Here's how I bricked my phone, for the ones who're interested:
I think it's a pretty funny story, so keep reading if you're searching for some entertaining story.
So I Bought a flipout because I wanted a small phone. I was pretty satisfied by the phone and it's performance, althought it's kinda an effeminate phone. Anyways, before I knew it (When I booted up the phone for the first time) I was disgusted by Orange's laggy intro: it was supposed to be an explosion followed by an implosion which created the Orange logo (sort of XBOX style). The reality was less: a very laggy 2 or 3 fps intro. Bravo Orange if you were actually aiming for this rate.
When I boot up the phone it shows the menu just like any other phone, but it came with another disgusting fact: MotoBlur. Lag, lag and lag. There it was, in all it's glory:
- It's laggy (not as much as Orange's intro...)
- Uses default services (calendar, gallery) with some unfinished 3D features (that caused needless lag)
- "Happenings" which connects your twitter, facebook and other things.
Although I have to say, I did like the lil tab that shows above and tells you on which screen you were. It looks kinda like the following (excuse me my drawing skills):
.: : . |^| . : :.
resp. -3 -2 -1 0 +1 +2 +3
Anyways, I had to get rid of this "MotoBlur" and the first thing I had to do was to root my device. I remember the days with the G1 which were a hassle to just root your phone, so I was hesitating if I really wanted to go through all this again...
But after a lil search, I found that nowadays we have superoneclick, androot, z4root, etc... etc... So I tried one of these "new" apk's which gave me a small error, so then I tried z4root which was quite easy, fast and simple. I was in. Things were going my way, hell, I even found a brand-new-looking 4GB microSD on my work. Just out of nowhere there it was, very small, laying down on the ground waiting for me to get picked up.
What goes up, must go down...
So there I was with my first steps trying to remove MotoBlur, and although I knew there were tut's about how to remove Orange and Blur, I just couldnt wait. I made backups of my system apk's with Titanium which was quite easy, and it was that precise moment when I was like "GET!", i'm sick of this MotoBlur, let's remove these "things". They are right in front of me, just get rid of them... And while continuously hitting the "remove" button I was daydreaming of a simple usefull handy phone. Bam, bam, bam, I deleted one app after the other, even Google Talk didn't had a chance. Everything was going smooth, bye Blur.Calendar.apk, bye odex, bye Blur.gallery.apk, bye Blur.happenings.apk,... ... ... about 20 apk's later, I was quite satisfied.
But you know how it goes when you just delete stuff without greater knowledge. You BRICK your phone. But people, this was just the start. I had some force close after this one man operation, but my phone was smoother. I have to admit, things were comming unexpected. First I couldnt find my gallery (removed). Then I found out I couldnt download anymore from the Android Market because I deleted Blur.calendar.apk which is connected with Calendar.apk which syncs my G-Mail account which is needed before you can download anything from the Market. Hah! Owned.
Backups.
So there I was having these problems, but the phone still works great. I have to admit I silently thought: luckely I made a backup, and was kinda proud I wasn't one of those noobs who just goes forward without a save game, right? Right? Guys...? Anyone...? . ... ...Wrong! The reality was I couldn't even "restore" with Titanium. The backups weren't real backups, but just data-backups which were stored on my sdcard in .tar format. Aaarrgh!
No problem, no problem. There has to be a way to fix this, someone did this stupidity before me. Obviously. Ofcourse. No?
When I was searching about why I couldn't fix my Titanium backups, someone answered to someone else that's because he couldn't sideload the apps. He needs to root his phone in a way so sideloading is enabled. Great! Sideloading it will be then.
Sideloading is def a great way to install .apk's without the market, because I tried a factory reset (hoping that would solve everything) and I couldn't download anymore from the market. I had to sideload ASTRO which was successful with the right ADB drivers - even though I didn't knew what ADB meant I did register on MotoDev's website (so I can download the little bastard).
Easy peasy. Now I'm back on track with ASTRO and an easy install of Flan Gallery (fixed camera) replaced my gallery. We're off to set!
Despite this minor victory I was aware I'm still not were I wanted to be. Factory reset doesn't get me were I want to be and I'm still having issues. But no problem no problem. This time I'll turn my questions to the community, not google. That's eventually why there is a community? That's why we are open source? Yes. Score. Win.
So maybe some knowledgeable people will reply because they can help the ones who are trying to learn. I think I'll start with how to fix the calendar-issue and then I'll try to make a ROM-backup, so I can install a new ROM or whatever. That's probably a better idea then before. Cool, I even got a quick reply by someone who told me to go to this-and-this site, which is better for noobs. Allrighty then...
Trying my own way.
Since things weren't going were I wanted to, I thought now it's time to give it a real last try by searching about this mystery "ADB" and eventually to push some apps into system/app/ so I could fix all this misery. I found what I was searching for, however the tut about how to push apps sounded like someone was holding a gun against the writer's head. It really sounded like he wrote it against his will.
Desperate attempts.
