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[Q] Epic Development?

Hey all, if you've ever been on the CDMA Hero thread you probably know me, and know that I'm a major theme developer and community support member. I'm most likely going to upgrade in about a week to the Epic, and was wondering how far along rom/theme development is for the Epic, what the best roms are now, etc. Thanks everyone, and I look forward to working with you on Epic development and support!
And feel free to see some of my work on theming in my sig
Please vote in the poll if you can! Thank you And if you vote for the Evo option, can you please tell me why? Thanks

The more devs the better! Look forward to using your work.
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mikel719 said:
The more devs the better! Look forward to using your work.
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Thanks man, I looks forward to making it How do you like the Epic? Any major bugs I should be aware of?

There seems to be a lot of drama and desire to program for the fame instead of the scene. Semi-frustrating to see from the perspective of an enthusiast. But I am hesitant to criticize because I am only beginning to dive into android dev.
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Most dev work (not that the current leaked Froyo ROMs are not in abundance but nontheless) in my opinion seems to be at a slight impasse except for work on the leaked Froyo but I think other devs are just waiting till it is officially released..

tyl3rdurden said:
Most dev work (not that the current leaked Froyo ROMs are not in abundance but nontheless) in my opinion seems to be at a slight impasse except for work on the leaked Froyo but I think other devs are just waiting till it is officially released..
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Ok, thanks for that I may start building ROMs myself if I have the time

Vanquish46 said:
There seems to be a lot of drama and desire to program for the fame instead of the scene. Semi-frustrating to see from the perspective of an enthusiast. But I am hesitant to criticize because I am only beginning to dive into android dev.
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Yeah, I've heard about some of the Epic drama

I can't justify a few loud kids screaming in the playground as drama. It only takes a very few active trolls to derail a thread and once it starts, people tend to stay away. I blame it mostly on the frustration of having to wait on Samsung.
I find that theres a lot of good devs and people like anywhere else. A lot of the bugs (major one being gps which I have not encountered) have been fixed by the leaked Froyo and with its release coming soon (knock on wood) its understandable that the community is going a little slow.
Good devs and helpful members are always greeted with open arms here and I really hope you'll be enjoying your new Epic soon.

riceknight said:
I can't justify a few loud kids screaming in the playground as drama. It only takes a very few active trolls to derail a thread and once it starts, people tend to stay away. I blame it mostly on the frustration of having to wait on Samsung.
I find that theres a lot of good devs and people like anywhere else. A lot of the bugs (major one being gps which I have not encountered) have been fixed by the leaked Froyo and with its release coming soon (knock on wood) its understandable that the community is going a little slow.
Good devs and helpful members are always greeted with open arms here and I really hope you'll be enjoying your new Epic soon.
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Great, thank you for that I've heard about a back button flaw, any validity?

There used to be a Back button flaw in early hardware revisions but it was addressed shortly after launch I believe.

Welcome... I look forward to seeing your stuff!

TheDub said:
There used to be a Back button flaw in early hardware revisions but it was addressed shortly after launch I believe.
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Cool, sounds good then

romanmb said:
Welcome... I look forward to seeing your stuff!
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Thanks man, I looks forward to developing it and messing with the Epic

theimpaler747 said:
Thanks man, I looks forward to making it How do you like the Epic? Any major bugs I should be aware of?
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There's minor bugs here and there.mostly from user error. I love my epic though and I am glad I didn't jump on the evo bandwagon. I wouldn't trade it for the world.
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mikel719 said:
There's minor bugs here and there.mostly from user error. I love my epic though and I am glass I didn't jump on the evo bandwagon. I wouldn't trade it for the world.
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Cool cool, I can't wait to get it!!!

Welcome!
We could certainly use more devs!
Really the one major flaw was already mentioned (GPS) and for the most part that had been addressed in 2.2, but I heard there was still a cache issue.
Mic doesn't work in 2.1 with non stock kernels when using the 3.5mm jack. Worked great in my tests with dk05 2.2 but that's stock kernel.
That's all that stands out to me atm.
I'm currently using the syndicate rom 1.0.2 with xtreme kernel 1.2.0 and have been extremely happy with them. I'll probably get bored and flash the latest froyo leak soon though.
As for the drama, I came from the WM 8525 forum and seem to remember people working much better together, but we had some good quality devs/users.
I'm sure as the Epic community continues to mature the drama will lessen. One can hope.
At any rate, I look forward to seeing your work
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drakkahn said:
Welcome!
We could certainly use more devs!
Really the one major flaw was already mentioned (GPS) and for the most part that had been addressed in 2.2, but I heard there was still a cache issue.
Mic doesn't work in 2.1 with non stock kernels when using the 3.5mm jack. Worked great in my tests with dk05 2.2 but that's stock kernel.
That's all that stands out to me atm.
I'm currently using the syndicate rom 1.0.2 with xtreme kernel 1.2.0 and have been extremely happy with them. I'll probably get bored and flash the latest froyo leak soon though.
As for the drama, I came from the WM 8525 forum and seem to remember people working much better together, but we had some good quality devs/users.
I'm sure as the Epic community continues to mature the drama will lessen. One can hope.
At any rate, I look forward to seeing your work
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Cool, sounds like a great phone to me I'm glad development seems to be picking up too with the 2.2 leak

