Hi !
I would like to warn everybody that the use of the permanent root option of visionary can lead to an unrecoverable brick!
Lately we are facing an increasing number of bricked phones that have been created by an attempt to permanent root the G2 (or Desire Z) using visionary.
While there is still cure for Desire Z phones (even if it is a complicated procedure) there are certain conditions for the G2 where nothing can be done to rescue the phone.
These are the conditions:
- the phone is S-ON and not SuperCID
- the hboot and the recovery are still stock
- the main software version is 1.22
When visionary corrupts the system partition (which it does some times) the phone can not boot anymore. And as there is no original stock rom (PC10IMG.zip) for the G2 that has software version 1.22 or higher the stock rom can not be installed from hboot.
And with the stock recovery there is also no chance to cure the system partition or change the main version in the misc partition.
But even if the brick can be cured for other phones (Desire Z, Desire HD) this is totally unnecessary because the phones can be rooted and freed by methods that do not have any risk at all (even if you do some steps wrong).
The method that I highly recommend to use is the one described on the XDA-wiki at http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD.
This method is constantly maintained and is the most up to date method.
If you really are not able or willing to use adb I would recommend the method described by ianmcquinn in the thread "[GUIDE] Permanent Root with Visionary/gfree (No ADB Required)" at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=928160
It is less up to date but it uses visionary only to gain temporary root and it uses scripts for the necessary commands so that the risk of bricking the phone by typos in important commands is minimized.
Scotty2 and I (and a lot of other people) tried our best to make the rooting process as easy and risk less as possible and therefore it is very frustrating to see people who bricked their phones by using an unnecessary, outdated and risky method.
Thanks and have fun - Guhl
Update 05/15/2011:
Since football dropped the new gingerbread T-Mobile ROM (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074391) a G2 bricked by visionary can be cured. (which is a complicated procedure of course)
I think this is/should already stickied however no one seems to read stickies... Thanks for posting the warning again though.
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On my first G2 I used the visionary method and it messed up after about 2 weeks.
It wouldn't connect to the wireless network.
On my second G2 I used the gfree/rage method and, it has worked just fine.
I'm sure with all the visionary problems people are having, it probably had something to do with mine going bad.
I am waiting on an insurance replacement G2, glad I found this. I rooted mine the very first method that was posted. So does Visionary have a checkbox in the app or something to permanent root? I was using the first release of it.
:edit Just got my G2 from UPS at 1:20, and now at 1:50 I am already flashing CM7 Visionary is great, glad I saw not to do Perm Root attempt though haha
dumb? question
i rooted my g2 a few weeks back, installed the cyanogenmod 7(which seems solid btw) & honestly dont remember the method i used (it took multiple tries over multiple posts/guides/websites) but i recall visionary was involved at some point.
anyhow should i be worried about this thing becoming useless? should i be reinstalling/uninstalling something? are there any precautions i should be taking? is there a way to tell what method i used?
sorry if im cluttering this thread up, i really try not to post if possible(searching usually answers my dumb questions) THANKS! tho
If you're already rooted you should be good. The method that uses VISIONary/Gfree was posted in January, the latest thing that said it could cause any problems was an update on December 23rd, and from what I understand is that you'd have to downgrade a Desire Z... Didn't say anything about a G2. I'm sitting here waiting for UPS then I'll be doing this.
hmm ok, thanks, ill continue to slowly set it up for use than & keep an eye out for additional posts/info on the subject. i sure would hate to doorstop the thing before even using it.
thanks again for the reply
The only issue I've encountered with the way I did was that it says phone number unknown. Quick xda search found you go into Call settings, additional settings, and you can set the phone number in there
Well, I used the Visionary + gfree way to permanent root today, and it went smoothly, on the 1st try, no problems, as of yet. I ran root check and noticed that busybox isn't installed. Is it supposed to be? It was when I was using temp root. Is it ok, to install busybox from the app from the Market?
I got busy box through titanium backup "problems" button
Hi Guhl, I decided to be safe and follow your more highly recommended method to rooting my tmobile g2. This is my first time rooting a phone, the problem is I have a mac... I'm not sure it will work the same way since I don't have a pc... Do you know someway around this? Or some other way I can root my phone on my mac...
Thank you!
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Hi Guhl, I decided to be safe and follow your more highly recommended method to rooting my tmobile g2. This is my first time rooting a phone, the problem is I have a mac... I'm not sure it will work the same way since I don't have a pc... Do you know someway around this? Or some other way I can root my phone on my mac...