I started today (15 april) around 5pm local time with this whole pushing-thing because I thought I had the knowledge that I needed and even surprised myself by actually successfuly pushing some apk's using a quick and nice XDA how-to, but then things went from worse to worser. I pushed Blur.calendar.apk, Blur.service.apk, Blur.email.apk, Blur, Blur, Blur... Ironically thát what I wanted to remove at the start came voluntary back in my system/app/ of my phone.
That's quite funny especially when I rebooted my phone and I kept getting force close com.motorola.blur.service.main and I couldn't get around this except by using voice-commands (double tap home button). "Find ASTRO" I said. Finding ASTRO... Opening ASTRO... Ingenious! It was quite amazing that this feature actually works without any bugs or misunderstandings. So I started root manager, rebooted the system with r/w settings so I can try a final attempt by trying to remove blur-service.apk from the system/app/ which actually didn't had any impact. Nothing really happened.
The end.
And there I was having these problems, and the phone doesn't work. A friend of me adviced me on Steam-chat to hard-reset the phone. I could care less, but we had a little discussion about what has more effect hard-reset or factory-reset? Btw... Holding down the power button and the camera button...?! The phone doesn't even has a camera button! Hilarious.
I eventually did the hard-reset with another tut and now the phone is... ehm... kinda... pretty... bricked. It just boots up and then gives 1 continously looping force close of the blur service (which I allready had), and another force close when I finish setting up the blur account wizard. At the end of the wizard it just force close and shows the wizard again,... and again... and again...
Mathematical summon:
+1 noob
+1 bricked phone
- $$$
- (a lot of) time
+ frustrations/stress
+1 story
Equals a possitive outcome?
i've not rooted my Flipout as it seems there's not much you can do with a rooted one anyway
but I've done bad flashes before...many times
and i've always been able to rescue those phones by flashing the original rom. just wondering if this might be an option for you..
See if you can flash that device using RSDLite, I can see some tuts in this board that features this, likely that debranding guide. Hold up+power when it's off and boot into flash mode, not camera+power
A brick = a dead phone, no boot, no flicker, nothing. If it acts like a brick it's a brick, otherwise it's just a messed up phone. I'm sure you'll be able to recover yours...
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Moto phone + rsdlite + flipout sbf= fixed phone. Just find those two things and you can restore your phone back to fresh out of the box state again. Promise.
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Yeap i just did it first try hold "up" button on the keyboard + power for 4 sec then plug usb. in flex options i checked everything and it all went god then
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alright when i first got my phone i never had a problem with a typing delay. but now my phone is 6 mopnths old and i am now having lots of problems. fristly a few weeks ago i had to do a complete factory reset becuse my phone totally went rretarted. i was sitting in a restuarant and i was txting someone and her name is tiffany. i texted her and then the next message she sent me showed her number in stead of her name(like from tiffany now says from 72789846) but i didnt think anything of it like maybe she had her friends phone or something. so i didnt do anything about it. and then i got home that night and fell asleep and when i awoke i had 2 missed called so i clicked missed calls on the htc home plug in and the phone totally locked up. i reset it and upod reset i found that i cannot make calls. cant recieve calls. it said i didnt have service. couldnt go online . lost all my contacts. and the only thing i could do is text. i was furious of course. this would be the second time this year i lost all my contacts! So i called sprint and they could do nothing for me. So i did a factory reset and sucked it up!. this itself is a huge prblem becuase i no longer trust my phone at all. but i reset it and then found the new sprint rom so i loaded that on there (2nd format basicly) and its all good i suppose. its a little bit slower than it used to be. but now my cpu is as 90-95% with nothing running. slowing down my ppc to almost a standstill. it takes a very long time to open anything. but thats not why im bothered. now whenever i type the typeing delay is sooooooooo badd.. i will type a full text message and it wont type anything then i will put my phone down and 5 seconds or so later the message will be typing itself!. i want this to be fixed. also i want to speed up my phone because its very agrivating. a cheap 20 dollar phone is faster than this 350 dollar POS. but i am forced to live with my phone. and its a dam shame because i love the phone. i love everything you can do. but i want to be able to do those things well..i mean i paid 350$ for a good phone not frustration. if anyone can be of assistance please post thank you
xxbarrxx said:
alright when i first got my phone i never had a problem with a typing delay. but now my phone is 6 mopnths old and i am now having lots of problems. fristly a few weeks ago i had to do a complete factory reset becuse my phone totally went rretarted. i was sitting in a restuarant and i was txting someone and her name is tiffany. i texted her and then the next message she sent me showed her number in stead of her name(like from tiffany now says from 72789846) but i didnt think anything of it like maybe she had her friends phone or something. so i didnt do anything about it. and then i got home that night and fell asleep and when i awoke i had 2 missed called so i clicked missed calls on the htc home plug in and the phone totally locked up. i reset it and upod reset i found that i cannot make calls. cant recieve calls. it said i didnt have service. couldnt go online . lost all my contacts. and the only thing i could do is text. i was furious of course. this would be the second time this year i lost all my contacts! So i called sprint and they could do nothing for me. So i did a factory reset and sucked it up!. this itself is a huge prblem becuase i no longer trust my phone at all. but i reset it and then found the new sprint rom so i loaded that on there (2nd format basicly) and its all good i suppose. its a little bit slower than it used to be. but now my cpu is as 90-95% with nothing running. slowing down my ppc to almost a standstill. it takes a very long time to open anything. but thats not why im bothered. now whenever i type the typeing delay is sooooooooo badd.. i will type a full text message and it wont type anything then i will put my phone down and 5 seconds or so later the message will be typing itself!. i want this to be fixed. also i want to speed up my phone because its very agrivating. a cheap 20 dollar phone is faster than this 350 dollar POS. but i am forced to live with my phone. and its a dam shame because i love the phone. i love everything you can do. but i want to be able to do those things well..i mean i paid 350$ for a good phone not frustration. if anyone can be of assistance please post thank you
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I am sorry, that is one of the hardest things to read I have ever seen on this board. Good luck to you and to whoever can read that and find an answer for you.
