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Well seem as there are endless threads with people moaning how much they dislike the HD2 I thought it was time to have one for people that are actually happy with it, because in fairness it’s by far the best phone I’ve ever purchased.
I’ve owned an iPhone and yes there are things that I miss like the great 3D games and apps in the App store, an integrated music store and most of all the genius playlist feature in the music player. All this is just software features though, and by the sounds of it WM7 will integrate them.
You think how much revenue Apple make through the iTunes music and App store you really think Microsoft are going to miss out on that opportunity? (Well okay there is the Marketplace but let’s face it, it was slapped together in 5 mins and that’s how it looks!)
Rumours of Zune integration have been mentioned several times and what a perfect way to introduce Zune into the European market. (You noticed how it’s been integrated on the Xbox in the past few months...)
Just a bit if patience is all that’s required. Have a feeling WM7 will cover all Windows Mobiles short comings.
However enough of what missing – now the good bit - the hardware kicks ass!
The screens amazing (My iPhone screen looks so tiny and low res when I use it now) and I love how responsive it is... everything’s instant and smooth. The phone looks amazing, love the brushed metal back and that slightly rubbery feeling black plastic, it feels expensive and looks great.
SenseUI is a joy to use. The weather background is a really nice touch and actually useful. More so I love how it uses the GPS and always knows where you are! Music player is good, love the cover flow art (yes they blatantly nicked that idea but least it looks great and works just as well)...
Internet is by far the best on a mobile. The large screen really shines through; it’s not far off a desktop experience and very useable.
Mine also came with CoPilot installed which I purchased (£27 with European map – bargain!) which works brilliantly... as good as a proper sat nav.
Lots of little things finish it off, the screen doesn’t just come on, it smoothly brightens... if someone calls me who isn’t in my phone book it asks me after if I’d like to save that number for future use... the ringer quietens when I pick the phone up... the list goes on...
I’ve had it 3 months and still love it as much as day one.
Okay it has frozen up on me a few times (It runs Windows, I mean come on a version of Windows that didn’t crash? Well that wouldn’t be right would it?) Since the firmware upgrade it’s actually been very stable (so far). Do still get the odd freeze when sliding to unlock which can be annoying. Nothings perfect and it can all be solved with software updates. (Oh and the battery lasts one day, I know, but some of us sleep at night and therefore find time to charge it!)
Anyway that was an essay but thought it was time that maybe we focused on all the great things for a change. Makes you wonder if people dislike it so much they don’t just exchange it? Most networks give you 14 days to swap (Well Vodafone did, I'm sure others do). Its funny how iPhones short comings always seem to get ignored isn’t it? It was launched in 2007 and software wise it was groundbreaking but its 2010 and little has changed... the HD2 makes it look, well... very 2000 and late
Glad to hear this against the backdrop of all the whining and distraught posts
"HTC SCREWED US!" lol.
+1, like this love my hd2 too
+1 love my HD2 really sweet and getting better by the day.
+1 love my HD2
I actually love my wife...
but HD2, I like quite well, too.
Lol... my girl friend has been complaining about me ignoring her and spend most of my free time on my HD2. (she asked me to hug the HD2 to bed! ) but that had changed though..
Love my girl friend first.
then the HD2..
+1 me too, absolutely love this beautiful beast of a phone, especially with the new 1.66 rom its amazing!
Agree
Agree with everything you say, i"ve had many mobiles and PDAs over the years including the iPhone 3Gs but nothing comes close to the HD2 at the moment, Fantastic Screen, Powerful Processor and very Fast and Responsive. Has everything i need. but more Apps will be great.
I had an HTC Diamond before I got my HD2. Its such a big step up.
Loving the GPS Never owned a GPS device before, and it sure is handy.
I love GOD, my wife, my family and I love my HD2!!!! Its "Fantabulous"... the best thing since sliced bread. )
I have to agree with all of the above.
I am somehow new to the smartphone mobile world ... had owned a N73 (nokia was my first love), an HTC Diamond (beautiful phone, also very customizable) continued with an Iphone 3g (very good for a while by my history with the Diamond made me miss it's overall liberty of choice and flexibility. The HD2 brought together all the things I loved about the previous phones; N73 camera (good camera for it's time, same with the hd now), Iphone's capacitive screen (we must admit, they started it) and the Diamond's screen quality, high resolution suitable for the screen size, the customization level (i must thanks MS and XDA).. and more, great hardware (with nice surprises, see the RAM discoveries).
Conclusion: I love this phone with all of its occasional lock-downs
+1.....Fantastic phone and more....Sure there's bugs.....but since the introduction there already have been some new Official ROM updates from HTC, so I guess that they are indeed listening to the people roaming around this place, and I'm sure that more Official ROM Updates will follow the next couple of months, which make it possible for the wonderfull cooks at XDA to perform their magic
I for one, will not be changing to another Mobile device for a long time !!!
I loved it with 148 and love it even more with 166, smooooth
I love my HD2 also.
Before I had a Qtec 2020i with 2003SE. Now the HD2
WinMobile is good and give you still some freedom. Freedom is something that you cant find by Apple. What I like most is the sync with a pc. The agenda and contacts works fine.
Together with a program Pocket Controller Pro, I can remotely type sms and other stuff. It is true that in some cases you need to search for a solution and it is not simple for some of us. But finding the solution give you even a greater satisfaction. The HD2 is not cheap but you get a lot for your money.
I agree too, Best phone i have ever had, definatly gets better every day, customised perfect for my needs, Excellent !
Can I just add to this:
I love God, my wife, my cat and the HD2.
In terms of instant gratification, however, I prefer the HD2. Mind you, the cat comes close.
rjstep3
Upgraded from an LG Secret myself, hell of an upgrade.
+ 1 Happy HD2 owner
love my hd2...check
love my pregnant missus....check
despise all religions and everything they stand for....check
can I still play with only 2 out of 3??
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love my hd2...check
love my pregnant missus....check
despise all religions and everything they stand for....check
can I still play with only 2 out of 3??
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...a bit harsh on the wife Sir, I shall pray for your soul.
Hello everybody!!
It's been a while since I have posted.
I decided to post a little story of me using the HTC HD Mini, and the conclusion and consequences thereafter.
During the almost 7 months I have used this phone daily; intensively, I experienced a great many things of which I made a report.
I decided to write this report because I want to help people who want an opinion.
And I will give it based on a user experience and of course some people are not going to agree with me and that's that.
And that’s ok! I didn’t take an hour of my time of thinking this through for the haters, but for the people who want an honest opinion on a product that we love.
I started with windows mobile 5 and after I bought the HTC Touch HD with Windows Mobile 6.0.x I wanted a phone that was faster, had better graphics and more user friendly apps. I wanted a phone I could have more fun with!
I chose the HTC HD Mini and in the end.. I still love it.
But not all is said with that opinion!
Now this was important to me because it made me change my mind about a lot of things regarding HTC AND Windows Mobile...
A view of the Mini…
The design of the mini was striking to me from the beginning, from its small, but workable size to its practical but esthetically pleasing exterior. And don’t forget the big yellow surprise on the inside!
It is cute and looks stabile at the same time. It has a big pocket factor and for someone of my posture its quite ergonomic. ( I am a small guy with small hands and fingers).
And so the mini found the mini
Interface
* I really liked the new sence interface, easy to use and more user friendly then touch flow 3D was.
* I liked the way windows mobile 6.5 is cloaked so to speak, in a way that it doesn't bother you, nor makes things unnecessarily complicated.
* The weather animation and wallpapers really made me smile the first time. I really loved that one
* HTC Peep made me use twitter for the first time and I really got the hang of it afterwards.
Media
* I was happy with the camera performance and liked the way I could take pictures and upload them if I desired to.
* The photo gallery was very nice to look at and easy to use.
* The video quality was good and I was satisfied. Although editing really would have made my day!
* The music player and the download option for various album covers made it fun to listen music, although I later decided not to use the function too much because I have a LOT of music…
I have experienced the fact that my mini became sluggish, in overall performance after I loaded up a few gigabytes of music.
That really bugged me because I had a more than capable memory card.
*The Facebook app and YouTube app were easy to use, though I would have liked the YouTube app to have more options regarding viewing profiles, comments, etc. My feeling was that it wasn't complete in a few aspects.
Performance
* One of the most positive things I have experienced was the good use of battery life. The Mini takes a good 2 days use with use of various media, 3g connectivity and viewing video's.
* With the connectivity I had some mixed feelings. Although I rarely lost a phone call due to signal loss I was not always happy with the results while tethering, and sharing internet connections. But the overall internet experiences were good and I rarely had problems with it.
Browsing and Web usage
- I was satisfied with opera. This is a stable browser and it is easy in use.
- The overall web experience was good but "mini". I have realized that I don't mind the mini size of the phone, but eventually prefer a little bigger screen for internet browsing. Though it wasn't really a big deal in practical, daily use.
- I rarely have had problems with sites loading the media, or slow loading of sites.
Overall I am satisfied with the web experience.
Customization
Here came the real deal breaker for me....
After I bought the mini I was under the impression that with the development of this phone, a window would be opened for the HVGA format and the windows marketplace. I believe this has failed. For me, in Holland there are really not that many apps available for the Mini. I missed that for a great deal!!
