB on the base, with those part of community, who don't care much much MUCH about games (it doesn't mean they don't play at all) but they just want new ROM with new things/ports and of course stability and performance - my priority all the time .
It's a short review of non-exist projects for now, but soon I will start working on all of them, of course I will need help if anyone want to give me a hand . I can say, some things could change in the future, but it's unnecessary in my opinion - all projects seems to have good destiny for itself, and everyone should find something for himself/herself ^^.
Feel free guys/girls to ask a questions, so I can answer it as soon as possible . Thank you for your waiting, and wait once again, maybe longer! 6 projects, with my personal life, school, sleep (crazy!), sports, family etc. will be hard but....If I say something - I always keep one's word . Cheers guys!
Also, don't forget this this is NOT helpful, but it doesn't mean you can't give some advices for me, to apply some things for projects .
And one more, most important - I will need some guys to help:
- 3 persons to make help thread for each ROM (or maybe one person, but I don't know if he/she will hold 3 threads ). [GOT 2]
- Some graphics/visual buddies to help me with ROM styles and threads look-like. [NO NEED ANYMORE!]
- Stable and certain testers (3 to 6) [NO NEED ANYMORE!]
- Kernel Developer for DXEngine Environment [NO NEED ANYMORE!]
- If you think you are ideal person to help me in anything, like making me coffe or sandwiches, write here some clever idea .
No big news about ROMs for now, but next weekend I will try to collect sources for DX3 .
EDIT:
People who wants to help:
-Shaiaz - Graphic designer, thank you!
-pedyvirus - Tester #1, and owner of discussion romthread #1 (DiXperia 3) thank you!
-Pizza_Dox - Tester #2, and owner of discussion romthread #2 (DiXperia Perennial), thank you!
-mocool05 - Tester #3, thank you!
-smokerman - owner of discussion romthread #3 (DiXperia Energizer), thank you!
-abdel12345 - Tester #4, thank you!
-sheraro - Tester #5 (+bootanimation helper), thank you!
-extremetempz - Tester #6, and Kernel Developer, thank you!
DiKeJ said:
- Some graphics/visual buddies to help me with ROM styles and threads look-like.
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This one i might be able to help a little with You just have to ask if you wanna see anything i have made
If you able to send some work via PM - I'm ready . Thank you for reply ^^.
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i can be your tester i don't have any problem when you need testers(maybe im on vacation when you need testers.the time is unknown)
update:i flashed all the gb roms in our forum and also i was tester of a rom about 1 moth a go. i know my job
I can also be your tester, And if you want help with General moding and etc...
Also How are your Hands? (im sorry if im asking this in a werid way...)
Great 2 C U back in the Community,
Tester here! Flash roms often, and would love to teat and report back to you. As a plus im on summer vac. So I have hours to kill.
From The god of gaming, the R800i Xperia Play
mocool05 said:
Tester here! Flash roms often, and would love to teat and report back to you. As a plus im on summer vac. So I have hours to kill.
From The god of gaming, the R800i Xperia Play
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Yea same im on a summer vacation in 3 weeks for 2 months
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Yea same im on a summer vacation in 3 weeks for 2 months
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Awsome. Planing anything?
From The god of gaming, the R800i Xperia Play
Thank you guys, let's just say we have minimum testers here, you're awesome, really! .
Pizza_Dox, my hands are much better, but it's just result of not developping for a long time, also not typing much on keyboard. And good rehabilitation, should make me resistant for future work, I know how to avoid pain etc.. Thanks for asking buddy ^^.
Your Welcome, Also Glad so much that your back , subed to this topic incase of updates,
Hope your hands get better over time!
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Your Welcome, Also Glad so much that your back , subed to this topic incase of updates,
Hope your hands get better over time!
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Same here. Hope all goes well
From The god of gaming, the R800i Xperia Play
3 persons to make help thread for each ROM
i can help you in this..dont know if i can handle 3 threads at same time..but i can take care of one at least,coz i have 2 of my one..MIUI gamer edition (GB) and MIUIv5(JB).
glad you are better,and back to play and x10.