OP: I have to agree with RevSand.
I Tried - really, I did. But, the simple fact is, my eyes crossed trying to read that ?paragraph?
You'll have much better luck getting a response if you
A) shorten that whole thing to include relevant details
B) don't type it like you're typing a text message
C) Line breaks. Paragraph Breaks.
People on message boards (myself included) generally browse through pretty quickly. VERY long winded and difficult to read posts often get read 5% of the way through, and not finished. I'm sure you can see why this would be detrimental to your getting a response/solution.
Have a great day,
Ben
xxbarrxx said:
alright when i first got my phone i never had a problem with a typing delay. but now my phone is 6 mopnths old and i am now having lots of problems. fristly a few weeks ago i had to do a complete factory reset becuse my phone totally went rretarted. i was sitting in a restuarant and i was txting someone and her name is tiffany. i texted her and then the next message she sent me showed her number in stead of her name(like from tiffany now says from 72789846) but i didnt think anything of it like maybe she had her friends phone or something. so i didnt do anything about it. and then i got home that night and fell asleep and when i awoke i had 2 missed called so i clicked missed calls on the htc home plug in and the phone totally locked up. i reset it and upod reset i found that i cannot make calls. cant recieve calls. it said i didnt have service. couldnt go online . lost all my contacts. and the only thing i could do is text. i was furious of course. this would be the second time this year i lost all my contacts! So i called sprint and they could do nothing for me. So i did a factory reset and sucked it up!. this itself is a huge prblem becuase i no longer trust my phone at all. but i reset it and then found the new sprint rom so i loaded that on there (2nd format basicly) and its all good i suppose. its a little bit slower than it used to be. but now my cpu is as 90-95% with nothing running. slowing down my ppc to almost a standstill. it takes a very long time to open anything. but thats not why im bothered. now whenever i type the typeing delay is sooooooooo badd.. i will type a full text message and it wont type anything then i will put my phone down and 5 seconds or so later the message will be typing itself!. i want this to be fixed. also i want to speed up my phone because its very agrivating. a cheap 20 dollar phone is faster than this 350 dollar POS. but i am forced to live with my phone. and its a dam shame because i love the phone. i love everything you can do. but i want to be able to do those things well..i mean i paid 350$ for a good phone not frustration. if anyone can be of assistance please post thank you
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I suggest finding a reliable ROM from either DCD kitchens or no2chem. Then uploading it into your phone ( sprint rom ofcourse ) maybe the tweaks they have made can help you out.
But if you want to stay at a stock rom ( with out GPS or Rev.A ) im sure DCD has a very stable rom for that too, or you can exchange your phone for a new one if everything else fails.
[email protected]$ said:
I suggest finding a reliable ROM from either DCD kitchens or no2chem. Then uploading it into your phone ( sprint rom ofcourse ) maybe the tweaks they have made can help you out....
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I second [email protected]$'s sentiments. I'm using DCD's 3.0.1 ROM and it is great!
The 15 minute solution is to first reflash your phone with the latest Official Sprint Mogul ROM 3.35:
http://www.htc.com/us/FAQ_Detail.aspx?p_id=75&act=sd
This will not only hard reset your device (erases all data), it will upgrade both the operating system and the radio. The upgraded radio enables GPS and also enables even faster data speeds.
Copy the .exe file of dotFred's PIM backup v2.8 (for WM5 & WM6)
http://www.dotfred.net/default.htm
into a directory (doesn't matter) on your Mogul and schedule it to regularly, AUTOMATICALLY backup all of your Contacts (and whatever else you want) onto your MicroSD every night.
There is LOTS of detailed information in this great forum about this. For further info on the Stock Sprint upgrade you can also check out:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=20641
Depending upon your job or environment, it is possible that you subjected your Mogul to an electric shock or EMP of some sort that might happen again (which could erase or corrupt your personal data), so you probably want to make a habit of backing up/synchronizing your unit with your desktop PC.