You might know this already but Froyo from El Goog dropped so hopefully Development will start picking up again

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You might know this already but Froyo from El Goog dropped so hopefully Development will start picking up again
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I don't know that! Cool cool Thanks for that info; so there's official 2.2 on the Epic?

Bumping this because I'd like a few more votes please before I commit and buy one here for my upgrade

gingerbread is coming!!!

http://www.gizmocrunch.com/android/4229-android-gingerbread-samsung-epic-captivate-fascinate-vibrant

If this is true, and followed through it will restore my faith in Samsung.
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Just a rumor.... but makes sense.
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On second thought. Why would samsung OTA us to 2.3, by doing so that would make the Nexus S just another Vibrant over at T-Mobile.

shook187 said:
On second thought. Why would samsung OTA us to 2.3, by doing so that would make the Nexus S just another Vibrant over at T-Mobile.
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My understanding is that the Nexus S (like the Nexus One) is a stripped down, super-phone, demonstration of new technology and in this case the most notable difference would be the form factor and the NFC. I think Sammy would face more backlash from consumers for ignoring hardware customers already paid for so as to make a new product with near-identical hardware better.

I would assume to have a 2.3 powerhouse phone on all major carriers for bragging and sales purposes. Would make a ton of sense.
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styckx said:
I would assume to have a 2.3 powerhouse phone on all major carriers for bragging and sales purposes. Would make a ton of sense.
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That *would* make sense. Also, it would rock.

Is the person who posted that credible?

globalninja said:
Is the person who posted that credible?
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From the article:
While only a rumor, he's usually spot on and the tweet does seem very plausible so we wouldn't be surprised if Samsung Galaxy S phones (Captivate, Fascinate, Epic 4G and Vibrant) will beat HTC and Motorola devices to Android 2.3.
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Personally, I'd never heard of him but I've requested to follow him on twitter. In the end we'll just have to wait and see but it would be nice. If this update were coming soon I think there would be some RCs floating around but seeing as we have Froyo ones and a 'near-official' OTA update that went to .4 phones its hard to know if we'll skip 2.2 and go right to 2.3. I want this to happen but the evidence I have right now would seem to go against this.

I honestly though don't care about gingerbread all that much. I'm planning to have this phone for awhile. It does everything I need with ease. Big difference from when I had the Moment and from day 1 felt the need to smash it into a wall because of how slow and laggy it was. I would hope samsung realizes this isn't a phone to cut ties with because it defintely has staying power even after it's superceded by something faster on paper but probably only marginably faster in real world use.
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So if you're wondering why Samsung hasn't bothered upgrading most of its smartphons to Android 2.2 Froyo yet then this could be the reason. Let's see if Samsung leapfrogs to Android Gingerbread before the holidays or not.
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if we skip straight to 2.3 I will start rescuing kittens!!!!

With how good samsung did with sales from all the galaxy s phones, i wouldnt be surprised that they would do this.. that would be so sweet to have gingerbread on epic and since its on the nexus s with samehardware screen and stats, makes sense they could upgrade all variants epic will definitly be the top of the line if it got gingerbread, but also i agree with the poster above about caring less as long as i have a good running phone with 2.2 ill be set til the dual core processors come out and another top of the line phone comes out for sprint next year or 2 years,

kenvan19 said:
From the article:
Personally, I'd never heard of him but I've requested to follow him on twitter. In the end we'll just have to wait and see but it would be nice. If this update were coming soon I think there would be some RCs floating around but seeing as we have Froyo ones and a 'near-official' OTA update that went to .4 phones its hard to know if we'll skip 2.2 and go right to 2.3. I want this to happen but the evidence I have right now would seem to go against this.
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I agree, its better to wait and see. I would rather not get myself excited only t be disappointed in the end. The best i could see out of this is samsung releasing gingerbread much earlier then any of us would expect. I don't know...lets just see.

