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Honeycomb 3.1 brought us a lot of minor tweaks and fixes, but I'm finding the new Quick Controls in the stock browser really addictive! Holding the tablet in landscape view, it's just soooo easy to slide in my right (or left) thumb and navigate backward, forward, to favorites, or refresh the page. Almost effortless - as if I needed to expend even less energy in the recliner browsing the web
Regardless of the little annoyances (like that infamous keyboard lag in some form boxes), I'm sticking with the stock browser for that feature alone.
Tigrev said:
Honeycomb 3.1 brought us a lot of minor tweaks and fixes, but I'm finding the new Quick Controls in the stock browser really addictive! Holding the tablet in landscape view, it's just soooo easy to slide in my right (or left) thumb and navigate backward, forward, to favorites, or refresh the page. Almost effortless - as if I needed to expend even less energy in the recliner browsing the web
Regardless of the little annoyances (like that infamous keyboard lag in some form boxes), I'm sticking with the stock browser for that feature alone.
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Quick controls rock. I love that feature.
The only thing I miss is there doesn't seem to be a way to close/kill a tab if you enable quick controls.
Anyone know how to do this ?
i dont really like it because everytime i go to scroll i always end up poping that thing up instead from the side, u also cant use the slide bar with it which sucks. but each there own its just my own opinion
ozym said:
Quick controls rock. I love that feature.
The only thing I miss is there doesn't seem to be a way to close/kill a tab if you enable quick controls.
Anyone know how to do this ?
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I just use Quick Controls to open that tab (if it's not already) and then the 'X' to close it ... two thumb clicks
Tigrev said:
I just use Quick Controls to open that tab (if it's not already) and then the 'X' to close it ... two thumb clicks
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Doh! I hadn't realised that those keys were + for new tab and x to close tab.
I assumed they were for zoom or something.
Good call
Yeah, I've been using the quick controls, they're great except the tab switching could be better.
I like quick controls when using the device in tablet mode, but it makes it impossible to use the browser when docked using the track pad and keyboard.
Tigrev said:
Honeycomb 3.1 brought us a lot of minor tweaks and fixes, but I'm finding the new Quick Controls in the stock browser really addictive! Holding the tablet in landscape view, it's just soooo easy to slide in my right (or left) thumb and navigate backward, forward, to favorites, or refresh the page. Almost effortless - as if I needed to expend even less energy in the recliner browsing the web
Regardless of the little annoyances (like that infamous keyboard lag in some form boxes), I'm sticking with the stock browser for that feature alone.
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been using it since the 3.1 update, absolutely love it... no address bar, no bookmarks, no buttons... love it.
Love it from day one with 3.0 now could they fix the lag!
rickhuizinga said:
I like quick controls when using the device in tablet mode, but it makes it impossible to use the browser when docked using the track pad and keyboard.
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It's not impossible. Just click and hold within a few pixels of the screen edge (either side) then use another finger on the touchpad to navigate around the quick control arc.
Would be cool if the browser would swap back to normal when docked
Always used them with 3.0, loved it. Hate it in 3.1, mainly the way tabs are done. I wish it was like 3.0 quick controls
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Always used them with 3.0, loved it. Hate it in 3.1, mainly the way tabs are done. I wish it was like 3.0 quick controls
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Agreed. 3.0 implementation was much better. Tab management stinks in 3.1 because it's an extra step to switch to a tab and then close it. It also isn't easy to differentiate between tabs as you move your finger up and down the little windows.
I think it would be bada** if someone implemented the browser circle control (the one where you drag your thumb or finger in from the edge) into a rom, for use throughout the whole system. Granted, it might only be useful for the back, menu, and home buttons, but am i the only one that thinks this would be awesome? instead of having to reach over and hit back every time, you could just slide your thumb in..I know that sounds incredibly lazy, but oh well..i still think it would be cool....i would use that rom just for this feature...Is it possible?
It can be done by loading a module, but someone need to code it.