If you want to use a customized ROM, I would recommend one of DCD's latest. At the top of the "Titan Upgrading" section of XDA-Developers, you'll see DCD's latest ROM "dcd's titan ROMs & kitchen 3.0.4" or you can do a search for "DCD titan Rom 3.0.1" and select the .exe "Sprint ROM" made by |||bored||| posted by DCD in the first post. These can speed up your device even more and offer some nice features.
However there are some careful (but easy) steps that you'll want to follow when upgrading to a customized ROM, so I strongly recommend reading the forums carefully. I found this one helpful:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=17667
Also, because most of the customized ROMs are streamlined to operate faster and more efficiently, some features that you MIGHT want have been disabled or removed. Browsing the forums can help identify how to re-enable/re-install any of these that are important to you. That being said, they've added LOTs of nice features not available on the stock ROM.
Recently my phone started acting a little unusual. For instance, composed email weren't being sent out while syncing and a wipe and reflash seemed to fix it at first. This problem continued to get worse and at the same time, I started getting SD card ejected notifications seemingly without reason. Now it's to the point that my phone is completely unusable/useless. IF it boots all the way up, it will lock and then just go black. I have to remove the battery for some time to get it to turn on again. This includes loading the SPL and the Recovery interface. The ONLY way my fone will act semi-normal is if I remove the SIM card and boot it. Then eventually it will again just shut-off. I have reverted back to an older SPL with no luck (was using Haykuro's latest one until now). I have loaded multiple radio's with no luck (after reverting the SPL of course). I have tried multiple ROM builds, JF's, Cyanogens and Haykuro with no luck. This really sux. 4 month old fone and seems the radio might be fried. VERY disappointed in the quality. I hope I can get some help and warranty the phone. I am thankful I unlocked my old Blackjack and am able to use it for now. Just though I would share my tale of woe. I am not sure exactly what caused this. Maybe too much flashing? Not sure, but be aware; I feel like maybe I played too much with my phone. That last part REALLY sux cause I love my fone. I LOVE that I can play with it and install all of the great ROMs and themes. Anyway, best of luck to all you Dream owners. I hope I dont have to buy another one (cant afford it )
My fone is not bricked it just seems unstable in every way. Sad day 4 me
[UPDATE]
Before I made this post, I turned on the blue LED (holding trackball and power) and just let my phone sit there. Didn't really have a good reason to do so other than 'why not?'. Anyway, shortly after making this post, I couldn't just leave it alone so I picked up my phone again (I really do love it that much lol). While holding it and just thinking about my less and desirable situation, I noticed the back of the fone was warm like it is when you've been using it for some time. I couldn't help but think that the blue light was indicating that "something" was going on in the background so I just began pushing the buttons on the front and no specific way just randomly and all the sudden my fone rebooted. Sorry I can't say how long it was in "blue light" mode.
Now everything I had experienced and read concerning the "blue light" indicated the only way to get it out of this mode is to 1) remove the battery or 2) let the battery just die on its own. So you can imagine my surprise when the fone just rebooted. It booted up (no SIM inserted) and seem to be fine, but as I mentioned before, this had happened only to lock up and reboot itself. I just began using it as much as I could to see if it would fail again and it seemed to keep going fine so I thought "why not insert the sim again?" So...
With SIM inserted, the fone booted up fine. Again I began to put it through its paces and everything is good so far. Makes call (too late to have someone test call me), browses, downloads market, basically everything with no lockups and no reboots leaving all keys unresponsive. Damn I was happy! But not too much just yet. I'll let it keep going for sometime to make sure it's good, but I can't help but to think that putting my fone into "blue light" mode somehow "fixed" my fone fo lack of a better word. I am perplexed but pleased. Will update later after some decent testing time has gone by. I remain hopeful and regret my earlier comments regarding the fone's quality. I hope I remain regretful of this lol.
Interesting. Can you tell what EXACTLY was on the SDCARD when this happened?
lbcoder:
When this problem first happened on my phone I had folders containing my AppManager backups, ringtones, NES ROMS, camera pix and video files. It's the SD card I always have in there. I don't use apps2sd. I thought maybe there some problem with this card so I tried 2 other SDs I have with the same results; instability. I even tried a clean build with no SD card (as well as with and without SIM); all with the same results. I tried every possibly combination as a form of troubleshooting.
When I put it into blue light mode, the SD card that was installed contained DCIM (pix), appmanager, mp3s, video files, 2 different radios in .zip form (radio 1.22 and the sappire radio; neither with the name update.zip), .footprints folder, ime folder and that's about it. Did u have something in mind?
BTW, I wish I could edit the name of my thread to show there's an update...
The Blue LED has some other purpose and is simply not a "lock". That just seems silly and useless, especially since you'll find if you put it into this 'mode' it will drain your battery fairly quickly for a 'lock' mode (like 12 hours).
There's more than a 'lock' going on here...
