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Hey,
My Vibrant CONSTANTLY keep rescanning the media on the SD, and its slowing the phone to a crawl. Ill watch it start, finish, and then start again 30 seconds later (or so). Anyone else have this, and if so, did you find a solution?
Thanks!
Sounds buggy...mine usually just does it if I reboot the phone
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Actually my ONLY complaint about this phone not constantly but every time I reboot and it takes a good while scanning, if I try to press on any button while scanning the phone freezes, there has to be a tweak to disable this feature when vibrant roms become available..
Thats my issue too....it freezes, the screen goes off, the button backlight stays on, and I cant do anything but hard-reset it by holding the power or pulling the battery. ive deleted almost everything of the internal SD, so I have no idea why its freezing
I remove the external card and still experiencing the same thing, I just don't understand how my old HD2 with buggy winOS never did this, come on Developers Android is an awesome OS and extremely configurable, PLEASE fix this issue for us.
Mine does it on reboot and after I unplug it from my pc. It is a little annoying but it doesn't last too long.
It's scanning 16gb of memory for media changes. Why would you expect that to be faster than 20-30 seconds. Are you guys serious?
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If it's doing it constantly and not just on reboot than that is definitely a defect.
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The media scanner runs for me, at least, every time the userspace filesystem is modified, so on unplug from PC, file copy/deletes in the file manager, bluetooth unpair...etc. If you have an app that is frequently writing to /sdcard then that's probably triggering it for you.
Did you replace your SD card with one from another phone? I don't get any major scanning issues
Just exchanged the phone for a new one. Will report back.
No, I am using the stock SD card (Not ready to lose Avatar yet)
zimphishmonger said:
Just exchanged the phone for a new one. Will report back.
No, I am using the stock SD card (Not ready to lose Avatar yet)
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I know you can copy avatar to the internal memory and it will still work... but the link on the app won't find it, you'll have to go to files, ect. I'm pretty sure you can copy it to another SD card without any trouble. As far as the media scanner, it is pretty annoying...scanned alot when I first got the phone ..of course moving around avatar, it took a long time to rescan and it scanned several times. Now it seems to scan evertime I move or delete a file ...sometimes it scanns more than once but its usually pretty fast. It would be cool to change the settings to rescan only when you specify or something.
i have just over 7 gig of music on my sd card, scan after reboot lasts less than a min.
<edit> it is a class 6 card, so that might help with the speed etc...
I was messing around in /system and looked at one of the .conf files. There's a line in there for media with a value of "on". I'm sure if you edit it to "off" it'll stop scanning but who know what the negative effects would be.
Ya, I never had this media scanning on my G1, on any build. Wonder if it has something to do with the Internal SD and some sort of database it maintains of it. No idea why it wouldn't be simple flash memory though, exactly like an SD card
It's because of the Music player and such.
I'd still say try a reset. I just did and things (besides the GPS which is not going to be fixed by this) like the market and such aren't giving me such long loading screens. I was installing 3-5 apps at a time. Even the Friends feed widget doesn't have the looooooong loading screen anymore.
zimphishmonger said:
Hey,
My Vibrant CONSTANTLY keep rescanning the media on the SD, and its slowing the phone to a crawl. Ill watch it start, finish, and then start again 30 seconds later (or so). Anyone else have this, and if so, did you find a solution?
Thanks!
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I have this same problem. Typically it will kick into the media scanning mode when opening Google Maps. The phone becomes unusable for several minutes. The screen will shut off and then comes back on close to a minute after hitting the power button. Sometimes it will display "Safe Mode" in the lower left corner.
yeah, I have an 8 gig card which is basically full and the media scanning I only notice on boot ups. And this takes very little time (20 seconds maybe).
I'm curious if you have a corrupt file or app that is causing the issue man?
Have you moved avatar to your computer, stuck the SD card in your PC and formatted it? I wonder if you put it back in your phone and rebooted if you would still have this issue?
Worse case you just move the folder with avatar back to the card, nothing lost.
Do you mind trying a format?
Someone should try the "Autostarts" app. I would try it, but it requires a rooted phone, and mines not rooted yet. This app may be able to prevent the media scanning...
http://www.androidcentral.com/android-quick-app-autostarts
Thanks for the tips. I have wiped, exchanged phones, wiping the internal and external SD, and attempted to prevent the scan using autostarts (although I didnt find anything specific), all w/o luck. Ive removed ALL my music from my internal SD, only pictures are left.
It seems to scan every few minutes or so, and it almost always causes a restart of the Touchwiz process (w/ a reload of all the widgets) and lags the phone a lot (so much that it doesnt respond to button touches for a minute or so)
Im about ready to dig in and disable this scan unless we can find a legitimate fix or purpose for it.
It went from extremely rarely doing it to three or four times just the other night in the span of a few hours. I can't reproduce it on command but it happens when I lock the screen and put it in my pocket. Then sometimes when I take it out it is entirely non-responsive, even the power button doesn't work. I have to remove and reinsert the battery.
It could be ADW Launcher or WidgetLocker since those are the only two programs always running, but I was hoping someone else experiences a similar issue. It hasn't happened when I normally lock it yet though, so it could also be the proximity sensor maybe?