Updating the mini and customer support
What really got on my nerves (I think everybody's nerves) were some of the updates... I strongly believe that there is a lot to be said about FAILED support for this device.
The very badly worked out updates that is, HTC provided us with.
A lot of problems later, and very very crappy customer service, we still experience user interface problems that in most high end phones, are shortly dealt with.
I read XDA a lot and it surprised me to see still a lot of problems, which HTC SHOULD have fixed, modified or kept working on some problems hinting to things that could have been thought out better because they are really development issues.
Just to name a few...
- Problems with notifications sound as well as LED notifications.
- Problems with the phone not waking up when it should
- Problems with proximity sensors
- Problems with memory cards
And so on.
Personal conclusion:
I really do love this Mini! I love its exterior and I love its interior.
But.....
I don’t like the way it has been treated. It deserved better in a way.
I have the feeling this is the Cinderella story of an HTC ending line of windows mobile 6.5.x phones…
It closes a chapter, but leaves a lot of things open…
HTC made my regard for them fall, I was disappointed.
Windows Mobile 6.5.x is saying goodbye in a way, now that Windows Phone 7 is operational, but it doesn’t close with a bang. It closes very silently in my opinion.
In February, my contract expires and I can get a new phone.
And after several years… I am sorry to say, I’m saying goodbye to HTC and Windows Mobile. It wasn't the phone... it was it's broken potential in a way that made up my mind.
My interest now lies with the Iphone, it’s development and continuing evolution, it’s appeal to me has a great deal to do with the expandability, where Windows mobile 6.5.0 on the Mini ends, and Windows phone 7 constricts within it’s not even fully developed capability. I chose a different way.
My mini stays for the time being. But it will probably be my last HTC phone in a while.
I hope HTC improves it customer support, doesn’t make on-the-side-phones anymore, and develop their continuing support for their existing models.
And MOST of all not to make progress for the sake of progress or money.
Because in the end the money creates the product, but the consumer MAKES the product.
Note:
I just hope some people will find this report helpfull, and I hope it contributes to XDA's motto of finetuning the user experience, because that's what it's all about isn't it? Together we grow.
Take care guys!
Joey
O yeah i forgot to add, that I probably will try to make a review of every device I own. And in medio 2011 I believe, I will be posting things on youtube.
I think this review was very biased cos I have htc hd mini and I really don't like it. Sometimes, I feel that I made a mistake buying it. If you have a friend to buy one, I will sell mine for $100 less than the market price.
I wasn't trying to be biased really, If I didn't like it at all I would have said that out front.
And giving in the fact that I did expect more, it was more the fact that I wanted more options to do something with it than it being a crappy device.
Sorry can't help you there, with selling your phone.
Take care!
I basically agree.
I bought the mini because of its size and functionality of which i heard of from someone else ... not gonna do this kind of mistake anymore. When i bought it i was satisfied .... first month.
After this month full of euphory and for me new experience with hellabuggy HTC Sense, there was bitter awakening waiting for me. The system it uses (WM 6.5-ish) was announced to be droped right after i bought this device, but well, **** happens and there gonna be new system and new ROM i told myself. Oh dear i was wrong .... the device is obviously too slow to run the new OS.
Another cold shower came with the HVGA resolution. It took me a lot of effort to make apps iam used to working on this mini device, developed by some retard who thought HVGA on WiMo will rock. When i see the insane amount of apps for HVGA Android devices and the amount of apps for HVGA WinMo devices which i can count on fingers of one hand of a guy whos working in sawmill i understood theres something wrong with the mini.
The last drop was HTC failsupport (which i was used to to be honest) and the fact that if XDA wouldnt have existed, ill be totally lost ... hence the conclusion and advice for anyone who is even briefly playing with the idea of buying this phone ... DONT DO THAT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES!
As for me, ill sell this "great phone" on e-bay and buy myself iPhone, which actually have support and gazzilion apps for lol prices in appstore. This way iam done with anything from HTC ... i had Touch Diamond and Trinity and i still have mini and EVO .. all i can say is HTC always lacked good support and this is not gonna change in the future anytime soon.
Well, ShammanCZ, I knew that before I bought my Mini. I knew about the HVGA and Windows Phone 7. But however I bought it. Because (with looking to the minimum specs of WP7) I concluded that a WP7-device with this dimensions won't ever come.
Second was the price, a WP7 device would be much more expensive (too because of the minimum specs).
And last but not least, I have had an iPod touch (which is actually the same as iPhone), and I didn't like it at all. Apple just limits you too much. I like the freedom you have with a WinMo device, and 'till now, I'm very satisfied of it!
Okay, HTC Support is very bad, but we can't help it. Thanks to XDA, where you can find lots of good devs and tweaks, this isn't a big deal to me.
in my opinion the biggest minus of hd mini is it's screen resolution (you can improve or eliminate the others minuses exept for the resolution ,and here i mean the fact that you can hardly find apps that fit this res) .
For me (and for the other buyers i guess) the plussez are:
-nice handy shape that fits well in every hand and every pocket
-light weight ,you dont get the heavy pocket sensation
-it has dedicated hardware phone button (answering,hanging) ,this was a thing i wanned when i was looking to buy a phone
-the signal is very good even in low signal area and better than other phones (i had an iphone 3g and the signal was much whorst than on mini)
-gps antenna is accurate and faster in finding the sattelites whithout network help,compared to other devices
-resistant case (i have it from more than 6 month now and it looks new even if i'm whering it in the pocket without protection shield except for the screen offcourse ,here i've mounted a shield)
-in conversation sound is loud and clear
THere would be some others but these are the first that came to my mind
Thank you all for your response to this all.
I agree with almost everything.
I found it interesting that there are so much differences in user experience .
As to this day I am counting off for the iphone 4.
Closed off as ios may be. It offers a more consumer friendly enviroment to my opinion. Than the stand alone feeling I get from HTC.
I had HTC universal and Raphael before , I bought HD mini just because of that dimension and that's perfect style.
but it's mean a toy for me after that two devices !
I cannot compare this one with that two ! but I think HD Mini is not such a bad thing that everyone says !
the worse thing of this device is HVGA resolution and you can find applications so hard for that resolution.
if it was VGA ! maybe we loved it ! but now.....
I agree HVGA has not been the top of game for me.
But then again.. battery life is great on my mini..
calls also.. and it remains a phone so that counts as well
Hi All.
I Think every one made a mistake by looking exterior sleek design. Even me, I bought this HD mini but not happy with this.
In the market thousands of free applications available but this phone doest support.
Even, I cannot install TCPMP player and lot of java based applications...
I dont know what to do. May be I will go for android phone.
shasman said:
Even, I cannot install TCPMP player and lot of java based applications...
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It's not a HTC HD mini fault if you're not able to: it's only yours!!
Hmmz sleek design...
shasman said:
Hi All.
I Think every one made a mistake by looking exterior sleek design. Even me, I bought this HD mini but not happy with this.
In the market thousands of free applications available but this phone doest support.
Even, I cannot install TCPMP player and lot of java based applications...
I dont know what to do. May be I will go for android phone.
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I think he has a point... And I am wondering myself, how much this has played a part in me purchasing HTC HD Mini.
I think it did play a part. Because I think it's a great design. Perhaps Shasman is right and some people perhaps, did thought only of the sleek design and did not pay more attention to the specifics.
I myself loved the design, but knew about resolution. I just expected it to pick up. When there is a new Iphone... new games come out for that iphone.
And so I thought , would it have gone for HVGA.
So that's the big bummer for me.
After I could compare the Ipad2, 10.1 and Transformer for days now, I decided to go and buy an Ipad2. Yes, I turned my back on Android and here's why:
10.1:
Very nice lookings, high quality and hardware but there is a big problem: the colors. On some pictures the saturation is so high that it kills lots of details every time 2 similar colors are nearby. Here you can see what I mean, check the right circle where orange and red meets - if the orange circle would be more reddish, you could hardly tell there are 2 rings: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1bkovoLXw4&feature=player_detailpage#t=208s
If you compare it to a perfect calibrated monitor, it looks like crap. Flashy, colorful and nice but details are gone. That's the one and only weaknes from what it offers. It's 16:9 display is a winner when it comes to videos but video playback is poor. Ipad2 is much better, even for flash, later more to come about it.
Another MAJOR problem is Samsung support. Android is a fresh system and needs tons of support. Samsung provides NONE. For EU, they still have no release dates or closer info about their device - just lol. For me, the 10.1 is just a step in the process to upgrade to Tegra3. They built the shell now and can use it for the next device to compete with Apple. Same like they did to the 10.1v - no support, they just forgot about it.
Transformer:
Diplay is pretty good but the build quality is crap. After I saw the Archos tablets with the bronze frame, I knew where Asus bought their stuff. Both have those sharp metal frames which are wrapped around the screen. TF and Archos have gaps between the frame and glas, with some kind of rubber to fill it. Asus tried to even out the sharp edges but you can see how cheap it is. Archos tablets can cut in your finger if you swipe around the edges ! For me: complete garbage quality, should cost 250$ max to satisfy the minimalist who just want's to read or something.
Ipad2:
This device is pretty awesome. First I thought the 4:3 diplay sucks for reading but after I measured books and calculated ratios, they were ALL closer to Ipad2 standards. That menas you will have less wasted space on Ipad. When surfing internet you will learn to love 4:3, everything fits perfectly while you feel how broken sites are on 16:9. The drawback are 16:9 movies without a border and the good about it, you have FULLSCREEN ! in emulators without scaling. There are also a lot of older movies/series with 4:3, which I prefer on travel anyway.
