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G1 Successor?

Ive been wondering all these damn phone companies including HTC the maker of the G1 has been primarily focusing on Iphone look-a-likes, maybe i just dont really like Iphones or my G1 is getting old lol, i would love to see development for a True G2, i mean i bought the mytouch i regretted it so bad just a piece of **** phone, maybe i got used to the keyboard or something but anyways, what do you guys think would be great specs for successor for the G1?
I think Video,RAM,Processor would ultimately become something great if added multitouch, 5-8 megapixel cam with flash would be great , Java would be fun!! what else do you think would make this Android Lover Dream.
Design?

A sleeker look. They should thin it out a bit but keep the same Device keyboard and its format.
...With 2.1 eclair Firmware =>

Specs equal to or better than GN1, physical keyboard with properly aligned keys (you know, where the A-S-D-F row is offset by half a key from the Q-W-E-R and Z-X-C-V rows), and most importantly.....
FULLY DOCUMENTED HARDWARE, i.e. full open source drivers so that we can take command of the device when the manufacturer decides to stop supporting it....

The Mytouch slide might be it..

I'd be all over a Snapdragon phone with a QWERTY.

Ace42 said:
The Mytouch slide might be it..
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I'm pretty sure that's still using the 528Mhz processor.

yeah seriously would be nice i love the G1 i mean no-other keyboard phone has been released, i do like the separated keys on the Hardware key since i have huge hands it feels at home. maybe the snapdragon processor, with a fully customizable android OS or at least UI or something, the 2.1 Update of Android really kicked it up a notch but i know that there can be a better looking OS in the end with tons of great features. mytouch slider would be interesting but i dont know isnt a bit too big for a slider? unless they do a built in battery and well do a similar design as the palm pre.

mrxkills said:
yeah seriously would be nice i love the G1 i mean no-other keyboard phone has been released...
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Remember the Droid?

Diceman4 said:
Remember the Droid?
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That's exactly what I was thinking

I agree that I'm disappointed by the lack of phones with a hardware keyboard. I'd also like to see hardware buttons used instead of the touch-based ones like the Droid and N1 have--as well as preserving the Call and End buttons of the G1.
I'd be happy to see HTC introduce a phone that looks nearly identical to the G1, with these improvements:
>=3.7 inch 800x480 Screen
Snapdragon 1GHz Processor
>= N1's Memory Specs
Android 2.1
Barring this, I hope that an N1 with a good hardware keyboard comes along. Until then, I'm sticking with the G1.

highvista said:
I agree that I'm disappointed by the lack of phones with a hardware keyboard. I'd also like to see hardware buttons used instead of the touch-based ones like the Droid and N1 have--as well as preserving the Call and End buttons of the G1.
I'd be happy to see HTC introduce a phone that looks nearly identical to the G1, with these improvements:
>=3.7 inch 800x480 Screen
Snapdragon 1GHz Processor
>= N1's Memory Specs
Android 2.1
Barring this, I hope that an N1 with a good hardware keyboard comes along. Until then, I'm sticking with the G1.
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You forgot not the size of a brick

JAguirre1231 said:
You forgot not the size of a brick
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That would be nice, but it's not critical to me if it means a hardware keyboard at least as useful as the G1's and a good-sized battery. I also find if a phone gets too skinny, it's hard to comfortably hold when in use.

1.5Ghz HTC Scorpion, it's just rumors for now. Slap on a hardware keyboard on this bad boy and I'm set for life.

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1.5Ghz HTC Scorpion, it's just rumors for now. Slap on a hardware keyboard on this bad boy and I'm set for life.
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The Scorpion would rock, but unfortunately it's likely fake. A lot of stuff in the build file does not add up. But man, it would rock.
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highvista said:
I agree that I'm disappointed by the lack of phones with a hardware keyboard. I'd also like to see hardware buttons used instead of the touch-based ones like the Droid and N1 have--as well as preserving the Call and End buttons of the G1.
I'd be happy to see HTC introduce a phone that looks nearly identical to the G1, with these improvements:
>=3.7 inch 800x480 Screen
Snapdragon 1GHz Processor
>= N1's Memory Specs
Android 2.1
Barring this, I hope that an N1 with a good hardware keyboard comes along. Until then, I'm sticking with the G1.
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Yeah I'd totally go for the Nexus One specs with the G1's keyboard and hardware buttons. Not to mention a 3.5mm jack, which the G1 is sadly lacking. But then again, I'd take the G1's keyboard on just about anything. It's second to none of any PDA or smartphone I've seen, except perhaps the Atari Portfolio... and yes I remember when that was released! That's the G1's ancestor, the G1 being 20 years in the making...
As for camera, I REALLY wish they would concentrate on getting the cameras to take quick shots without blur rather than aiming at high pixel count. I like my cell phone to take quick snaps, even in questionable lighting. I'll use a real digital camera for high quality shots.

