[INFO] Tested video call from Acer A500 today... - Eee Pad Transformer General

So I went by Best Buy today to check out the Acer and Xoom side by side, since the Asus wasnt out yet (tomorrow for that).
Anyway, i turned my trusty Samsung Vibrant mobile hotspot on, piped in some Google account information, and opened up Talk, and called a friend (who was on a desktop)... Video was ok, so the chain of communication looked like this....
me->Acer500->local wifi->Tmo 3G network->Internet-> His Work Place->IPSec tunnel->Internet->His Home DSL->Laptop->My buddy
Video quality wasnt bad...but the Acer kept moving my picture inside the little square, like auto rotating it, etc. It was kinda of hard to do the video call landscape wise since the front cam is on the left of the unit, but you could turn the tablet vertical and have a more uniform video call.
Speed of the call and the audio was just fine.
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Where's the mic?

Uhm, yeah, can't find it...
2 microphones actually. The user guide on Acer.com says "Dual microphone with noise and echo cancellation" and they are located next to each other along the top of the LCD. If you look closely at the top of the LCD while it is in landscape mode (with the docking port pointing down), you'll see the opening for the microphones. =)
man i looked for ages for these mics i still cant see squat. know they are there though as ive used em for recording, and for video calls
Do you have good mic performance in gtalk when on video call?
Mine was acting a bit weird.
They could hear me for a minute or so after starting the conference, but then my voice would fade away and they would only hear some backround noise.. sometimes they could hear me if would only talk directly into the usb host port lol!
When recording mic works fine. Havent tried skype yet.
Is this the case for any of you???
i had issues with the mic with the first a500 i got, the person on the other end would would hear a lot of static. But i've got the tab replaced and its been working fine now!
My mic performance is terrible. My wife has an I-pod 4, and her mic works great (using Hey Tell) sitting in same room, her voice on the Tab is great...mine on the I-pod is terrible. Hardware possibly? Any updates? Skype is terrible also...
Remidies?
Mic is pretty horrible. Often does not pick up voice to text and recorded voice is terrible. First mic is literally between the bezel and the glass in the middle top of the screen. Second mic is in sd card slot which makes no sense. Other than the size and weight it is my only real complaint so far.
my first a500 mic was horrible, it started off fine but after a little while it crapped out and the other side could not hear me, oddly enough whne just doing a voice recording rather than gtalk/skype call it was fine. anyways exchanged it for a new one this one works very well.
!!!???Nooooo
!!!Please keep your Ipod talk out of the android forum. Thank you very much ;(
JimFPU said:
My mic performance is terrible. My wife has an I-pod 4, and her mic works great (using Hey Tell) sitting in same room, her voice on the Tab is great...mine on the I-pod is terrible. Hardware possibly? Any updates? Skype is terrible also...
Remidies?
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Rishikesh said:
i had issues with the mic with the first a500 i got, the person on the other end would would hear a lot of static. But i've got the tab replaced and its been working fine now!
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So you can video chat just fine? You don't have the problems stated in my thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1096042
?
Here is a good teardown I found on techrepublic that shows the two microphones in the A500.
(sorry, low post count, I can't post external links yet)
www_techrepublic_com/blog/itdojo/acer-iconia-tab-teardown-easy-to-service-3g-ready/2861?tag=content;siu-container

Video calling, sound trouble

So I recently got one of these tablets for my parents. It seems great overall.
Tried the video calling with the GTalk app.
First test call between the Tab and my Galaxy S (Custom ROM with latest GTalk so the phone does video calls, although it uses the wrong camera)
The sound my phone receives from the Tab is pretty bad, like this weird stuttering sound. I can still hear voice though. The Tab seems to play back sound it receives fine though, but maybe too quiet.
Second test, between Tab and PC. Annoying stuttering sound is gone. But now my voice comes back to me, and it's much louder than the voice of the person calling me from the Tab. It's like the Tab is picking up sound from its own speakers and sending it back to me.
I tested the mic with the recording app, on both my phone and tab. There it worked fine on both.
What's going on here? Software problem or what?
And why is that weird stuttering noise played back on my phone but not the PC?
Nobody? Am I alone then, is my Tab faulty?
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Nobody? Am I alone then, is my Tab faulty?
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You are not alone as far as the pc side goes. I get the same results. I will start looking for a noise/echo cancellation fix for the tab. If I find anything I will report back.