It is fluent everywhere and feels like my Galaxy S after getting the lagfix. Stock 3.1 is bull**** compared to it. The only point where it is superior, are widgets.
Root/Jailbreak/Flash:
Jailbreaking an Ipad is a piece of cake, visit a website, click on a button, your done. No bull**** to flash around or to risk your device. After that you have Cydia which is an alternative market. You can also add repos to it, so you gain access to apps of all kind, also the not so legal ones.
You can play Flash Videos on Ipad using Iswifter or other apps. Inconvinient sometimes but to my surprise, they are fluent on the Ipad - Androids are sluggish. The Ipad even played a movie fluent with 10 other flash animations around it !
The crappy part about the Ipad is itunes and the structure how app files are arranged. Every app has it's own folder, so if you use FTP or something to transfer via network, you have to put those files IN the app folder, so they can find it. Not a big deal, if the app folder wouln't be named like 429403290239203023948393. Android is way better, copy somewhere on SD and browse it. Sure you can use itunes to put everything together but Itunes won't work with Jailbroken apps from Cydia. This breaks the use of my NAS server at home, leaving me with ****ty USB-to-PC solutions if I want it the easy way. Music and Videos which are supported by NAS can be played over UPNP but I found more nice apps for that on Android as I could on Ipad.
Conclusion:
10.1 is a nice device but it's like to own a ferrari and only have crappy roads to drive on. Android kills the Tab, sadly. It's good for smartphones but not for tabs - it's worse as an alpha build of windows. Every manufactuerer does what he wants, there are no standards. Compatibility between Android versions are a joke - imagine you upgrade from win7 to win8 and everything stops working - arrrrrrrgh.
This may be fixed with 4.0 but it will take another 1-2 years for the software. Until then, there will be Win8, which could break Androids neck (if it's compatible to Win7 programms!). Also I can sell the Ipad2 for 200-300 bucks, even if Ipad3 is released, so screw it, will lose ~150-200€ to it. But it will buy me at least 6 months of fun.
The best is, I don't have to care about the future. There is no "will it work after OS upgrade" problem with Apple.
Wow there are so many problems with this post I don't even know where to begin. I think I will just address your last line:
The best is, I don't have to care about the future. There is no "will it work after OS upgrade" problem with Apple.
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Try telling that to the iPhone 3G users who upgraded to ios4 and had a device that was next to worthless. Apple pushed that update out to ose iPhones knowing it would turn it into a piece of **** 100% of the time.
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Root/Jailbreak/Flash:
Jailbreaking an Ipad is a piece of cake, visit a website, click on a button, your done. No bull**** to flash around or to risk your device. After that you have Cydia which is an alternative market. You can also add repos to it, so you gain access to apps of all kind, also the not so legal ones.
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Having met way more people with iPodTouch4/IP4/IPad1&2 that do this than those who DO NOT do this, it makes me wonder if the ideology of app devs to take preference to iOS for financial considerations is not completely flawed.
....what is the point of this post?
your inability to play with android OS and tweak it is not an excuse for you to say that android is flawed..with that said, i agree some stuff need to be fix, but its minor stuff such as typing on the browser...and...well thats it for me.
if you want something that work out of the box, agreed pick ipad 2, but if your geeky or you like linux pick android, more custimization then IOS can ever dream of.
THE firmwares with ripped features for different devices, as they become incompatible with every next release the iphone 3g and now 3gs with ios5. Don't tell me jailbreak is easy, it took the developers 3 months to make a jailbreak for ipad 2 which is still raw with compatibility issues! If buying the idevice is an excuse for free apps...probably games in your case with a new handheld gaming device than off board ye pirate! People jailbreak the device for customisation which is the soul of android os (which is not fresh but time tested and evolving i need not wait a whole year for new features to sprout, mostly inspired and already popular in other os!).
Ever heard of DFU mode, recovery mode? Similar terms and combos are used here! Atleast in android thanks to diversity if one model ain't suitable there is a myriad to choose from! Compare two devices of same platform when making a point.
I agree with G1 and the person above but since you decided to share...let me take a turn.
Why you felt the need to justify your iPad 2 choice in an Android related forum is beyond me.
You either realize or fail to see that Apple purposefully limits their tech. Minimal upgrades between generations. Even the newest iPhone won't support 4G from what I have heard yet they want to use LTE patents against Google?
Your train of thought that the iPad 2 is perfect is already starting to form.
The iPad's dimensions do not in any way make it better for video, reading, and web surfing. I was just having a debate with a friend who started complaining about where the dock port was on my Galaxy Tab 10.1. He was quickly shut up when I pointed out that cell phones have the port at the bottom so our hands can grip the sides. However a tablet is meant to be held in LANDSCAPE...that's why sticking the port in a different place was a smart decision.
Point being...he turned into another person claiming everything is horrible with Android. Guess what? He never owned an Android device. He actually has a Touch Pro 2 right now. IGNORANCE!
Look I've had an iPad. I know that jailbreaking it is POINTLESS. Your battery dies out super fast, the app selection is fairly weak, and all of that jailbreaking does nothing but try to replicate an Android experience. But it fails.
Unlike you, I do care about the future. I don't want to live in a world where everybody has the same glossy tablet with a slippery back so you can drop the darn thing. I don't want to be told what I can and cannot do on my tablet. I do not want to support any company intent on holding back technological progress for the sake of money or who buys patents just to sue other companies out performing them.
You have EVERY right to buy an iPad 2 but just know that your choices and who you choose to support speaks volumes. I have friends just like you. One day they're talking about freedom and openness. The next day they're justifying EVERYTHING Apple does. Cool. As long as I have a choice too.
As for your claims about Windows 8, it only serves to buttress how you allowed us yourself to come to your decision.
"Ignorance is bliss." That should be Apple's new tagline.
I love the OP and how he compares the worst of Android tablets to the best of iPad2 lol
4:3 is perfect for reading books with less wasted screen space. Yay! Now try reading comics and watching WS movies You prefer 4:3 movies? Good for you
Jailbreaking is easy for the iPad2 NOW! But do you know how long it took for the jailbreak to come out? That's right, they've been working on it since the iPad2 was released in March. Four months for a jailbreak to give you the 3rd party features equivalent of... Android. Who knows how long it will be the next time a new iPad/iDevice comes out. Compares that to the usual quick turn-around of rooting an Android device.
I'm happy that you're happy with your iPad 2. It's a nice device. But it sounds like you're just an iOS fan who tried Android and didn't like it.
I'm so glad you guys posted such thorough responses, so now I don't have to. I particularly like the point about why an Apple Fanboy felt the need to post his decision in an Android forum was beyond sensible.
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I agree with G1 and the person above but since you decided to share...let me take a turn.
Why you felt the need to justify your iPad 2 choice in an Android related forum is beyond me.
You either realize or fail to see that Apple purposefully limits their tech. Minimal upgrades between generations. Even the newest iPhone won't support 4G from what I have heard yet they want to use LTE patents against Google?
Your train of thought that the iPad 2 is perfect is already starting to form.
The iPad's dimensions do not in any way make it better for video, reading, and web surfing. I was just having a debate with a friend who started complaining about where the dock port was on my Galaxy Tab 10.1. He was quickly shut up when I pointed out that cell phones have the port at the bottom so our hands can grip the sides. However a tablet is meant to be held in LANDSCAPE...that's why sticking the port in a different place was a smart decision.
Point being...he turned into another person claiming everything is horrible with Android. Guess what? He never owned an Android device. He actually has a Touch Pro 2 right now. IGNORANCE!
Look I've had an iPad. I know that jailbreaking it is POINTLESS. Your battery dies out super fast, the app selection is fairly weak, and all of that jailbreaking does nothing but try to replicate an Android experience. But it fails.
Unlike you, I do care about the future. I don't want to live in a world where everybody has the same glossy tablet with a slippery back so you can drop the darn thing. I don't want to be told what I can and cannot do on my tablet. I do not want to support any company intent on holding back technological progress for the sake of money or who buys patents just to sue other companies out performing them.
You have EVERY right to buy an iPad 2 but just know that your choices and who you choose to support speaks volumes. I have friends just like you. One day they're talking about freedom and openness. The next day they're justifying EVERYTHING Apple does. Cool. As long as I have a choice too.
As for your claims about Windows 8, it only serves to buttress how you allowed us yourself to come to your decision.
"Ignorance is bliss." That should be Apple's new tagline.
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God, I really like this post. Spoke about everything I wanted to say.
I dont want to be told what I can or cannot do. I want to tweak, optimize and control every setting that I can. There are tons of problems with JB and everyone, even a non-apple user like me, knows it. And without JB youre just living in a matrix that Steve Jobs dictates.
I would really like to hear the OP thoughts on flash. My friend tried to buy something on the web and couldnt use her credit card on the iphone. in the end I bought it for her using-yes my samsung 10.1- and she wrote me a check. And Steve Jobs is saying people dont need/shouldnt use/ cannot use flash on their mobile device.
This kinda makes me think of how I am training my 2 year old son to use the potty.
hmmm
I just recently got a galaxy tab 10.1, after spending the last month using an ipad2, I need both tablets for an app i am building.
