just picked up a used G2..does overclocking make a huge diffrcence? - G2 and Desire Z General

i have always rooted and overclocked my androind phones. got a g2, and was not really happy with the stock performance. it seems like a lenghty rooting process so i wanted to ask before i did it.
1. how much happier are you with your G2 now overclocked and running custom rom? what ROM?
2. my hinge is kinda "soft" is yours?
3. my screen does not seem that responsive compared to other phones. yours?
im trying to like it

dvigue said:
i have always rooted and overclocked my androind phones. got a g2, and was not really happy with the stock performance. it seems like a lenghty rooting process so i wanted to ask before i did it.
1. how much happier are you with your G2 now overclocked and running custom rom? what ROM?
2. my hinge is kinda "soft" is yours?
3. my screen does not seem that responsive compared to other phones. yours?
im trying to like it
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1) honestly it depends on what you do with your phone. if you use your phone as a 'phone,' then overclock does you no justice (ie messaging calls etc). If you do more than that, overclocking makes a huge difference. While the rooting process might seem lengthy to you, i'd say: do it!
2)my hinge is loose too but when i get off my arse and find a t5 torxdriver to open it up i'll put a new spring in and fix it (theres a tutorial thread on these forums regarding that)
3) i actually noticed with this phone that its grounded quite awkwardly. it doesnt respond if i place it down on certain materials and then touch it with only one finger. I have to hold the phone with one hand and touch with the other hand for completely accurate response (doesnt bother me cuz in real world situations i use both hands to hold a phone anyway)
despite its flaws, it does me a ton of justice! at least until some company releases a dualcore phone with a hardware keyboard, which i dont foresee happening anytime soon ; ;

Rooting is so simple with the G2. I did it all using the phone. Use the visionary temp root/g-free method.
I overclocked and the hinges got a hard on. Problem fixed
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1. how much happier are you with your G2 now overclocked and running custom rom? what ROM?
Overclocked mine to 1.3GHz and is working great. Did get hit alittle on the battery side, but I then invested in a 1800mAh battery and it now has good stamina to last a day of full use. I have Virtuous 2.0.2 with the Advanced Kernel by RMK. Much better than having the stock ROM by far.
2. my hinge is kinda "soft" is yours?
Hinge is really a non-issue for me. Would I prefer it to be alittle stiffer? Sure, but this is how it was designed to function, alittle loose to have effortless opening and closing. Perhaps in the future I will perform the spring replacement, but it's really not a huge issue.
3. my screen does not seem that responsive compared to other phones. yours?
The only problem I have is dragging the notification bar down. There is usually a 1-3 second delay, but that is due to Sense running in the ROM I am using now. Other than that, no real issues with the screen. Definitely better than the Hero's screen!
The overclocking procedure might look long and intimidating (no 'that's what she said' quotes there!) but trust me, it's worth it. Whether it's through ADB or on the phone alone, it's really not that bad.

eviLutions said:
Rooting is so simple with the G2. I did it all using the phone. Use the visionary temp root/g-free method.
I overclocked and the hinges got a hard on. Problem fixed
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Warning! If you don't want to risk bricking your phone, don't use visionary
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1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Mine got responsive after overclocking
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deliriousDroid said:
Warning! If you don't want to risk bricking your phone, don't use visionary
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I read about bricked devices that used Visionary and most of them used the perm root option in Visionary. I only did a temp root and used g-free to perm root.
Safest and easiet way for people who don't have a computer.
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eviLutions said:
I read about bricked devices that used Visionary and most of them used the perm root option in Visionary. I only did a temp root and used g-free to perm root.
Safest and easiet way for people who don't have a computer.
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This is true yes. But when I first rooted my phone I didn't know the risks of using visionary, and was just using it for permanent root. Then when I was using the gfree method, I had to use permanent root though visionary to make it work for some reason. Now that I know the risks I doubt I would ever use visionary again
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I do not really feel anything. It doesnt make going through screens smoother or anything overall if you handed me a stock and an overclocked g2 i would not know the difference without benching it.

I was scared to root my $200 (at the time) G2, But once i did a lot of doors opened up. I love getting rid of the bloatware and having a custom firmware is pretty nice too. I had to hold my breath the first time it booted with root enabled. as for over clocking i don't really use unless i am running emulators or games which isn't that much. I do under clock my CPU when the battery < 16% and when the screen is off seems to save a lot of battery life.

enp82003 said:
I do under clock my CPU when the battery > 6% and when the screen is off seems to save a lot of battery life.
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The CPU clocks down automatically when screen-off, so that's not really necessary. And hopefully your battery is always more than 6%.

redpoint73 said:
The CPU clocks down automatically when screen-off, so that's not really necessary. And hopefully your battery is always more than 6%.
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Sorry fixed the % thing thanks for noticing. I didn't know the G2 under clocked its self when its off is this with Official FW or just CM?

enp82003 said:
Sorry fixed the % thing thanks for noticing. I didn't know the G2 under clocked its self when its off is this with Official FW or just CM?
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It typical of the stock as well as CM. The CPU clocks up and down as needed, unless you tell it otherwise. For instance, I think the Performance governor clocks the CPU at maximum MHz all the time.