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It should be no problem to root your phone on a Mac. The guide to setting up adb in my signature has a section on how to do so on a Mac.
I perm rooted with visionary method the day it came out (I think this was November or October?). Was on cm 6 and now been on cm 7 for a while. No issues at all. Guess I was lucky or people are doing it without being careful.
My friend's G2 seems to be bricked under these conditions. Failed Visionary root. He's counting on me to fix it.
The recovery is stock and it has S-ON. How can I check the version?
Electrodeath0 said:
How can I check the version?
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You can't.
Just try to install the 1.19 PC10IMG.zip using hboot and you will see. If it installs you'r good if it tells you that you version is to high you are 1.22
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Whats up everyone?
OK real quick because this has had a little more insight to my situation than what i have been able to find. a guy called me up yesterday and wanted to know if i could root his g2. well apparently.... he attempted to do this on his own and used visionary and messed up his phone. bootscreen heaven. stuck on htc.
Hboot. 0.82.0
radio 26.03.02.26
SHIP S- ON
I have no control over adb.... says device is offline but at least recognized. and shows devid. is this phone a lost cause or can someone toss me a bone without telling me to read this and go here or there?
i have been searching since 5pm yesterday and it is now 1030am.
I have been able to load an update through the stock recovery and it shows that it went well. when it reboots to the screen with the grean circle arrows over the phone, it doesnt seem to take enought time to be loading image or other software. and when its done and reboots, its still stuck on htc screen.
any help would be greatly appreciated and sorry if i cluttered up this thread.
RELEVANCE::::: Visionary
SErooted,
Xperia X10
2.2 Xperia BLISS
2gig data2sd
998mhz
sysctl
2780 Quad
Wish i would have read this 3 hours ago.Tried to perm-root with vision bout 4 months ago and didnt brick, But 3 hours ago tried it again and i semi bricked/bricked it?
This blows i already miss my android .This is definitley a FML post
FMLLLLL!
well new g2x or just a New G2 here i come
I agree with this thread but back then there was only one root tool for the HTC Desire Z or G2 persay. If there is another tool I am unwilling to unroot and reroot again if possible. But I agree that Visionary++ increases the chances of a bricked phone with a percent of about 55%
Rooting a new G2
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I AM VS4 said:
I agree with this thread but back then there was only one root tool for the HTC Desire Z or G2 persay. If there is another tool I am unwilling to unroot and reroot again if possible. But I agree that Visionary++ increases the chances of a bricked phone with a percent of about 55%
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If you used Visionary, and it worked, then you don't need to worry about unrooting and rooting again. If there were going to be any problems, it would have happened as you were rooting. If you didn't run gfree, and are not Super-CID, S-Off, then you might want to do that (you still can). But otherwise, you are good to go.
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I used the info on this page: *android.modaco.com/content/htc-desire-desire-modaco-com/310873/possible-hboot-downgrade/* it didn't downgrade the hboot, but that might be something to work on.
CHANGE STEP 3.4. "change it to 1.15.405.1" don't do that, change the "2.20.502.1" in the misc.img from your aria to 1.25.502.2
Oh and you'll need either a Temp root, or a Shell root for adb
I have done this and can confirm that this works
Thanks mate!
I just noticed the Aria got 2.2 finally, albiet through this silly sync method.... It's my wifes phone, I'm sure she's not going to be happy to have to hard reset it.. wth.
Anyway, so why are you guys going back to 2.1? I am surprised not to see more discussion on 2.2 in this forum, but I don't frequent it much since I don't own the Aria myself.
khaytsus said:
I just noticed the Aria got 2.2 finally, albiet through this silly sync method.... It's my wifes phone, I'm sure she's not going to be happy to have to hard reset it.. wth.
Anyway, so why are you guys going back to 2.1? I am surprised not to see more discussion on 2.2 in this forum, but I don't frequent it much since I don't own the Aria myself.
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I went back to 2.1 because the 2.2.2 version that AT&T released was extremely slow, and my touchscreen would become unresponsive.
andrewishcool95 said:
I used the info on this page: *android.modaco.com/content/htc-desire-desire-modaco-com/310873/possible-hboot-downgrade/* it didn't downgrade the hboot, but that might be something to work on.