JAguirre1231 said:
That's exactly what I was thinking
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lol i know and the cliq but im talking about a real G1 successor by HTC the keyboard from droid/cliq suck balls!!!! big hairy ones too lmaoo

pimpin214 said:
Yeah I'd totally go for the Nexus One specs with the G1's keyboard and hardware buttons. Not to mention a 3.5mm jack, which the G1 is sadly lacking. But then again, I'd take the G1's keyboard on just about anything. It's second to none of any PDA or smartphone I've seen, except perhaps the Atari Portfolio..."
" and yes I remember when that was released! That's the G1's ancestor, the G1 being 20 years in the making...
As for camera, I REALLY wish they would concentrate on getting the cameras to take quick shots without blur rather than aiming at high pixel count. I like my cell phone to take quick snaps, even in questionable lighting. I'll use a real digital camera for high quality shots.
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couldnt have said it better myself, the keyboard just makes the G1 what it is today,Im keeping the G1 till something else comes out thats tops the G1..maybe HTC decided to tease us and that was it just a tease...i mean come on! Sapphire(Mytouch,G2),Hero (G3)GSM/CDMA, i could care less for a sense UI but i would love a more snappier up to date G2 and i mean the real G2

This is the same situation that led me away from WinMo phones.
The HTC Universal was pretty much the perfect device..... A successor was touted for years but nothing ever materialised....
Same is happening here, the silly non-hardware buttons on the face which are totally non-intuitive, 4 row keyboards requiring 2 button presses to produce a number.....
I don't hold out much hope for anything better, looks like a concession will have to be made somewhere...

Inbrics M1?

su27 said:
Inbrics M1?
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The keys are incorrectly aligned. Look at a real keyboard -- the "ASDF" row is offset by a half key from the "QWER" and "ZXCV" rows. DREAM had the keyboard alignment right. All this other stuff is JUNK.

Thinking about trading your vibrant for the mytouch hd? Read this

I'm sitting here playing with the mytouch hd side by side with the vibrant and there were a few things that I noticed:
1. The mytouch hd's screen is horribly unresponsive compared to the vibrant's buttery smooth super AMOLED.
2. The mytouch hd's screen is also not as bright and "vibrant" in color as the vibrant.
3. The mytouch hd's form is horrible. It seems as if htc was trying to combine blocky and smooth. Its just uncomfortable to grip. The vibrant's is more comfortable due to its round edges.
4. I'm am impatient guy. This phone is slow. Switching out of apps and even waking up.
5. The linpack score is surprising for froyo with jit compiler....I averaged around 3.8 - 4.1 MFLOPS........now that, is pathetic.
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6. And for those who care about quadrant scores (I don't) ~1600...which is pretty good for stock.
*Posted on my phone. Sorry about the horizontal shots
Okay, now the purpose of this thread is not to bash the mytouch hd, but to help keep the vibrant community large. The concept of the phone is great (FFC, froyo, HSDPA+). The vibrant could use these "things" but I don't think one should switch from the vibrant to a mediocre phone that has an extra feature or two, but lacks in other areas...In conclusion, the vibrant IS the best phone t-mobile owns, despite the failed upstagers
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cthach11 said:
I'm sitting here playing with the mytouch hd side by side with the vibrant and there were a few things that I noticed:
1. The mytouch hd's screen is horribly unresponsive compared to the vibrant's buttery smooth super AMOLED.
2. The mytouch hd's screen is also not as bright and "vibrant" in color as the vibrant.
3. The mytouch hd's form is horrible. It seems as if htc was trying to combine blocky and smooth. Its just uncomfortable to grip. The vibrant's is more comfortable due to its round edges.
4. I'm am impatient guy. This phone is slow. Switching out of apps and even waking up.
5. The linpack score is surprising for froyo with jit compiler....I averaged around 3.8 - 4.1 MFLOPS........now that, is pathetic.
6. And for those who care about quadrant scores (I don't) ~1600...which is pretty good for stock.
*Posted on my phone. Sorry about the horizontal shots
Okay, now the purpose of this thread is not to bash the mytouch hd, but to help keep the vibrant community large. The concept of the phone is great (FFC, froyo, HSDPA+). The vibrant could use these "things" but I don't think one should switch from the vibrant to a mediocre phone that has an extra feature or two, but lacks in other areas...In conclusion, the vibrant IS the best phone t-mobile owns, despite the failed upstagers
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How did you get it to test with?

