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Nexus One vs Mytouch HD

So I am tempted to get the mytouch HD, and just wanted to get some pros and cons from you guys.
Pros:
-Faster Internet (HSPA+)
-Better Processor
-Front facing camera
-A little bit larger screen 3.8, No amoled though I guess
Cons:
-Slower to get updates
-no color trackball notifications
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Con: design and material looks pretty toyish
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No tempation at all; if you go to the store and play with a mytouch slide you'll see. The mytouch series of phones are a joke. The genius button is such a waste of space.

pro: 768MB of RAM

I agree the finish of the myTouch Slide leaves much to be desired, but to me it is still not as bad as the Vibrant. Also, the Engadget mobile podcast mentioned the finish on the new myTouch is much nicer (aluminum battery cover/etc) than previous generations.
We still don't know for sure which CPU/GPU combo is inside, but I feel like it is still a decent upgrade from the Nexus (before new phones next year). Also, the touch panel on the Nexus is driving me insane - I hope they used a nicer one on the myTouch.

At this point in time anything that is coming out to the market is going to better than the nexus one because its been awhile and the n1 is showing its age.
However the nexus one is still a very capable phone and should be a good performer until the dualies come out.
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I have to agree with niftydl. This phone will be much nicer than prior MyTouch phones. That being said, I'm sure it'll still have nasty Espresso... that and the stupid Genius button taint the device for me.

Actually holding the phone at a store, I was pretty impressed with the device. Sure it has a Genius button instead of a standard search button on the Nexus, but I RARELY use the actual search button vs the google search bar widget.
The Design is hit or miss. While I like the materials, being a rubberized border around the sides and a metal battery cover, the buttons are ugly. But physical buttons might not be a bad idea. I know sometimes it takes a few hits to actually get the touch controls on the nexus. It also has a dedicated camera button which is a plus.
Nasty Launcher (which is pretty fugly) should be easily replaceable with Launcher Pro which is what I use on my Nexus.
But the phone feels very stout. Very durable. After seeing FaceTime on my friends iPhones I realized while its nice, I'd never use it now but it's still pretty cool. I feel more and more phones are going to start introducing front facing cams now so its a welcome feature.
The screen is nice but not AMOLED (SLCD). Still looks good.
The larger screen, bigger processor, bigger screen. Seems like a winner.
I'd miss the trackball LED's on my Nexus and the AMOLED deep contrast colors. Gingerbread more then likely hitting the Nexus One first.
I don't know much of the MyTouch brand. Some of them come with a "Sense" feel so are they created by HTC? If so are they prone to unlocking, Rooting, and rom swapping?
Also I'm not thinking in terms of a Nexus One replacement... but lets say your Nexus died and you needed a phone. Would you choose this?

At $70 on contract only a week after release, for anyone looking to jump into Android, this phone is an absolute STEAL.
http://www.wirefly.com/search/all/mytouch 4g/
I have no idea how Wirefly ($70) and Amazon ($80) can get such low prices for such a new device.
That being said, I'd only use one if there was a stock FroYo ROM for it. But since it has been perma-rooted, that will probably come quick.
However, for a Nexus to MyTouch 4G sidegrade, you'd have to be downright INSANE. The benefits are so tiny, and add the fact that the Nexus S is on the nearby horizon, and you'd be crazy to switch from the N1 to the MT4G.

Con: Espresso

I when to buy the MyTouch at T-mobile store but I started playing with it and it changed my mind.
I really don't see myself going to a phone without soft keys like the nexus has. I really didn't like the feeling of regular keys at all.

Am I the only one that thinks the Nexus One is the perfect size?

It seems everyone here, looking forward to their next android device, want something 4" or above.
I would've expected that 4" or above would be for a small percentage, like a niche, and most people would want another 3.7 inch screen.
If there ever is a Nexus 2, or whatever the next Google dev phone, I would prefer it to be the same size as the Nexus One, I think it's the perfect size for a phone.
Anyone with me?
*tumbleweed rolls by*

Just a tad too small for me. If it had a 4" screen it would be easier to surf the web, type emails, read word documents, etc.