And I can tell you this much, anyone that has an iphone will love an ipad2. Anyone that uses an ipad2 will be very very very happy with it.
But trust me, use that device for a month, then switch to honeycomb..... and it will blow you away.
One think I can say about apple is so easy to use, than it becomes boring after a while.thats why I have the samsung galaxy tab.
evolishesh said:
One think I can say about apple is so easy to use, than it becomes boring after a while.thats why I have the samsung galaxy tab.
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Apple's draw over its competitors has been its simplicity for years - well before Android. Back in the day it was Microsoft. The sad truth is that reduced functionality in a shinier package is what most people want. Thankfully for those of us with a bit more intelligence, we have products like Android to keep us entertained.
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Apple's draw over its competitors has been its simplicity for years - well before Android. Back in the day it was Microsoft. The sad truth is that reduced functionality in a shinier package is what most people want. Thankfully for those of us with a bit more intelligence, we have products like Android to keep us entertained.
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You are right. I love android and its platform
Um, wow. Glad everyone else said already literally everything I could think of responding to the OP with.
And personally, I will never buy a Win8 tablet until I can wipe it and install Android, Ubuntu or MeeGo on it.
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hmmm
I just recently got a galaxy tab 10.1, after spending the last month using an ipad2, I need both tablets for an app i am building.
And I can tell you this much, anyone that has an iphone will love an ipad2. Anyone that uses an ipad2 will be very very very happy with it.
But trust me, use that device for a month, then switch to honeycomb..... and it will blow you away.
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For the non-ipad users, could you elaborate some points on that? I just want to know some actual comparisons aside from the well advertised facts, ex: flash.
All of these tablets have their quirks and flaws. Mostly with the software. I actually need to return my second 10.1 because it's been randomly turning off like my first. Must be due to heat.
In any case, I will wait for the next batch of tablets instead. Hopefully we start getting some stuff that's really spectacular. Like a processor that can handle the native resolution of HC and has more video codecs.
Colors are pretty drab on ipad and saturated on tab. Both screens need calibration.
Tabs screen is brighter and higher Res. Side by side with same pics regardless of source tab wins everytime. Anyone saying otherwise needs prescription checked.
There's a reason ipadhd is coming. Apple knows full well there display is now second rate.
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After I could compare the Ipad2, 10.1 and Transformer for days now, I decided to go and buy an Ipad2. Yes, I turned my back on Android and here's why:
10.1:
Very nice lookings, high quality and hardware but there is a big problem: the colors. On some pictures the saturation is so high that it kills lots of details every time 2 similar colors are nearby. Here you can see what I mean, check the right circle where orange and red meets - if the orange circle would be more reddish, you could hardly tell there are 2 rings: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1bkovoLXw4&feature=player_detailpage#t=208s
If you compare it to a perfect calibrated monitor, it looks like crap. Flashy, colorful and nice but details are gone. That's the one and only weaknes from what it offers. It's 16:9 display is a winner when it comes to videos but video playback is poor. Ipad2 is much better, even for flash, later more to come about it.
Another MAJOR problem is Samsung support. Android is a fresh system and needs tons of support. Samsung provides NONE. For EU, they still have no release dates or closer info about their device - just lol. For me, the 10.1 is just a step in the process to upgrade to Tegra3. They built the shell now and can use it for the next device to compete with Apple. Same like they did to the 10.1v - no support, they just forgot about it.
Transformer:
Diplay is pretty good but the build quality is crap. After I saw the Archos tablets with the bronze frame, I knew where Asus bought their stuff. Both have those sharp metal frames which are wrapped around the screen. TF and Archos have gaps between the frame and glas, with some kind of rubber to fill it. Asus tried to even out the sharp edges but you can see how cheap it is. Archos tablets can cut in your finger if you swipe around the edges ! For me: complete garbage quality, should cost 250$ max to satisfy the minimalist who just want's to read or something.
Ipad2:
This device is pretty awesome. First I thought the 4:3 diplay sucks for reading but after I measured books and calculated ratios, they were ALL closer to Ipad2 standards. That menas you will have less wasted space on Ipad. When surfing internet you will learn to love 4:3, everything fits perfectly while you feel how broken sites are on 16:9. The drawback are 16:9 movies without a border and the good about it, you have FULLSCREEN ! in emulators without scaling. There are also a lot of older movies/series with 4:3, which I prefer on travel anyway.
It is fluent everywhere and feels like my Galaxy S after getting the lagfix. Stock 3.1 is bull**** compared to it. The only point where it is superior, are widgets.
Root/Jailbreak/Flash:
Jailbreaking an Ipad is a piece of cake, visit a website, click on a button, your done. No bull**** to flash around or to risk your device. After that you have Cydia which is an alternative market. You can also add repos to it, so you gain access to apps of all kind, also the not so legal ones.
You can play Flash Videos on Ipad using Iswifter or other apps. Inconvinient sometimes but to my surprise, they are fluent on the Ipad - Androids are sluggish. The Ipad even played a movie fluent with 10 other flash animations around it !
The crappy part about the Ipad is itunes and the structure how app files are arranged. Every app has it's own folder, so if you use FTP or something to transfer via network, you have to put those files IN the app folder, so they can find it. Not a big deal, if the app folder wouln't be named like 429403290239203023948393. Android is way better, copy somewhere on SD and browse it. Sure you can use itunes to put everything together but Itunes won't work with Jailbroken apps from Cydia. This breaks the use of my NAS server at home, leaving me with ****ty USB-to-PC solutions if I want it the easy way. Music and Videos which are supported by NAS can be played over UPNP but I found more nice apps for that on Android as I could on Ipad.
Conclusion:
10.1 is a nice device but it's like to own a ferrari and only have crappy roads to drive on. Android kills the Tab, sadly. It's good for smartphones but not for tabs - it's worse as an alpha build of windows. Every manufactuerer does what he wants, there are no standards. Compatibility between Android versions are a joke - imagine you upgrade from win7 to win8 and everything stops working - arrrrrrrgh.
This may be fixed with 4.0 but it will take another 1-2 years for the software. Until then, there will be Win8, which could break Androids neck (if it's compatible to Win7 programms!). Also I can sell the Ipad2 for 200-300 bucks, even if Ipad3 is released, so screw it, will lose ~150-200€ to it. But it will buy me at least 6 months of fun.
The best is, I don't have to care about the future. There is no "will it work after OS upgrade" problem with Apple.
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I did the same thing,I had the transformer for week return it and waited for the galaxy tab,I love the galaxy tab but too much force closes and app crashing.I exchange tab for ipad2 and jailbreak it.
I am very happy with the ipad,but I miss honeycomb,hope ice-cream sandwich and all manufactures they stop using nvidia Tegra
The hardware is there, and Google is revving up for Ice Cream Sandwich right now, which will hopefully bring some much needed changes to current Android
Tablets.
Sent from my Fascinate with MIUI Gingerbread
The fact that you're here means you don't mind getting your hands dirty.
So you have one simple choice - have your device running as you want it by managing the device yourself, loading ROMs from XDA - or not and wait until Apple decide to fix something.
XDA is fantastic - here there's talented bunch of guys & gals mixing & matching the best features from roms of different vendors into something unique.
There is no comparison between Apple & Android.
A little off-topic guys.
Christmas is coming and telephone operators are throwing really very "nasty" offers. I have a choice to get Samsung Galaxy S2 or Nokia Lumia 800 for 0€. Inspite of really nice SG2 phone I'm so tempted to get to Microsoft camp and get a taste of Mango. Damn it's hard to decide.
The only big drawback of Nokia phone I find is missing option of usb mass storage. So dumb! What they were thinking off?
SG2 only drawback is that it's already getting old, and yeah, it's Android
Nokia Lumia 800
Samsung Galaxy S2
Your choice?
Keep the Hero
If I need to choose betwein those 2, the android one, but I would not pick either.
Thanks for your opinion. I would pick Galaxy Nexus, but unfortunately it is out of my budget.
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Thanks for your opinion. I would pick Galaxy Nexus, but unfortunately it is out of my budget.
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That is the one I want, not that any pocket in any pants I got is big enough for it. The hero hardly fits and no not really a handbag person... And yes I am tiny.. so I got tiny pants
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Just want to add something. How I think on getting new stuff. If I want something new. I want to make sure it is the thing that I want. And not a thing that is maybe cheaper but not the thing that I want. In this case that is an android phone that runs 2.3 I do not want that. I want to start with 4.0. But some say the GPS on the Nexus is crap. Not that I know of. but I will see what I will get in like 4 months or so. Happy with this device.
I would pick android. Think of what has made ur hero last this long. It is because you can tweak and customize it and upgrade to newer os versions even though it's old.
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LOL you shouldn't have to think about that really IMHO.. The lumia is plainly UGLY and windows phone is CRAP.. the sgs2 all the way. Android hands down mate, plus the sgs2 beats the lumia specs wise too. It's a win win situation.
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LOL you shouldn't have to think about that really IMHO.. The lumia is plainly UGLY and windows phone is CRAP.. the sgs2 all the way. Android hands down mate, plus the sgs2 beats the lumia specs wise too. It's a win win situation.
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dude the lumia is absolutely GORGEOUS! It's so pretty I am genuinely considering dealing with all the poor specs just to wrap my unworthy hands around it.