kenvan19 said:
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Personally, I'd never heard of him but I've requested to follow him on twitter. In the end we'll just have to wait and see but it would be nice. If this update were coming soon I think there would be some RCs floating around but seeing as we have Froyo ones and a 'near-official' OTA update that went to .4 phones its hard to know if we'll skip 2.2 and go right to 2.3. I want this to happen but the evidence I have right now would seem to go against this.
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I would have to agree with you. It would be nice, and it would increase following among sammy, but will it be released soon? At this point, possibly but not probably.
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globalninja said:
I agree, its better to wait and see. I would rather not get myself excited only t be disappointed in the end. The best i could see out of this is samsung releasing gingerbread much earlier then any of us would expect. I don't know...lets just see.
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Indeed. I spent months reading about how my Mytouch was getting Eclair only to be let down every time. I will say that if they do leapfrog 2.2 and get my device up-to-android-date then when I buy my fiancee's new phone in about a month she'll be getting a Sammy device. Otherwise, I'm not going to get her a phone that's always out-of-date.

Now if we dont receive an update b4 january first for anything this might prove that we will have gingerbread later and prove that they skipped froyo.
I mean if they dont give us froyo b4 the end of the year like they promised, they could be working on gingerbread we shall see by the end of this month.

The only thing I am not looking forward to is the possible return of these forums turning into unreadable garbage of people trolling, fighting and starting multiple threads about when or why Gingerbread is/isn't on the epic.
This thread has been nice though.
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styckx said:
The only thing I am not looking forward to is the possible return of these forums turning into unreadable garbage of people trolling, fighting and starting multiple threads about when or why Gingerbread is/isn't on the epic.
This thread has been nice though.
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i completly agree with you hopefully it doesnt get posted all over the place including the develpment thread, this was a nice find and read tho thanks OP!

davidrules7778 said:
Now if we dont receive an update b4 january first for anything this might prove that we will have gingerbread later and prove that they skipped froyo.
I mean if they dont give us froyo b4 the end of the year like they promised, they could be working on gingerbread we shall see by the end of this month.
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What you are saying makes a lot of sense. Good post.

davidrules7778 said:
this was a nice find and read tho thanks OP!
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;-) np .... Hopefully we could keep most gingerbread talk here. After all, anything we hear to this point are only to be considered rumors.

Galaxy s will have 2.3

According to the samsung facebook page it says they will get 2.3. They even talked about some of the improvements.
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I'm not trying to hate but I dont believe a word samsung says anymore

Samsung lies.
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mikey7436 said:
According to the samsung facebook page it says they will get 2.3. They even talked about some of the improvements.
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Do you have a link to their page or posting?

**** samsung
Vibrant + Nero + SuperIO Kernel + OCLF

it looks like i'm getting my 2.3 most likely from supercurio that guys a mad man ;p

willsnews said:
it looks like i'm getting my 2.3 most likely from supercurio that guys a mad man ;p
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Id rather not.
They don't have drivers for half the things that make this phone a smartphone.
Also can u post a link to their facebook thing? Id like to see it too.
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xriderx66 said:
Id rather not.
They don't have drivers for half the things that make this phone a smartphone.
Also can u post a link to their facebook thing? Id like to see it too.
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This lol. All the 2.2 roms depended on Samsung's leaks as a base to have full functionality.

This would be exciting if we had received 2.2 back in September, when it was promised. Samsung is a joke, but we all know that already.

mikey7436 said:
According to the samsung facebook page it says they will get 2.3. They even talked about some of the improvements.
Really? I just scoured their page and nothing was mentioned.
You just looking to troll?
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frawggy said:
mikey7436 said:
According to the samsung facebook page it says they will get 2.3. They even talked about some of the improvements.
Really? I just scoured their page and nothing was mentioned.
You just looking to troll?
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Or maybe you can't find it.
Stop calling others "trolls" because theyre new to the scene k?
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Where? http://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobile?v=wall
I don't see it. And if it is true, I'm guessing it'd take til June of 2011 to get it in the Galaxy S. Which then would be delayed to July, then August, then September.....
I really think Samsung does it on purpose. I've gone through so many scenarios as to why they are delaying FroYo for so long, and I just cannot reason it. I am certain it is on purpose. Why? That's the one million dollar question. Could it be to sell more Nexus S'? Could be. But no one knows for sure except Samsung...
I just don't see how a company as big as Samsung can't devote the manpower to put this thing together and up and running months ago.