Sent from my Transformer TF101
Wave launcher?
no wave launcher allows you to put certain apps in it like the palm pre. i'm looking to have that circle of controls in the browser be universal...for instance, when i am on the xda app, i keep sliding my thumb in to go back, but its not there...
I bought my transformer today after seeing this 'circle' functionality in a review, but can'tfind it?
You have to enable it in the browser settings.
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Since I had no idea what it was I went looking and I just found it.
In the browser go to settings then to labs then turn on quick controls.
I am assuming this is it. I turned it back off instantly but maybe you will like it better than me.
So, after having my TF for about 4-5 months, I decided to get the keyboard. Why not sooner? Well, I had a laptop and I wanted just a tablet - which I happen to love. However, I'm deploying (again) this week and I don't want to take a laptop and tablet.
I've researched some of this, but here's some of my questions....
1. Is there any way to swipe scroll with the pad? I use Google Currents and I noticed that left/right keys don't cycle through the stories. Instead of clicking and dragging I just swipe the screen. Any way to do that with the keyboard?
2. If I read the manual I can probaly figure this out, but what are the circles on some of the keys for? (1 and 6, up and down)
3. Not a question, but a statement, my palm always hits the track pad. Hit it twice since typing this.
4. Are there any cool tips and tricks with the keyboard? (aside from dropping a 750gb HDD in it)
1. two fingers on the trackpad left and right should change the page
2. they are just references to highlight reference keys
3. F4 (the 3 squares with the line through it toggles the track pad on and off
4. some guy made his chrome instead of brown
That's what I'm talking about. Thanks for the tips.
Anyone have anything else?
This thing is awesome, where have I been?! lol
One of my favorites is the back button is a right click. That and I was able to change the cursor from the circle to the pointer.
all thats mod-able too if your rooted
you can change functions with tasker and you can change the cursor to something less blue.
last tip is that when you are using the arrow rather than the circle multitouch gestures on the pad don't work although if you want i can throw together a package to make it look like the pointer and act like the circle
Hate to hijack it but I would be very interested in a file that gives you the arrow pointer but the multi touch of the circles
DESIRE HD using ER3BUS ASUS TRANSFORMER on KRAKD
Thanks for all the great advice!
To do the pointer mod, do I need to root?
I don't mind rooting, but I've everything set up exactly like I like it and you know what a pain it is to reinstall the apps, getting everything straight and logged in, etc.
You know what would be a cool mod... Automatically disable the touch pad after 10 keys (or something) are entered consecutively. Or the user can change the amount. Right now I turn off the pad manually before posting on here, but if it would recognize I'm typing something lengthy that'd be awesome. Is it possible?
haven't tested it yet but this should work just replaces the pointer_spot files with pointer_arrow files
View attachment MultiArrow.zip
and if it doesn't work flash this to get it back to normal
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Thanks for all the great advice!
To do the pointer mod, do I need to root?
I don't mind rooting, but I've everything set up exactly like I like it and you know what a pain it is to reinstall the apps, getting everything straight and logged in, etc.
You know what would be a cool mod... Automatically disable the touch pad after 10 keys (or something) are entered consecutively. Or the user can change the amount. Right now I turn off the pad manually before posting on here, but if it would recognize I'm typing something lengthy that'd be awesome. Is it possible?
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you do need root to do the pointer mod and having clockwork mod would be helpful just use nacho root it is not destructive to data so you dont have to resign in
1. push the silver slider and detach screen from dock.
2. notice jaws drop around you.
3. ????
4. profit
mbreezy said:
So, after having my TF for about 4-5 months, I decided to get the keyboard. Why not sooner? Well, I had a laptop and I wanted just a tablet - which I happen to love. However, I'm deploying (again) this week and I don't want to take a laptop and tablet.
I've researched some of this, but here's some of my questions....
1. Is there any way to swipe scroll with the pad? I use Google Currents and I noticed that left/right keys don't cycle through the stories. Instead of clicking and dragging I just swipe the screen. Any way to do that with the keyboard?