CHANGE STEP 3.4. "change it to 1.15.405.1" don't do that, change the "2.20.502.1" in the misc.img from your aria to 1.25.502.2
Oh and you'll need either a Temp root, or a Shell root for adb
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How do you get a temp root or shell root with the new HBoot still in-place? If temp root is possible, then can't you install clockworkmod and get permaroot?
Gene Poole said:
How do you get a temp root or shell root with the new HBoot still in-place? If temp root is possible, then can't you install clockworkmod and get permaroot?
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I got a shell root from super one click root (forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682)
after I downgraded to 2.1 I got z4root to get a temp root.
andrewishcool95 said:
I got a shell root from super one click root (forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682)
after I downgraded to 2.1 I got z4root to get a temp root.
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I'm also very curious about this.
Sounds like the first steps to rooting and downgrading. I'm curious to see if any developers catch this
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I've been reading up on this and the skinny is that the HBOOT image controls the S-ON and S-OFF flags of the NAND RAM in the device. Even with a temp root shell, you can't write to a partition with its S-ON flag set. This normally includes all the partitions on the phone except the data partition, so trying to root the device requires some sort of interaction with the HBOOT image to turn off the S-ON flag for the recovery and system partitions to properly root a phone.
In short, if and until someone hacks hboot_liberty_7227_1.02.0000_101104, your phone is unrootable.
Gene Poole said:
I've been reading up on this and the skinny is that the HBOOT image controls the S-ON and S-OFF flags of the NAND RAM in the device. Even with a temp root shell, you can't write to a partition with its S-ON flag set. This normally includes all the partitions on the phone except the data partition, so trying to root the device requires some sort of interaction with the HBOOT image to turn off the S-ON flag for the recovery and system partitions to properly root a phone.
In short, if and until someone hacks hboot_liberty_7227_1.02.0000_101104, your phone is unrootable.
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Help me out, I may be thinking in the wrong direction, but I've been dealing with my nook which is why I thought of this.
Is there not a way to write an hboot to an sd-card or connect via usb at start to make the aria think that the sd-card or the usb connection is the corrected hboot, thus being able to modify?
FroztIkon said:
Help me out, I may be thinking in the wrong direction, but I've been dealing with my nook which is why I thought of this.
Is there not a way to write an hboot to an sd-card or connect via usb at start to make the aria think that the sd-card or the usb connection is the corrected hboot, thus being able to modify?
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There may be. When I first got my Aria, the rooting procedure involved an HTC signed update that you fooled the hboot into partially loading, then swapped the sdcard with the root package. It involved some complex timing issues where you had to run adb in a loop and plug/unplug the usb cable at appropriate times.
I've been searching the net for that procedure and I can't seem to find the right search terms, or I'm just not looking in the right places or something, but I know that's how I did my Aria before there was an unrevoked plug-n-root.
I have the procedure u are looking for i think...let me know if this is what u were after because i have an archive of saved documents I have copied from forums in the past...GOOD LUCK!
well apparently i haven't posted enough to put the links up in the post
PM me if you want the process...
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PM me if you want the process...
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May I have a copy of said process? Currently the only way is to buy a very expensive hardware called XClip. I have managed to get the updated 2.2.2 Stock ROM rooted but not deodex or EXT3 FOR ap2sd trying to play with some files from another source to get hboot s off.
econcep said:
May I have a copy of said process? Currently the only way is to buy a very expensive hardware called XClip. I have managed to get the updated 2.2.2 Stock ROM rooted but not deodex or EXT3 FOR ap2sd trying to play with some files from another source to get hboot s off.
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That process does not work with the new HBOOT. That's why unrevoked doesn't work. Having root access does not unlock NAND.
Currently, the only way known is via hardware tools.
It works. I managed a work around for 2.2.2 update
Hey everyone I am in the second phase of testing my work around with the new HTC Aria update from ATT. I managed to load the update and keep my phone rooted. I am now in the setup mode with no bootloop.
Running into a couple of issues with the new radio but I believe I know how to fix that as well. Keep you all posted and once all bugs worked out I will post my findings and HOPEFULLY MY ROOTED ROM.ZIP with instructions.
IF AT FIRST YOU DON'T SUCCEED.....TRY TRY TRY and TRY I did and I am 99% there.
econcep said:
Hey everyone I am in the second phase of testing my work around with the new HTC Aria update from ATT. I managed to load the update and keep my phone rooted. I am now in the setup mode with no bootloop.