Basic answer to this question is yes it makes a HUGE difference.
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xsteven77x said:
Basic answer to this question is yes it makes a HUGE difference.
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+1 to that. Multi tasking is soo much faster and smoother with it overclocked
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i recently started overclocking my phone and i've noticed a difference, i'm on temp root though

Temp rooted with visonary a while back. I got it just over 1400 and its very fast and the I can still squeeze out a lot of battery time thru the day. That and getting an average of over 9mbs down and 4 up at my apartment in austin tx rocks face.
Plus I think temp rooting is better so I can reboot if I need to warranty out the phone.
Oh G2 how that g2x looks so good..
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Related

Goodbye Hero. Im not going to miss you.

Good bye hero. Thanks for...
1.) Random calls
2.) Lagging keyboard
3.) Force closing
4.) Overheating on wifi tether
5.) Never downloading anything from market until i turned wifi on/off.
6.) Always lagging so I end up not redialing someone, but dialing the last person I called/ who called me.
7.) ****ing bootlooping whenever i try jit or any jit rom
8.) Not supporting better porn sites
9.) Not printing money or making me an island and flying me there.
Thank you Htc Evo for...
1.) Everything
The evo prints money and puts you on islands? Damn I can't wait to upgrade!
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1) No random calls - front pocket has been nice to me so far, plus adding a lockscreen or disabling Menu(x2) to unlock seems to work as well
2) Swype, Dvorak, Swiftkey ftw
3) could be a whole array of different things related to the rom, kernel, app, etc.
4) errybody hates this you could try a handheld fan
5) lolwut probably a google talk issue
6) Mhm, mhm. wait a second.. "I end up not redialing someone" -> "Dialing the last person I called/who called me" What's your definition of redialing?
7) Jit'ing only feels good if you do it sparingly, otherwise you start to slow down and eventually your phone becomes impotent when it comes to jit
8) you're lonely.. we've all been there. Don't blame the phone, thats why you should get a laptop bigger screens ftw
9) Damn straight, completely agree with you
1) No random calls - front pocket has been nice to me so far, plus adding a lockscreen or disabling Menu(x2) to unlock seems to work as well -
(^Sure i can do that out of the box right?)
2) Swype, Dvorak, Swiftkey ftw
(^Shouldnt have to)
3) could be a whole array of different things related to the rom, kernel, app, etc.
(^tried them all, I think its the quality of hardware on the indivisual phone)
4) errybody hates this you could try a handheld fan
(^Or dunk it in water?)
5) lolwut probably a google talk issue
(^back to hardware)
6) Mhm, mhm. wait a second.. "I end up not redialing someone" -> "Dialing the last person I called/who called me" What's your definition of redialing?
(^ Hitting the send button to call the last person back who called me.)
7) Jit'ing only feels good if you do it sparingly, otherwise you start to slow down and eventually your phone becomes impotent when it comes to jit
(^I Jit constantly and never slow down, my 200 dollar hardware should jit all day and not blink)
8) you're lonely.. we've all been there. Don't blame the phone, thats why you should get a laptop bigger screens ftw
(^Jerking in elevators FTW)
9) Damn straight, completely agree with you
__(^Thank you)________________
Haha we need more people like you on this sub-forum
too bad you're leaving to the evo...I won't be there until possibly early end of winter. best of luck with that phone
dpeeps74 said:
The evo prints money and puts you on islands? Damn I can't wait to upgrade!
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Lol classic
I had all these issues on stock firmware lol it is sad. But on cm6, it us all fixed, except wifi tether heat and no island. Oh and the porn, but I don't really do that on the phone anyways
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danaff37 said:
I had all these issues on stock firmware lol it is sad. But on cm6, it us all fixed, except wifi tether heat and no island. Oh and the porn, but I don't really do that on the phone anyways
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My phone is my only porn outlet. The misses keeps an eagle-eye on the pc. :-(
Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Froyo on Hero action here!
incognito window on Chrome will keep that eagle eye from seeing a thing!
BINGO
CM6, modified kernel, XDA keyboard, battery tweak, launcherPro