I don't see the MyTouch as better or worse as a phone... I see it as different and being bundled with some features that the Vibrant doesn't have to give it a niche.
I handled the phone for a minute or two at a local T-mobile. It is noticeably heavier than the Vibrant. The screen is alright, but not quite as nice as the Vibrant's.
I didn't notice a speed difference, but then I didn't get to play with it for long.
The major selling point for the MyTouch will be the front facing camera and the lack of TouchWiz. HSDPA+ might be a selling point for some people, but not for me... tower-to-phone transfer rates are not usually my bottleneck when surfing.
T-mobile is launching their tethering service along with the phone ($14.99 a month for a feature that your phone can already do).
I agree that the MyTouch is a poor choice for an upgrade from a Vibrant. Better to wait until December or even Jan/Feb to see if any Gingerbread phones are released.
If you are upgrading from a G1, then the MyTouch is certainly worth a look. HTC is usually pretty good about updating their devices, so you can be reasonably certain that the device will get at least the next release of Android.

Mark271 said:
How did you get it to test with?
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Lets just say that I have friends in low places who are just as curious as me
Tarzanman said:
I don't see the MyTouch as better or worse as a phone... I see it as different and being bundled with some features that the Vibrant doesn't have to give it a niche.
I handled the phone for a minute or two at a local T-mobile. It is noticeably heavier than the Vibrant. The screen is alright, but not quite as nice as the Vibrant's.
I didn't notice a speed difference, but then I didn't get to play with it for long.
The major selling point for the MyTouch will be the front facing camera and the lack of TouchWiz. HSDPA+ might be a selling point for some people, but not for me... tower-to-phone transfer rates are not usually my bottleneck when surfing.
T-mobile is launching their tethering service along with the phone ($14.99 a month for a feature that your phone can already do).
I agree that the MyTouch is a poor choice for an upgrade from a Vibrant. Better to wait until December or even Jan/Feb to see if any Gingerbread phones are released.
If you are upgrading from a G1, then the MyTouch is certainly worth a look. HTC is usually pretty good about updating their devices, so you can be reasonably certain that the device will get at least the next release of Android.
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I couldn't agree more. Gingerbread should be the next device you upgrade too.
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At the corporate stores for T-Mobile there is a MyTouch champion at each one, they've had the device for a few days now. My guess is that's how he's using one, either himself or a friend is such said "champion".

What would make the mflops so low? I thought it had similar internals to the g2, but with more ram?
Either way, I'll be envious of the options it has (ffc, hspa+, flash) but not enough to want to change from my vibrant. Same goes for the g2 and "nexus 2".
Sent from my Team Whiskey Powered Vibrant

First of all it is called the MyTouch 4G, not the HD.
Secondly, I am sure the Linpack mflops score is a fluke. Actually 100 percent certain once it is officially for sale, you are going to see crazy high Linpack scores.
And lastly, just call your local T-Mobile, if the employee is nice you can already go in and they will pull it out of their secret drawer and let you play with it.