2. If I read the manual I can probaly figure this out, but what are the circles on some of the keys for? (1 and 6, up and down)
3. Not a question, but a statement, my palm always hits the track pad. Hit it twice since typing this.
4. Are there any cool tips and tricks with the keyboard? (aside from dropping a 750gb HDD in it)
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Im able to use the tablet for everything but highend gaming for portability and versatility it is fantastic.
Goodintentions has done a few hard mods to his docks, check it out for some ideas, I personally will be installing and additional set of batteries and a ssd, but am waiting because i will most likely be upgradingto the prime soon.
My only concern with having the tab without a pc is if it gets bricked, will you have access to a pc or mac where you are going...just in case.
Be safe on your deployment bro
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General keyboard tip: search Google for Asus Transformer shortcuts! There are some pretty helpful keyboard shortcuts for many operations in different applications.
mbreezy said:
So, after having my TF for about 4-5 months, I decided to get the keyboard. Why not sooner? Well, I had a laptop and I wanted just a tablet - which I happen to love. However, I'm deploying (again) this week and I don't want to take a laptop and tablet.
I've researched some of this, but here's some of my questions....
1. Is there any way to swipe scroll with the pad? I use Google Currents and I noticed that left/right keys don't cycle through the stories. Instead of clicking and dragging I just swipe the screen. Any way to do that with the keyboard?
2. If I read the manual I can probaly figure this out, but what are the circles on some of the keys for? (1 and 6, up and down)
3. Not a question, but a statement, my palm always hits the track pad. Hit it twice since typing this.
4. Are there any cool tips and tricks with the keyboard? (aside from dropping a 750gb HDD in it)
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Good luck to you deploying, man. Half the guys I've installed the hard drive for are military guys who want to bring without hassle their movie collections with them.
After using the Fire TV for a while I figured I would share my most inportant app. Its an app that I never really cared about using on other devices, but could not live without it on the Fire TV. Dock4Droid is awesome on the fire TV. Not only does it make multitasking funtional, but it gives you the ability to uninstall apps from anywhere. If you have an app open, just click the gear and the app info will popup and let you uninstall it. So you can uninstall several apps withing seconds without having to go all the to the actuall setting menu. If you have the app store apk that shows all your apps on the home screen you can simply open the app, hit the gear, delete the app, delete cache/data, and move on to another app. You can keep apps and shortcuts permanantly on the dock, so if you wanna do a fast reboot from anywhere, you can. It makes using multiple apps super fast. I have mine set to open apps with two finger so all I have to do is just put the cursor near the app and let go of the mouse button and it opens. I do not use the dock background, cause it looks horrible, but the color mist background looks great, and can be set to any color. The only problem is that it causes an artifact along the top and left side when the cusor passes over, but I have found that all apps that can be opened from an activation area do the same on the fire TV. Sidebar, Fancy Switcher etc all cause the same square artifact. Anyway, just thought I would share incase someone was looking for something to make their Fire TV a little easier to navigate through. Feel free to share other apps that are important to use on the Fire TV. No games or entertainment apps, just apps that make using the Fire TV easier or better.
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After using the Fire TV for a while I figured I would share my most inportant app. Its an app that I never really cared about using on other devices, but could not live without it on the Fire TV. Dock4Droid is awesome on the fire TV. Not only does it make multitasking funtional, but it gives you the ability to uninstall apps from anywhere. If you have an app open, just click the gear and the app info will popup and let you uninstall it. So you can uninstall several apps withing seconds without having to go all the to the actuall setting menu. If you have the app store apk that shows all your apps on the home screen you can simply open the app, hit the gear, delete the app, delete cache/data, and move on to another app. You can keep apps and shortcuts permanantly on the dock, so if you wanna do a fast reboot from anywhere, you can. It makes using multiple apps super fast. I have mine set to open apps with two finger so all I have to do is just put the cursor near the app and let go of the mouse button and it opens. I do not use the dock background, cause it looks horrible, but the color mist background looks great, and can be set to any color. The only problem is that it causes an artifact along the top and left side when the cusor passes over, but I have found that all apps that can be opened from an activation area do the same on the fire TV. Sidebar, Fancy Switcher etc all cause the same square artifact. Anyway, just thought I would share incase someone was looking for something to make their Fire TV a little easier to navigate through. Feel free to share other apps that are important to use on the Fire TV. No games or entertainment apps, just apps that make using the Fire TV easier or better.