I like phones one size and a tablet another. The Nexus is a good size. In the world of Android devices, it's old and it's still the best. Maybe it could use a front facing camera but, who uses those anyway?
N2:
Front facing camera
More internal memory
Faster processer
Same Vanilla goodness
Minor tweaks on a GREAT phone.

I love the form factor. Four inches is too much for me.
-Sent from my Nexus One Superphone.

Ebonwumon said:
I love the form factor. Four inches is too much for me.
-Sent from my Nexus One Superphone.
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NSFW LOL
I agree, compared with the droid phone this thing is perfect width wise.....man I can see ppl googling me and finding this quote...*sigh*

Yep, i love the size of the Nexus One. Phones like the HTC EVO are just a little too big for my taste.

3.7" is too small.
4" is great and easy to pocket.
4.3" is even better from a usability standpoint, but obviously more difficult to pocket.
When I'm at the gym doing cardio, I place my N1 on the machine so I can watch videos hands-free. But some machines have the back panel just too far so that the 3.7" screen looks tiny. A tablet would be great, but I don't have the money for a phone AND a tablet, let alone the fact that there are no tablets anyway.
A 4.3" screen would be great for this.

I love the N1. Fits in my pocket well. The screen in landscape is great to type on and I'm a big guy with big hands. Typing in portrait mode is a little tight but thats why spell check and prediction are great. I've had a lot of phones and I know there are newer phones with all these great specs and whatnot, but I haven't seen one that has made me want to ditch my N1. Haven't looked back since I bought it in March.

I'm trying to think it's the perfect size, and it is as a phone and a pocketable device.
OTOH I'm thinking about a car mount and want a long gooseneck so it'll be within 2' of my face so I can see Trapster. Want this gooseneck to swivel down beside the console so I don't look like a dork on dates, but there is no such thing as a swivel with gooseneck. This makes me suspicious the screen is too small.

My N1 is the perfect width wise for my hand, pocket, car mount, and her tight azz jeans

Nexus One owner and I also think it is the perfect size. I bought the G2 thinking I was missing out on something, I found out very fast that the Nexus One is IMO the better looking, build quality is top notch and as far as the keyboard is concerned, don't really use it, I use Vlingo for just about everything on both phones. The Nexus One is a phone I just will never give up. No matter what device comes out in the future, will always keep the Nexus One.
PS. If all the app developers would allow their apps to be moved to the memory card the only down side to the Nexus would not be an issue.

glwinkler said:
I like phones one size and a tablet another. The Nexus is a good size. In the world of Android devices, it's old and it's still the best. Maybe it could use a front facing camera but, who uses those anyway?
N2:
Front facing camera
More internal memory
Faster processer
Same Vanilla goodness
Minor tweaks on a GREAT phone.
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I dont thng internal memory is solution , i am using cm6 with i can put every app to my class 10 16gb sdcard

Agree. Nexus's size is perfect for me.

The N1's size is just right for me! I love using phones in one hand, and when I tried the Galaxy S for a couple of weeks, I always had problems accessing the top of the screen with my thumb. With the N1, I can just touch the top enough to dismiss notifications.
4" screens are only nice when you wanna watch videos, but watching videos is not really what I do on my N1 anyway.

Sometimes I wish it were a bit smaller for day-to-day use, at least for my taste.

Almost prefect as is. Trim the "fat" on the bottom, and then it's perfect. I want the 3.7 screen with about 1/8 of trim around it! When I need a bigger screen, I get my tablet out..

I really like the size of the N1. I've tried the Droid, Droid X, Evo, Incredible, Vibrant, Galaxy slider, and more but nothing so far is making me want to spend the money for a new device.

I wish it were just a hair wider. I notice the slight difference between iPhone and N1 when typing in portrait mode.