The ffc looks badly out of place.
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I've gotten to use the phone as well. It seemed just as quick as my vibrant. I didn't do any benchmarks, but intensive apps like angry birds and such loaded with about a 1 second difference, in favor of the mytouch. Although im sure i didnt open them exactly at the same time. I completely agree on the screen though. It looks really faded and washed out. I toyed around with the settings as much as I could and just couldn't get the screen to look any better. It's like they wonked out the contrast. The build quality is solid, but it seems pointlessly heavier too. It felt nearly as heavy as the g2 which doesn't make sense for a phone without a phys kb imo

That is where the ffc is...
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I tried the myTouch, it's not all that. The reception was below that of my Vibrant on JI6 (dropped to EDGE often) and the screen did look extremely dull. Also it was kind of blocky feeling because of the white rim and the indentation on the side. Otherwise it's nice, I'm sure the speakerphone sucked though. The speaker on the Vibrant is really good, there is a lot of detail for such a small underpowered speaker (when listening to music of course). Also I'm 100% positive that the Vibrant is way better for music and video.

**Video and Benchmark Uploaded** anyone considering LG Optimus S? I'm impressed

I was in the sprint store today and notice the Optimus S and was IMPRESSSED.
It's very responsive and smooth. I was really curious to why and after some research..
Qualcomm MSM7627 chipset with dual cores really help with graphics and games.
technical specs:
* Two ARM cores integrated into a single chip – a dedicated CPU core and a dedicated modem processor – for an unparalleled level of integration:
o 1. 600MHz applications processor with floating point unit and L2 cache
o 2. 400MHz modem processor
Finally Got it
Here's my video showcasing the SPEED of apps and games:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4chj2BOUec4
-1st app I launch was GoogleMaps, then Youtube, Angry Birds, and Burning Tires
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Compared it side by side (I have overclocked hero)
What I liked..
-TONS faster than hero, website scrolling smmooooth
-It's only $50...
-3G so no $10 surcharge
-Slightly brighter
-I believe it was 512mb ram (hero has 256?)
-Doesn't feel cheap at all
What didn't liked...
-No led light, but there's some apps that can make your phone vibrate for notifications
-Fiberglass display (scratches easier, but will not crack if dropped)

mxl180 said:
I was in the sprint store today and notice the Optimus S and was IMPRESSSED.
It's very responsive and smooth. I was really curious to why and after some research..
Qualcomm MSM7627 chipset with dual cores really help with graphics and games.
technical specs:
* Two ARM cores integrated into a single chip – a dedicated CPU core and a dedicated modem processor – for an unparalleled level of integration:
o 1. 600MHz applications processor with floating point unit and L2 cache
o 2. 400MHz modem processor
Compared it side by side (I have overclocked hero)
What I liked..
-Faster than hero, website scrolling smmooooth
-It's only $50...
-3G so no $10 surcharge
-Slightly brighter
-I believe it was 512mb ram (hero has 256?)
What didn't liked...
-No led light, but there's some apps that can make your phone vibrate for notifications
-Fiberglass display (scratches easier, but will not crack if dropped)
-Something I notice the DATA loading was noticeably slower on LG, maybe because my hero is cynogenmod data tweaked??
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i have both phones and i love the optimus. it loads up real fast compared to the hero. i will not get rid of my optimus unless it is for an evo. that is how good of a phone that i think it is. it also has alot hotter receiver in it and gets a signal in places that i couldn't before. overall i rate it an 8.5 out of 10

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i have both phones and i love the optimus. it loads up real fast compared to the hero. i will not get rid of my optimus unless it is for an evo. that is how good of a phone that i think it is. it also has alot hotter receiver in it and gets a signal in places that i couldn't before. overall i rate it an 8.5 out of 10
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Mm, thats nice to hear. Maybe my mom would like an Optimus instead of her crappy blackberry.

Intersting, I didn't expect it to be that great! Now I'm looking forward to try one out

I was looking at the Optimus too. My heart REALLY wants an Evo but my head just cant justify paying for the 4g service when it's not in my area and probably wont be for a very long time.

I just bought this phone and I am in LOVE. It feels soo good in your hand, perfect weight and balance. The screen is vibrant, battery life good, and with froyo 2.2 it is amazingly buttery smooth. It makes the EVO seem like a goliath in a good way. Perfect phone and I've owned alot of phones. Now wheres our roms??!