Running into a couple of issues with the new radio but I believe I know how to fix that as well. Keep you all posted and once all bugs worked out I will post my findings and HOPEFULLY MY ROOTED ROM.ZIP with instructions.
IF AT FIRST YOU DON'T SUCCEED.....TRY TRY TRY and TRY I did and I am 99% there.
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This might be the wrong thread. Did you manage to get around the HBOOT issue with the 2.2 update? If not, then you've just done the same thing I did the day after this release was out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970272
Gene Poole said:
This might be the wrong thread. Did you manage to get around the HBOOT issue with the 2.2 update? If not, then you've just done the same thing I did the day after this release was out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970272
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You are right this might be the wrong thread. But I managed a work around with the new update 2.2.2 and the HBOOT 1.0X. As soon as I can confirm without a doubt that it works and will be able to repeat the process successfully with my husband's ARIA (unfortunately we love hacking things and tend to buy multiple devices) I will be more than happy to share the results.
Again, my apologies if it's the wrong thread.
econcep said:
You are right this might be the wrong thread. But I managed a work around with the new update 2.2.2 and the HBOOT 1.0X. As soon as I can confirm without a doubt that it works and will be able to repeat the process successfully with my husband's ARIA (unfortunately we love hacking things and tend to buy multiple devices) I will be more than happy to share the results.
Again, my apologies if it's the wrong thread.
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Perhaps I misread (or we're talking past each other). You do have, in fact, HBOOT 1.02.0000 on your Aria, and managed to write to the system partition?
Yes & No. I'm stuck on couple of things. First the will temporary give me root access but then it locks up saying I don't have busybox. I'm rooted but no s-off. I also noticed when I reboot into recovery I go into CWM 2.5.0.1 but other times it boots into CWM 2.5.0.7. When that happens I loose my unknown source in settings>application. Again, if this is the wrong thread, I really am sorry.
I googled alpharev and some others who have worked on rooting. Found some cached pages from Jan when they were testing to root/s-off the Aria. Basing my work on that and couple of other devices that are similar to the Aria.
This may sound stupid, but does anyone know how to root specifically a RED mytouch 4g?? Maybe the color is intimidating or something, but I have successfully rooted 6 mytouch 4g's and not run into any problems.. I spent a week on this one to no avail. Its running 2.2.1, software number 1.17.531.2, build number 1.17.531.2 CL277036. Is there a manual way without using visionary? It wont grant me permissions even after temp root. Thanks.
try using the gfree method which is in the development section. It seems thats the only way to root the newer mytouches.
Update: Tried every single forum that appeared in the first 10 pages of google for 50 different search terms, and frankly, I'm ****ing beat.. I found a few similar topic forums, but only ONE exact build number, and everything with the SAME EXACT SYMPTOMS.. Is there really nobody out there that has tackled this debockle? I'm not sure what to do at this point, am I doomed?? I'm not a noob with this phone, but I'm not a developer or a programmer either. Anyone got any alternative root methods, other that the visionary, or flashboot methods for the exact specs on my phone??
I'm having the same issue with my red MT4G, had it since Feb. 11 Was able to root but not able to get the s-off same build and software as yours. Help Please!
tim4w5 said:
I'm having the same issue with my red MT4G, had it since Feb. 11 Was able to root but not able to get the s-off same build and software as yours. Help Please!
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Thats weird, I achieved s=off, using this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
But I can't get superuser permissions to flash the older version of the bootloader, or use gfree. What did you use to root it?
Are these MT4Gs completely stock and out of the box? When I rooted a friend's device, VISIONary wouldn't even temproot at first. He later uninstalled some app and tried VISIONary again and temproot stuck, so maybe something else on the device is getting in the way? Either that or HTC incorporated some fix, we'd need more people with brand new MT4Gs to confirm.
gfree issues
I seem to be having the same issue but when I go to "chmod 777 gfree" I get the ./gfree: permission denied error
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I seem to be having the same issue but when I go to "chmod 777 gfree" I get the ./gfree: permission denied error
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Temp root with visionary then try again. Make sure fastboot is disabled before doing it. If it doesn't temp root try an older version of visionary. I used a combo of gfree method and visionary to get root and s off
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EDIT: i replied to this while half asleep so figured i would be a little more clear.
i had the gfree permission denied error you got. so temp rooted with visionary(latest) but just froze up my phone. tried a older version and it temp rooted fine. went in to ADB got SU and threw the chmod command at it again and it went through.
hope this helps, not 100% sure it went through because of what i did but its worth a shot.