I agree. It's doing something in the background other than just being a type of "lock". I'm don't want to claim that it fixed my phone because I have no idea what it's doing when that little blue lights is on. I am saying that it seems a little more than coincidental that my fubared fone (my feeling at the time) began to "magically" work after putting it into this mode and its subsequent reboot. I am really glad I did.
No amount of: fastboot erase "partition name", data wipes, radio/spl/rom flashing helped my fone. I was going to try and get warranty today, but now I don't need to. Back running ION and happy as h3ll! Maybe this will help someone else with a fone that refuses to function correct. Maybe it won't, but I definitely wanted to share my experience with it.
BTW, I was running Cyanogens 3.4 JF mod at the time this began. I understand some other people have had some similar issues as seen here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=525306
These problems are very similar to what I was having, but mine seem irrecoverable even after flashing EVERYTHING. Just food for thought...
I wonder if it found one of those radios and did something with it?
For that thread, Cyanogen has stated that the main issue is in the kernel. The memory killer kicks in and kills essential processes thus result in a crash. He stated that he's looking into it and the fix will likely be in 3.4.1 or one of the iterations after that. I'm not sure if your suffering from the same thing though. None of them seem to have the same symptoms as you do.
hamshu said:
For that thread, Cyanogen has stated that the main issue is in the kernel. The memory killer kicks in and kills essential processes thus result in a crash. He stated that he's looking into it and the fix will likely be in 3.4.1 or one of the iterations after that. I'm not sure if your suffering from the same thing though. None of them seem to have the same symptoms as you do.
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This is why I stay on Google Ion. It's clean, stable and fast. All these "optimized" builds seem plauged by bugs and quirks.
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I wonder if it found one of those radios and did something with it?
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Interesting thought. But it would have to have parsed the file and made a determination on its own as to whether or not it was a valid radio. Neither were named update.zip at the time. Also, I had already downgraded the radio to one of the versions that existed in file name radio_1.22.zip that was on the SD. That allowed me to downgrade the SPL without bricking because at the time I was running Haykuro's newest SPL (which I have since reflashed to my now functioning fone).
For that thread, Cyanogen has stated that the main issue is in the kernel. The memory killer kicks in and kills essential processes thus result in a crash. He stated that he's looking into it and the fix will likely be in 3.4.1 or one of the iterations after that. I'm not sure if your suffering from the same thing though. None of them seem to have the same symptoms as you do.
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Actually I described pretty much the problem quoted below that is in the thread that I referenced earlier:
tearsphere said:
Can someone please help me..
I installed Cyanogen 3.4 when it got released a few days ago and it was running smoothly.. I think he is a genious. Just today my phone shut off on its own and I had to take the battery out and put it back in to get it to come back on.
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So I guess it could be open to interpretation. I think Cyanogen does amazing work. I have great respect for him and all his efforts that have given us more functionality with our Dream fones. As I said, it's food for thought. I'm not drawing any conclusions as they would be based on conjecture.
I am intrigued by the blue light mode. I really wish we knew exactly what purpose it serves.
So Im VERY new to this, first Windows Mobile phone. And this is my first post.
Right after receiving my HD2, I was disappointed with my purchase. I loved my Android powered G1, and fell in love with HTC. But when I got my HD2, the texting was terrible, and my phone kept freezing. After talking with a few friends about this, I was referred to this site.
From there, I did some research, and have learned a little bit. I decided to upgrade the ROM to the stock T-Mobile 2.13, through a link I found on this site. At the same time, I loved the interface of the CHT and CHTE, so I loaded those. Also, at the recommendation of Cookie's thread, I loaded Chainfire HD2 3D Driver Patch V2.0.
Well everything feels better, Ive started using Swype, and I havent had any freezing issues. I couldnt be happier...
But I recently notice (I dont do many phone calls, or talking. Im more web, email, and text) my incoming call screen isnt popping up. My phone will ring, I pull the phone out, and I see my home screen, and it is unlocked, like it should be when an incoming call comes through. I start tapping on the screen, and where I tap, icons/buttons start popping up. The "Mute" button, the "Answer/Ignore" bar, and SOMETIMES the caller's ID pic (if Im lucky enough for it to be someone who has a pic).
Now, this doesnt happen ALWAYS, but it does happen here and there. Ive also noticed, that the function that blacks/locks the screen when in call, against your face is running funny.
Does anyone know if this is related to my ROM? The 3D Driver Patch? CHT? Has anyone had anything similar???
I DID do a search, but only in this TMOus HD2 General sub forum. Should I be looking else where? Sorry for such a novel. I just felt that I should provide any possibly necessary info, since Im kind of clueless to this phone modifying world.
TIA.
Hmm...if it were me I'd definitely start with uninstalling that video driver and see if that changes the behavior.
Also, are you using the stock lockscreen or do you have CHT lockscreen enabled via CHTE? If you do have CHT's enabled, then next you might want to switch it off and see if it helps.