What do I get? A fast and responsive phone running 2.2 that lasts 2 days on a charge. Sorry you have bad luck, or haven't optimized your phone to get the best out of it. Also, the "I shouldn't have to" excuse is weak if you're so disappointed in a phone that came out a year ago. I can't wait until the next big sprint phone comes along but to be honest I have nothing to complain about, I'm that satisfied. HUGE difference from the ****ty instinct I had before. lol
I don't get these farewell threads, just make the switch and move on. Maybe some here will follow your twitter but most of us are more concerned with the Hero. Not trying to be a ****, and I'm sure you're a nice guy and all, but I fail to understand why the world must be notified as to a person's purchases.
/rant
Or only make a farewell speech... when you are a dev or a themer.
rank78, which modified kernel are you using? I've been looking for a decent one.
user7618 said:
My phone is my only porn outlet. The misses keeps an eagle-eye on the pc. :-(
Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Froyo on Hero action here!
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Incognito mode ftw
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On a side note i bought an evo yesterday had an upgrade I was holding for a while... this phone is awesome I don't think ill be buying a tab now.
Don't worry guys ill stick around since ill always have a soft spot for the hero forum. I think its produced some of the best Serbs and themers
Ino i saidi want going to but the hero was getting boring
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rank78 said:
CM6, modified kernel, XDA keyboard, battery tweak, launcherPro
What do I get? A fast and responsive phone running 2.2 that lasts 2 days on a charge. Sorry you have bad luck, or haven't optimized your phone to get the best out of it. Also, the "I shouldn't have to" excuse is weak if you're so disappointed in a phone that came out a year ago. I can't wait until the next big sprint phone comes along but to be honest I have nothing to complain about, I'm that satisfied. HUGE difference from the ****ty instinct I had before. lol
I don't get these farewell threads, just make the switch and move on. Maybe some here will follow your twitter but most of us are more concerned with the Hero. Not trying to be a ****, and I'm sure you're a nice guy and all, but I fail to understand why the world must be notified as to a person's purchases.
/rant
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I had a ****ty instinct too! I bought 2 of them, one for me and one for wife. It was to be the iphone killer! Yeah right I remember they held a app contest, trying to get more developers to make apps for the phone. All that came was a few apps and a bunch of complaining from the dev that sprint wont release code to access things they needed to make the apps work! Frickin Sprint has been screwing people for a loooong time!!! Yet what do I do when its upgrade time? Get the newest POS Maybe next time I will hold out for the release that comes after the "new release" ie, hero/evo Thanks to all the devs who made my and everyones else's hero manageable
ASimmons said:
On a side note i bought an evo yesterday had an upgrade I was holding for a while... this phone is awesome I don't think ill be buying a tab now.
Don't worry guys ill stick around since ill always have a soft spot for the hero forum. I think its produced some of the best Serbs and themers
Ino i saidi want going to but the hero was getting boring
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does that mean bye bye to [THEME] DarkEdge UI
Naw ill still do it... the source is all screwed up so I have to move things around to then run my script on it... I just haven't had time to do it. But I will give me a week.
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cordell12 said:
I had a ****ty instinct too! I bought 2 of them, one for me and one for wife. It was to be the iphone killer! Yeah right I remember they held a app contest, trying to get more developers to make apps for the phone. All that came was a few apps and a bunch of complaining from the dev that sprint wont release code to access things they needed to make the apps work! Frickin Sprint has been screwing people for a loooong time!!! Yet what do I do when its upgrade time? Get the newest POS Maybe next time I will hold out for the release that comes after the "new release" ie, hero/evo Thanks to all the devs who made my and everyones else's hero manageable
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Got one sitting in my dresser drawer aka the phone grave yard was my wifes
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reedsw said:
Or only make a farewell speech... when you are a dev or a themer.
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Lmao! +1234567
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reedsw said:
Or only make a farewell speech... when you are a dev or a themer.
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Lol 10char