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Are these MT4Gs completely stock and out of the box? When I rooted a friend's device, VISIONary wouldn't even temproot at first. He later uninstalled some app and tried VISIONary again and temproot stuck, so maybe something else on the device is getting in the way? Either that or HTC incorporated some fix, we'd need more people with brand new MT4Gs to confirm.
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I've tried stock out of the box, used it for a while, got s=off, and it stuck even after factory resetting the phone between trying various different methods.
I agree with you regarding a patch of some sort on the software though. I've found this issue on 2 red htc glaciers now.
And although It's new, and shipped with 2.2.1, a buddy of mine goes through them like candy, and I've rooted every single one of them, no problem. even when they started shipping with 2.2.1 it wasnt an issue. So I think it's the newer manufacture build number etc with the red ones..
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Temp root with visionary then try again. Make sure fastboot is disabled before doing it. If it doesn't temp root try an older version of visionary. I used a combo of gfree method and visionary to get root and s off
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EDIT: i replied to this while half asleep so figured i would be a little more clear.
i had the gfree permission denied error you got. so temp rooted with visionary(latest) but just froze up my phone. tried a older version and it temp rooted fine. went in to ADB got SU and threw the chmod command at it again and it went through.
hope this helps, not 100% sure it went through because of what i did but its worth a shot.
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I have not tried that yet. Where can I find an older version of visionary? I looked for it on their website, but can't seem to find anything but the current version. (maybe I'm not looking hard enough) but.. Hopefully this will work
think this is the one i used. should be R11. may have been updated though, just got the link from another root method that says it r11.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7C2BMH3O
It's definitely r11, I'll try this as soon as I get home. thanks!
No problem, hope it works for you.
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I dont think It's working. I installed it, then reboot my phone, then ran the app, and At first It looked really REALLY unstable and kept flashing and doing weird things, so I rebooted again, ran it, and now it looks like it's not doing anything at all. How long did it take for your phone to say root successful, maybe I'm just being impatient.
thats what mine did. Just let it do its thing. If its to unstable to put in your commands use adb. I used adb from start to finish just cuz I find it easier.
Didn't take long. It did flash a black screen things like that. But just follow the guide you were using to a T and once you get temp root it shouldn't be a problem from there
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I'm kicking myself in the face for not documenting my method I used. I finally did it, but in such a weird way, I'm not sure exactly WHAT it was. I installed visionary 11, uninstalled r14, uninstalled superuser, and ran r11. out of frustration, I scared up some old methods for rooting 2.2, and installed z4 root.. That made it to the second stage, but froze there. So I RE-installed visionary r14, achieved a temproot, and from there flashed gfree, etc.. and eventually stuck a permaroot with s=off.. I apologize for not figuring out exactly what I was doing wrong, or what I did right to solve the problem.
****kkkkk man your slacking -______- I was looking forward to the answer I'm going crazy as well I rooted 3mt4gs in like 5min but my brothers is driving me nuts >=O
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I'm kicking myself in the face for not documenting my method I used. I finally did it, but in such a weird way, I'm not sure exactly WHAT it was. I installed visionary 11, uninstalled r14, uninstalled superuser, and ran r11. out of frustration, I scared up some old methods for rooting 2.2, and installed z4 root.. That made it to the second stage, but froze there. So I RE-installed visionary r14, achieved a temproot, and from there flashed gfree, etc.. and eventually stuck a permaroot with s=off.. I apologize for not figuring out exactly what I was doing wrong, or what I did right to solve the problem.
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sh root.sh
Im getting passed everything, but when i try to run sh root.sh it say can't open root.sh Someone please help me.
I had troubles rooting my Red Mytouch until I came across this.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=995549
Follow this to a T and then do yourself a favor and downgrade your Hboot to 0.85.2007
I rooted mine. Go here. http://theunlockr.com/2010/12/10/ho...s-off-on-the-t-mobile-mytouch-4g-htc-glacier/ took me a bit to figure it out. But on this link it tells you to update if you arnt 2.21 or higher or if you haven't received the outa update. Well I did but when I tryed this method with out the update it didn't work so update anyways. IT WORKS!