I don't know for sure that either of those will resolve that, but that's where I'd start troubleshooting.
After your new rom finished flashing, did you perform a manual hard reset (as recommended by most chefs)?
I've found that there is more chance of the rom being unstable if you dont.
(flashes dont always take first time, no clue why, but i'd estimate about 1 in 10 flashes just isn't stable, yet the next flash with the same rom is stable, , , I've also noted similar results when installing an OS on my PC, , , sometimes it just doesnt wanna take properly.)
theidealone said:
So Im VERY new to this, first Windows Mobile phone. And this is my first post.
Right after receiving my HD2, I was disappointed with my purchase. I loved my Android powered G1, and fell in love with HTC. But when I got my HD2, the texting was terrible, and my phone kept freezing. After talking with a few friends about this, I was referred to this site.
From there, I did some research, and have learned a little bit. I decided to upgrade the ROM to the stock T-Mobile 2.13, through a link I found on this site. At the same time, I loved the interface of the CHT and CHTE, so I loaded those. Also, at the recommendation of Cookie's thread, I loaded Chainfire HD2 3D Driver Patch V2.0.
Well everything feels better, Ive started using Swype, and I havent had any freezing issues. I couldnt be happier...
But I recently notice (I dont do many phone calls, or talking. Im more web, email, and text) my incoming call screen isnt popping up. My phone will ring, I pull the phone out, and I see my home screen, and it is unlocked, like it should be when an incoming call comes through. I start tapping on the screen, and where I tap, icons/buttons start popping up. The "Mute" button, the "Answer/Ignore" bar, and SOMETIMES the caller's ID pic (if Im lucky enough for it to be someone who has a pic).
Now, this doesnt happen ALWAYS, but it does happen here and there. Ive also noticed, that the function that blacks/locks the screen when in call, against your face is running funny.
Does anyone know if this is related to my ROM? The 3D Driver Patch? CHT? Has anyone had anything similar???
I DID do a search, but only in this TMOus HD2 General sub forum. Should I be looking else where? Sorry for such a novel. I just felt that I should provide any possibly necessary info, since Im kind of clueless to this phone modifying world.
TIA.
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I read somewhere that the "unleaked official ROM" caused more problems than it was worth. I got the 2.13 ROM on the leaked version before it was made official and it has been working great since. I read that they made more changes and then made it official and that it was causing phones to be bricked and most phones ended up worse than they where before the the upgrade. The only "negative" thing i experienced was the screen sensitivity but it appears that the cab featured in the sticky at the top of the post fixed that!? Kinda strange If all else fails Factory Reset and try again. I always like to take a baseline reading. When my phone began acting screwy I would restore and run it stock for a few days to see if problems persisted...then after about three or four days slowly begin installing things...
Thanks for the responses! I will start with sirphunkee's suggestions. As I was typing, I started thinking the Driver Patch was a good possibility. Also, I have noticed that the phone doesnt just "sleep" the screen when I put the phone to my face, it locks. Im assuming this is something to do with CHTE's lock, because as sirphunkee mentioned, I am using the CHTE lock, instead of the stock.
Im going to start there, and see what happens.
Also, I did NOT do a manual hard reset. How would I go about doing so (yes, Im a HUGE noob. More of a car guy)? Im hoping I wont need to do this, as Im assuming I will need to restore all of my contacts, reorganize them, and reset everything else, as if the phone were new out of the box... Correct? But in case that is necessary, how do I do so?
As far as the leaked or official version... I couldnt find it on T-Mobile's site. I read a thread here, where it had been there then removed, due to people having issues with the download. I then was searching Swype or something, same forum, and found another thread, where someone had a link to the download through T-Mobile. Kinda hard to explain, but I will see if I can find the link, and the thread.
Thanks again guys! I really appreciate it. And thanks for taking it easy on me.
I just tried to post the links. I found them in my browser History. But because I have such a new account, I cant post.
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I just tried to post the links. I found them in my browser History. But because I have such a new account, I cant post.
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Thanks for the effort though, you'll be able to put up links after just a few more posts (it's listed in the forum rules...hint, hint). Also, toreone already threw up a new thread in this section with that link for everybody, so don't sweat that
EDIT: oops, missed the rest of your questions there. The hard-reset is exactly what you said...resets the phone to factory-fresh condition. Yes, contacts will have to be reapplied, but sorting really shouldn't be an issue depending on your method of backing up and restoring them. I highly recommend using the built-in Microsoft Myphone utility for that (and it's wise to let it back them up regularly too, just in case, I just have mine set to do it each night while it's charging).
You can perform a hard-reset a couple of ways:
1. on your settings tab, hit "menu", then "all settings", then "system". You'll find an icon in there titled "clear storage". Run that, use 1234 as the code, and it will do its deed.
2. with the phone powered off, hold both the vol up and down buttons at the same time, and then press the end/power button to turn it back on, then it will take you into the same hard-reset process as the first method.