Archos 101 slow and useless box

How is it possible this box can compete with any boxes at all. Everything is slow, proxy not working.
Can say there is one good thing, ah maby that you dont need to use itunes.
Maby if darky can make a good rom for it. Someone needs to fix this box. Like it is now is the worst thing i ever used.
Auki
Stay away from this box
baukland said:
How is it possible this box can compete with any boxes at all. Everything is slow, proxy not working.
Can say there is one good thing, ah maby that you dont need to use itunes.
Maby if darky can make a good rom for it. Someone needs to fix this box. Like it is now is the worst thing i ever used.
Auki
Stay away from this box
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What is a box?try urukdroid it is great
gbohm said:
What is a box?try urukdroid it is great
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"Box" being the 101 itself?
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Yeah, normally one throws away the box (or stores it, in case they might want to return the gadget) and plays with the device. All the boxes I ever got were slow and useless, though as far as boxes go, my A43it came in a pretty nice box... minimal packaging, good sized, well organized contents...
Sorry for the pun, it was irresistible.
Ok! So let me buy something I'm probably not gonna understand, look up forums on it, make a profile, then write a weird long broken English rant on how much I hate the box it came in...
Yep, you're gonna get far in life. In case you didn't notice, on this site we all love our devices so please DO NOT TROLL.
Kthxbai!
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Actually I thought my box was fantastic. That glossy finish was just superb.
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And that plastic wrap that was on it. Just top notch. I found the opening and closing of the box very fast and streamlined.
And comparing to other boxes, it's large enough to hold decent sized items, but not so large that the box is cumbersome.
To show the holding capabilities, the box comes equipped with some sort of touchscreen.
I wasn't very interested in that though, so I just borke it and fired it in the bin.
The syrofoam though... I mean the workmanship is just fantastic. Straight lines, pointy edges. A+++
Also, what a nice touch it was that my box came packed IN A BOX! I mean, who would have thunk. A box to keep your brand new box in. Well done Archos. I tip my hat.
Well you shouldnt have bought it. I do agree outta the box this thing can be sluggish but after polishing and updating it, it can be a unique tablet. I am really satisfied with it. It can do most of it and you may need to know how to manage apps.
Hello,
I answer to this provocative title: having a galaxy S phone, I found my archos very slow at first compared to my phone. I made some settings (overdrive energy, setcpu at 1GHz all the time/performance, Zeam launcher) and now, I am very happy with my A101IT 16GB, but it's not quite as smooth/fluid as my phone...
super_sonic said:
Hello,
I answer to this provocative title: having a galaxy S phone, I found my archos very slow at first compared to my phone. I made some settings (overdrive energy, setcpu at 1GHz all the time/performance, Zeam launcher) and now, I am very happy with my A101IT 16GB, but it's not quite as smooth/fluid as my phone...
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What is overdrive energy?
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deliriousDroid said:
What is overdrive energy?
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go to 'settings/about device/power settings' and change your setting to overdrive.
d31b0y said:
Actually I thought my box was fantastic. That glossy finish was just superb.
And that plastic wrap that was on it. Just top notch. I found the opening and closing of the box very fast and streamlined.
And comparing to other boxes, it's large enough to hold decent sized items, but not so large that the box is cumbersome.
To show the holding capabilities, the box comes equipped with some sort of touchscreen.
I wasn't very interested in that though, so I just borke it and fired it in the bin.
The syrofoam though... I mean the workmanship is just fantastic. Straight lines, pointy edges. A+++
Also, what a nice touch it was that my box came packed IN A BOX! I mean, who would have thunk. A box to keep your brand new box in. Well done Archos. I tip my hat.
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The greatest post i have ever read on xda thank you i loled
CarsnGadgets said:
go to 'settings/about device/power settings' and change your setting to overdrive.
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Yeah it is a must it is unusable without that
CarsnGadgets said:
go to 'settings/about device/power settings' and change your setting to overdrive.
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I tried it... didn't notice any difference really. What is it supposed to do exactly?
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baukland said:
How is it possible this box can compete with any boxes at all. Everything is slow, proxy not working.
Can say there is one good thing, ah maby that you dont need to use itunes.
Maby if darky can make a good rom for it. Someone needs to fix this box. Like it is now is the worst thing i ever used.
Auki
Stay away from this box
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You fail...
deliriousDroid said:
I tried it... didn't notice any difference really. What is it supposed to do exactly?
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It allows it fo tun at 1ghz instead of just 800mhz
super_sonic said:
Hello,
I answer to this provocative title: having a galaxy S phone, I found my archos very slow at first compared to my phone. I made some settings (overdrive energy, setcpu at 1GHz all the time/performance, Zeam launcher) and now, I am very happy with my A101IT 16GB, but it's not quite as smooth/fluid as my phone...
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I'm in the same boat as you. I have an htc Evo @ 1150 mhz running CM7 and it is def superior to the Archos 101. The lag isn't bad now on the 101, it was terrible when I first got it, but full format, reinstall, 1 ghz kernel @ 1ghz min and max it aint so bad. I'm sure in a few months running a honeycomb mod off a class 10 SD card and OCed to 1200 mhz this will be one nice device.
gbohm said:
It allows it fo tun at 1ghz instead of just 800mhz
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Set CPU didn't work when I set it at 1000 before then?
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deliriousDroid said:
Set CPU didn't work when I set it at 1000 before then?
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Haha, never mind, I figured out what's going on. Without root, the power mode limits the Max CPU right? Then this setting is useless after rooting and using set CPU...
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Tastycakess said:
I'm in the same boat as you. I have an htc Evo @ 1150 mhz running CM7 and it is def superior to the Archos 101. The lag isn't bad now on the 101, it was terrible when I first got it, but full format, reinstall, 1 ghz kernel @ 1ghz min and max it aint so bad. I'm sure in a few months running a honeycomb mod off a class 10 SD card and OCed to 1200 mhz this will be one nice device.
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Agreed, but since i have only class 4 SD, i gave up on OC.
And one thing, beware the application that run as services. It could eat your RAM and makes your Archos totally lag.
bobih said:
Agreed, but since i have only class 4 SD, i gave up on OC.
And one thing, beware the application that run as services. It could eat your RAM and makes your Archos totally lag.
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What does sd hast to do with oc ?