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i have a MT4G since the day it came out..i didnt know anything about rooting and stuff like that, until a friend told me about it so i came here. i didnt root my phone about 4 months after i got it. i did the visionary method and worked 1st shot thanx to mackster248. im really pissed right now. my sister just bought one a couple of days ago. well i just got done messing with the phone. and no luck..i did everything to the T. i was reading on a couple of forums about this. people have said there is different radios or some crap like that or a chip in the newer MT4G so.. i have no idea. i need help. she is complaining that the battery life sucks on it and i agree.. thats why i rooted mine. so i need help..
well there has been an issue going around lately with a bad eMMC chip, causing fail-pu errors or something of the sort. and there have been rumors of the newer mT4G's released with the bad chip, but not certain about that yet...
If your sister's phone is updated to Gingerbread - then you're out of luck. Might try Gingerbreak for temp-root instead of Visionary, maybe it'll help.
Here's a thread to watch:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1101898
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If your sister's phone is updated to Gingerbread - then you're out of luck. Might try Gingerbreak for temp-root instead of Visionary, maybe it'll help.
Here's a thread to watch:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1101898
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No she aint on gingerbread she's on 2.2.1 I was going to try the gfree method Idk
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In that case, there are 2 options:
1) You're messing something up and not following directions 100% / the directions are missing steps.
2) You're trying root.sh method and your phone has a potentially bad eMMC chip, which is why it won't root. Following true S-OFF method with gfree (look in Developers section) will root you, but be warned - your eMMC chip might fail.
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In that case, there are 2 options:
1) You're messing something up and not following directions 100% / the directions are missing steps.
2) You're trying root.sh method and your phone has a potentially bad eMMC chip, which is why it won't root. Following true S-OFF method with gfree (look in Developers section) will root you, but be warned - your eMMC chip might fail.
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Ok what can I do about the bad emmc chip can i get a replacement phone.. and what happens when i do the gfree method with a bad emmc chip. I know for sure I'm not doing it wrong on doing it the same way I did my.phone and I did my.phone.first shot. But this was.months ago when I rooted my phone
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concerning the bad eMMC chip, theres not much you can do about that right now. some members are working hard on it trying to figure things out. usually, gfree is the recommended method that works with phones with the bad chip. I would tell you to make a nandroid backup and flash the stock PD15IMG.zip, but seeing as you have the bad chip, I dont want to cause the chance of screwing anything up. you could try downloading the stock nandroid backup and restoring that through clockwork, then try rooting with gfree again. that might work...
OK.... I said f*ck it to the replacement phone.... DOn't want it... Can't root it... (besides I found out it had the ****ty screen that is manufactured in Taiwan, not China). Further, I want to root it now and I cannot do it with stock gingerbread. Sending back replacement phone today...
BUT....Unfortunately, I restored Froyo to my old phone. So now I have an unrooted phone, with Android 2.2.1.
But.... I STILL DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONNECT VIA USB TO USE ADB
I cannot use any wifi adb methods as they all require root.
I cannot use Visionary for temp root as the cyanogen root page wiki says it should be uninstalled.
Nonetheless, I copied all of the needed files to my sdcard, so I am ready....
BUT I NEED TEMP ROOT FROM THE EMULATOR.
Does anyone know how to get temp root for FROYO through the emulator only??.....OR, another Visionary type apk which will give me temp root???
Sorry can"t help on your problem, but how did you restore stock froyo? Had the same replacement prob, sent it back to T-mobile, called CS told them about issues, they're sending a MT4GSlide, call CS you might get lucky like I did
use the "how to root.sh root your phone".
i used that in the T-Mobile store to root my before i left the store when i bought the device.
Marquis63 said:
Sorry can"t help on your problem, but how did you restore stock froyo?
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The phone I restored to stock Froyo was my old phone... It was rooted already. I just wanted to restore it to a factory condition so I wouldn't have any problems returning my old, and rooted/heavily modded phone to TMO.
So I just took the .img that you can download from this thread LINK
Then you just make sure it is on the root of your sdcard, then boot into hboot by holding the volume down while pressing the power button. It will boot and think it is an "update", but it will just restore it to the stock.