I just can't give a serieus answer, isn't it obvious which one to choose? SGS II is better in every way and believe me when windows phone 8.0 comes out you are going to be so sorry for choosing the lumia instead of the SGS II, in the future you can update the SGS II with and without a custom rom to android 4.0 and up. There aint much to think about just saying..
Lumia is a nice phone and Mango has sorted much of the issues with wp 7, though on long run (2 yrs) i'm considering if i'd be happy with it. kinda in the same spot looking what to get, but i'm between Sensation and incredible S (affordable) on the android front and Lumia and Titan on the wp7 front.
I would pick Samsung Galaxy S2 ... just because i don't like the interface of a Windows Phone . The OS is ugly as hell, I was in a store last week looking at some phones and I almost puked after 30 seconds of looking at Windows Phones but I recovered while looking at the Home Screen of my HTC Hero. Android's interface is great and by far the best... but that's my opinion and everyone likes different things.
Stick to Android alot more customizable
Even though m getting a sensation still wanna learn more abt Android, n my hero is probably the best testing ground
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The sgs2 is an awesome phone, but have you considered the new Sony erricson? The arc s.. it's in your budget and with a whopping 1.4ghz processor and impressive looks in comparison to the sgs2 you can't go wrong
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I would go for SGS2 as it is still among the best android phone available atm.
Plus, there is plenty of development interest going on for SGS2, with lot's of flashing around so you won't be bored for a long time.
It still has got the best available specs for hardwarewise.
It does not have the Arc's dreaded housing crack problem.
It does not have the HTC's Sensation and like models of dust under the screen as faced by some users.
The only thing you may miss is there's no Sense.
Or..if not
Just grab the one that has got the highest resale value.
Sell it off when it's new to finance your purchase of your dream phone (a Galaxy Nexus perhaps?).
Don't dismiss WP7 until you've tried it. I think windows phone has got a bad reputation from previous versions but after using WP7 on a HTC Mozart I think that it is incredible. It is so unique and I only know one other person who has one. For me, I think I'm going towards WP7
There is serious reason I want to quit Android camp.
The problem with android is that it is too open. There is a limit with providing good SDK and allowing to make apps based only on it or allowing to do whatever you want and making crapload of ****. Android programmer base is so dumb, they don't know anything about performance or battery optimization or background task handling. Android market is blunt loaded with web page scrappers, wrappers and xml parsers. To make a some mobile web page wrapper takes me 5 min and some don't even have any shame to ask money for that. Majority of Android app devs are just amateurs, weekend java programmers or ex web developers with no any clue what mobile platform is and that there is some limit in available RAM, processing power, storage and etc.
Android market maybe is a lot bigger than windows market, but when you look at quality then we come down to the same number or even worse.
Sorry for rant, but 2 years ago I put big fate in Android and Google which totally failed me by providing competitive mobile platform. Android, even with ICS 4.0 today is still 2 years behind iOS and now also WM7. They need 2 dual core most powerful CPUs in a world to accomplish the same task what WM7 can do with single core and half RAM and even then they fail.
Oh well .....
iOS vs Android vs Window Phone
This is a major problem these days. I was thinking to get a new phone these days to...so i spent a lot of time in reading about the new features the platforms have to offer and it seems that there are lot of tiny parts in every os that make every day use to be more exciting and easy.
I will start to make a comparison on every os on what is has or what's missing
1.Windows Phone
-it's snappy
-interesting interface
-facebook and tweeter integrated
-easy to use
-microsoft servers with 30 GB space to store media
-no OTA updates
-no usb storage (you need a program to do that)
-limited hardware (this is because microsoft made a decision on this part)
-multitasking is not in real time
-the number of app is limited (~35k)
-not open sourced...so if your phone gets old, it's harder to make some custom roms
2.Android
-snappy but sometimes laggy
-usb storage
-full customization of the screens
-real time multitasking
-since 4.0 we have a better browsing experience
-lot's of app
-easy to make a rom or flash one
-Google apps (Maps + navigation = damn i'm in love )
-the new gen of phones get big screens and that's very stupid (as lira said...it can't fit in the pocket and i fully agree)
-i hate the part when a new version of android appears and it takes months to get an updated phone
-in some roms we have to much apps from the developer (take htc for example)
-i think the system needs better and better hardware so you can get a better experience
3.iOs
-snappy
-the os with the biggets number of apps
-very easy to use
-every new version can be installed after it appears (if your phone can handle it)
-since we talk about iOs we talk about iphone and on thing that i like is that is has a 3.5 screen
-it has siri and it's fun and useful
-good browsing
-no usb storage...but i heard that you don't need iTunes if you need to transfer a document or things like that (not sure there)
-no customization on the screen, just icons of the programs that you have
-no OTA updates
-can't make a custom rom
@ every rom - maybe i missed some stuff
@whitealien -> not into nokia (WP7.5) since it has stupid limitation and to much social stuff (i don't use facebook or things like that)
-SGS II is a good phone, lot's of people use it and want it and since i know some friends that had an iPhone and now have a SGS II and are more pleased with it
-sometimes i think why buy a phone and not a tablet, that's better thank a phone from more points : starting from gaming and finishing with watching movies.
The choice is your...i'm tempted to get a new phone and change the platform to see new things but i realize that android gets new and new features every day.
I think that it's better to wait for the release of the SGS III and the new qualcomm S4 chips or tegra III on phones [but why need these chips when you can do your every day use with a dual core phone without any problems??]
@ all: - Why not a HTC phone?
Stefan
stefpaul said:
@ all: - Why not a HTC phone?
Stefan
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always a HTC phone if android,i've dropped my hero from the first floor of my house it was fine,it went tumbling down the stairs twice n still survived,it was thrown against a wall by a friend when we were drunk n it survived damn this thing has been hardcore,i manhandle my phone like **** n it survives xD my frnds galaxy s2 fell from his pocket while sitting on a chair and display got fked xD
Thanks Steff for your opinion.
-no OTA updates
-no usb storage (you need a program to do that)
-limited hardware (this is because microsoft made a decision on this part)
-multitasking is not in real time
-the number of app is limited (~35k)
-not open sourced...so if your phone gets old, it's harder to make some custom roms
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I will a little argue with this. No OTA updates - there is updates and Nokia is taking it very serious. They just rolled one out on 7 dec.
- limited HW, you mean a little outdated? Thats true, only single core and 512RAM, but seems to be enough
- multitasking is not in real time - not entirely true, it depends how apps are programmed. They can work in bg if they are programmed to
- the number of app is limited (~35k) - are you serious , I never had more than 50 apps installed
- my very 1st smartphone was HTC Touch Polaris with WM6.5 so I know what closed source is
I found 5 major flaws in Lumia 800
1. only 16Gb integrated storage
2. no usb mass storage
3. no front camera (really, these days?)
4. no notification LEDS, not even one single led, lol.
5. Pentile Amoled display
And yeah SG2 is not perfect too. Build quality is so poor. Back cover is cheap and fragile. Have seen broken ones. Also whole construction is fragile, including big screen. Don't ever put it in your jeans back pocket or you will regret
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Well, if they were not obsessed with huge phones, enormous screens, poor battery life, sad build style (all gray or black) and somehow over blunted Sense (comon, why there is weather animation everywhere, even in lockscreen) maybe I would go HTC. My 1st idea was to take HTC Radar, but at closer look I find it kinda too big for offered screen size (the bottom part is so long). White is cool so.
bharat_goku said:
always a HTC phone if android,i've dropped my hero from the first floor of my house it was fine,it went tumbling down the stairs twice n still survived,it was thrown against a wall by a friend when we were drunk n it survived damn this thing has been hardcore,i manhandle my phone like **** n it survives xD my frnds galaxy s2 fell from his pocket while sitting on a chair and display got fked xD
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Hmm htc for the reason that the android experience is more fun and not so common to most of the android phones:d, and it has some feature that make using android a special one
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Thanks Steff for your opinion.
I will a little argue with this. No OTA updates - there is updates and Nokia is taking it very serious. They just rolled one out on 7 dec.
- limited HW, you mean a little outdated? Thats true, only single core and 512RAM, but seems to be enough
- multitasking is not in real time - not entirely true, it depends how apps are programmed. They can work in bg if they are programmed to
- the number of app is limited (~35k) - are you serious , I never had more than 50 apps installed
- my very 1st smartphone was HTC Touch Polaris with WM6.5 so I know what closed source is
I found 5 major flaws in Lumia 800
1. only 16Gb integrated storage
2. no usb mass storage
3. no front camera (really, these days?)
4. no notification LEDS, not even one single led, lol.
5. Pentile Amoled display
And yeah SG2 is not perfect too. Build quality is so poor. Back cover is cheap and fragile. Have seen broken ones. Also whole construction is fragile, including big screen. Don't ever put it in your jeans back pocket or you will regret
Well, if they were not obsessed with huge phones, enormous screens, poor battery life, sad build style (all gray or black) and somehow over blunted Sense (comon, why there is weather animation everywhere, even in lockscreen) maybe I would go HTC. My 1st idea was to take HTC Radar, but at closer look I find it kinda too big for offered screen size (the bottom part is so long). White is cool so.
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will argue to you because on the apps: the most important apps in the market are missing if you look close the first apps will appear on iOS first and after that on android and last WP... but it seems that they are starting to get in the same time on android with iOS...