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Nice find, porkenhimer. What are you using for a mouse? I own Dock4Droid, used it on my Samsung tablet for quite a while.
Would it work on the Fire stick?
Thanks.
I am actually using an offbrand keyboard with touchpad that I got new on ebay for around $5. To be honest this cheap ugly keyboard/touchpad has worked better than anything else I have used on the fire TV. This $5 keyboard has more features and runs better than my $50 dollar keyboard. Not bad for a cheap chinese made keyboard. I use it exclusively for the Fire TV now and it combined with Dock4Droid make my Fire TV amazing. I rarely use the remote unless I am using Kodi. With Dock4Droid I can just go from app to app without ever needing to go to the homescreen too ofton. Plus I can force close apps from anywhere with Dock4Droid, so if an app is acting up there is no need to go all the way to the manage apps screen I can just close it instantly with Dock4Droid. I can be watching something in Kodi and need to look something up on google, I just popup Dock4Droid and open the browser while Kodi still plays in the baackgroud for me to listen, which is nice., cause I do not have to use the home button. I am pretty sure it will work on the stick too.
porkenhimer said:
I am actually using an offbrand keyboard with touchpad that I got new on ebay for around $5. To be honest this cheap ugly keyboard/touchpad has worked better than anything else I have used on the fire TV. This $5 keyboard has more features and runs better than my $50 dollar keyboard. Not bad for a cheap chinese made keyboard. I use it exclusively for the Fire TV now and it combined with Dock4Droid make my Fire TV amazing. I rarely use the remote unless I am using Kodi. With Dock4Droid I can just go from app to app without ever needing to go to the homescreen too ofton. Plus I can force close apps from anywhere with Dock4Droid, so if an app is acting up there is no need to go all the way to the manage apps screen I can just close it instantly with Dock4Droid. I can be watching something in Kodi and need to look something up on google, I just popup Dock4Droid and open the browser while Kodi still plays in the baackgroud for me to listen, which is nice., cause I do not have to use the home button. I am pretty sure it will work on the stick too.
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Thanks for the reply, porkenhimer, I really appreciate it.
I can't figure out how to get to the configuration options. I'm only able to get to the screen to turn it on and off.
Just go to manage all apps and open Dock4Droid.
I can open it but there is only around 4 options. I can't find any of the configuration options as shown in the YouTube video. There's a part at the bottom that shows Launchers, but it's empty.
Jedis said:
I can open it but there is only around 4 options. I can't find any of the configuration options as shown in the YouTube video. There's a part at the bottom that shows Launchers, but it's empty.
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Check your inbox on here, cause I sent instructions to you.
I gave it a try. I guess if you are using a keyboard with mouse mode all the time it is handy. It would be more useful if the app bar would stay active after being clicked. I can only figure out how to select an item from the bar by keeping the mouse button pushed and scrolling around to highlight the app icon and letting go.
Unless I missed a setting somewhere ... I dont see how to be able to use the app without using both hands and multi-touch.
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I gave it a try. I guess if you are using a keyboard with mouse mode all the time it is handy. It would be more useful if the app bar would stay active after being clicked. I can only figure out how to select an item from the bar by keeping the mouse button pushed and scrolling around to highlight the app icon and letting go.
Unless I missed a setting somewhere ... I dont see how to be able to use the app without using both hands and multi-touch.
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If you have it set to open apps with a finger up swipe then all you have to do is put the cursor anywhere in the area of an app that shows the label and let go of the mouse button. You do not really need to do a finger up swipe to open apps, just put the cursor in any apps area and let go of the button. The app that shows a label will be the app that opens. Also to get the dock to stay on screen all you have to do is set it to open apps with one click or two clicks and when you activate Dock4Droid it willl stay up til you click once or twice on the app. Some other settings I have set is making the icons 12pix, cause the icons become sharper the smaller they are. I also have my activation area set to the bottom at 100% with the smallest width and invisible, cause that way it does not interfere with anything else on the screen. All I have to do is put my cursor in the bottom right corner and press the mouse and it activates.