My sister just got one of these and I was thoroughly surprises as well. The speed of this phone puts the hero to shame. Everything is fast and smooth with no lag anywhere. The scrolling the app drawer and most noticeably the typing are all fast and smooth. I'm running cm6.1 overlooked and here phone stock is 10 times better. Angry birds runs perfect on it and the gallery and camera have no hesitation when opening or being used. This is a good phone. I'm seriously considering buying it to hold over until another top of the line is released for gingerbread.
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I was thinking about the lg. before we moved to verizon.. But since getting the droid incredible..I cant think of any android I would rather have atm..perfect size. and everything just blazes.. Sprint really needs something like the DINC without 4g.. etc,, cause they have a big hole in the android selection..
Those midrange.. like the sanyo and sammy. both suck.. basicly they need a evo with a smaller screen and no 3g. oh wait thats the DINC..lol
Thats the only thing I like bout verizon the selection... Sprint always has gaps.
But that lg does like pretty decent.. might tell my bro.. since he has one of my heros atm.. still have 2 in my dresser with my tp2 and a tour..

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My sister just got one of these and I was thoroughly surprises as well. The speed of this phone puts the hero to shame. Everything is fast and smooth with no lag anywhere. The scrolling the app drawer and most noticeably the typing are all fast and smooth. I'm running cm6.1 overlooked and here phone stock is 10 times better. Angry birds runs perfect on it and the gallery and camera have no hesitation when opening or being used. This is a good phone. I'm seriously considering buying it to hold over until another top of the line is released for gingerbread.
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I just tried it at the store and completely agree, it's a suuuuuper fast and smooth experience. I don't know how they did it, but it's a joy to use.
I also agree with the comment above me. The Droid Incredible has the best balance of performance and physical size, and it would be awesome if Sprint had something similar without the 4G $10/mo surcharge.

At first I was a little iffy about letting a relative get the Optimus S before I got a chance to use it and read up on the drvice. Boy was I blown away by the phones speed and smoothness. Its a nice device that I wouldn't mind having for daily use.
Form factor is nice as well. It would be nice is a few showed up on eBay at a reasonable price,I'd be interested in getting one off contract to hold be over if I need a phone.
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It will be $1.00 at Best Buy on Black Friday. I also saw something about it being FREE at Radio Shack.
I've been reading up on this phone all over on different forums and from what I've learned:
Rooting can be accomplished by using Z4Root from the Market - even after the recent OTA update.
The OTA update includes Swype.
No Flash yet. The GPU is fast enough, but apparently it isn't supported by Adobe. Not sure 100%, but the GPU may be missing a certain hardware component to allow for true GPU-accelerated Flash. It would explain part of the cheaper price.

I dont care how good it is, I will never in LIFE buy any LG phone i dont care how fast or sleek it is I just wont.....what.....I have my reasons lol. HTC for the win or samsung. That is all.

dirkyd3rk said:
I dont care how good it is, I will never in LIFE buy any LG phone i dont care how fast or sleek it is I just wont.....what.....I have my reasons lol. HTC for the win or samsung. That is all.
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Agreed!

Haha, I agree on the HTC front - they know how to make a sweet phone, but have you seen the garbage that is the Samsung Intercept and Samsung Transform? Complete junk. The only I had two Samsung phones in my life - some old silver flip phone, and the A900 (best flip phone ever!), but as far as I can tell the only quality phone they make now is the Epic (and variants).

Samsung Intercept and Samsung Transform?
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And Samsung Moment all use the same processor and have an OpenGL ready chipset and no OpenGL drivers. This makes the phones crap. The Intercept is also EVDO Rev.0 which I believe fixed the radio lock bug that plagued the Moment. The transform is Rev.A (without the radio lock) but the same attrocious OpenGL performance. Samsung has completely failed at producing decent mid and low range android devices. it's remarkable.

thats why sprint needs a middle of the ground high performer. like the htc incredible.. even though i hate verizon.. This phone has really impressed me so far..

spiritcrusher33 said:
thats why sprint needs a middle of the ground high performer. like the htc incredible.. even though i hate verizon.. This phone has really impressed me so far..
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Forget middle of the road, I want a beastly dual core 4g monster!

A Sprint branded Desire Z/G2 would be really, really nice. I think Cyanogen said the G2 totally blows away his previous N1.

stayclean said:
A Sprint branded Desire Z/G2 would be really, really nice. I think Cyanogen said the G2 totally blows away his previous N1.
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Yeah, that with dual core!!!

Hero also haas a "dual core" modem/app processor. Technically the dual core devices that ate soon to got are tri core
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[Q] Is the Atrix worth leaving the Inspire?