You know what I wish?
I wish they start making smartphones with no space between the screen and the end of the chassis...so a 4,3" screen phone would have the size of a nexus...and it would look awesome to me...imagine to have the only screen in your hands
Erase that useless boarders!

elmerendeiro said:
You know what I wish?
I wish they start making smartphones with no space between the screen and the end of the chassis...so a 4,3" screen phone would have the size of a nexus...and it would look awesome to me...imagine to have the only screen in your hands
Erase that useless boarders!
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Only problem with that is, as I found out with the SGS, which is sort of quite close to how you described, is that when you pick it up, if say the screen is already on, the edges of your hands (i.e. the flabby bits of your palms) catch the incredibly sensitive touch screen resulting in you often running things you didnt mean to run (like the browser who's icon was in the bottom right of the screen).
The idea sounds good in theory but in reality I dont think it'd work, it would be a nightmare IMO

What would of made the g2 better for you?

I personally would of loved if htc had raised the trackpad a bit. Its useable but it feels like Its carved into the phone and doesn't always move when I touch it. Adding gorilla glass would of been great as well and haveing the phone in white(faveorite color) would of made this phone perfect for me! How about you?
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dontbes said:
I personally would of loved if htc had raised the trackpad a bit. Its useable but it feels like Its carved into the phone and doesn't always move when I touch it. Adding gorilla glass would of been great as well and haveing the phone in white(faveorite color) would of made this phone perfect for me! How about you?
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The only thing i want in the G2 is a 5 row QWERTY (like the G1).....I like dedicated number buttons

the phone could be a little bit lighter and I wish the trackpad was able to flash different colors. If that's all I can come up with then this phone really is that good.
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I second the five-row QWERTY...
A hinge that "locks" into place.
Better camera, especially in low-light situations.
Four inch screen.
Thinner is always better!
And while we're in fantasy land, I wouldn't say no to an AMOLED display either...

remove the .com button or move it. I always hit it by mistake
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Better hinge design. (Better location for charging port too)
Everything else was addressed with root so I won't bother listing it.

A multi color trackpad... and GINGERBREAD (Oh well, we should have it soon via CM7)

Tri-colour notification LED
A proper dock that rotates the screen and puts it in desk-clock mode
AMOLED screen

Definitely a dev-accessible multi-color trackpad/ball light would be a big improvement, I miss that from my Nexus One.
I really think that's all I would have changed. Maybe a dual-LED flash instead of just a single, but aside from that, I'm pretty satisfied. I'd have preferred a black color scheme, too, instead of the multi-toned grey, but whatever.

My dream DZ would be what I have now - plus....
- tighter hinge
- 4 inch super ahmoled screen
- Thinner
- relocate the micro usb port to the bottom of the device
Not to hijack the thread - but for those of you who want a larger screen - would you consider the Desire HD? Im in Canada and its not available yet - but could be in the near future.

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Not to hijack the thread - but for those of you who want a larger screen - would you consider the Desire HD? Im in Canada and its not available yet - but could be in the near future.
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I'd love a slightly bigger screen, but the keyboard outweighs the screen size for me. You gota decide what is higher on your list of priorities.
Things that would make this device future proof for me,...
Tegra2
Dual LED flash
Bigger screen
5 row KB
.................... most to least important.
I'm happy to wait for the next 'G' series from HTC. I'll never go back to touch screen only.
Edit,.... A G1/Hero style trackball instead of optical trackpad would be nice n all.

Would love to be able to configure the backlight on the keyboard. It's NEVER on when I need it to be.

On what ROM? Mine is on when open, I assume it's off when closed.....

I would have liked the G2 better if it had the same keyboard as the Touch Pro 2. That was probably the best phone I've owned as far as appearance goes (TP2). Too bad the hardware and software sucked.
And it's not that I don't like the hinge design either, slide phones always end up scratching the keyboard surface on the sides. But I loved being able to open it and then tilt, oh and the 5 row keyboard was a beauty... If only the G2 had this, it would be perfect for me. But no phone is perfect.
Oh and access to the SD card slot without having to open anything! Another beautiful thing about the TP2 which had this.
In my dreams I am thinking of a phone with a SECOND SD card slot. Why not?? One behind the battery and one on the side of the phone.
My last phone was the HD2. I do kind of miss the larger display, but something inbetween would be perfect for me. If Android ran a bit smoother though I'm sure I would have never got the G2.
That's all... Every phone has areas it can be improved in. I think the G2 has excellent hardware, though. I think this is the most important aspect now having owned 5 HTC phones. Should be holding onto this one for a while, but then again that's what I always say. >.<

4" amoled screen , 5th row for numbers , a sturdy hinge , a better camera , and maybe a front facing camera.
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For me it is all the wishes expressed by others here, plus a front facing camera and a slot for a sling if one needed it. AND are there ever going to be automatic or dual active sim card smartphones from HTC?