Having the same issue (on Bell as well), but not running either of those two apps. Was almost to the point of returning the phone and then installed JM7 and it's been better, although not perfect. Last night it locked up with NoLED displaying an icon, so I've deleted that app to see if that's the issue. It hasn't locked up today, but it did reboot a few hours ago seemingly at random. :shrug:
Your internal sd card might be failing like all the other i9000m phones I see on this forum bricking themselves .
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Your internal sd card might be failing like all the other i9000m phones I see on this forum bricking themselves .
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Oh, that doesn't sound pleasant at all...
I'm outside of Bell's 30 day exchange period plus I've talked for over 30 minutes, so I'll have to go through Samsung if it completely breaks. On the plus side, a phone from them should be three button recoverable.
Although I can't be without a phone for weeks, I hope it's not the SD card.
Mine Lags like crazy once every few days till the point I need to restart it. Any idea why this is do?
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Hold your horses people....
before you jump about the lag, and or one click lag fix and such
first you have to investigate what is running on your phone.
just over the weekend (since XDA was down) i stalled over 400 Apps
my phone slowed down to snail speed, then i ran my Startup Manager software (many to choose from)
I suggest Startup Cleaner 2.0 then uncheck everything, leave only the apps that you want to run during start up
reboot your phone and presto, fast as new!
if you can find version 2.1 of startup manager that one is even better
keep note, start up manager apps are not the same as task killer apps
it only run once during start up, and it helps you easily select what should and should not run during start up, so it doesn't stay in memory after it runs
on the same topic
you should also configure your Task Killer apps to kill everything, and add only the wants you want to be running to the ignore list.
that will keep the phone working smoothly even without the "one click lag fix"
i'm still running stock on my JH2 i9000m
AllGamer said:
Hold your horses people....
before you jump about the lag, and or one click lag fix and such
first you have to investigate what is running on your phone.
just over the weekend (since XDA was down) i stalled over 400 Apps
my phone slowed down to snail speed, then i ran my Startup Manager software (many to choose from)
I suggest Startup Cleaner 2.0 then uncheck everything, leave only the apps that you want to run during start up
reboot your phone and presto, fast as new!
if you can find version 2.1 of startup manager that one is even better
keep note, start up manager apps are not the same as task killer apps
it only run once during start up, and it helps you easily select what should and should not run during start up, so it doesn't stay in memory after it runs
on the same topic
you should also configure your Task Killer apps to kill everything, and add only the wants you want to be running to the ignore list.
that will keep the phone working smoothly even without the "one click lag fix"
i'm still running stock on my JH2 i9000m
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All gamer has a good sugestion here BUT we are going to get people flaming the fact that Android shouldnt need task managers.....
Ho hum..
TBH in my experience, I have found (after a couple of hard resets) that there appears to be a size limit for installed apps. Once I get over this size limit, I get LAGTASTIC, phone slows to a snails pace, then I remove a few of the apps and I am back at light speed again....
I cant say what the limit is, but I know when I have hit it - I would then uninstall a lame app or two and get back running.
Yes a lot of people "claims" that, but yet you do a search in Android Market, you see LOTS of Task Manager / Killer apps for every phone.
they were not designed for Galaxy S, they were designed long ago for all the other phones that had and still have the same problems of memory management causing lags
Android is not robust enough to survive without one
heck not even Windows 7 or Windows Mobiles phone
I just read that possibly the phone freezes while trying to find a signal. As this problem has only recently started, and I just recently moved into university, and many buildings receive little to no wireless signal, I think it's more than a coincidence. I'll try going to plane mode before entering lecture halls and basements.
Frostshock said:
I just read that possibly the phone freezes while trying to find a signal. As this problem has only recently started, and I just recently moved into university, and many buildings receive little to no wireless signal, I think it's more than a coincidence. I'll try going to plane mode before entering lecture halls and basements.
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i don't think that is the case with the Galaxy S
however back then my Treo 650 did suffer from that.
if you believe that is the problem then try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7999389&postcount=28
more cool apps here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7999389
I have searched through XDA and read all the threads regarding the 'suspend process' issue. The specific issue is outlined in Issue # 11126 on the Google Code/Android project home...
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=11126
I am trying to get to the bottom of this, as best as possible. For all intents and purposes, this really appears to be a mystery. Ultimately, it appears as though there is (currently) absolutely no specific reason a to why 'suspend' runs wild until the device is rebooted.
My question is (I know we can all only speculate):
Is there any chance that this could be Google account-specific?
The reason I ask is, I've been doing some "testing," just to try and make sense of this for myself. Here is what I've done/come across thus far...
- My fiancee's first MT4G was a black one manufactured in Taiwan. It had the inferior LCD-SH-C2 screen. Her battery was draining VERY quickly - i.e. before noon, without using the phone for much else other than texting.
- I enabled USB Debugging for her, to "rule out" the init process issue.
- Even though she only had Handcent, Facebook and Angry Birds installed, I removed all of them, leaving only Watchdog.
- I factory reset her phone, twice.
- For all of the above, the device was not rooted. I have since rooted her phone via the steps in this thread.
I'm in the process of creating a new Gmail account for her, exporting ONLY her contacts and then using that account for her new MT4G (Plum) that's scheduled to arrive today. I'm actually thinking of NOT using her new Gmail account at first though, so I can use her original Google account on this new, clean device and see if the suspend issue persists.