Using Note without rooting or custom ROMs

Would you see any problem with me using the international version of the Note without rooting or using custom ROMs? Are there any annoyances you're experiencing with the stock ROM? Will Samsung actually update this device for atleast a year? My U.S. Samsung devices never got updates, but that might've been mostly the carrier's fault
Unrooted note?
I haven't rooted my note yet, and I don't have any complaints. To be honest, I really don't see a reason to root it, at least not until a functional ICS ROM is available for it. As for the updates, the main update we're looking for is ICS which I'm hearing may not be available until April though.
Ive not rooted my international Note either.
Love it!
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I've rooted mine only... but to be honest I only did it out of habit.
I don't think I've actually used root for anything and will only use it to install ICS if CM9 hits before the samsung release.
I'm only rooted. Nothing more.
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I'm just rooted and CWM'd... Until either a semi-stable full featured CM7 port comes out, or even better, a CM9 port, I can tough it out waiting. One thing is for sure though.
I WILL GET TOUCHWIZ OFF THIS DEVICE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
It's slow, it's laggy, the home button takes a CRIMINALLY long time to return to my homescreen from just about every app... it's the worst.
Samsung Galaxy NoteNexus. That'll do =)
Same here , didn't root it yet and loving it but would definitely would root it to tell the difference in two....
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I haven't rooted it yet. I see no point. I used to root for taking snapshot in previous Androids. With GS2, I rooted to install few custom fonts. The only reason if I will ever need to root Note would be to install AdFree but screen is so big I don't mind few space taken away by ad and morally if I am using free version, developer should earn something from ads.
I didn't find a reason to root it either,I usually do it to install the Armenian fonts but the GNote came already installed.
The unit I have is fast and no lags so no worries in that front either.
I have rooted neither. I would only consider when stop getting OS upgrade. I will wait for ICS till then have enough to enjoy.
Gazzz said:
It's slow, it's laggy, the home button takes a CRIMINALLY long time to return to my homescreen from just about every app... it's the worst.
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I agree, that lag sucks!
The lag is caused by voice control. Voice control is activated by pressing the home button twice, so when you hit it once the phone waits awhile to see if you're going to hit it again.
I rooted though I told myself not to...I'm just hooked to it!
Seriously, I like freezing the bloatware and deleting stuff that take up unncessary space and also cause my phone to slow down. With ICS, I believe one can just delete the apps without rooting, which will be great.
Based on my experience with the Galaxy S and S2, ROMs are just not worth the effort for me, except for the very lightweight ones that are deodexed and not much more.
I believe you can use the phone unrooted, unless you have itchy fingers like me.
I am Rooted, as you know second most reading thread 'How to Root' i hav wrote, n i cant stop myself unrooted. But really i can say some must things you can define 'need' are such
- To use Titanium Backup(really itz boring jobe to restore all application n setting withot it)
- If your place dont support Google Navigation
- Use set CPU (really battery sucks without this
- N atleast for me 'Root call blocker'
More thn this i dont think any must use for root.
Even myself have wrote thread how to, but i hav not pushed CF root till to my device
Incidentally if you use the superoneclick method of rooting there is an "unroot" feature built in as well.
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I just singleclick rooted, so I could backup and freeze apps. None of the custom roms interest me yet.. Haven't installed cwr either.
Freezing voice control gets rid of the home button lag, good advice!!
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I am Rooted, as you know second most reading thread 'How to Root' i hav wrote, n i cant stop myself unrooted. But really i can say some must things you can define 'need' are such
- To use Titanium Backup(really itz boring jobe to restore all application n setting withot it)
- If your place dont support Google Navigation
- Use set CPU (really battery sucks without this
- N atleast for me 'Root call blocker'
More thn this i dont think any must use for root.
Even myself have wrote thread how to, but i hav not pushed CF root till to my device
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Dr Ketan,
Can you please elaborate on the following points:
1. "If your place dont support Google Navigation"
How does rooting your phone help getting Google Navigation to work? Navigation does not work in my area, so would be good if you could share some tips.
2. "Use set CPU (really battery sucks without this)"
Are you under clocking the CPU in order to get better battery life? Can you give more details on this? Won't this make the phone more laggy?
Yumunum said:
Would you see any problem with me using the international version of the Note without rooting or using custom ROMs? Are there any annoyances you're experiencing with the stock ROM? Will Samsung actually update this device for atleast a year? My U.S. Samsung devices never got updates, but that might've been mostly the carrier's fault
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I've rooted mine, but have not loaded a custom ROM. The main reason for rooting is for running ClockSync, Titanium Backup Pro and Theft Aware (now Avast).
Rooted.
So I can use Chainfire 3D for a night mode.
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Dr Ketan,
Can you please elaborate on the following points:
1. "If your place dont support Google Navigation"
How does rooting your phone help getting Google Navigation to work? Navigation does not work in my area, so would be good if you could share some tips.
I understand there is a method by loading a modified Google Maps / Navigation APK that removes the unsupported location message. I had a brief look at the process and seemes a little complicated and I just use NDrive.
2. "Use set CPU (really battery sucks without this)"
Are you under clocking the CPU in order to get better battery life? Can you give more details on this? Won't this make the phone more laggy?
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No. I was very skeptical at first about this, but I have run SetCPU on my Galaxy SII to test and performance was great and it seemed that battery life was also no problem. I installed SetCPU on my Note soon after I rooted it and have felt no performance decrease. SetCPU has a "ondemand" setting, this will change the speed of the CPU according to the needs of the apps running. Much like the SpeedStep technology found in laptops.
SetCPU has a nice info display and it shows the "Time in State" from this you can see what time your CPU is spending at each MHz increment. It stands to reason if 80% of the time the CPU is running at 200 MHz it's using less than running at 1400 MHz.
I've included a screen cap of the Time in State display from my note.
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Dr Ketan,
Can you please elaborate on the following points:
1. "If your place dont support Google Navigation"
How does rooting your phone help getting Google Navigation to work? Navigation does not work in my area, so would be good if you could share some tips.
2. "Use set CPU (really battery sucks without this)"
Are you under clocking the CPU in order to get better battery life? Can you give more details on this? Won't this make the phone more laggy?
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Yes sure i will guide, how you can activate google navigation in india
First Download this
Now you have req Root, and Root explorer app, b'coz you have to remove maps.apk app from Sys/apk directory, and replaced with above said application.
Anyway there is still one method, which doesn't require root, but you wil get double icon each fr lattitude, map, navigation etc(with minor difference)
if you need navigation in india then you can use that modified version of map. I mean new modified version which allow you to use navigation will install along with original map.
for this download this, and simply install like other application.
Now regarding Set CPU, i think somone hav already answered n explined nicely.
After installing SEtCPU, you will get control over CPU speed(directly affect battery performance)
e.g. If you add profile when screen is off, CPU set to 500 mH. then definetely your battery drain diminished < 1%/hr in idle state(screen off) compare to > 2 % with 3G n Data on idle state
There won't be lag issue b'coz you are under clocking in off screen state only.