Sd card slot that does not require battery removal. I'm surprised people want samoled on g2 after it has been proven that samoled is highly susceptible to "burn in" and pentile matrix is just killing me.
I think I woupd keed the LCD that we currently have on G2.
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A sturdier hinge mechanism, a 1 GHz processor. That's about it for me.

Interesting, the processor is the one thing I wouldn't change.
...sent from my G2 running Cyanogen 6.1.1

omarsalmin said:
A multi color trackpad... and GINGERBREAD (Oh well, we should have it soon via CM7)
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Seconded. I'm running a "CM build" compiled by someone else in the forum from source code but I sure hope Team Douche hurries up! Heh. Not to undermine the tireless efforts of those amazing phone modders.

Huge screen size: HD2 ruined me: now I hate devices with screen smaller than 4.3"

Huge screen size: HD2 ruined me: now I hate devices with screen smaller than 4.3"
When I got my HD2 few months ago, I was uncertain if a 4.3" screen is too much, I didn't get it before because I always saw this device to be SO HUGE, but when I found it in a special offer I took it, and now I like it so much that I can't go without the 4.3" screen.
I became certain of my problem 2 days ago when i received as a gift an Ipod Touch 4gen, it is wonderful, great display (retina), smooth, easy, nice apps, everything..... but only 3.5" display!!! I still prefer my HD2 (with android) for music, podcasts, video, apps.
What can I do now !!!! will there be many devices with 4" or more? Desire HD has the same screen.
My next device should be at least 4.2", with dual core, and available in europe.

there are plenty of 4.3" screens out there for native android devices

Heh, LOL. I have the same problem. Used to think iPhone's screen were the biggest until I got a measurement tool and starts pulling it to 4.3 over the iPhone's screen....
Now I hold my old iPhone with great disdain, and sleeps with my HD2 TMOUS to bed every night :2

lol the other day i grabbed my sisters itouch 4gen and i went to type on it, my fingers felt like they covered the entire screen.. i put it down since i couldnt focus
Iphones/ipods are okay but the screen size is horrible.. high end android phone are between 4"-4.3" now a days
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Went from an HD2 to G1........ Just ordered a new HD2 lol because I cant stand anything with a screen smaller than 4''

OP I'm 100% with you.
Got on my girlfriend's Nexus One and I cannot handle that tiny screen size.

I just bought my daughter an android tablet, same glass capacitive screen as the hd2 but 7' across, it's huge! The hd2 feels small afterward but much lighter. Also I'd feel stupid holding such a big device to my ear to make phone calls!

You can check on gsmarena.com (advanced search) for all the 4"+ screen devices available today.
Regards!

boomboomer said:
I just bought my daughter an android tablet, same glass capacitive screen as the hd2 but 7' across, it's huge! The hd2 feels small afterward but much lighter. Also I'd feel stupid holding such a big device to my ear to make phone calls!
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Try using a gTab (10.1") then looking at an iPhone.
You gotta squint!

orangekid said:
Try using a gTab (10.1") then looking at an iPhone.
You gotta squint!
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+1. Now thats the truth!

mcbyte_it said:
When I got my HD2 few months ago, I was uncertain if a 4.3" screen is too much, I didn't get it before because I always saw this device to be SO HUGE, but when I found it in a special offer I took it, and now I like it so much that I can't go without the 4.3" screen.
I became certain of my problem 2 days ago when i received as a gift an Ipod Touch 4gen, it is wonderful, great display (retina), smooth, easy, nice apps, everything..... but only 3.5" display!!! I still prefer my HD2 (with android) for music, podcasts, video, apps.
What can I do now !!!! will there be many devices with 4" or more? Desire HD has the same screen.
My next device should be at least 4.2", with dual core, and available in europe.
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Just buy the HTC Sensation (AKA HTC Pyramid) or buy the Samsung Galaxy S2...