I might just be wasting my time, but I enjoy doing this and I don't think it's a complete waste to try and find SOME constant here. Am I nuts for thinking it's tied to the Google account? The Google account seems to be a black box of sorts. There is more than just contacts, apps and settings, yet there is no "window" into everything else that comes down - e.g. I can't log in to Gmail and "configure" it to not restore her wallpaper or WiFi settings. So that's why I say it's a black box of sorts, since it's doing more in the background than we have control over.
Nothing is truly random, at least not in the context of Android and the hardware affected. There has to be some reason why users of various devices, either do or do not experience this issue. Whether it's a specific action or the something that differs between one person's action vs. another person's, there has to be SOMETHING that's triggering this on her device, yet never triggers it on mine. I guess I'm just trying to flush everything out and hope that discussing it will help rule out/rule specific variables.
Let me know what you find. This is driving me crazy! I charge my phone at night, so when I head to work it's at 100%. By the time I'm heading home (4-430pm)... the phone is around 15% battery.
Watchdog tells me suspend ranges from 5%-49% at any given time. I've never had suspend drop below 5% except on fresh reboot. I've noticed, though, after a reboot that the suspend process will slowly work its way back up to using lots of CPU cycles (it starts at, say, .2%, then 10 minutes later its 3%... 30 minutes later its 5%... an hour later its 9%). Battery just gets hotter and hotter due to this.
I'll be checking back to see what you find! Thanks!
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Let me know what you find. This is driving me crazy! I charge my phone at night, so when I head to work it's at 100%. By the time I'm heading home (4-430pm)... the phone is around 15% battery.
Watchdog tells me suspend ranges from 5%-49% at any given time. I've never had suspend drop below 5% except on fresh reboot. I've noticed, though, after a reboot that the suspend process will slowly work its way back up to using lots of CPU cycles (it starts at, say, .2%, then 10 minutes later its 3%... 30 minutes later its 5%... an hour later its 9%). Battery just gets hotter and hotter due to this.
I'll be checking back to see what you find! Thanks!
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According to XDA and Issue #11126, you're not alone.
What's really bugging me is that neither my first MT4G, nor its 1st replacement or its 2nd replacement, have ever done this. My fiancee's first phone did this. She is now using my 2nd replacement while she waits for hers to arrive (today). So a device that never exhibited this issue, over the course of at least a week of normal-for-me use, started exhibiting this issue for my fiancee maybe a day or so after using the phone.
I thought I had "solved" it when I didn't see it crop up the first day she used my replacement phone. She was quick to let me know I was incorrect.
So I've got serious pressure here - all of my MT4G's haven't exhibited the out of control 'suspend process' issue while I was using the devices, but with her, it does. <queue the jokes>
We own our own business, so we're in the same room all day long while we use our phones. I was the first to tell her, "it's something you're doing." I'm only repeating myself by saying that I blamed it on an app she installed or something she "did" to cause it. After factory resetting, what...2, 3 times...I'm starting to forget; after checking the apps that are installed (and removing all of them); after verifying every setting from USB Debugging, screen brightness, account sync, etc. I seem to at least be able to say, "every single setting, shortcut, widget, app or usage pattern, does not produce the issue on any device I have used with my Google account, whereas it does with my fiancee."
That's the most difficult part to get absolute - the usage pattern. She's doing such basic things though, but I know that even the slightest of difference can produce different results.
I will most certainly report my results, futile or not.
The only common denominator I've noticed so far is that it only affects Sense UI devices.
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The only common denominator I've noticed so far is that it only affects Sense UI devices.
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That seems to be the constant, to a degree. I'm seeing people state that they're having this issue on anything from the Samsung Galaxy S (i9000) to a Nexus running Cyanogen 6.1. That's people stating it though, so I'm not sure if they're actually experiencing the same issue or not.
I am biting my tongue, but I think I found another common denominator...I am going to post back in a coupla days once I've seen it last for this entire week.
hi,
i'm running cyanogenmod 6.1 on a desire hd and have been experiencing the suspend process problem exactly as described in this thread a nubmer of times now over the last week. so its definately not limited to devices running sense.
the only circumstances this behavior hasnt shown is when running 2g only with all other sorts of communications and sync off
zero_oli said:
hi,
i'm running cyanogenmod 6.1 on a desire hd and have been experiencing the suspend process problem exactly as described in this thread a nubmer of times now over the last week. so its definately not limited to devices running sense.
the only circumstances this behavior hasnt shown is when running 2g only with all other sorts of communications and sync off
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Yeah, it didn't seem 100% related to devices running Sense, so thanks for posting back to this.
My fiancee was experiencing this across her first two MT4G devices and has yet to experience the issue on her third and final MT4G. I want to see it run the rest of the week though before I share, but the issue did pop-up for her pretty much within 24-48 hours on her first two MT4G's.
Shlongwoodian: I have been following your posts as the "suspend" process has been affecting me since I received my phone the first day available. However, I am reluctant to send for a replacement as all else is great on the unit I have and there seems no gaurantee that a new phone fixes this issue.
I have tried Tmo and HTC and both seem clueless; therefore, I appreciate your research and look forward to any "fix" short of waiting for Gingerbread.
Anyone have any wisdom to pass on? This issue is driving me crazy! I've noticed it most on my black MT4G (w/the good screen) after browsing the web, youtube or using the media player. My wife's red MT4G (w/the inferior screen) has had no issues and her battery is amazing! The first day she got her phone her battery lasted 24 hours without even conditioning it! Granted she doesn't use it like I do mine, but it is still a huge difference. When this issue comes up on mine, I'm dead within 3-4 hours. I have Watchdog set so when it alerts me I just soft reset. That clears it up until it decides to come back at random intervals. It usually doesn't come back until I open the browser, etc. With as much as I use my phone (I am constantly on the road), it becomes a major pain to have to constantly monitor battery life. Any help is greatly appreciated!!!