xriderx66 said:
frawggy said:
Or maybe you can't find it.
Stop calling others "trolls" because theyre new to the scene k?
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Maybe you weren't around to see the stupidly ridiculous amount of Froyo threads before the leaked builds started coming out. Maybe you're right and he just didn't find it, but we've all heard the same things before, by trolls and Samsung.
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Bernardos70 said:
Where? http://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobile?v=wall
I don't see it. And if it is true, I'm guessing it'd take til June of 2011 to get it in the Galaxy S. Which then would be delayed to July, then August, then September.....
I really think Samsung does it on purpose. I've gone through so many scenarios as to why they are delaying FroYo for so long, and I just cannot reason it. I am certain it is on purpose. Why? That's the one million dollar question. Could it be to sell more Nexus S'? Could be. But no one knows for sure except Samsung...
I just don't see how a company as big as Samsung can't devote the manpower to put this thing together and up and running months ago.
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Because Samsung never have to made products that needs long term commitmenets. They make TV, Monitors, and Flash Disks, and dumb phones which were all sales are final kind of product; as long as there are no large manufacturer defect, it's pretty much end of support - minus some lemons.
They did have the omnia series, but they develop the OS in house, but was also slow as hell to push out updates. That's the only counter argument I foresee.
Overall, Samsung is just very bad at software, kind of like Sony before PS3.

Tip! Only believe what Google says!
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mikey7436 said:
According to the samsung facebook page it says they will get 2.3. They even talked about some of the improvements.
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According to Samsung, we will have 2.2 by the end of September.

wow! we all have this phone and are apart of this site. doesnt that stand for something? like the people who have this phone and know nothing of the mods or roms here really do love this phone. they might not be enjoying the luxuries that we have but they are content. besides if i can enjoy gingerbread on this phone before i upgrade it to something newer in the future, cool! if not i will enjoy all of the spectacular work that has been shared by the devs of this community!

mikey7436 said:
According to the samsung facebook page it says they will get 2.3. They even talked about some of the improvements.
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what year did they say 2013? As others have stated Samsung has failed to deliver on 2.2 I think 2 or 3 times now and keep pushing it back.
Why would anyone have any faith that they are going to release 2.3 when they can't even get 2.2 out?

lol imagine if samsung gave us straight 2.3 and skipped froyo

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lol imagine if samsung gave us straight 2.3 and skipped froyo
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if i was samsung i'd do that.
Froyo is just known to everyone now, theres hundreds of roms that have Froyo, might as well go on to Gingerbread.

Leaked internal Verizon screenshot with Fascinate update

Latest info on next Fascinate update:
http://erictric.com/2011/01/05/veri...e-blackberry-bold-9650-and-others-this-month/
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Arixsin said:
Latest info on next Fascinate update:
http://erictric.com/2011/01/05/veri...e-blackberry-bold-9650-and-others-this-month/
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Please be true...thanks for the info
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This just my 2 cents. I believe that the Verizon update leaked about on the 1/10 is to allow the phone to be updated by Kies. Granted, this week is CES, and Verizon is lauching new LTE phones, but I also see this as an opportunity for Samsung to announce updates to their Galaxy S lines in the US. Considering how many of these phones have sold, if there isn't an announcement at CES, there may never be one, lol. But I believe they will say something, because they want to build up the Galaxy S brands, and you really can't do that by screwing consumers out of an update for a Free Mobile OS.

It is really most likely a bug fix, hence why it's called MR2 (Maintainence Release). Most likely it's DL09. NOT froyo.

It may actually be our beloved froyo that we've been waiting for.
But honestly, I'm waiting for jt and co's gingerbread...

Who cares .... for those who don't frequent IRC, here's today's status: "You'll notice there is not AOSP status here, thats because we got the .35 kernel booting and have moved to gingerbread...have a nice day"

i would be on IRC just watching whats going on if nothing else... but i couldnt tell you how to access it lol

maybe ill get something for my birthday, (the 10th, that is)

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maybe ill get something for my birthday, (the 10th, that is)
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Ha, nice. My birthday is the 9th. I would probably guess that it is just the maintenance update, but I guess with CES this week, you never know.
It is good to know that jt is close to getting gingerbread running though, that will be pretty sweet.

xceebeex said:
Ha, nice. My birthday is the 9th. I would probably guess that it is just the maintenance update, but I guess with CES this week, you never know.
It is good to know that jt is close to getting gingerbread running though, that will be pretty sweet.
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Hehe my birthday is the 9th as well, will finally be 21. But yes it will be quite nice to see GB running, and before samsung could release it too. That is pretty sad.

devistator18 said:
Hehe my birthday is the 9th as well, will finally be 21. But yes it will be quite nice to see GB running, and before samsung could release it too. That is pretty sad.
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Ha, I am going to be 30.