Proof that ICS for the ns4g has serious reception issues..

So.. I'm sure some of you have seen me *****ing about my battery life. Well 2 days ago I moved back into my mothers. Where she lives, sprint is pretty weak. So for 3 days I've had basically 0 web access. No 4g at all and 1 bar of 3g. I thought this was normal. I had a job interview today at home depot and couldn't make a phone call for about 2 hours. Or send a message or even get 3g service. So I decided tto flash back to gingerbread tonsee of that helped. It did. I was able to make phone calls and messages and even have 3g service inside the home depot. Which I couldn't do with ICS installed. So unjust thought it was a tower being worked with. I just got home. And to my surprise I have a stable 3g connection. No longer do I have to walk out the door just to have 1 bar of 3g. Im sitting in my living room right now and I'm on Facebook, doing some web browsing and obviously posting on xda which was IMPOSSIBLE last night.
Google, there is something really wrong with ICS. Please.. for the love of god figure out why ICS has bad signal really reception compared to GB.
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not sure what the exact background to all of this is, but did your radio change between the two ROMs?
Yes I did. I tried all 4. Switched kernels left and right. Flashed roms left and right and always got the same result. If I hop back on gbread my battery goes 16+ hours with great reception. ICS gives me horrendous battery life.
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There is no official release for the ns4g so no google or sprint official cares at this point.
Evo_Shift said:
There is no official release for the ns4g so no google or sprint official cares at this point.
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This plus with 4.04 ICS and flashing the new radio I get even better reception than before.
ZeroCool84 said:
This plus with 4.04 ICS and flashing the new radio I get even better reception than before.
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+1 for what its worth
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This is with 3 hours of screen on time, and WiFi on.
I get better reception and a lot better battery life on ICS.
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This is with 3 hours of screen on time, and WiFi on.
I get better reception and a lot better battery life on ICS.
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That's it? Lol ill report back to you folks later on tonight when my batteries dead to gives you they results.
ATM..
Cm7 gingerbread with stock kernel
Scheduler set to noop and governer is set to smartassv2. I'm overclocked to 1.2ghz, have no wifi or 4g. My brightness is set to auto. Background data on auto sync off. Running the ke1 radio. No live background. And I also have a few apps frozen for good measure. (Market updater.. etc)
Ill post what I get on gbread. And tomorrow ill flash cm9 with the kl2 radio and ill show you what I'm talking about.
I get the feeling you guys think I'm a fool who just doesn't know how to use his phone. Well, just in case, I do.
Ill report back gents.
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I pretty much agree with you, I had serious battery problem with my i9020t with ICS, battery would not last 6hours. Flashed GB and its all good and so much faster.
But either Google or Samsung isn't really prioritizing on these phones, which is sad given its not yet more than 2 years old. I hope this is not the case and they spend time sorting out ICS. So far ICS haven't amaze me in anyways though, I just want a light and fast OS with good battery, GB is doing that right now, not an overly expensive quadcore phone with poorer battery life and only marginally faster.
RushAOZ said:
I get the feeling you guys think I'm a fool who just doesn't know how to use his phone. Well, just in case, I do.
Ill report back gents.
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I was just trying to relate my experience as being different. Please don't mistake feedback as criticism. I would like to see your results because this is how we all learn, relating our experiences to each other.
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I was just trying to relate my experience as being different. Please don't mistake feedback as criticism. I would like to see your results because this is how we all learn, relating our experiences to each other.
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Haha I'm sorry man lol I didn't mean to say you, but I'm sure at some point some dolt will come in here and call me an idiot and tell me I'm doing something wrong. Sorry it seemed I was implying that. Anyhoo this might be the reason its taking so long for us to get our ota. I don't think half of you will notice it because of your sitting in a position with a good signal your phones wont struggle as much. But to me it "feels" like theres a -10 dbm deficit in signal strenth. Right now I'm at -96dbm and I have 3g access in my living room. Flash ics and the only way ill get an ounce of data is if I step outside. And even then I only get a measly 1x.
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Don't flash the kl2 radio stay with the one your on I had a lot of problems with that modem, battery, search button sticking, and bad signal
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steviee7 said:
Don't flash the kl2 radio stay with the one your on I had a lot of problems with that modem, battery, search button sticking, and bad signal
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Wow guess these phones really are temperamental.
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Yeah lol I was like Wtf when I flashed that modem on cm9 I had so many problems thought it was the ROM and I changed so many roms until I changed back to the official modem and it worked perfectly with cm
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That's weird, a lot of ppl are having good experiences with the KL2. For me, it's the same with KE1.
Well as soon as I changed back to ke1 I stopped having the search button fire up and get stuck
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I get complete garbage data and phone recep with kl2. I agree with your initial comments. I have flashed back to gingerbread several times since ICS has been out and the difference in data and signal reception I far better on gingerbread. Not to mention battery and speed.
°•neXus S4G•°
I too have had worse signal on ICS but it was still pretty ****ty on GB too. i live in joplin missouri and half of our town got blown to **** by a huge ass tornado so i dont know if we lost towers or what? but i know that with my evo 3d i had much better signal then i do with my ns4g.
The thing is that the nexus s has signal issues to begin with.. even in its stock gb state. Sammy just put a ****ty chip in the phone. Probably the same that's in the epic because my si
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Pardon the above. ************* keyboard just randomly stops working. Any who I had around the same radio performance with my epic. I remember my buddy's evo had a much better reception and never got the "message unable to send" error. Can anyone tell me why the **** my keyboards freaking out? It literally just lags out and disappears on me for seconds. In the post above I had to restart the phone because the keyboard locked up and wouldn't get off the screen. I love ics but I've never had headaches and issues like this on gb. ****ing ota better be perfect I swear.
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LG G2 now, or hold on for Nexus 5?