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If you have it set to open apps with a finger up swipe then all you have to do is put the cursor anywhere in the area of an app that shows the label and let go of the mouse button. You do not really need to do a finger up swipe to open apps, just put the cursor in any apps area and let go of the button. The app that shows a label will be the app that opens. Also to get the dock to stay on screen all you have to do is set it to open apps with one click or two clicks and when you activate Dock4Droid it willl stay up til you click once or twice on the app. Some other settings I have set is making the icons 12pix, cause the icons become sharper the smaller they are. I also have my activation area set to the bottom at 100% with the smallest width and invisible, cause that way it does not interfere with anything else on the screen. All I have to do is put my cursor in the bottom right corner and press the mouse and it activates.
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Hmm Are you running this on a stick? I finally got it to basicallly work.. I was never able to get the bar to show without clicking the mouse and moving the cursor at the same time. My issues had to do with which keyboard I was using .. There were a bunch of settings I could not get to. I could scroll down a poage.. but no further... doing alt->down would bounce me to the bottom page, but I was never able to get to the pages inbetween. My ipazzport has a <<<<>>>>> bar on the touchpad that would let me get to the settings between the top page and the bottom page.. I was able to get some things set and then go back to my other keyboard. My normal keyboard mini BT keyboard has mouse buttons on the left and right side.. which makes the multi touch thing fairly easy. I will play with it and see how I like it over time.. On the surface, I think maybe the firedtv app might be a better fit for me.. as I dont always use the keyboard.
Jacksmyname said:
Nice find, porkenhimer. What are you using for a mouse? I own Dock4Droid, used it on my Samsung tablet for quite a while.
Would it work on the Fire stick?
Thanks.
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check out the FAVI Wireless Keyboard/Touchpad! This thing is great. I think someone posted a thread on it. Great reviews.
http://www.amazon.com/FAVI-FE02RF-BL-Wireless-Keyboard-SmartStick/dp/B0090BTY8Y
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Hmm Are you running this on a stick? I finally got it to basicallly work.. I was never able to get the bar to show without clicking the mouse and moving the cursor at the same time. My issues had to do with which keyboard I was using .. There were a bunch of settings I could not get to. I could scroll down a poage.. but no further... doing alt->down would bounce me to the bottom page, but I was never able to get to the pages inbetween. My ipazzport has a <<<<>>>>> bar on the touchpad that would let me get to the settings between the top page and the bottom page.. I was able to get some things set and then go back to my other keyboard. My normal keyboard mini BT keyboard has mouse buttons on the left and right side.. which makes the multi touch thing fairly easy. I will play with it and see how I like it over time.. On the surface, I think maybe the firedtv app might be a better fit for me.. as I dont always use the keyboard.
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All you have to do is hold the mouse button down while moving your finger up or down on the touchpad to move from the bottom or top of the screen. Also, there is a setting to make apps open with one or two clicks, if you set them to open with one or two clicks then you only have to click the activation area and the dock will popup and stay up til you click an app once or twice.
Hi!
I'd like to know if anybody actually uses Samsung's features in order to help using the phone with one hand?
I myself make only use of the (not convincingly thought through) gesture which allows me to shrink the screen.
The assistant menu:
quite customisable, but much too big and slow for my taste.
Side key panel:
the other way round, quite comfortable to use, but nearly no customisation at all.
All in all I'd say lots of options, but not really thought through. What do you think?
Like you, I find the side key panel quite useful- eliminates the thumb stretching for the "back" button.
One handed input is also turned on & is mildly helpful for the dialer. Seemed to help a bit with continuous input on the keyboard as well, but ended up switching back to the stock Google keyboard I've grown so accustomed to.