Obviously this cannot be done from 2.3.4 because it realizes it is an old version... If you have a phone with stock 2.3.4 you have to trick it into letting you downgrade from gingerbread to froyo using this thread: LINK
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Marquis63 said:
Sorry can"t help on your problem, but how did you restore stock froyo? Had the same replacement prob, sent it back to T-mobile, called CS told them about issues, they're sending a MT4GSlide, call CS you might get lucky like I did
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That's great! But I told them about the fact I solved my wifi problem.... Besides, I already tried to shake them down for a Sensation... no go.
The Slide version looks great... Better camera and faster.... But for now, I will stick with the 4G regular unless I get another issue....
My solution (in another thread) to my wifi problem requires you select "wifi only" under the wifi calling app. If this becomes really problematic and inconvenient, I will call them back... Will try to get a Sensation again or a 4G Slide then.
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OK.... I said f*ck it to the replacement phone.... DOn't want it... Can't root it... (besides I found out it had the ****ty screen that is manufactured in Taiwan, not China). Further, I want to root it now and I cannot do it with stock gingerbread. Sending back replacement phone today...
BUT....Unfortunately, I restored Froyo to my old phone. So now I have an unrooted phone, with Android 2.2.1.
But.... I STILL DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONNECT VIA USB TO USE ADB
I cannot use any wifi adb methods as they all require root.
I cannot use Visionary for temp root as the cyanogen root page wiki says it should be uninstalled.
Nonetheless, I copied all of the needed files to my sdcard, so I am ready....
BUT I NEED TEMP ROOT FROM THE EMULATOR.
Does anyone know how to get temp root for FROYO through the emulator only??.....OR, another Visionary type apk which will give me temp root???
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Go to youtube type gfree mytouch 4g look for author Mackster248 video I would link but I'm a noob
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Z4Root is another app that might work on Froyo.
You can manually execute psneuter or rageagainstthecage from Terminal Emulator. Search Google, it'll guide you for both.
Or you could just not listen to CM Wiki, and use Visionary.
I think Visionary screws things up pretty badly.... I found this out the hard way.
I think I have done a hard reset (removed battery + factory reset) about 8 times so far.
I have been using a combination of Visionary, followed by a root.sh script from this link. Then I do get root.... but it is tremendously precarious.
I then uninstall Visionary, use ADBwireless as I have root now and proceed to follow the Cyanogen instructions.....
But then... whenever I have to run psneuter, it boots me out of the adb shell and I have to start everything all over again.... I have to do a factory reset to get Visionary to work that one f*cking precious time.
I just tried it again just now (I have been modifying steps and things to get it to work)... And now... every time I do a factory reset and run visionary, I don't get a Superuser Root... I get "UNKNOWN USER ROOT" in the emulator.... I have know idea what that means, but it is not root....
I have been at this for days and losing my mind. I cannot believe I can't root this phone.... especially now in Froyo... Without a god**mn USB CABLE!!!
Jack_R1 said:
Z4Root is another app that might work on Froyo.
You can manually execute psneuter or rageagainstthecage from Terminal Emulator. Search Google, it'll guide you for both.
Or you could just not listen to CM Wiki, and use Visionary.
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z4 root doesn't work with the MT4G...
Hey... I had a thought..
Since I have nandroid backups... If I get a Visionary root (if I can....), can I just restore my phone with one of them... I mean those backups are all simunlock, eng hboot, radio =111111111, etc. full root.
But... I thought I would ask so I do not have to do another 15 hard resets to figure out that it doesn't work.
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Hey... I had a thought..
Since I have nandroid backups... If I get a Visionary root (if I can....), can I just restore my phone with one of them... I mean those backups are all simunlock, eng hboot, radio =111111111, etc. full root.
But... I thought I would ask so I do not have to do another 15 hard resets to figure out that it doesn't work.
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no, because VISIONary.apk only gives root access, not S-off. S-off is needed to flash Clockworkmod Recovery, which is needed to flash the backups.
saranhai said:
no, because VISIONary.apk only gives root access, not S-off. S-off is needed to flash Clockworkmod Recovery, which is needed to flash the backups.
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Thanks... and for whatever reason... even though I think I rooted my phone successfully, I cannot restore any of my nandroid backups... I get an error in Rom Manager.... and while in recovery, I get an error of "files missing".
Now I cannot even boot the phone. It is stuck at the myTouch Splash.
I am so f*cking tired of doing this... Nothing has worked--
I cannot believe I reset this phone to Froyo in anticipation of sending it back....
I ended up keeping it because it had the better screen and because I thought I had solved my wifi problem...
I am without a phone at all at this point.