I want around when you were here I'm the beginning but I'm glad to see your better. I can help test for sure if you need anymore. Im on an r800x so I won't be able to test service bit that will probably work well anyway since its based on stock ( I think). I can test games and smoothness and other uses. Also I might be able help with one of the threads but not sure yet and device I don't have the gsm version it might not be the best idea
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will test anything here ! can make custom bootanimations too
Is this rom will run on neo l? Tnx
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Jesus, guys, I'm limited to 8 thanks per day, so can't click on newer post . But be sure I'm preety amazed and excited about your willingness for help . Let's just say, for now I have enough testers, so no need to ask for it.
myk69, I've heard that some Neo L ROMs appear on Play, after some edits - I'm sure official version of my projects won't boot on your device, but some Dev with Neo L will know what to do to make it . I'm glad not only Play users want DiXperias .
im willing to test anything since my xperia is my gaming phone
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If you able to send some work via PM - I'm ready . Thank you for reply ^^.
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I'll send something when i get home
Just for curiosity, do you need testers for each rom or like 3 PER ROM ? I'm curios, i see a point in both, like the ability to compare them while in testing, like "This rom is lacking this feature which the other ROM has" something like that
Great to see you back! :good::fingers-crossed::good:
Hello Friends From XDA!
The Intension Of This Post,
is collecting signatures (or orders) to know how many users want to have a multiboot kernel (GB / ICS / JB)
as the current and (Turbo Kernel 3.1) but more stable and with better performance ..
Users who want to, and they would like a kernel so ..
please do so knowing in this post ..
if possible then we'll ask the developers,
to see if any are encouraged, or have time to continue with the development of (turbo kernel 3.1)
which still has some bugs and lacks optmizar a little more for performance ..
PS: I think we can have (GB / ICS / JB) installed simultaneously is one of the most brilliant things we've had for our device, not it???
Really, do you think that the multiboot thing that is not developed for months will be restarted only because you do a poll and ask to someone else to do the work?
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No one will do what you want, if you want to get this problems fixed, just learn C and kernel programming and do it for yourself, don't forget that people have a real life...
Wow this thread didnt go as the op intended lol but people need to be realistic. Im sure evryone would like to see a kernel like this. Anyways my play seems to have finally died (i think its the flex cable) so until im back in the usa i cant fix it and by then i might just not bother
@gangstermartorell & @[email protected] , I think you have no right to make that kind of comment, if someone does not like the idea, or do not sign the petition and ready .. the only ones who have the right to complain if the developers do not like the idea .. or sorry! you are developers?? no ... lol.
ah! and @ abdel12345, thanks for your comment. and sorry about your Xplay .. : (.. I just came a few days you thinking of buying a flex, to have spare just in case, and now with this that happened to you .. and I am convinced ..
I keep my Xplay much longer .. and now I see PPSSPP progress, and future NDS emulator (DRASTIC) even better ..
And do you have any right to demanding such thing to people? I think that these threads have to be deleted because are extremely contained with SPAM.
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And do you have any right to demanding such thing to people? I think that these threads have to be deleted because are extremely contained with SPAM.
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I think you did not understand the intention of the post .. the intention of the post.'s collecting signatures to see if people would like a kernel multiboot .. and then if people support the idea.
Please ask the developers .. and if you do not want any problems .. no .. this all more than good. no intension to demand anything from anyone .. is more, the developer (DiKeJ) .. very kindly said he'd be happy, (when I have free time) to support this idea .. and what's more, they also help to several developers would ask as (extremetempz & Wegdess)
Wedgess already said that he will not work to the multiboot things months ago cause this is the work of cosmicDan, so it is also a form of respect for him.
Extremetempz, really I will not start any flame, but looking his thread (not haved time to look his github, maybe I am wrong) seems to me more a user that recompile sources and add some overclock than a kernel developer, so I don't think that he can/will pick up this work.
Sorry if I say something that you don't like, but what we are saying sadly is the reality, our board haven't a lot of skilled developers, we have only some ports from the mogami board, so don't expect so much
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We don't need a multiboot kernel, we just need a 3.x.x kernel, which would allow us to have a working and smooth android 4.3 on our xperia plays