Man, I am sorry to report that I gots nothin'. Ok, here was my original theory...
I was speculating that "something" inside the Google/Gmail account was the cause. My reasoning being, essentially, your info is stored in a database. When you get an Android device, that online database is synced locally with the phone's database. We each have different databases and there is more than just your apps, Market links, contacts, etc. I never exhibited the /suspend issue on phones that she experienced the /suspend issue on. I figured it was database-specific.
If a table contains a value, or rather, does not contain a specific value (or if columns are missing, etc.), it can cause an application to respond in a negative way. Sometimes, this causes an error to bubble up in an application. Other times, it doesn't. In my experience, I've seen much more subtle issues in databases, that don't cause errors or a crash, but instead just cause "undesirable results."
When my fiancee got her final, good replacement Plum Glacier, we started with a completely new Google account. We thought we nailed it, when a handful of days passed without seeing /suspend get out of control, leading to Android System and/or OS sucking down battery life. I think it was nearly a week into it and one day while she was out, she realized she lost battery life really quickly - i.e. left the house with 90% and by the time she got to the store, shopped for a bit and looked, her phone was down to like 30-40%. She knows how to check for /suspend and it was, of course, back.
It's still not something that can be completely ruled out, since it's not a very air-tight test. There could be something about my Google account (which I've had pretty much since Gmail beta was available) that's keeping me (and others like me) from getting it or that idea could be crap.
For some reason, I have never, ever seen this happen on my Glacier(s) running stock 2.2.1. Phones that I never saw the issue on, she saw the issue on. There is so much speculation around it, but it just seems like "some people" don't experience it and "some people" do. It's all over different devices, different skill levels, etc. No apps, same apps, whatever and it happens to some but not others.
Sorry to get anyone's hopes up. I'll keep looking for differences/similarities though and if I find anything at all I'll - or if anyone else finds anything, no matter how ridiculous it sounds (yes, we've tested the 'rock' and it doesn't appear to suffer from the /suspend issue) - post it here.
Thanks for trying! It was a good theory. So . . . now what? Is there any way to get this ranked higher with Google, HTC, etc. to get more people working on it? It is really driving me nuts! It mainly happens after I use the web browser, then put the phone on standby for some reason. I can't even use the browser any more without needing to reboot it to save battery life. There is another thread, but specifically for the Evo and I think one for the Nexus one, all with the same problem. What if a new thread were started that is not device specific? That way we can get more people to star it and maybe Google or whoever will pay more attention to it! I would hate to think that we are stuck with this problem until when and if we get upgraded to 2.3. I would suggest rooting and flashing a new ROM, but even those with custom ROM's are having the same problem, so that's not going to help. Thoughts???
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It mainly happens after I use the web browser, then put the phone on standby for some reason.
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It truly is a mystery to this day. I've seen people say, "it happened right after I installed Handcent" or "it happens as soon as I do..." No one has come up with any concrete evidence thus far.
My fiancee has Handcent, I have Handcent. I used Handcent heavily, never had an issue. She stopped using Handcent - still has the issue. We've gotten so granular in our troubleshooting, we're literally tracking every step. LOL i.e. I pressed the trackpad to wake the phone, once; I unlocked the phone, I swiped my thumb once to view my Watchdog Widget on the screen to the left of my homescreen, etc., etc., etc.
So, for now, we just wait? My phone (and all previous phones) have been just fine. My fiancee however...yeah, I'm trying to find a fix pretty quickly.
One common theme that I've seen with this issue is that it only happens after I put the phone to sleep. I have never seen it crop up while actually using the phone. Maybe we're going about it the wrong way in trying to identify an app, etc that's causing the problem... perhaps it is simply the code involved in putting the phone to sleep and that's why there hasn't been any consistency with what one does to make it appear. In your experience, have you ever seen or heard of it showing up while the phone is being used? Perhaps it's just on mine that it works that way, but I thought it was worth mentioning. I know nothing about code or how android works so please forgive the noob comment if this is an obvious one. Merry Christmas!
I've got this problem big time. Returned my first phone because I thought it was the phone. First few days were good but lately its back and as bad as ever. First thoughts were angry birds twitter or wifi but I have no idea. If I can't figure this out I might have to sell this phone.
I will try to post some more thoughts. I think you're onto some good ideas here.
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(Re-posting from the developer's Google blog where others are following this issue): Interesting about using the phone without a Google account. Not sure if this is relevant or not, but I've noticed something else with consistency. Granted I wasn't able to document the behavior through system panel at the time, but this has consistently happened. When suspend goes crazy, I can get it to stop simply by charging the phone! Even if I charge the phone for a few seconds, then unplug, it stays dormant without having to reboot. Noob speaking here but perhaps the part of android that actually logs the battery usage is suspending when the phone goes to sleep? When it us charging, this log is reset and clears the process from running. If this is even possible, then could someone write an app that clears this system log? Maybe by mimicking what happens when the phone is charging, we can at least temporarily clear the issue without the need tovl reboot? Again, I know nothing about all this so sorry if this is all irrelevant. Just sharing what I've noticed to be consistent. Thoughts??