I was thinking on a a HTC radar too but it's not so speedy... and from the part that hardware is old, this isn't a problem, it's a thing made by microsoft and it seems that apps work very well:d
I have a big problem with phones these days...the app that don't make me use them: HTC HUB, HTC LIKES, FACEBOOK INTEGRATION and stupid app that most people don't use))
And there comes a part in life when you don't want a custom rum, just a rom that is fast and responsive...
So the big question is: if i change from android to iOS or WP7...will i be happy than i was with android?
Stefan
stefpaul said:
Hmm htc for the reason that the android experience is more fun and not so common to most of the android phones:d, and it has some feature that make using android a special one
will argue to you because on the apps: the most important apps in the market are missing if you look close the first apps will appear on iOS first and after that on android and last WP... but it seems that they are starting to get in the same time on android with iOS...
I was thinking on a a HTC radar too but it's not so speedy... and from the part that hardware is old, this isn't a problem, it's a thing made by microsoft and it seems that apps work very well:d
I have a big problem with phones these days...the app that don't make me use them: HTC HUB, HTC LIKES, FACEBOOK INTEGRATION and stupid app that most people don't use))
And there comes a part in life when you don't want a custom rum, just a rom that is fast and responsive...
So the big question is: if i change from android to iOS or WP7...will i be happy than i was with android?
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you will not be as happy if you leave android imho.
I'm surprised this is even a serious discussion.
Here are my personal reasons why I say that, after using ios and android devices full time professionally for a while and briefly dabbling in winphone7:
It's becoming increasingly accepted by unpartial reviewer and testers...
(except by:
those who have never used android for a useful length of time
or for those who are looking for very simple user experience without any interest in customization or for "power user" features
)
... that iOS is quite inferior to Android in many ways.
Apple notifications were almost useless until ios 5 and even now are only scratching the surface of what android notifications provide.
ios gives you app icons on your home screen. that's it. no widgets or spaces or custom layouts or sources of useful dynamic information (other htan completely USELESS counters on each icon showing outstanding notification events that have passed wihtout your knowledge because of how crappy iOS's notifications are).
ios gives you no customization other than crappy ordering control which is forgetful
I work wtih an ipad daily and it is a PAIN IN THE ASS - I have learned to hate iOS, specially for tablets or power users, but even for a phone os it is truly annoying and very limited.
windows phone is cool but also limiting, very very limiting, and has rather poor app support at the moment compared to either of the big ones.
there are several reasons why android has become the most popular mobile phone OS - and it isn't just because google gives it away for free.
It's also because Android is the only one that is fully customizable. windows phone is SORT of but not nearly as truly customizable as android.
IMHO the windows phone launcher fake app for android (in the market) is actually superior to the real windows phone device I was playing with because it supported android widgets. But if you want to try out windows phone 7, get that launcher - it truly does give you the winphone7 experience with all it's boring limitations.
the thing that's great about apple devices is the huge and still superior application/game support (if you spend the bucks or jailbreak it then install installous and cydia).
I used to say that iOS was better for little kids. but my little kids (2 and 5 at the time) used android tablets without ANY trouble at all. my little kids (now 3 and 6) use an iPAD without many issues either but do get confused when holding a finger too long on an icon and then out of hte blue they all start wiggling and next thing I know apps are being deleted by little fingers. Android turns out to be far more intuitive in this regard compared to iOS. sometimes dumbing down the OS can be taken to the point of making it more complex to understand. It's an either or situation here, but typically in other ways I do think iOS is easier for very very simplistic minds to accept. This should not be a benefit for anyone here however LoL.
the thing that makes android superior for adults is it's ability to be completely and easily customized for everyone who uses it. it's YOUR phone, use it how you like. don't let apple tell you that you can't sync on this computer wtih this itunes on this day in this weather - I swear to god it is nearly that flaky and limiting to use iOS devices. you have music on your phone and want to copy it to your friend's phone? nope. you want your frien'ds music? nope. not unless you're lugging your laptop around so you can copy the files to/from your itunes folder, NOT directly to/from the device.
also android has a free terminal emulator app in the market. it works perfectly and runs bash as well as my desktop. iOS runs somehting similar but makes it incredibly hard to get that sort of control, even after jailbreaking and installing tons of underground apps it is still a kludgy and unreliable bash prompt control system you get in ios which requires a separate terminal emulator to control it (even a term app on your same device will get you there, but that alone is pretty annoying to have to deal with since you first have to actually get your low level underlying linux type system working on the iOS device....)
maybe some of my iOS negative points are improved in ios 5 but it is still light years behind the flexibility that we are all imho owed by buying the device and buying a license to use the operating system in the first place. I OWN my files. I can put them on my phone or my friend's phone if I choose to.
I buy a mac or a windows computer and I can get at all parts of the OS and mess around with it completely. why can't I do that on an iPAD that costs 2 to 3 times as much as a similar android tablet which is a full linux-based computer right from the get go?
I have a lot of inside info and have watched the devices and OSes grow and change over the years. Historically, in many ways, the best os for smart phones was palm webOS. but the hardware/company were slow/moronic respectively (which is why my brother quit as VP of Engineering of PalmSource... check this link for an interview with him back when things were still early and exciting at palm's mobile operating system dev company: http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/...w-Michael-Kelley-and-John-Cook-of-PalmSource/ )
Anyway - android is quite literally the only way to go for a mobile OS at this time if you dont' want to be tied down to a specific vendor/company of hardware and don't want to be given one user interface with one way to operate the phone.
Ever noticed now winphone7 uses only about 60% of your display for it's main UI? annoying, at best.
yes, they're quick, iOS and winmo7 devices. and yes every brand has good hardware (and bad in some cases). however htc android devices do reign supreme in popularity and market share for a good reason (as outlined above by me and others). but even stock android devices are way cool.
having worked with android tables/phones and ios tablets/phones I have decided very definitely that I will never buy an ios device. having worked with winphone7 for a short time I found it quite acceptable, like iOS. but extremely uninspiring and it's customizability is even worse than iOS's.
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Hey guys,
I bought my GNote in Feb 2012 but I would have gotten a iPhone 4s if I didn't already own an iPod but I was really upset over the OS (not the phone or specs) missing so much iOS features which I'm used to on my iPod. I switched to PA and though that rom is so much more better than GB, it still lacks some stuff. I still depend heavily on my iPod a lot. Recently my iPod after alot of abuse is giving way and the bottom part of the screen doesn't respond to touch, though useable I can't use it much and its now become a YouTube and music player only.
I will be getting the next Gen iPhone when its out (hopefully sooner than later). I'm not complaining at all or hating android, its unique but it isn't meant for me (and I'm far to dependent on iOS). I don't want to get another iPod because I'm sick of the switching between devices and my iPod can't do much without wifi (affecting my iMessage usage a lot) and I just want to keep all my major usage to one device and keep it simple.
I created this thread to ask what you guys do with your own Notes other than the obvious calling and texting and web browsing etc. I bought the Note on a 2 year contract and I don't want it collecting dust after getting the new iPhone. I still want use the device for the minor stuff or when my iPhone is charging or when I can't use it. I intend to use my note for when I'm home since my sim on my note will go to the new phone and it isn't much without connection to the net. So far I intent to use my note for reading books when I'm home/before bed, use for videos and note taking (obviously) and use Google music. What else do you guys do on your notes?
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How can you go smaller once you´ve had the Note?.. Why do you want iPhone so bad? What kinda features are missing on the Note?.. What you can do on the iPhone, you can do on the Note BUT what you can do on the Note, you can not do it on the iPhone!..
What does the iPhone offer that the Galaxy Note doesn't, or do you merely want to be a sheep and follow the Apple fad? If you give us what you find the iPhone offers over the Note, chances are someone here will find a way of doing that just as good - if not better- on the Note.
Rivan_92 said:
How can you go smaller once you´ve had the Note?.. Why do you want iPhone so bad? What kinda features are missing on the Note?.. What you can do on the iPhone, you can do on the Note BUT what you can do on the Note, you can not do it on the iPhone!..
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Well said... when my friends look at my note and say "Your phone is too big..." I usually reply with "I think your phone is too small", I open the browsers of both phones, open a website like f1-live or nba.com place them side by side and smirk. (And this is not directed at the iPhone in particular, half of them are on other Samsung models and HTCs.
We also work a lot with PDF apps to highlight and make notes on pdfs... guess who doesn't have to bring an extra stylus in his pocket or an ipad or another tablet.
Honestly, the GNote killed other phone models for me...
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How can you go smaller once you´ve had the Note?.. Why do you want iPhone so bad? What kinda features are missing on the Note?.. What you can do on the iPhone, you can do on the Note BUT what you can do on the Note, you can not do it on the iPhone!..
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Brad387 said:
What does the iPhone offer that the Galaxy Note doesn't, or do you merely want to be a sheep and follow the Apple fad? If you give us what you find the iPhone offers over the Note, chances are someone here will find a way of doing that just as good - if not better- on the Note.
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well I know that but I sorta don't have an issue with it as I said I do use an iPod and note together so I sorta got used to going big then small but anyways the iPhone is rumoured to have a big screen at least 4 so hopefully its true. And fortunately no I'm not a sheep following apple, I have used both kinds of devices extensively and I'm not surprised you guys questioning about apple OS, sorta expected and the same thing will happen on apple forums with them questioning android but to be more specific about what I get from iOS that android doesn't offer:
iCloud integration (contacts calendars being in sync) which I value so much
Photo stream
iCloud backup so no need to plug to PC to backup
iTunes and app store that is available where I live unlike play store where I can't buy anything but games apps and not all of the are available to my phone specific.