I'm really torn between what we know about the G2 and the updates on the Nexus devices.
I'm coming from an Atrix, which was crapped on by Motorola, so I don't want get stuck on another device without updates or plenty of custom roms.
I don't think the Nexus 5 will be as good specs wise as the G2, but it will likely have more custom roms.
If you have the G2 now, how happy are you with it?
Do you feel there is a decent community building around the G2?
I can get an LG G2 from O2 in the UK for £10, and £22 a month, which may be cheaper than getting a Nexus 5 on contract.
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I am having the same thoughts too.
Bigger screen and battery, better camera.
But I would only want paranoid rom on my phone. Pie is the best for no hw buttons.
I can only hope when n5 comes out, the source will greatly help in g2 aosp roms
I think nexus devices have more aosp Roms. But devices with vendor overlays typically have a better variety of roms. Though the aosp run smoother in nexus devices. Cm is looking very promising for the g2.
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I don't even understand all these talks comparing the Nexus 5 to the LG G2.
There is one thing which is much more important than all other factors: While both don't have replaceable battery, the G2 has a 3000mah battery, while the Nexus 5 has a 2300mah battery. All other differences are negligible (Stock android or not, KitKat or 4.2.2, etc.).
Once the battery is at 0%, your phone becomes nothing but a paperweight, and this is going to happen much much (much) sooner with the Nexus 5.
I just picked up the LG G2, Its a beast.
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Stock vanilla Android sux and is boring as hell. The G2 was a no brainer for me.
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Noam23 said:
I don't even understand all these talks comparing the Nexus 5 to the LG G2.
There is one thing which is much more important than all other factors: While both don't have replaceable battery, the G2 has a 3000mah battery, while the Nexus 5 has a 2300mah battery. All other differences are negligible (Stock android or not, KitKat or 4.2.2, etc.).
Once the battery is at 0%, your phone becomes nothing but a paperweight, and this is going to happen much much (much) sooner with the Nexus 5.
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I'm not comparing, they're just the two phones I keep thinking about. I agree that the battery is a good draw, but as long as I can get from 7am to 10pm on light/medium usage I'll be happy.
I think the big issue with the Atrix updates was Nvidia, and with the N5 and G2 having similar hardware and also coming from LG, I would hope there was some transfer, similar to N1 and the HTC Desire.
I've seen reviews moaning about LG's software overlay, but people here sound happy enough, and with CM 10.1 I'm hopefully other custom Rome will follow.
I think I'm talking myself into it!
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I'm completely satisfied with my decision to get the G2. Although I'm on Verizon and I couldn't have a Nexus 5 if I wanted, I'd still have this opinion.
chronicfathead said:
I'm not comparing, they're just the two phones I keep thinking about. I agree that the battery is a good draw, but as long as I can get from 7am to 10pm on light/medium usage I'll be happy.
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On "light" use, maybe. On moderate use - hard to believe.
With the Nexus 5 and anything over light use, you're going to become an "electricity outlet zombie".
chronicfathead said:
I've seen reviews moaning about LG's software overlay, but people here sound happy enough, and with CM 10.1 I'm hopefully other custom Rome will follow.
I think I'm talking myself into it!
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The problem I always have with people who base their opinions off of others is that they don't think for themselves and assume whatever people tell them is the holy truth. Go to the store and try the LG g2 yourself and decide if the LG skin is really that bad. I have tried the LG skin and I don't have major issues with it but only minor issues with the notification bar.
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ericdabbs said:
The problem I always have with people who base their opinions off of others is that they don't think for themselves and assume whatever people tell them is the holy truth. Go to the store and try the LG g2 yourself and decide if the LG skin is really that bad. I have tried the LG skin and I don't have major issues with it but only minor issues with the notification bar.
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See that's the thing. Many reviewers just can't find anything wrong with the G2 that they will write as much as possible about their own personal whims, like this guy who takes all his strength to slam the phone as hard as he can, especially on the software part http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013...-gets-caught-living-in-the-shadows-of-giants/
I'm pretty sure the majority of people don't think LG UI is that bad. Even if the drawer is cluttered, just root and flash the verizon-esque notifications mod. It's not that hard.
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See that's the thing. Many reviewers just can't find anything wrong with the G2 that they will write as much as possible about their own personal whims, like this guy who takes all his strength to slam the phone as hard as he can, especially on the software part http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013...-gets-caught-living-in-the-shadows-of-giants/
I'm pretty sure the majority of people don't think LG UI is that bad. Even if the drawer is cluttered, just root and flash the verizon-esque notifications mod. It's not that hard.