Also, I saw on another xda blog (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=870557&page=2) that someone linked this issue to a corrupt photo on the sd card. After formatting the card and restoring some files, says the issue has not returned!
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Also, I saw on another xda blog (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=870557&page=2) that someone linked this issue to a corrupt photo on the sd card. After formatting the card and restoring some files, says the issue has not returned!
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I wonder if you're on to something with the SD card. I've been thinking I haven't seen the suspend issue return on my phone in quite a while. I just realized that the only thing I've really changed is installed a new 16 gb SD card. Since then, no suspend process problems. For those who are having the problem still, I wonder if removing or formatting their cards would show any improvement? Worth a shot if at least to eliminate another possible factor.
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That's cool that this thread is flushing out other ideas and possible variables. I like the idea of connecting it to the charger for a couple of seconds, but my fiancee is so used to just rebooting her phone each morning and sometimes again by mid-day, that it's easier for her to do just that.
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Even if I charge the phone for a few seconds, then unplug, it stays dormant without having to reboot.
Also, I saw on another xda blog (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=870557&page=2) that someone linked this issue to a corrupt photo on the sd card. After formatting the card and restoring some files, says the issue has not returned!
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I like the microSD Card notion. This is such a weird issue, that it's so easily associated with other items - e.g. applications, usage patterns, etc. This seems feasible though, but the only way to know for sure is to reproduce it. My fiancee experiences the suspend issue daily, if she doesn't reboot regularly. So, I should be able to take her microSD card and use it in my phone and get the suspend issue. I don't want to 'muddy' up by swapping microSD cards, so I'll try reformatting her card and see if that makes any difference. She usually sees the issue within 24-48 hours of a fresh boot, so it shouldn't be long before we see if that fixes it or not. I can check the card for errors, etc. as well.
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I just realized that the only thing I've really changed is installed a new 16 gb SD card. Since then, no suspend process problems.
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I'll be upgrading to a 16 GB Class 10 soon, so I can give her my Samsung if need be. I'd really like to see if this is it though. It would explain the "some people get it and some people don't" pattern.
I also noticed that the minute I plug the phone in the problem goes away. Not sure why, just confirming it happens to me too. I also should note that when I returned my phone, they popped my old SD card into my new phone. So if there is an SD card issue with a corupt file/photo that could be something as well. I wonder woody if your girlfriends phone has had the same SD card after how many times did you say you traded it in? BTW, a side note, how did you exchange it so many times? After I took mine back to the store on day 14 they told me I wasn't able to exchange it again.
I do have a 16GB SD card but just haven't had time to install it. Wanted to double check which things I need on the new one from the old one, but it might be a good way to test this issue. Let me know some ideas before I swap the cards and maybe I can help test this.
Also, one more thing, what is the app you're using to log stuff? I'm just using Watchdog Lite right now.
I've got to figure this out or this is a dealbreaker for me. I have waited 3 years to upgrade phones, first time on Android, really wanted iPhone but wanted to stick with month to month from TMob. If this continues I think I will move to Windows Phone 7 or iPhone if I have to, but I really like this phone when the battery is not draining like a leech.
Thanks.
werk,
Just wondering what process you went through when you upgraded SD cards. Did you copy any files over to the new one or just start blank?
Thanks.
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werk,
Just wondering what process you went through when you upgraded SD cards. Did you copy any files over to the new one or just start blank?
Thanks.
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Just straight copied the existing files over from the old card to new one (new one in phone connected via USB, old card in SD adapter in my laptops SD card slot). I think some Angry Birds files didn't make it due to long paths, but reinstalled it and no problems since then.
Problem 1:
I've just rooted my nexus-s and I'm not sure whether it's due to rooting or a software conflict with apps installed on the device that's not compatible with android 2.3, but I'm experiencing quite a frequent phone reboot while I am in the middle of an active call.
Is there a way to capture the log of the phone's function and see what's causing the reboot?
Are anyone experiencing this problem as well?
Problem 2:
I probably have only used 240 Mb of the USB storage, and it shows that I have 13Gb free. However, when I put the check boxes beside the applications that can be moved to the USB storage (i.e. native apps2sd), I seem to have surpassed the limit allowed for moving the app for USB storage. I've got 21 apps that can be moved, but it won't allow me to move the 21st app. Error message says "[! Move Application] Failed to move application. There is not enough storage left." I've tried checking and unchecking boxes of different applications, and it has nothing to do with the 20 apps limit, but rather it's the amount of memory being moved to the USB storage
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Well I have 23 apps on my USB storage, and I have the Voodoo Root kernel as well. It shows 2.1gb used, 11gb free.
I did notice a 'soft reboot' earlier today but it wasn't during a call, don't know what caused it but yeah. Honestly if I were you and the problem persists just reformat and start over.
Im having the same phone reboot problem as you during phone calls. I thought it was due to an app called Screebl being incompatible, but i just made a test call and it rebooted after about 18 minutes. Im going through my apps to see what else effects the phone state during phone call.
Ive heard of some people having problems with google maps causing problems during phone calls, or sprint nav (but we dont have sprint nav) So im going to try shutting down maps, and uninstalling my task killer, which i also heard can cause problems.
Have you been able to figure anything out? I really dont want to have to reset my phone and lose all my save data information from my games. My phone is not rooted, and i dont plan on rooting yet, so i cant use titanium backup for my data.