This is interesting, just last weekend we had a party and two other people had Iphones, one being a 3gs the other a 4, I am running miui nand build android which looks and feels similar to the iphone interface.
All three of us sad geeks sat comparing our devices, first thing we all agreed on was how useful the large screen on my hd2 was, the next comparison was just how clear the iphone 4 screen was especially at practically every angle you look at it, the poor 3gs looked a little low resolution compared,we were sat outside in partial shade, and all devices were clear enough to read, must admit my hd2 being the least clear, as the sun came round more my hd2 was the most difficult to read, the iphone 4 was still amazingly clear, anyway we moved back into the shade, we compared a few similar games like angry birds, words with friends and every one agreed the larger hd2 screen was brilliant to play games on.
But then things got silly when we started comparing think of an app and see if the market has it, out of 10 fairly obscure idears, the iphones had 9, alas android only found 3, but we wont go there, this is about screen comparing, basically I shall be getting a ipod touch 4, just for playing about with some of the apps and games, you can't beat the hd2, screen, led light, flash on internet, multitasking behaves wonderfully and that customisation with android, also the pull down status bar I would certainly miss.
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[Q] Coming from a Nexus S

I was unfortunate to get in the LL3 train, but I should be getting my N4 by Wednesday hopefully. I have a Nexus S right now that is rooted and am hoping to get some insite on how people are liking their N4's coming from the Nexus S. I know the N4 has almost 4 times the RAM as the Nexus S and much more CPU and GPU power, but Nexus S is running pretty well. I just want to know what are people's experiences! Can't wait to get my own N4!

InItDesigns said:
I was unfortunate to get in the LL3 train, but I should be getting my N4 by Wednesday hopefully. I have a Nexus S right now that is rooted and am hoping to get some insite on how people are liking their N4's coming from the Nexus S. I know the N4 has almost 4 times the RAM as the Nexus S and much more CPU and GPU power, but Nexus S is running pretty well. I just want to know what are people's experiences! Can't wait to get my own N4!
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I had the Nexus S a while ago but there's really no comparison between the two. I loved all the Nexus devices, but this one is just simply amazing. From the hardware design to the software it's a pleasing and flawless experience. You won't be disappointed
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You will love it! I have the nexus s for my work phone and then the N4 as my personal phone. If you like the Nexus S then i can assume you like stock android and thus the N4 is like stock android but on steriods because of how much faster and smoother it is. There will be some differences though, the N4 has the LCD screen while the Nexus had the Amoled (thinking about that i think they did do a LCD screen of the nexus but mine is Amoled anyway) so colours will look different, however you will love how sharp the screen is since its a huge bump in resolution.
The camera is a million times better than the S
On screen buttons you should be ok with, some people dont like them because it takes up screen real estate, however since you're coming from the S that screen is only 4inch so the bump to 4.4inch of userable screen should still be good. (also as a side point i came from the GS3, people who moan about they should put buttons on the bezel are idiots who know nothing, i cant tell you how many times you accidently hit buttons when holding the phone in landscape because they have no bezel on the bottom of the phone as its took up by buttons)
The only thing which is neither good or bad, its just different, will be the construction, the N4 is far far superior in construction quality, so you will either love it for that as it feels fantastic in the hand....... or you will hate it because its made out of glass and thus is prone to cracks if you drop it, where as the nexus S is more durable.
My general opinion is that that should be obvious, its glass.... it will break, if your one of these people who are super careful you will be fine, if you generally drop your phone often, get a case/bumper
bar that you should love it, since you didnt have LTE in the first place or removal storage, these are things you havent lost.
The last thing i will say is since you've come from a stock google device, it should be super super easy restroing all your items when you load into your account on your new phone

I have an SGS1 with custom ROMs, which is almost identical hardware. The difference between the two is really immense. A bigger, nicer screen with zero stutter or lag when doing almost anything. Apps are quick, everything is snappy.