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LG UI is actually pretty good, it's smooth and functional. It may seem a bit too much for some people but for average users it is actually quite nice.
G2 bro. Why get a watered down "Value G2" with empty stock? The fact you have to root it to like it defeats the purpose alone. Buy the phone that works out the box. G2 is my dream phone. I'm done with boring stock. I need features and battery.
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ericdabbs said:
The problem I always have with people who base their opinions off of others is that they don't think for themselves and assume whatever people tell them is the holy truth. Go to the store and try the LG g2 yourself and decide if the LG skin is really that bad. I have tried the LG skin and I don't have major issues with it but only minor issues with the notification bar.
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I haven't seen one in the stores yet, and I've been in a few last Friday. Hopefully I'll find one today. Everyone seems enthusiastic, and there seems to be more activity in the forums, which gives me hope.
Is the UK variant the same as an existing model in the dev forum?
My other thought was that if i'm not happy I can always sell it and get the same amount of money as I would in need to buy the N5 outright.
Thanks for all your input.
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It was between the g2 - note 3 - nexus 5 and I after much hands on testing and research I am fully confident that my choice in getting the g2 was a good one. Had it for 2 weeks and am loving it. The lg ui isn't bad at all and the features the stock rom offers are pretty good. I prefer double tapping the screen to turn on/off over to pressing a physical button, not just on this phone but any phone. Best battery life of any phone I've ever used, feels like ur using an extended battery. And the phone is slick with no hiccups. Go g2. Or wait for the galaxy s5.
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This G2 is by far the best phone I have owned. I'm still in awe that I can get 26 hours of battery life and still be at 10%.
The UI is fine by me in all aspects. Feels like stock but with some nice touches added. Love this phone and glad they had the Keep Your Unlimited Weekend!
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I also forgot to mention I don't like how you can't customize the app drawer icon like all the rest. Blah
What features are particularly desirable in the Custom Roms?
It seems easy enough to replace the Launcher and very heavily de-bloat the System.
The CPU is already fast enough to negate minor speed tweaks, although they're still possible.
You can already do per app DPI/resolution changes.
I appreciate custom roms as much as the next guy, but it seems to me that once you've changed the launcher, hidden the soft keys (Auto Hide Soft Keys) and changed the DPI, there's little stock (LG) left that's obtrusive.
Most of the stock tweaks are minimal:
QSlide floating apps are useful, but unobtrusive if you don't need it.
Tap on/off is actually useful.
It could really do with OpenMic like the Motorola.
To me I can't see how much we're losing or gaining on the custom roms, and it seems inevitable that they'll arrive soon enough anyway. CleanRoms are already out.
I've remapped the back button keys to give me a dedicated menu and back button. Although frankly, I almost never use the hardware buttons.
It's a great piece of hardware, but strongly recommend the 32GB variant.
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What features are particularly desirable in the Custom Roms?
It seems easy enough to replace the Launcher and very heavily de-bloat the System.
The CPU is already fast enough to negate minor speed tweaks, although they're still possible.
You can already do per app DPI/resolution changes.
I appreciate custom roms as much as the next guy, but it seems to me that once you've changed the launcher, hidden the soft keys (Auto Hide Soft Keys) and changed the DPI, there's little stock (LG) left that's obtrusive.
Most of the stock tweaks are minimal:
QSlide floating apps are useful, but unobtrusive if you don't need it.
Tap on/off is actually useful.
It could really do with OpenMic like the Motorola.
To me I can't see how much we're losing or gaining on the custom roms, and it seems inevitable that they'll arrive soon enough anyway. CleanRoms are already out.
I've remapped the back button keys to give me a dedicated menu and back button. Although frankly, I almost never use the hardware buttons.
It's a great piece of hardware, but strongly recommend the 32GB variant.
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Thanks.
If I get a G2 in the UK, what development thread should I be following, as there are three custom forums and a generic development thread. I've learned from my works G S3 that there are different versions and you have to follow the correct version.
I've been out and played with one in the shop, and played with a dummy phone, and it feels nice.
EDIT: Just placed my order, and hope to have it tomorrow!!
I hope to be become a valid member of the G2 community, and will try to help test etc where needed.
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Thanks.
If I get a G2 in the UK, what development thread should I be following, as there are three custom forums and a generic development thread. I've learned from my works G S3 that there are different versions and you have to follow the correct version.
I've been out and played with one in the shop, and played with a dummy phone, and it feels nice.
EDIT: Just placed my order, and hope to have it tomorrow!!
I hope to be become a valid member of the G2 community, and will try to help test etc where needed.
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I don't think there is a UK thread. Just follow the non US ones and mark the thread as 802 (our variation). Root and TWRP works fine.
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