I cant believe the mic on the transformer

Could some of you guys post a recording of your mic from the transformer. Like music or something. I just can't believe the horible mic quality
That's because it's not made for Drake to use in the studio. You can't really expect anything decent for a tablet at $400.00. You're looking at the wrong market, it's made for voice recognition and it works superb in combination with Google's Voice-related API's. Have you tried Voice Actions with this thing? It works near perfectly even with a ****ty voice.
It could use a boost though, the girlfriend has trouble hearing me when chatting. Ive thought about a plug in directional mic for that.
Just bought a $2 plug in mic for iphone that people said improved its capture of voice from a conference room. Hopefully it works because its about the size of a piece of candy, would be easy to carry for chatting.
The mic is, hardware-wise, the sole lemon for me on the Transformer. It's close to useless, because it is so insensitive.
Using Skype on the Transformer, I literally have to have the tablet within about a foot of me, and turned sideways so the mic points directly at me (and I can't see the screen). And it's not the specific tab -- I've got both 16GB and 32GB units, and the mic performance is equally terrible on both.
I'm hoping it turns out to be a firmware issue and the gain can be adjusted, either by Asus or a third party, because as-is it's simply not useful, and I can't really take advantage of basic OS features like voice search because of that. (And yes, Tubular, I've tried it. With my clearest possible voice, I have so far only been able to manage one successful search in total. 99% of the time it searches for completely the wrong thing, or nothing at all.)
knoxploration said:
The mic is, hardware-wise, the sole lemon for me on the Transformer. It's close to useless, because it is so insensitive.
Using Skype on the Transformer, I literally have to have the tablet within about a foot of me, and turned sideways so the mic points directly at me (and I can't see the screen). And it's not the specific tab -- I've got both 16GB and 32GB units, and the mic performance is equally terrible on both.
I'm hoping it turns out to be a firmware issue and the gain can be adjusted, either by Asus or a third party, because as-is it's simply not useful, and I can't really take advantage of basic OS features like voice search because of that. (And yes, Tubular, I've tried it. With my clearest possible voice, I have so far only been able to manage one successful search in total. 99% of the time it searches for completely the wrong thing, or nothing at all.)
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Sounds like a defect: the mic is bad, but not that bad. Can you RMA it?
Or just up the gain in Skype. Anyhow, people have been telling me I sound like I'm in a vaccum when I talk on Ventrilo, but it is to be expected of a mic on a tablet.
knoxploration said:
The mic is, hardware-wise, the sole lemon for me on the Transformer. It's close to useless, because it is so insensitive.
Using Skype on the Transformer, I literally have to have the tablet within about a foot of me, and turned sideways so the mic points directly at me (and I can't see the screen). And it's not the specific tab -- I've got both 16GB and 32GB units, and the mic performance is equally terrible on both.
I'm hoping it turns out to be a firmware issue and the gain can be adjusted, either by Asus or a third party, because as-is it's simply not useful, and I can't really take advantage of basic OS features like voice search because of that. (And yes, Tubular, I've tried it. With my clearest possible voice, I have so far only been able to manage one successful search in total. 99% of the time it searches for completely the wrong thing, or nothing at all.)
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You have a defective unit. The microphone in the Transformer is similar to that on low-end netbooks, etc. It's made to work for voice chatting and for voice search. It will not record high end audio... However, plug in mics work, iirc.
I'm getting my Asus Transformer today. Given some of the manufacturing defect concerns, I've been starting a list of things to checkout when I get mine. I guess it's worth while to check to see that the mic works, at least OK enough for voice commands.
Tubular said:
That's because it's not made for Drake to use in the studio. You can't really expect anything decent for a tablet at $400.00. You're looking at the wrong market, it's made for voice recognition and it works superb in combination with Google's Voice-related API's. Have you tried Voice Actions with this thing? It works near perfectly even with a ****ty voice.
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Yep, it shines where my cappy fails! Nice voice recognition.
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quarky42 said:
Sounds like a defect: the mic is bad, but not that bad. Can you RMA it?
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dorino1 said:
You have a defective unit. The microphone in the Transformer is similar to that on low-end netbooks, etc. It's made to work for voice chatting and for voice search. It will not record high end audio... However, plug in mics work, iirc.
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Thanks for the replies, but note that I have *two* Transformers (one early-production 16GB, one almost brand new 32GB) and both are identical in terms of recording levels.
With no case or anything to block the mic, Skype is usable so long as the microphone faces towards me and is within 1-2 feet, but if I turn the tablet so the screen faces towards me, the person I'm Skyping can no longer hear me properly.
Voice search is probably further complicated by my accent (somewhere between British, American, and Australian, and I use pronunciations from all three accents near-interchangeably). It is, in a word, useless. Well, perhaps worse than useless. But that's likely half down to the weak mic, and half down to my accent.
But I really don't think the mic in both of my units is faulty, tbh -- the audio is too similar in both, and they're not from the same production run.
Alright. I'm confused, though. Is it harder to hear in portrait (long end on top/bottom) or landscape? (short end on top/bottom)
Anyway, if you want better quality, attach a headset.
agree..the mic on the TF is ****...til I root, install chems kernel mod, install voodoo control, and volumn plus...now it just ok.. not good.
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dorino1 said:
Alright. I'm confused, though. Is it harder to hear in portrait (long end on top/bottom) or landscape? (short end on top/bottom)
Anyway, if you want better quality, attach a headset.
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It's not portrait versus landscape, but rather, screen facing me, or screen facing to my left.
Imagine the TF sitting in front of you on a small table with dock attached, in netbook mode. Now imagine you've turned the whole thing 90 degrees so that the person sitting on the side of the table to your left can use it. That's the position I have to place the netbook in so that the mic can pick me up reasonably...
If I sit in front of the screen, the person I'm calling can barely hear me just two feet from my tablet (and as my long-suffering wife will tell you, I'm not a quiet speaker!) ;-) It's not specific to the person I'm calling -- I've tried doing a loopback test in Skype and even with the volume turned up all the way, I can hardly hear myself when sitting in front of the tab's screen.
Unfortunately I don't have the correct type of headset to test the mic jack. All my headsets either have separate mic / headphone cables, or a smaller size of jack.
Okay, I'm really pretty positive you have a bad unit, then. My mic at least works with the screen facing me!
Anyway, a coupler for dual 3.5mm headsets costs like 2 dollars
Thanks, guess I'll add it to my list of things to do -- call Asus and see if I need to get both tabs serviced...
That's immediately after I get my Creative speakers serviced. (Crackle on left channel.) And my Logitech mouse. (Left button double-clicks with a single click). And my Corsair power supply (started making a continuous ticking noise like a bearing's going).
*sigh* ;-)
has anyone tried using a bluetooth headset ? ive got a Nokia BH-109 paired with my TF, but no ones on skype for me to test it
dorino1 said:
You have a defective unit. The microphone in the Transformer is similar to that on low-end netbooks, etc. It's made to work for voice chatting and for voice search. It will not record high end audio... However, plug in mics work, iirc.
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Why then would you include the ability to record hi-def video,with absolutely horrendously bad audio recording...I can't believe this Mic is not defective...RMAing back to Amazon for a new unit.
Chas
knoxploration is right. my tf mic is terrible. there's nothing wrong with it...just really hard to hear for people on the other end. I do the same thing and turn the tab to the side so i'm facing the mic. person on the other end hears me better but then they can't see me. i guess it's time to use one of those usb ports for a 3rd party mic. anyone tested any?