Sure the phone has a big screen. Yes it's easier to see things than my Wifes Dinc. No I dont think it is worth it, lets review.
All these issues/problems? happen rooted or not, or rooted without removing Bloat.
Rooted with Following Bloatware removed,
Blockbuster
City ID
Amazon
Youtube
3G hotspot
NFS
Issues........
Keyboard puts period in instead of space when typing, especially when typing fast. Had all features turned off like spell check, etc. Got so bad it would put a period in when I hit the H key or something, and I had to type real slow. Then there would be a delay in typing. I would start typing away and there would be no animation or...typing in the text box, then it would seem like the phone woke up and all of a sudden an entire sentence shows up.
Screen would not recognize touch. Could not unlock phone, could not scroll, if my finger got close to the screen it would select something and open it, but not scroll. Even though I was not touching screen. At times No response. Cleaned screen, cleaned hands. Tried clean hands, dirty hands, sweaty , etc. all same results.
Extreme slow response time. I would unlock phone, select app drawer, it would take 20 seconds before the app drawer would open, or if an app would open, or if the cursor would let me start typing, I had gone through 2 days of dealing with that BS.
Speaker. Oh this one is good...
So one day I notice the phone vibrates, yet no audio. So I check the volume, yup its up, check settings, ok all good. So I decide to play a song, its playing but just next to nothing for volume. I fiddle a bit and said Eff it, I reboot the phone. Audio is back to normal. Seems every 2 days or so I need to reboot the phone so I can hear any audio from speaker.
Random Lock ups.....
BT drops and then phone shows speakerphone button highlighted and BT button highlighted yet no audio from phone call from either BT or Speakerphone.
Unrooted bone stock with only a few apps on phone,
Same **** mentioned above.
Im tired of this. Can someone tell me what I need to do to have a stable Dx?.
Currently the phone is not rooted, and I am still experiencing issues.
I have documented these issues with the Big V as they happen, but have not done anything but order one for my wife gee looking forward to that mess, she loves to load up the apps.......
Try wiping your cache partition from recovery mode. If that doesn't work you can use the now available sbf to get your X back to factory. Now leave the bloatware alone and root again.
I agree with TF. try wiping the phone (I would suggest complete flash if possible) and see if same stuff happens.
I think you may have a bad phone. If the software reset doesn't fix it, See if VZW will exchange it. I've not had any of the problems you describe. And the fact that you are having screen/touch issues, and there was a small batch of phones with screen problems, tells me you may be one of the "lucky:
Don't have much to say, i've only had one reboot and that was bc of rogue app and i had on complete freeze but my battery was less than 10% while actually on this forum, other than that it has been smooth as butter for the most part. I came from the DInc and wouldn't switch back for anything
sent from Shawn Micheals...The heartbreak Kid
I forogt to mention I did unroot, then wipe, then left it stock, still have same issues.
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I forogt to mention I did unroot, then wipe, then left it stock, still have same issues.
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Unfortunately, wiping (factory Reset) doesn't completely restore all of the files. As evidenced by other threads where people changed/removed some APK's and were left in a boot loop when they did a reset.
I'm still leaning towards you having a bad piece of hardware, but it would be better to rule out the software environment first. Thus, it may be worth learning how to flash the new SBF file. That should truly put your phone back in 'out of the box' condition.
To get outta the box you need to use the .sbf file then factory reset. Just using the.sbf leaves all apps and data. Have done .sbf from linux and windows with no problems.remember to *228 option 1 after to reactivate. Would give this a try then bring in for warranty if it doesn't solve it
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you def have a bad phone...exchange it.
I've never had any of these problems, except for the ****ty speaker.
There is as 17+ page thread on Motos forum about the rebooting issue. I just jumped ship from Verizon and went with Sprint.
I could of handled the phone issues and waited for the 2.2 update, however working for Verizon I was in awe of the ****ty service by one particular Verizon store. On a Evo now with 2.2
Yes my phone is a beast. Much more so than the evo. I owned the DInc so yes i know EXACTLY how the evo runs. I definitely think there was an initial bad batch that went out, just like every other phone, evo and dinc, and iphone, and all the galaxy phones that went out. Im in love with this phone
sent from Shawn Micheals...The heartbreak Kid
mine works fine
Mine runs like a champ, get yours exchanged before the 30 days runs out. Simple and easy fix.
Mine is rock solid... works great... this should be a comfort to you... since all you have to do is exchange it for another one.. then you should be good!
Loving mine, glad I waited several weeks to jump on it, after the screen issues, speaker issues, I ended up getting a flawless device, speaker isnt like my tp2, but I havent missed any calls or had any issues hearing it like many others. After being burned time after time, think im gonna wait on pulling the trigger on every phone I get from now on!
this phone is definitely a beast, love it, coming from a Dinc, i have to say the X blows it out the water...
you may have a bad phone...
did u experience the issues you listed prior to rooting? if no, then theres your answer and follow the advice listed earlier about flashing the phone back
You're not by chance running a task killer set to kill everything are you?