Now when I look back at my Nexus S (though I came to N4 via Galaxy Nexus after the "S"), it is hard to even compare the two. I'd say you will be for a better experience pretty much on every single front. Except for size maybe - you'd definitely need some time to get used to the much wider phone. Especially if you plan on using case/bumper.

nbeebe24 said:
I had the Nexus S a while ago but there's really no comparison between the two. I loved all the Nexus devices, but this one is just simply amazing. From the hardware design to the software it's a pleasing and flawless experience. You won't be disappointed
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What's your favorite improvement over the Nexus S? And don't say all of them haha
mintvilla said:
You will love it! I have the nexus s for my work phone and then the N4 as my personal phone. If you like the Nexus S then i can assume you like stock android and thus the N4 is like stock android but on steriods because of how much faster and smoother it is. There will be some differences though, the N4 has the LCD screen while the Nexus had the Amoled (thinking about that i think they did do a LCD screen of the nexus but mine is Amoled anyway) so colours will look different, however you will love how sharp the screen is since its a huge bump in resolution.
The camera is a million times better than the S
On screen buttons you should be ok with, some people dont like them because it takes up screen real estate, however since you're coming from the S that screen is only 4inch so the bump to 4.4inch of userable screen should still be good. (also as a side point i came from the GS3, people who moan about they should put buttons on the bezel are idiots who know nothing, i cant tell you how many times you accidently hit buttons when holding the phone in landscape because they have no bezel on the bottom of the phone as its took up by buttons)
The only thing which is neither good or bad, its just different, will be the construction, the N4 is far far superior in construction quality, so you will either love it for that as it feels fantastic in the hand....... or you will hate it because its made out of glass and thus is prone to cracks if you drop it, where as the nexus S is more durable.
My general opinion is that that should be obvious, its glass.... it will break, if your one of these people who are super careful you will be fine, if you generally drop your phone often, get a case/bumper
bar that you should love it, since you didnt have LTE in the first place or removal storage, these are things you havent lost.
The last thing i will say is since you've come from a stock google device, it should be super super easy restroing all your items when you load into your account on your new phone
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I have the Nexus 7 right now and I love it! The lack of LTE doesn't really bother me because I know T-mobile HSPA+ is more then enough. The glass design makes me really happy because I feel like its the first android phone worth showing off to people! I'm just so used to the speed on my Nexus S that when I turn on the Nexus 4 I'm expecting a world's of difference. I can't wait!
Ajfink said:
I have an SGS1 with custom ROMs, which is almost identical hardware. The difference between the two is really immense. A bigger, nicer screen with zero stutter or lag when doing almost anything. Apps are quick, everything is snappy.
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I just can't wait to see the giant difference!
leobg said:
Now when I look back at my Nexus S (though I came to N4 via Galaxy Nexus after the "S"), it is hard to even compare the two. I'd say you will be for a better experience pretty much on every single front. Except for size maybe - you'd definitely need some time to get used to the much wider phone. Especially if you plan on using case/bumper.
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No bumper for me I'm very careful with my phone, I hope I keep my track record up though haha!

InItDesigns said:
What's your favorite improvement over the Nexus S? And don't say all of them haha
I have the Nexus 7 right now and I love it! The lack of LTE doesn't really bother me because I know T-mobile HSPA+ is more then enough. The glass design makes me really happy because I feel like its the first android phone worth showing off to people! I'm just so used to the speed on my Nexus S that when I turn on the Nexus 4 I'm expecting a world's of difference. I can't wait!
I just can't wait to see the giant difference!
No bumper for me I'm very careful with my phone, I hope I keep my track record up though haha!
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It really is everything! Its like comparing an old analog TV to the new sleek and HDTVs. The nexus 4 has a beautiful design, quadruple the ram, excellent cpu and GPU hardware, and a gorgeous HD LCD display. It really is better in every aspect in my opinion
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