I'm sure there are threads out there on this already, so I will make it short.
With the problems that the inspire has (bad internal antenna, sound quality, and so forth) is it worth switching to the Atrix, or should I head towards a different device? AT&T is pushing me for an early upgrade as I've exchanged 4 of the inspires for different reasons, and I'm not about to buy a phone that has a ton of issues.
Any info is greatly appreciated.

And, to add to it, I'm looking at the new Samsung Infuse, and the Captivate as a potential replacement. No reason to go back to a "regular" phone...
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Well the captivate is really outdated, and soon will the inspire will be to, the atrix is more future proof than both those phones
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It is. It's all around better. No Sense, either. Lol
I owned an Inspire for a while and couldn't stand it. I'm happy with the Atrix.
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I would go with atrix. I would stay away from phones that utilize amoled screens because of their inability to display whites correctly, huge power consumption when displaying any color other than black, burn in issues and color oversaturation.
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If you're happy to unlock BL and flash custom ROM then hell yes go for it. The hardware is excellent for the price and considerably futureproof (dual core 1Gb RAM = enough grunt for foreseeable future). It also has my ideal form factor (4").
However in its stock state I would recommend pretty much any other dual core phone aside from the LG2X. You'd be surprised how few people realise its dual core based on their impressions of the speed of the default launcher/home (ie its not that great unlike the immediate WOAH of SGS2 stock or the glitz of sense). Other minor niggles IMO include slightly buggy bluetooth (compared to my other droids), , power/usb is on the left, not bottom, and if you don't actually use the fingerprint reader feature, the power button placement is less than ideal.
Like I said thou once you custom ROM/kernel it absolutely flies
However to each their own, maybe you like motoblur (if I was addicted to social media I could see myself liking it a lot more) and don't mind the AT&T restrictions (no native SIP, have to pay for tethering).

Yep, bought one outright off contract today. Well worth it.

Stay away from Captivate
1. The Motorola Atrix is the best smart phone I ever had
2. The Samsung Captivate was the worst piece of crap I ever had. Went through 3 of them before finally giving up. Stay away from this one.
Diesel984 said:
I'm sure there are threads out there on this already, so I will make it short.
With the problems that the inspire has (bad internal antenna, sound quality, and so forth) is it worth switching to the Atrix, or should I head towards a different device? AT&T is pushing me for an early upgrade as I've exchanged 4 of the inspires for different reasons, and I'm not about to buy a phone that has a ton of issues.
Any info is greatly appreciated.
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Well you're asking in atrix forum, so HE'LL NO, don't go for it. All jokes aside, its a worthy successor to The nexus one. Surprised me. Slcd is impressive. And blinding at lowest brightness. And once you unlock bootloader and root it, the least you can do is flash a stock rom minus some of the bloat to get your toes wet on how capable it is.
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Diesel984 said:
I'm sure there are threads out there on this already, so I will make it short.
With the problems that the inspire has (bad internal antenna, sound quality, and so forth) is it worth switching to the Atrix, or should I head towards a different device? AT&T is pushing me for an early upgrade as I've exchanged 4 of the inspires for different reasons, and I'm not about to buy a phone that has a ton of issues.
Any info is greatly appreciated.
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Atrix doesn't have any major issues if you ask me (antenna, sound quality are all great).
+ We have an unlocked bootloader and CM7 on the way. With vanilla android Atrix will be amazingly future proof.