Long pressing the recents key to bring up menus is also nice, though not specific to the Note 4.
Sometimes I use the shrink screen function that's when I'm to lazy to move my other hand haha
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It's not just laziness. Sometimes you really need to do other things with your other hand (old school multi-tasking).
Holmegaard said:
Like you, I find the side key panel quite useful- eliminates the thumb stretching for the "back" button.
One handed input is also turned on & is mildly helpful for the dialer. Seemed to help a bit with continuous input on the keyboard as well, but ended up switching back to the stock Google keyboard I've grown so accustomed to.
Long pressing the recents key to bring up menus is also nice, though not specific to the Note 4.
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I agree with everything you said. Still: I'm not too convinced from what the side key panel offers. If you could customise the side key panel the same way as the assistant menu, I'd totally go for it.
macmobile said:
I agree with everything you said. Still: I'm not too convinced from what the side key panel offers. If you could customise the side key panel the same way as the assistant menu, I'd totally go for it.
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I seem to remember that there should be an app that mimics the one you can find in Ios. Anyway, there are several very good apps I use for 'one handed mode':
- button savior non root (you can find in in the google play store) which gives you back, home, recent, screen lock and lets you start both the dialer and the camera;
- lmt launcher (see at xda) which works very well if you are rooted and lacks some little features if you are not. You just have to remove tue superuser permission from the manifest file (which you can do with apk permission remover) and turn on accessibility and it'll work almost as a charm. I mean, it does not only allow you to mimic the hardware keys, it can start any app and any activity which does not require root. If you are rooted, it can do virtually anything;
- as a good replacement of lmt launcher, you can test pie control by Coolace (always in the google play store).
I mostly keep the note 4 in my left hand (though I am right handed) just because my 2 years experience with the note 2 has got me accustomed to writing with my right hand, while keeping the smartphone with the left one... so that I currently feel uncomfortable while holding the note with my dominant hand So, I feel the need to have virtual keys on the right side, since reaching the back button on the right side is not so easy (though my hands are normally sized) and the above mentioned apps are the most useful I have found.
Funny, you actually named some very important apps I already use on my phone except for the lmt launcher. Could be that I thought there isn't anything to gain from if you're not rooted. Going to give it a try though. Thank you! Still I don't get it, why Samsung's Touchwiz doesn't offer better solutions? They could do it so easily.
No doubt macmobile, some customization options would be nice. The big phone trend isn't going away, so I'm hoping that more options for easing one-handed use are in the pipeline. Samsung would do well to lead the way, given their investment in the "phablet" space.
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Funny, you actually named some very important apps I already use on my phone except for the lmt launcher. Could be that I thought there isn't anything to gain from if you're not rooted. Going to give it a try though. Thank you! Still I don't get it, why Samsung's Touchwiz doesn't offer better solutions? They could do it so easily.
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I rooted every single phone or tablet before buying a Note 4 and now, though I miss the fun of flashing rom and mods, I think this phone has too many sensors which wouldn't be supported by an AOSP rom, while custom touchwiz roms aren't worth for me to give up to knox. Not much for the warranty loss, but more for the loss of the knox enviroment itself. So, since I don't want to root, I have got to look for work-arounds and I think there are many good apps.
Back on topic, imho Samsung has so far designed the best implementation for one hand usage, though it could be better. If you look at the nexus 6, it's just a big phone and the Iphone itself is just a (good) 5.5" phone which doesn't pay particular attention to single hand usage.
I agree with you both that phablets are very likely here to stay and that the current UI for single hand usage is at very early stage.
I just received the Note 4 with lollipop pre installed.
The one-handed operation (that I was using woth my note 3) has disappeared from settings!!!!!
WHY????
how to get it back?
Settings/Display and Wallpaper/One-handed operation
Samsung screwed one thing about One handed operation: there is no separate setting for dialing keyboard and QWERTY keyboard, just like it was on my previous Note II.
I wish I could set smaller dialpad, but retain full QWERTY, which is not the option any more.
When set one handed operation ON, samsung keyboard is just too small to me.