I'll believe it when I see it! My sisters b-day is 1/11

devistator18 said:
Hehe my birthday is the 9th as well, will finally be 21. But yes it will be quite nice to see GB running, and before samsung could release it too. That is pretty sad.
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Not sad, just means the fascinate devs kick ass...and should be rewarded with beer and praise.
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Ha, I am going to be 30.
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Youngins
It looks like, whoever gets to it first, we're going to see some sort of update in the pretty near future.
Can't wait to see what is going to come about over the course of this month.

Samsung to update all the Galaxy S line to Gingerbread

Its official. They will begin with the European phones at mid month (arent we there already?) and then move on to the American phones. I'm guessing we'll see a leak in about a month.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/16/official-samsung-galaxy-s-and-galaxy-tab-getting-gingerbread-up/

Samsung has said that they'd step up their game with it comes to updates, and T-Mobile said they'd help push out updates faster.
I honestly think we may have a official release by the end of the month to early june.

Longcat14 said:
Samsung has said that they'd step up their game with it comes to updates, and T-Mobile said they'd help push out updates faster.
I honestly think we may have a official release by the end of the month to early june.
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Thats a lil hopeful imo, i dont expect anything until july/august at the earliest as far as a full build is concerned.

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Thats a lil hopeful imo, i dont expect anything until july/august at the earliest as far as a full build is concerned.
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Well, I really can be hopeful, since I'll also have the NS4G (getting it today), if they don't release it, I'll just play around with GB on the NS4G, and when the Vibrant gets GB, I'll have 2 amazing phones (not like the Vibrant isn't amazing now, but just not taking full advantage of it's hardware).

This is great news! Hopefully they do step up their software updates and push it out or leak it faster than we expect.

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This is great news! Hopefully they do step up their software updates and push it out or leak it faster than we expect.
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Hell, I'd rather take a leak, so that our amazing dev's can create working ROM's out of them.

Yeah a leak would come in handy. We'd get new roms and maybe some stuff fixed in CM7/MIUI. The Epic 4G had a leak not too long ago and i think there looking at another leak that one of the dev groups has. The ones that got us our leaks here in the vibrant section were Eugene373 and Krylon360, and their both gone. =(

Good news indeed... Lets just hope a leak comes early.
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Ericson4292 said:
Good news indeed... Lets just hope a leak comes early.
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*cough* leak tomorrow *cough*
I hope someone from Samsung reads this message.

Will it come to galaxy sl as well??
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thats the best news ive heard all week!!! ty so much!!!!!!! And i thought i would never see gb on this phone..

All I want is a leak so devs can make a GB rom with great battery life and stability.

Yay! can't wait to get GB

Guys, once we get this... think about it..
CM7 will be officially done.
Miui will be officially done.
MANY new stable roms.
Vibrant section will be back up to trolling again!

xriderx66 said:
Guys, once we get this... think about it..
CM7 will be officially done.
Miui will be officially done.
MANY new stable roms.
Vibrant section will be back up to trolling again!
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Binary roms will not help CM7 and miui roms with GPS because of the way Samsung calls on the GPS as compared to the way aosp calls on the GPS. This has been stated many times over, and yet still gets swept under the rug.
Even after the *kernel* source is released, it still contains nothing about GPS source.
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geoffcorey said:
Binary roms will not help CM7 and miui roms with GPS because of the way Samsung calls on the GPS as compared to the way aosp calls on the GPS. This has been stated many times over, and yet still gets swept under the rug.
Even after the *kernel* source is released, it still contains nothing about GPS source.
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GPS will probably never work for EVERYONE on the Vibrant... so might as well let it go and wait for some dev to make a mod that makes it work like Heathen's GPS fixes.
I was saying that GB would open completely new doors.
GB could help complete MIUI and CM7, as they are all Gingerbread based.
Even if it is AOSP, they have to use the things that Samsung gives.

geoffcorey said:
Binary roms will not help CM7 and miui roms with GPS because of the way Samsung calls on the GPS as compared to the way aosp calls on the GPS. This has been stated many times over, and yet still gets swept under the rug.
Even after the *kernel* source is released, it still contains nothing about GPS source.
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Very sad to read this. I was also under the impression that we'd likely have an official and fully functional Cyanogenmod build.
Oh well. Stock GB will be awesome enough if they release it.
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This GPS issue is really unfortunate. We should just have Samsung open source it..

Let's sit back and enjoy the news about Kies-bricked phones (again).