Go for the ATRIX. Its totally worth the 4g and dual cores.
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I have both atrix and inspire... The inspire has a much nicer ui tons of custom roms let's just say tons of eye candy it runs smoothly when overclocked mine is at 1.3ghz but can go up to 1.8ghz... Battery life sucks but can be tweaked for example my phone when asleep runs at a little over 300mhz and when on runs at 1.3ghz so it gives a full day with moderate use gps is the second best I've seen 1st being the Atrix of course solid build some say feels too heavy.. I like it.
My atrix like many people said is more future proof ui not so pretty great loud speaker comparable to the blackberry bold 9000 awesome GPS can't be beat by any mobile phone qhd display if you like that icons and keyboard seem soooo small after using the inspire for a while picture quality is grainy compared to inspire which is 8mp looks like iphone quality HD recording too me seems smoother on atrix... With the ui on the inspire it seems to do more then blur... Sense is integrated more with facebook and twitter in every aspect.. Sound on the headset on both devices are loud and clear so it's basically comes down to what you like
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worth it. it's a different level than the inspire. high resolution qhd display (ebooks look gorgeous with all those pixels crammed in), first dual core in a smart phone, 4g, high capacity battery. i believe i read that it is the biggest on a smart phone to date.the specs alone put inspire down hard. and on top of that active indie devs? go for it dude.
don't let that massive screen on the infuse hypnotize you. compare the actual display resolution. a full web page renders better on atrix than anything else att offers
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Atrix is also the only phone with a 1gb ram to this date also although stock it isn't utilized install a custom kernel and wham its so fast its hard, even frustrating to use any other device!
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I left the inspire for the atrix. Don't regret it at all. Love this damn phone.
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First of all, you're asking this in an Atrix Forum so I can only guess what most responses are going to be ; )
But seriously, I originally had an Inspire and I can honestly say that the Atrix has better functionality with battery life, screen resolution, call quality, etc. I would stay away from the Infuse since it has been rumored that AT&T's SGS2 variant should be out this month and they might also be offering a model with a pretty damn good looking keyboard on it as well.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/07/26/atts-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-outed-with-keyboard-in-tow/
(Note: the article is old and they have since confirmed that the phone pictured is NOT the SGS2 but rather a secondary model that may or may not be launched)
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I'm sure there are threads out there on this already, so I will make it short.
With the problems that the inspire has (bad internal antenna, sound quality, and so forth) is it worth switching to the Atrix, or should I head towards a different device? AT&T is pushing me for an early upgrade as I've exchanged 4 of the inspires for different reasons, and I'm not about to buy a phone that has a ton of issues.
Any info is greatly appreciated.
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Diesel984 said:
And, to add to it, I'm looking at the new Samsung Infuse, and the Captivate as a potential replacement. No reason to go back to a "regular" phone...
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Coming from a Nexus One, I tried an Infuse before I got the Atrix. It was slower than the N1, and it always lowered the brightness when used outdoors because of heat.
Happily returned it for an Atrix after it was released. Haven't looked back.
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Yes
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PH33R THE AWFUL VIBRATION MOTOR.
it might die on you after some usage. so you wont get vibration random or haptic feedback randomly.. QQ

I had an inspire before I got my Atrix and the only thing the insipre had over the Atrix was being unlocked.... and now that advantage is gone.
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Opinions on HTC Desire Z/G2

I'm looking to buy a Desire Z as a gift, and wanted to get some second opinions on the phone. Is the keyboard decent? What's the speed like? How sturdy is the keyboard hinge?
Also, is it fairly easy to root?
I've got an original Desire myself so if it's a roughly similar experience to that but with a keyboard then that'll be good.
Cheers

It's a great phone, 2nd Gen Snapdragon, Adreno 205 GPU...but it is also fairly late in it's life. The keyboard is great, and while people have differing opinions on the hinge, I haven't had any problems.
Just know that it doesn't hold a candle to the 1GB Ram/Dual Core beasts being released today.
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The hinge problem has been previously blown up, it is fine.
I couldn't imagine living and typing longer than an sms without a keyboard, I still love it and use it for longer input. If I was buying a phone now I probably could sacrifice the keyboard for a front camera or more CPU power or so. I could even buy a Desire S or a Sensation (just to be in this pricerange). Phones change quickly, quadband is here, I still love this phone.
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in my opinion its still a great phone... sure there are better ones out now rooting isn´t that easy, but not very hard too (if you know how to use adb, you are fine) If you are on 2.3+ it could happen that you need to create a goldcard while rooting...
...what rather concerns me right now is the fact that a lot of people seem to have a problem with a fried emmc chip.
here is a link to the wiki-guide for rooting (so you see how its done):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision

Thanks. Dual core and that isn't a concern, the intended owner is not really fussed about those kind of things, having a keyboard is more important, and I trust HTC as a brand.
Have ordered one now.

h0kum said:
Thanks. Dual core and that isn't a concern, the intended owner is not really fussed about those kind of things, having a keyboard is more important, and I trust HTC as a brand.
Have ordered one now.
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You won't regret it! Great phone with great devs taking care of it
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Like everyone said is great options is not a bad phone every 3d games or apps i like is here. U can use hulu plus and netflix. Adobe flash player 11.
Gameloft hd games
Glu hd games
And other what not to like about this phone? lol
does hd recording 720 p.
It have best keyboard after g1.