Pages app that keeps sync with my iPad using iCloud so I can switch between devices when doing work
And the cool new thing with just having to pull down the notification centre to update Fb status
All around dictionary built on so I just have to high light a word and tap define for meaning and not copy then paste on google
And reader feature on safari which is AMAZING
Good ol' iMessage
I can go on the the list just gets longer and before you guys quote me and start saying, this apps replaces this feature and adding this method in replaces that thing or that's stupid and useless and not needed, I am used to the iOS system and the convenience of it. I know android also has its perks and due to the open source there is several rooms that you can pick from giving you different experiences with your phone.
Let's not argue on apple sucks and android rules or what not and get back to topic. I for one will be playing certain games OK my note instead because of the big screen like gta and Batman. So what other uses are there for the note?
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Sounds to me like you are very comfortable with IOS and I don't see a problem with that. You've been open minded about trying Android and it doesn't work for you. Such is life.
Rather than try to find uses for your GNote, why not sell it. (Preferably before the release of the GNote II).
Wotsup is right.
Good on you for trying out Android.
Sometimes i think to myself, how can anyone use iOS? It has less functionality, and there are so many restrictions. Everything looks the same, the home screen is so ugly.
Although I'm not a huge fan of Apple, they excel in user friendliness. Everything is like spoonfed. Some people like to customise their device and root it and do whatever the hell they want with it.
Others would rather get their device straight out of the box and just have everything work. Apple does a brilliant job in getting all their iDevices to just work. Seamlessly.
That's why even on the bus I see old people (like really old people) all with iPads and iPhones. But I really can't imagine the same people running custom Android roms or what not. XD
Anyways, the different devices will appeal to different people.
Good on you for giving Android a shot.
The All Around Dictionary would be great. Yes as you mentioned there are alternatives of all that you mentioned but not pre-configured if that is how iOS is deployed.
I agree with last 2 posters. I own a mac and love it. Ive owned tablets from both camps and the ipad wins hoands down.
But when it comes to phones im android all the way. Thats because i brougt into tue ecosystem supporting it.
Just like the op has and fair play you gave it ago. Im the first at work to bash apple users with compare the note test putting them to shame. But while we bash they have the upperhand their apps and tgat must be hard to break from.
One colleague just layered a multitrack song using midi in mics and a small bit of software all run on the iphone 4s. To say i couldnt win that one would be an understatement lol
So if you prefer ios then as mentioned sell your note now while its worth more.
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well I know that but I sorta don't have an issue with it as I said I do use an iPod and note together so I sorta got used to going big then small but anyways the iPhone is rumoured to have a big screen at least 4 so hopefully its true. And fortunately no I'm not a sheep following apple, I have used both kinds of devices extensively and I'm not surprised you guys questioning about apple OS, sorta expected and the same thing will happen on apple forums with them questioning android but to be more specific about what I get from iOS that android doesn't offer:
iCloud integration (contacts calendars being in sync) which I value so much
Photo stream
iCloud backup so no need to plug to PC to backup
iTunes and app store that is available where I live unlike play store where I can't buy anything but games apps and not all of the are available to my phone specific.
Pages app that keeps sync with my iPad using iCloud so I can switch between devices when doing work
And the cool new thing with just having to pull down the notification centre to update Fb status
All around dictionary built on so I just have to high light a word and tap define for meaning and not copy then paste on google
And reader feature on safari which is AMAZING
Good ol' iMessage
I can go on the the list just gets longer and before you guys quote me and start saying, this apps replaces this feature and adding this method in replaces that thing or that's stupid and useless and not needed, I am used to the iOS system and the convenience of it. I know android also has its perks and due to the open source there is several rooms that you can pick from giving you different experiences with your phone.
Let's not argue on apple sucks and android rules or what not and get back to topic. I for one will be playing certain games OK my note instead because of the big screen like gta and Batman. So what other uses are there for the note?
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either you are a troll or you don't have a damn idea of what android is... In fact I doubt you have a note... you can do everything you are saying here and more with any android device...
4 inch screen on new iphone? not enough my note is 5.3 and waiting for the 5.5 on note 2, itrash its just plain boring and limitated os(for limitated no used to technology like my grandma) people... I own a galaxy Nexus 4.67 inches and I can't watch its screen.. nor hold it in my hand.. to damn small so this thing about switching between iPod and note its bs.. By listing all these features not only shows that you don't own an android but that you are just an isheep trolling here
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Actually I remember reading that the iPhone 5 would have 3.999" screen..So its not "at least 4" big".. Something to do with the aspect ratio..
i prefer Android os :laugh:
4" how gay
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Haha how did I know it would deteriorate into name calling? Oh right. Android loons can't take criticism. And definitely can't stomach any sort of fruit. You know jelly beans and ice cream sandwiches are nice treats, but not entirely healthy if eaten beyond moderation. Not good for scurvy either.
@OP. Sell the Note. It can fetch a decent price. Go buy an iPad2. You can get a refurb one straight from apple for only $319. I have a refurb one. Or if you really want the higher resolution "new" iPad, you can use the money plus a bit more to get it. The resolution gain wasn't worth it for me. They are identical otherwise. You are treating your note like a tablet anyway, leaving it at home and using it around the house, so might as well buy a real one. Don't get an Android tablet. If you already own a tablet, send your note to me.
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either you are a troll or you don't have a damn idea of what android is... In fact I doubt you have a note... you can do everything you are saying here and more with any android device...
4 inch screen on new iphone? not enough my note is 5.3 and waiting for the 5.5 on note 2, itrash its just plain boring and limitated os(for limitated no used to technology like my grandma) people... I own a galaxy Nexus 4.67 inches and I can't watch its screen.. nor hold it in my hand.. to damn small so this thing about switching between iPod and note its bs.. By listing all these features not only shows that you don't own an android but that you are just an isheep trolling here
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4" how gay
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Thank you guys for the reply especially msedek for that extremely pointless and useless comment that was so unconstructive. Pretty sure you are the troll here, unlike you I do own both an iPod and GNote and since like you said in your words 'you can do everything you are saying here and more with any android device...' how about you list the ways I can get what ever I like on iOS onto android. Pretty sure your not gonna reply so I'll just say it.... T R O L L . . .
Also thanks to THUDUK for the gay remark, you have fulfilled you part in the XDA forums, go celebrate!
As for the rest of guys, thanks for the replies (I really mean it and not sacarstic unlike to the other 2 morons I quoted). The think is I don't wanna sell my note because I still want to part own an Android but just use it as my main device. I also am still making payments for it, I bought it on a 2 year contract so don't wanna sell it while still paying for a device I can't use if I sold. I don't intend to use it as a tablet as I do own a iPad already, but since I got no intentions at all to sell my note I want to make use of it even after the phone switch.
At this point I don't know what size screen the next iPhone has but what ever size it is I will still be getting one because my iPod is close to fried, yesterday lock button stop working. So I literally need an iOS device (cas its my drug) and instead of just spending money on next gen iPod which becomes almost useless without wifi I want to get the iPhone just to keep it all in one. I actually was thinking and the note is pretty slim actually so I do intend to put a few TV shows and movies and take it with me for long journeys or trips and its big screen and 8 megapixels can come in great use to take pictures unless the next Gen iPhone has a 12 megapix then proabaly use that to take pics but anyways the device is pretty slim and not that much heavy for me to use it as a video player on the go. So I save battery on my phone watching videos on the note and I can do texts and calls without having to pause the video etc.
I still want to use my note as much as I can even after I get the iPhone. Also I really respect the most of you here who replied for actually understanding the point of this thread and not be like 'some other people and make plain stupid and meaningless remarks'... and gay comments also. So I'm final thing is very unlikely to sell my note as I'm still making payments for it and also I can use it as a backup if I lose my iPhone or send it for fixing or simply run out of battery. Once again I thank you guys for the replies and keep them coming, I have tried extensively both iOS and ics and prefer iOS more but doesn't mean android isn't good, it just isn't for me.
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Actually I remember reading that the iPhone 5 would have 3.999" screen..So its not "at least 4" big".. Something to do with the aspect ratio..
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Really difficult to say what size as there are also rumors that apple is testing the new device in a shell very similar to iPhone 4 design as they are aware there will be leaks and people online are saying the new iPhone will have a completely new design and not the slightly longer iPhone 4 shells we see in leaks. But once again those are just rumors, we got to wait and see. Though I feel like the iPad mini might happen to compete with android 7 inch tablets but the iPad mini are targeted for a different audience I think, we just got to wait and see.
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Sounds to me like you are very comfortable with IOS and I don't see a problem with that. You've been open minded about trying Android and it doesn't work for you. Such is life.
Rather than try to find uses for your GNote, why not sell it. (Preferably before the release of the GNote II).
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+1 to all this
It isnt a crime to like iOS, it is a crime to use iOS just because everyone else is using it
fabu09 said:
Thank you guys for the reply especially msedek for that extremely pointless and useless comment that was so unconstructive. Pretty sure you are the troll here, unlike you I do own both an iPod and GNote and since like you said in your words 'you can do everything you are saying here and more with any android device...' how about you list the ways I can get what ever I like on iOS onto android. Pretty sure your not gonna reply so I'll just say it.... T R O L L . . .