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OK.... I said f*ck it to the replacement phone.... DOn't want it... Can't root it... (besides I found out it had the ****ty screen that is manufactured in Taiwan, not China). Further, I want to root it now and I cannot do it with stock gingerbread. Sending back replacement phone today...
BUT....Unfortunately, I restored Froyo to my old phone. So now I have an unrooted phone, with Android 2.2.1.
But.... I STILL DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONNECT VIA USB TO USE ADB
I cannot use any wifi adb methods as they all require root.
I cannot use Visionary for temp root as the cyanogen root page wiki says it should be uninstalled.
Nonetheless, I copied all of the needed files to my sdcard, so I am ready....
BUT I NEED TEMP ROOT FROM THE EMULATOR.
Does anyone know how to get temp root for FROYO through the emulator only??.....OR, another Visionary type apk which will give me temp root???
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Have you tried gfree?
+1 it might be your only option.
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And to add to that, gfree doesn't exactly require ADB.
You can use that paid root app to manually push the necessary files into system>data>local.
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And to add to that, gfree doesn't exactly require ADB.
You can use that paid root app to manually push the necessary files into system>data>local.
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I finally managed to do it. But it took a lot of trial and error.
I learned:
You can only be rely on exactly 1 temp root from visionary after a factory reset. Any more and you are getting lucky.
Visionary definitely should be uninstalled before following that guide.
I may make a guide after belabouring 17 hours to accomplish this.
I guess I am lucky... If TMO had sent me a phone with a good screen, I would have been tempted to keep that one. If I did, it would have been stock 2.3.4, and I would probably not have root yet.
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syntropic said:
I finally managed to do it. But it took a lot of trial and error.
I learned:
You can only be rely on exactly 1 temp root from visionary after a factory reset. Any more and you are getting lucky.
Visionary definitely should be uninstalled before following that guide.
I may make a guide after belabouring 17 hours to accomplish this.
I guess I am lucky... If TMO had sent me a phone with a good screen, I would have been tempted to keep that one. If I did, it would have been stock 2.3.4, and I would probably not have root yet.
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Thanks for the link, yes you should write a guide, it will help others in your situation. I didn't even ask, the CSR offered the MTS4G. Glad you finally got it figured out, it can make you crazy LOL
So on my girlfreindd my touch 4g I installed and ran invisonary r14 at first I checked temp root on startup and mount system and clicked temproot now.....the su Popped up but phone restarted before I can click allow. After rebooting it was very slow and then I went back into it and click permanentroot but says to do temproot .....so I did it agian an after rebooted clicked permanentboot and restarted but my phone is not rooted....su is installed and I have Apps that say its not rooted so when I try again visionary just flashes and goes back to the apparently so now it wont even temproot to permanentroot and su is installdd and it says its not root so I can't un root so is there anyway of doing this or am I stucl
First off all : VISIONary.apk is a one click root tool but the security flags on our phones turn off the SU ability and remove root commands upon rebooting.
Second of all : you really didn't search this because every "root method" i've seen mentions using one of two different method to root our phones. Either ./gfree or root.sh. The search button works wonders
Third and final : I'm assuming since you gained SU access via VISIONary.apk you are still rocking 2.2.x. You can use the links in my signature for both methods. However i highly suggest you read the newcomers thread first.
Did you search, read before posting? If you are on gingerbread 2.3(which I'm pretty sure you are) you can't root with visionary.
If you're still on froyo 2.2, there's a lot of how to's here and on google.
EDIT:^^^^exactly what he said.
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Quoted myself. Ignore.
Well currently It is 2.2.1 (Froyo) but thank you neidlinger, I will try both of those, but can you guys tell me how safe this is? When I rooted my other phones it was easy and painless (samsung GS phones) But I never rooted an HTC phone so is there anyway these guides can break the phone permanently?
tanner2007 said:
Well currently It is 2.2.1 (Froyo) but thank you neidlinger, I will try both of those, but can you guys tell me how safe this is? When I rooted my other phones it was easy and painless (samsung GS phones) But I never rooted an HTC phone so is there anyway these guides can break the phone permanently?
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Its very easy and very safe if you follow the directions to the T. It takes me 5 minutes tops to root and gain s-off with the visionary, root.sh method. I have never messed up.
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HTC phones are very easy to root, you just need to follow directions and obtain S-off. once Security is off, rooting and flashing is painless.