Hello my name is Xan Steel. I've been trying out roms on this forum for my Epic 4G. However I've run across a lot of bugs in this rom "ACS ICS V6". I would love to be able to post them in the development thread pertaining to the rom, but since I'm under the 10 post limit to post in a dev thread. I would like to ask how I go about doing this the correct way without breaking forum rules.
Thanks in advanced
Xan Steel
Tell us what your problems are here.
1st you have to have 10 post. Go to other threads and comment on stuff like the off topic forum. Then you should be able to post on dev threads. Or you can pm them and let them know.
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Well as Neckberg has said to post my issues here (Thanks) I shall.
[ROM] ACS ICS V6.
Where to began.
I came from ACS SyndicateFrozen 1.1.1 I could never get 1.2 to run. And this ROM was based on GB. Really wanted to see what GB was like. SO after installing the ROM. Everything started out normal (no issues at that point). It was sluggish which made me wonder if Carrier I.Q. was still in the ROM. It wasn't listed that it was removed.
SO I started trying things out. Everything was going good until I turned on the Wireless WiFi Tether. It crashed outright. Tried again, and crashed. It would open to a black screen and then crash. So I did some digging, and apparently this is a known issue. So I got a different one from the market that worked (Open Garden WiFi Tether).
I installed Opera. I like Opera for it's desktop mode that actually works over Dolphins. I would type in a address, and hit go, and it would act like its going, and then stop and remove what I had typed. Tried again, and it would load a blank page. Tried a third time, and got the HTML header to load the page in a text format. Uninstalled and reinstalled same thing happen. So I left it alone, and about 3 hours later it had uninstalled itself/completely missing on the phone and market stated it wasn't installed. Rebooted phone, still gone. Not idea where it went. After reinstalling it again. it would do the same thing.
So I flashed and wiped X3. And reloaded the ROM. Thinking I have a bad load.
reinstalled all my apps and even though Opera is still doing it's thing I mentioned earlier, it hasn't uninstalled itself... yet.
Now after the reload of the ROM. Last night I lost cell service (couldn't make calls) but I had data. Which was odd to me. Rebooted the phone, and same thing. Had data but not cell service. After about and hour or so, I have cell and data back together. Maybe it was someone working on the tower in the area at 11pm, or maybe the ROM decided it would be funny.
Another thing I noticed. If you hit the menu button to pull menus in apps and on the home screens. They are white on black. White text and image, on a black background. Now if you go into any sub-menu from the main menu, its black on black. You can't read anything unless your lucky to have a bright white page behind it, so that it can try to bleed through some of the transparency.
The battery icon when charging in portrait goes from normal to skinny (blinking), while in landscape mode it goes from normal to fat (blinking).
Also two music apps is not really needed. One is fine. Trimming down on unneeded apps would help save on space. Also remove Carrier I.Q. if it hasn't been yet.
Adding that super brightness, is actually bad. Not thinking about it, it's actually crashed the video HW of the phone. On a plain white screen at max brightness, it starts to artifact, and if what ever your trying to do doesn't complete. The video HW crashes, and you get a pretty rainbow on the screen until you pull the battery. Basically acts like a dying or dead video card in a PC. Also it can (and has happened to me) cause screen burn in. If you want a image of it let me know and I'll post one.
Also Rom Manager does not recognize any ClockWorkMod Recovery, if you manually install the recovery yourself.
If I find anything else buggy I'll post and update here.
Thanks
Xan Steel
Phone: Epic 4G
ROM: ACS ICS V6
Recovery CWM 3.1.0.1 purple
Note, I haven't tried this rom myself.
No, carrierIQ is not removed on this rom, nor has it been removed on any GB rom that I know of. Still, removed or not, it won't make any difference in the performance of the device.
Any apps that you fine are useless can easily be uninstalled, even if they are installed system/app folder. Rom chefs correct attitude about roms is that they build for themselves first. I personally have 3 music players installed.
We don't have official Rom Manager support so that will be an issue on pretty much all non AOSP roms for the epic.
Your lack of service issue it probably a carrier issue and not a rom issue.
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Note, I haven't tried this rom myself.
No, carrierIQ is not removed on this rom, nor has it been removed on any GB rom that I know of. Still, removed or not, it won't make any difference in the performance of the device.
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Ah makes sense. It's relatively new, and most likely not been worked on yet.
Any apps that you fine are useless can easily be uninstalled, even if they are installed system/app folder.
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Ah, then I should be able to remove them myself fairly easily.
We don't have official Rom Manager support so that will be an issue on pretty much all non AOSP roms for the epic.
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Do you know if that is something being worked on?
Your lack of service issue it probably a carrier issue and not a rom issue.
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It's a good possibility since it only happened the one time, but since it is a beta, and I'm using it for the first time. I felt it needed to be brought up just in case it wasn't. Heh beta tested a lot of new software, and got into the habit of reporting everything, even if it looks like something else is the issue and not the software.
Many Thanks
Xan Steel