Phone only Reboots during active phone call, i can play games or surf the web on it all day long with no reboots.
So software issue in android 2.3, or some kind of app incompatibility im thinking
you can capture the log with adb logcat command, or download a logcat app from the Market http://www.appbrain.com/search?q=logcat
Why are you bothering with apps2sd? The Nexus S shares the Galaxy S line's hugh, I mean HUGE, 1GB of "disk" space for apps. I've got almost 100 apps on my phone and not a hint of low space. See the screen capture I've attached: 284mb used for apps, 724mb still free!
oh crap! please let it not be the same problem as in the SGS i9000m
that's one of the sign before the internal SD goes belly up
AllGamer said:
oh crap! please let it not be the same problem as in the SGS i9000m
that's one of the sign before the internal SD goes belly up
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Didn't they switch the type of flash memory used from earlier Galaxy S phones? I saw some discussion about it not being movinand any longer, or at least some sort of physical difference between what the NS has vs the SGS line.
distortedloop said:
Why are you bothering with apps2sd? The Nexus S shares the Galaxy S line's hugh, I mean HUGE, 1GB of "disk" space for apps. I've got almost 100 apps on my phone and not a hint of low space. See the screen capture I've attached: 284mb used for apps, 724mb still free!
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Haha this may be the case, but I've inherited the habit of obsessively moving apps to sd/usb from using my Nexus One. Combined, I am using about 450MB of space for my apps at the moment. But this is a huge improvement from the Nexus One.
DumbUglyDragon said:
Haha this may be the case, but I've inherited the habit of obsessively moving apps to sd/usb from using my Nexus One. Combined, I am using about 450MB of space for my apps at the moment. But this is a huge improvement from the Nexus One.
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Oh yes, I was the same on my N1 and even EVO 4G, but once I got a Galaxy S, never even considered it.
I'll wager the nand used for the "rom" space is faster than the nand for the "sdcard", another thing to consider. You're not even half-way used up with that 450...
americancrew said:
Problem 1:
I've just rooted my nexus-s and I'm not sure whether it's due to rooting or a software conflict with apps installed on the device that's not compatible with android 2.3, but I'm experiencing quite a frequent phone reboot while I am in the middle of an active call.
Is there a way to capture the log of the phone's function and see what's causing the reboot?
Are anyone experiencing this problem as well?
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I haven't rooted my Nexus S,but i've experience the same soft reboot during call.
I have the "End call using power button" option enabled. Im not sure if i was leaning on the button when it happened, but stock doesn't have a reboot option, so its unlikely. I suspect its a OS bug, rather than a rooting issue.
Let me know if you make any progress, i've since made calls with no problems.
Psosmith82 said:
Im having the same phone reboot problem as you during phone calls. I thought it was due to an app called Screebl being incompatible, but i just made a test call and it rebooted after about 18 minutes. Im going through my apps to see what else effects the phone state during phone call.
Ive heard of some people having problems with google maps causing problems during phone calls, or sprint nav (but we dont have sprint nav) So im going to try shutting down maps, and uninstalling my task killer, which i also heard can cause problems.
Have you been able to figure anything out? I really dont want to have to reset my phone and lose all my save data information from my games. My phone is not rooted, and i dont plan on rooting yet, so i cant use titanium backup for my data.
Phone only Reboots during active phone call, i can play games or surf the web on it all day long with no reboots.
So software issue in android 2.3, or some kind of app incompatibility im thinking
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You know, I thought there were software incompatibilities too at the first place. I did not use "End call using power button". But after running the same stock rom with rooting and apps for a week, I didn't see the soft reset during the phone call. I have just installed a new rom on my nexus s, the R2 version of MoDaCo Custom ROM for the Samsung Nexus S. Running great so far. No soft resets.
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Actually, after posting this post yesterday, I did experience another soft reset whilst talking on my phone. I have the same apps that I have been running in the background, mainly: google pinyin, paypal, k-9 mail, ebay, rhapsody, google voice, bluetooth share, and swype. I am not experience the soft reset in all calls, after I have installed the R2 version of MoDaCo Custom Rom. I will post any problems again if I do see this happening again.
I did a factory reboot/restore and that seemed to take care of the soft reset during call problem.
Have made several calls without issue
Its doing it again, this phone is going back. The screen coating is already wearing off as well. Hopefully number 2 will be better.
I have yet to get one android phone that hasnt had to be exchanged once. Android phones really need to have better QC before leaving the factory.
Droid 1: 3 times (keyboard, GPS problems)
Evo: 4 times (terrible screens)
epic: 1 time (Keyboard)
Nexus: 1 time (so far) Screen Coating, Constant Reboots
Phone reboots itself during an active call.
I have been experiencing this problem and it seems to escalate in frequency. I got this Nexus S on day one when it came out. However, I have not experienced soft reboot issue until last week, after the OTA update. Since then, it keeps doing it more and more and now it's like almost every active call I make. First, I thought it's software conflict. Now, having read this whole thread, I think it's an OS issue.
I also sometimes encounter with completely losing signal. The phone can not register to any network, and I have to reboot.
One more issue is the voice search apk sometimes activates itself when I shake or move the phone.
My phone is stock, and I do not have any issue with USB storage.
I like the phone for its speed, and the contour screen. It handles most tasks very quickly, even it's still a stock phone, unrooted.