Also thanks to THUDUK for the gay remark, you have fulfilled you part in the XDA forums, go celebrate!
As for the rest of guys, thanks for the replies (I really mean it and not sacarstic unlike to the other 2 morons I quoted). The think is I don't wanna sell my note because I still want to part own an Android but just use it as my main device. I also am still making payments for it, I bought it on a 2 year contract so don't wanna sell it while still paying for a device I can't use if I sold. I don't intend to use it as a tablet as I do own a iPad already, but since I got no intentions at all to sell my note I want to make use of it even after the phone switch.
At this point I don't know what size screen the next iPhone has but what ever size it is I will still be getting one because my iPod is close to fried, yesterday lock button stop working. So I literally need an iOS device (cas its my drug) and instead of just spending money on next gen iPod which becomes almost useless without wifi I want to get the iPhone just to keep it all in one. I actually was thinking and the note is pretty slim actually so I do intend to put a few TV shows and movies and take it with me for long journeys or trips and its big screen and 8 megapixels can come in great use to take pictures unless the next Gen iPhone has a 12 megapix then proabaly use that to take pics but anyways the device is pretty slim and not that much heavy for me to use it as a video player on the go. So I save battery on my phone watching videos on the note and I can do texts and calls without having to pause the video etc.
I still want to use my note as much as I can even after I get the iPhone. Also I really respect the most of you here who replied for actually understanding the point of this thread and not be like 'some other people and make plain stupid and meaningless remarks'... and gay comments also. So I'm final thing is very unlikely to sell my note as I'm still making payments for it and also I can use it as a backup if I lose my iPhone or send it for fixing or simply run out of battery. Once again I thank you guys for the replies and keep them coming, I have tried extensively both iOS and ics and prefer iOS more but doesn't mean android isn't good, it just isn't for me.
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Well Said.
I hate apple, but i have to agree that for some people it fit's better.
I can hate apple, but first i must respect others and their opinions. Get your new iphone,and be happy with both. As others said, Gnote still has a good selling value, that will drop once the Gnote2 comes out. But if you don't want to sell it, as a backup phone and media player is a good options. Iphone can be too small, but in the other hand ipad could be too big, so in that case, you will have your Gnote.
Also, with the codec's support on the note, and the size of the screen, it could be a nice media player, if phone network is not in use.
iCloud integration (contacts calendars being in sync) which I value so much-mac>address bok>preference>accounts>synchronize with google.....same for calendar
Photo streamdropbox autoupload camera photos option
iCloud backup so no need to plug to PC to backuptitanium backup>schedule backups>data backed up to sd cad or even sent to dropbox........so when u change roms.....u hav what u need
iTunes and app store that is available where I live unlike play store where I can't buy anything but games apps and not all of the are available to my phone specific. market enabler.....??? nd th books n songs donloaded frm itunes can b transferred to ur note
Pages app that keeps sync with my iPad using iCloud so I can switch between devices when doing workgoogle drive? dropbox? synced documents.......
And the cool new thing with just having to pull down the notification centre to update Fb statusreallly???? u wanna throw ur fone for this?? *A MOMENT OF SILENCE
All around dictionary built on so I just have to high light a word and tap define for meaning and not copy then paste on google REALLLY???? THR R SO MANY DICTIONARIES.....OUT THR
And reader feature on safari which is AMAZINGny browser can bookmark stuff for u my fav is XSCOPE it even had ad blocking
Good ol' iMessage :good::good::victory::laugh::silly:.......whats appp????? it is multi platform
I can go on the the list just gets longer and before you guys quote me and start saying, this apps replaces this feature and adding this method in replaces that thing or that's stupid and useless and not needed, I am used to the iOS system and the convenience of it. I know android also has its perks and due to the open source there is several rooms that you can pick from giving you different experiences with your phone.-yes i agree........3.5 inch screen is er...deal breaker:good::highfive:
Let's not argue on apple sucks and android rules or what not and get back to topic. I for one will be playing certain games OK my note instead because of the big screen like gta and Batman. So what other uses are there for the note?-here are other uses
1) longer battery
2) desktop eske browser experience
3) more than 4 words fit on th screen
4) wide screen gaming
5) black magic
6) teleportation
7) nuclear war
8) run faster than speed of light
9) revolve around th sun
10) okay i shall consider making another post for this ) :highfive:
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i dont mean to offfend u but u know galaxy note is my baby nd i love my baby :fingers-crossed::highfive:
chillteddy said:
iCloud integration (contacts calendars being in sync) which I value so much-mac>address bok>preference>accounts>synchronize with google.....same for calendar
Photo streamdropbox autoupload camera photos option
iCloud backup so no need to plug to PC to backuptitanium backup>schedule backups>data backed up to sd cad or even sent to dropbox........so when u change roms.....u hav what u need
iTunes and app store that is available where I live unlike play store where I can't buy anything but games apps and not all of the are available to my phone specific. market enabler.....??? nd th books n songs donloaded frm itunes can b transferred to ur note
Pages app that keeps sync with my iPad using iCloud so I can switch between devices when doing workgoogle drive? dropbox? synced documents.......
And the cool new thing with just having to pull down the notification centre to update Fb statusreallly???? u wanna throw ur fone for this?? *A MOMENT OF SILENCE
All around dictionary built on so I just have to high light a word and tap define for meaning and not copy then paste on google REALLLY???? THR R SO MANY DICTIONARIES.....OUT THR
And reader feature on safari which is AMAZINGny browser can bookmark stuff for u my fav is XSCOPE it even had ad blocking
Good ol' iMessage :good::good::victory::laugh::silly:.......whats appp????? it is multi platform
I can go on the the list just gets longer and before you guys quote me and start saying, this apps replaces this feature and adding this method in replaces that thing or that's stupid and useless and not needed, I am used to the iOS system and the convenience of it. I know android also has its perks and due to the open source there is several rooms that you can pick from giving you different experiences with your phone.-yes i agree........3.5 inch screen is er...deal breaker:good::highfive:
Let's not argue on apple sucks and android rules or what not and get back to topic. I for one will be playing certain games OK my note instead because of the big screen like gta and Batman. So what other uses are there for the note?-here are other uses
1) longer battery
2) desktop eske browser experience
3) more than 4 words fit on th screen
4) wide screen gaming
5) black magic
6) teleportation
7) nuclear war
8) run faster than speed of light
9) revolve around th sun
10) okay i shall consider making another post for this ) :highfive:
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i dont mean to offfend u but u know galaxy note is my baby nd i love my baby :fingers-crossed::highfive:
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Wow I really really appreciate you suggesting different alternates to iOS features on Android but they are all additional steps that may not be practical. First for the contacts and calendar syncing with Google on Mac, pretty sure you need to have your Mac switched on but either ways I don't have one (yet). As for the photo stream it isn't in the default photo app, you need to go to drop box to retrieve the pictures and once again you need the add on of drop box.
Titanium back up features don't work on trail version (I think) and again an add on app. Also I have tried market enabler, it does change the country for the play store, and only the playstore. Still don't get the TV shows and movies and books options. Also one thing o hate about android (no offense), don't know if its the OS or the apps but its probably the apps but anyways in music when there are 2 albums with the same names even though they are by different artist they share the same cover art and when I click on one of the similar titled album the tracks from the other similar titled albums are together. I have tries all the popular music apps so far and finally settled with Google music despite this issue because of the streaming service (which is really a game changer with androids). So to be less confusing I have 2 albums titled unbroken, one by Demi Lovato and another by Kathrine Mcphee and when I click on Demi's album both songs from Kathrine and Demi's album appear together and same goes when I click on Kat's unbroken album I see demi's track on the list too. Another example is Liberty X's and Kylie Minogue's X album. Oh also books form iTunes store don't work on android as they are Drm protected.
Google Drive isn't the same as Pages, the basic function are similar but they are not the same. Also Drive doesnt do PP and Excel. Same thing about them being in sync, add on app or it doesn't work. What's app isn't the same as iMessage as it doesn't allow sending HD videos and it doesn't work on multiple devices. For iMessage if I set it up on both my iPod and iPad when I get a message both devices get it and I can setup multiple emails as IDs for people to send texts and finally what's app doesn't work on Macs.
1 iPhones do have long battery lives depending on usage
2 Safari does have desktop browser experience and also Android doest have flash support anymore similar to iPhones.
3 more than 4 words do fit on the screen and a lot more depending on size and length of words and screen orientation.
4 willing to trade in wide screen gaming for a phone that gets the games way faster than android (couple months faster) and a phone that doesn't heat up so fast and make it super uncomfortable to continue playing and app store with wider variety of games.
5 don't practice it
6 love my car too much to teleport
7 not involved in it
8 hate running
9 earth does that for me
10 take your time!
Finally, dont worry I'm not offended but once again thank you for the post to suggest alternatives but its just mostly add on apps that don't work the same unlike iOS which just works!
The all around dictionary part, maybe you didn't get it but with iOS you just select a word and select define and it has the meaning so you don't need to leave the app and go to another dictionary app and tap paste than wait for the translation depending on your network speed. Thanks so far for the suggestion people keep them coming!
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