HKTW 2.3.4 build front-facing cam WORKS on receiving end

just an FYI to everyone who's running the HKTW build and was disappointed that the FFC was sideways and stretched now, it appears in fact that on the receiving end of video calls, the picture is (somewhat) fine. although it shows as distorted on the atrix-side of the app, it appears upright and normal on the receiving device both Qik and Fring, and upside down in Tango. All 3 tested with a Galaxy Tab.
(Tango video doesn't reciprocate on GTab for some reason to my Atrix, which is the GTab's fault)
EDIT: no google talk video doesn't work for me, so i didn't include it in this test. AFAIK it doesn't work on the atrix yet.

Video recording without audio, why?

Something very strange happened today.
I was home, waiting to go to a show. Video recorder was setup at 640 x 480 to save memory space, I tested recording and everything was OK, recording both video and audio as expected.
Went to the show, did a number of recordings, ranging from 12 to 300+ megabytes.
Came back home, no recording had audio! Plain video, no sound.
Tried again home to record a new video, and again everything was regular, with proper sound.
So, I've lost some amazing music, and can't understand why.
Do you have any hint? What happened to my note 4?
Okay, putting on the Sherlock Homes hat now...
You have a Note 4 on Verizon. Last thing you did before leaving was put on the fancy new case you just bought. Unfortunately the case wasn't designed to accommodate the relocated mic hole for Verizon, and blocked your audio. Elementary, my dear Watson.
Whatever happened, sorry you missed out on the recording.
Nope, my note 4 is naked, no cover, no case, not subsidized
There must be another explanation
Did you connect headphones or a bluetooth device?
I have to get this Sherlock hat serviced, it seems to be defective.
Neither. Only thing unusual, it was in a place without gsm and wifi field. I should try again in same place.
And, concerning your Sherlock hat, it might have issues without a proper pipe and magnifying glass.
Note 4 no audio in recorded video
I had experienced this problem too. I recorded some videos in a show for my son's performance and none of video had sound. I did test recording at home before and after the show and it is recording perfectly okay with sound.
I still don't know what happened.
i found this solution on another post and it worked for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-verizon/help/sound-recordings-audio-video-t3079593
it worked for me regardless of a difference in carrier
Thanks. It never happened again afterwards.
It is happening to me now... on stock. I have turned off and on BT and started recording... weird...

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