in my opinion its still a great phone... sure there are better ones out now
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I sure wish you could NAME a better phone that is out now!
Remember, it must have the reliability, style, and expensive feel of the G2, must have a great hardware (real) keyboard and beautiful gorilla glass screen like G2, and must be root/developer friendly, have removable battery, and it must provide wifi calling in my weak signal area and free tethering and portable wifi hotspot, and do all of this for US$60/month no-contract service with unlimited 4G everything and no overage charges possible like my G2!
what better one ya got that does all of that?
that's right - NOTHING!

WTF? said:
I sure wish you could NAME a better phone that is out now!
Remember, it must have the reliability, style, and expensive feel of the G2, must have a great hardware (real) keyboard and beautiful gorilla glass screen like G2, and must be root/developer friendly, have removable battery, and it must provide wifi calling in my weak signal area and free tethering and portable wifi hotspot, and do all of this for US$60/month no-contract service with unlimited 4G everything and no overage charges possible like my G2!
what better one ya got that does all of that?
that's right - NOTHING!
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An iPhone
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fade2black101 said:
An iPhone
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Ahah u can't be serious because the iphail contains none of the above..
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I concur, there is nothing else out there I could see me replacing it with at the moment. I need a hardware keyboard.. More ram and a faster CPU would be handy though... Refreshed DZ required

Great phone, and i will use this as long as it works. I'v had this about little over 11months now, no problems. Only thing is, screen has one frozen pixel in it, tough it's on the side, close to a corner so i barely even notice it, if i look for it, i can see it.
There is Motorola Droid 4 coming, sure looks nice whit that 5-row qwerty. If i would have waited a year longer to upgrade to smartphone world, id get it when it comes.
Now i'm planing on getting a tablet, to get the horsepower going on android. possibly transformer prime, or smth, wonder what CES brings to the table.
I love this phone! Sorry i got drifted to little off topic here.

I won't get another phone until there is a worthy successor. I would like to stick with HTC and I need a qwerty KB (well strongly prefer to have one) so here is hoping for a G3 sometime soon.
Until then though I still get great performance so no immediate rush.

There was also a Samsung qwerty slider I was reading about a while back, can't seem to find the article anymore.

Yea Samsung captivate glide, looks pretty good actually got a tegra 2 processor and 1gb ram... plus one of those beautiful Samsung screens

fredcorp6 said:
Yea Samsung captivate glide, looks pretty good actually got a tegra 2 processor and 1gb ram... plus one of those beautiful Samsung screens
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spec: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i927_captivate_glide-4071.php
look awesome tho. its like galaxy s2+keyboard

hopefully Q1 2012..
Dell Hancock.
Google it.

ewww iphone unless u want to be locked. Even with android without rooting u still will not be lock as you are with iphone.
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I agree with flinny if they can refresh desire z 2 aka htc t-mobile g3 with stock in usa. I would love to have front face camera,1gb of ram i hate using my mirror to video chat. Get amoled screen back like nexus one. Add the hardware 5 key rows they had on g1 to g3 .
Hopefully stop selling to many damn Htc phone their selling about 10-15 device every year i wish they can stay with 3-5. Limited their work because then they make users like me hack my phone to get update, that they should be doing themselves. Instead of making excuses on why they cant update 1 device to the other.

fredcorp6 said:
Yea Samsung captivate glide, looks pretty good actually got a tegra 2 processor and 1gb ram... plus one of those beautiful Samsung screens
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Looked very interesting to me at first, but reviews have been far from stellar:
[URL="http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/samsung-captivate-glide-at/4505-6452_7-35033579.html?tag=mncol;rvwBody#reviewPage1"]http://techcrunch.com/2011/11/20/review-samsung-captivate-glide-att/[/URL]
Looks like cheap exterior build quality, and crappy flat keyboard. Nice screen, but hardware specs are merely ok compared to other high end phones currently being released. A Galaxy IIS spec phone with decent keyboard would be killer. But this ain't that.
Can't any manufacturers come out with a high-spec phone, with a decent keyboard?