I still have it until Jan 14 to decide whether I will keep it or not. Hopefully, there are some ways to fix these issues.
Mine is restarting during calls and also when not in use. It restarted 3 times during calls within 10 days, and I witnessed it restarting by itself at least once when the phone was locked and not in use.
I have an unrooted Nexus S, which I started using yesterday. The OTA came almost immediately after setting up, so I installed that. It appeared to be working flawlessly until this evening when I made the first call on it. It rebooted a few minutes into the call. After redialing it did it again, the third call I ended without problem, but was shorter than the previous two. A few mins later I made some test calls and it rebooted during both of them.
I did a factory reset and wipe of USB storage - I didn't bother adding my Google account and just made a test call which lasted 13 mins before I hung up.
I'll have to make some more calls tomorrow and if they work, I'll try adding my Google account and restoring stuff.
I had this same thing happen to me quite a few times reboot during a call or locking up after a call. I work to a company and we purchased three phones. So I switched with another one and guess what? Same problem definitely looking like a software problem.
This just happened to me for the 1st time a little bit ago. About 35 mins into the call/conversation, phone rebooted itself. Non-rooted here, I hope it's a software issue, that can be corrected within the next OTA update.
Are the spontaneously rebooting phones possibly overheating? Do they feel warmer to the touch than normal when it happens?
distortedloop said:
Are the spontaneously rebooting phones possibly overheating? Do they feel warmer to the touch than normal when it happens?
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While I cannot speak for anyone else having this issue, in my case - no. The phone didn't get warmer, or seem to overheat. Odd issue to say the least.
Stock ROM (2.3.1) here as well. Just had it reboot 10 minutes into a call, then one minute into the following call to apologise for the first dropped call!
Hi guys,
I just purchased a Galaxy Note 3 a week ago. However, I'm noticing that this phone has a major problem (at least, I consider it a problem). Turning the screen on and off has a bit of a delay.
To show what I mean I made this video in which I use a Desire HD to compare it with.
You can clearly see that the Desire HD turns on and off immediately, however.. the fancy Note 3 has to wake up, make a pot of coffee, read the morning news and then decides to switch on the screen.
Is this just my phone? Do more people experience this? Why does my phone do this?
I don't have a second Note 3 and I'm waiting for somebody to test it with. So I'd like to know how other Note 3 owners experience this.
There are many other things about this phone that really disappoint me, but this is one of the things that annoy me the most.
(p.s. I already tried a factory reset, didn't chance a thing...)
Thanks you for any replies/help.
supervinnie40 said:
Hi guys,
I just purchased a Galaxy Note 3 a week ago. However, I'm noticing that this phone has a major problem (at least, I consider it a problem). Turning the screen on and off has a bit of a delay.
To show what I mean I made this video in which I use a Desire HD to compare it with.
You can clearly see that the Desire HD turns on and off immediately, however.. the fancy Note 3 has to wake up, make a pot of coffee, read the morning news and then decides to switch on the screen.
Is this just my phone? Do more people experience this? Why does my phone do this?
I don't have a second Note 3 and I'm waiting for somebody to test it with. So I'd like to know how other Note 3 owners experience this.
There are many other things about this phone that really disappoint me, but this is one of the things that annoy me the most.
(p.s. I already tried a factory reset, didn't chance a thing...)
Thanks you for any replies/help.
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I think that something is wrong with your phone, my wakes up almost emmediately
supervinnie40 said:
Hi guys,
I just purchased a Galaxy Note 3 a week ago. However, I'm noticing that this phone has a major problem (at least, I consider it a problem). Turning the screen on and off has a bit of a delay.
To show what I mean I made this video in which I use a Desire HD to compare it with.
You can clearly see that the Desire HD turns on and off immediately, however.. the fancy Note 3 has to wake up, make a pot of coffee, read the morning news and then decides to switch on the screen.
Is this just my phone? Do more people experience this? Why does my phone do this?
I don't have a second Note 3 and I'm waiting for somebody to test it with. So I'd like to know how other Note 3 owners experience this.
There are many other things about this phone that really disappoint me, but this is one of the things that annoy me the most.
(p.s. I already tried a factory reset, didn't chance a thing...)
Thanks you for any replies/help.
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Something up there mate my phone is on soon as i press the button
my guess is ...
that its "some form of lag" caused by an app ??
have you got Svoice enabled ? /
or otherwise its some "app setting "( eg a launcher/camera )
that power button functions , is also assigned to and causes delay ??
Further have you check Svoice settings ?
it does sometimes cause lag as it waits for second press on "home button "
i disabled it completely /otherwise uncheck in S voice settings.
have you tried to wake phone with home button press,not power button.?( any lag ? )
i use Sview cover to open cover and note 3 wakes up straight away !(use no power button at all )
but if i press power button ,wakes up ....immediately !
same with me pressing home button,wakes up ..immediately.!
(No lag at all .)
(but above then,is my experience in tracking " cuplits/apps " responsible for various lags on my phone
The result is my phone is very, very smooth ,no lags or hiccups....
I have the N9005 ,stock, not rooted .
good luck.
Thanks for the replies guys.
I don't have any launcher apps running. I like to keep things smooth and optimized, so I turn off everything I don't need. No Air Gesture, No Svoice etc.
I've been playing with this the last week, and haven't really been able to find anything.
However, I just wanted to delete some stuff and reset some settings and removed my SD card to be safe. Since I removed the card, it seems the screen reacts a bit faster....
But does that make any sense? Could there be anything that could cause this lag/delay that has to do with the SD card?
My current card is a 16gb class 2. But I can't find any info on why the phone would slow down when a slow SD card is used.... Just doesn't make much sense.
In the meantime I continue testing and trying. Others have said that there might be something wrong with my phone, but when I compare stuff with other Note 3 tests, then it all seems ok. Installing an app takes the same time, opening a heavy app too, starting up is just as fast and even after a full factory reset everything seems to be fine.
Mine has a bit of a delay too...I was wondering if it was only me. With mine it's pretty erratic though - sometimes it takes a full second or so to activate the screen, while other times it comes on almost instantly.
I did notice on many occasions using the home button to wake is quicker, plus it's generally easier to get to one handed.
p.s. do you have the Verizon variant?
Good to read that somebody else noticed this to.
In the mean time I have been testing some more. After disabling almost anything that could have to do with either cpu usage or lockscreen usage, removing the SD card, removing the sim card, deleting many apps and using a very low res image, the phone becomes almost as quick as the Desire HD.
There is still a difference, the Note 3 is still a tiny little bit slower, but it has been improved.
However, if I need to do all this radical stuff to make a 2.3 ghz powerhouse perform the same as a 4 year old 1 ghz calculator.... then this phone is just not worth the money I spent on it.
Very, very dissapointed.
After my testing I applied all my previous settings, apps and such to a phone from my friend. Just like you said (siciliano) there is a noticable delay. An erratic delay, but still noticable. Sometimes it's really quick, other times it's really slow.
My Desire HD has never shown any delay... not even when I'm downloading 5 apps at the same time (which makes it quite slow).
This phone will go on for sale tomorrow. I'm not gonna spent 600 euro on a toy that can't perform the way it should.
p.s. No, it's not a Verizon phone. I bought the phone, without phone-plan or anything. Just the phone itself.
Hi,
I think it's very safe to assume that if you think there's a problem then there likely is. Sometimes you have to turn the question round or switch focus... scratch your head all day about 99 maybes yet you have 1 factor that swings it.
Certainly when it comes to testing leave things out like memory cards or SIMs. Sounds like you have and it's not happy. All might not be lost though. Perhaps the stock firmware didn't load well. Have you tried updating OTA or via Kies or Odin? And was the device bought from a regular vendor?
Jonty.
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I just checked mine - same delay. So I restarted it. Now no delay.
@jonty, I got the phone from a well known Dutch re-seller (phonehouse). Unfortunately my results and/or problems seem to be repeatable, which makes me believe that it's not just my phone.
I h aven't used any other ROMs, but I did give it a factory reset (twice in 2 weeks...) and I have swiped the cache. Both did not make a difference.
Even better, right after the reset, the delay is bigger then when I optimize the settings (which means turning pretty much anything and everything off... stripping down the phone via settings).
@Bulbous, how did it take you to get the delay back again. I've tried restarting a few times, but after +/- 5 minutes the delay was the same again.
I just don't understand why a powerhouse like this phone has so much trouble with such a simple thing....
It's like asking Einstein to tell me 1+1=? and then he has to take his calculator out....
If you experience lag like this something is wrong. Note 3 should have no lag at all. I have about 150 user apps adding to the stock apps and have never experienced any lag whatsoever.
If you do, you have fu..ed up your phone somehow..
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slight delay like 0.5 sec to 1 sec is ok cos it is normal as the phone required to enter deep sleep. (google to understand it)
any more than that might be faulty software or hardware.
if i were to encounter such problem, i will first remove the sdcard and reboot..if not fixed, then format.. without sdcard inserted, reboot and try again.
if not fixed, then i would send to SC ask them check.
the reason i remove sdcard because the phone might still scanning in the background.
Hi,
Although unfortunate it might just be that the device is defective. Although it's new it can still happen.
But before you go the repair/replace route you should at least consider installing any OS updates if there are any and perform a complete wipe. Then see how it performs before installing any memory cards or other software. Perhaps also install a system info app (afterwards) and make sure the chip, cores and other spec are what they should be as fakes do exist.
Jonty.
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try this method maybe will help u http://forums.androidcentral.com/sa...-note-3-lags-sometimes-slow-here-how-fix.html
Something is wrong it shouldn't be that slow, comment above is useless as it's not an animation.
Flash the latest stock firmware - if that doesn't help I'm clueless to what could cause this.
Its the sd card...I used a class 2 and I had lags..changed to a new class 10 and everything was instantaneous
Teleported from my SM-N9005 from the Enterprise
dcracks said:
Its the sd card...I used a class 2 and I had lags..changed to a new class 10 and everything was instantaneous
Teleported from my SM-N9005 from the Enterprise
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Can anyone confirm this? This could very well be the problem because I know for a fact my sd card is very old.
I'm gonna buy a new 64GB sd card soon anyway, so I'll make sure it's fast.
I had some delay when turning the screen on/off, but im pretty sure that something was corrected in one of the multiple firmware updates that i have installed because i don't have it any more.
tWoBrO said:
I had some delay when turning the screen on/off, but im pretty sure that something was corrected in one of the multiple firmware updates that i have installed because i don't have it any more.
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Just out of curiosity, are you rooted? How did you go about updating?
Thanks!
My phone is not rooted, I'm using stock room. I was talking about official Samsung firmware updates. Running version MJ7.