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my contract just passed the 22 month mark, but im wondering if it would be a smarter idea to get the g2 and see what happens after the potential merger and what promotional deals i could get (if any). or i could be safe and get a g2x and be able to use both frequency bands of att and tmobile. I do realize that the g2x has a dual core, hdmi output, etc, but honestly specs dont matter that much to me; im perfectly content with the g2's good speed. theres also the fact that the g2 has a keyboard, while obviously the g2x does not. i currently have a g1, and i find it hard to switch to virtual keyboards. So guys, input?
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well, i personally love hard keyboards but after getting use to swype, i can honestly say I can do without a hard keyboard. I'd prefer the g2x simply because it will set you up for the future. I'm waiting for my upgrade and switching to the g2x. I love the g2 and all but soon enough, apps and all will be updated to support multi cores. Plus i think the g2x's screen is better, looks better i mean. Up to you
At this point, the G2 shouldn't even be on your short list of phones to consider. It's old technology. Phones like the G2X and other upcoming dual core superphones like the Galaxy S II (or Galaxy S Pro if you want a keyboard) should be the ones you're looking at.
I see no value in buying a phone that came out in October last year at this point. Don't get me wrong the G2 is an awesome phone and I really like it, but there's no reason to buy this old of a phone with all these great ones coming out.
You just have to ask yourself, could you really see the G2 being relevant this time next year? I think a phone that comes out this month has a much better chance at that.
So little love for the G2 already? I'm shocked.
I have had mine for 5 months or so now but I honestly think If I was to upgrade from my old handset RIGHT NOW, I would either get the still G2 or wait for something else to drop from HTC with a hardware keyboard.
My last handset was a Hero and for the entire 8-10 months I had that I always regretted not getting a G1 ... (a) for the kb.... (b) for the dev support!!!!! There was always more going on with the G1 than the Hero.
I think I'll be content with my G2 for another 12months yet.
My wife just got a phone last week. We went into the tmobile store and personally i dont see anything better then a g2. g2x doesnt even count imo... it isnt in the G family on so many levels.
G2 is working great for me so she wanted a g2 also. Shes very happy with it, but then again she came from a motorola cliq lol.
You posted the same question in the Q & A subforum.
Cross posting the same question to multiple subforums is against forum rules, and unnecessary.
I have a G2 since December and my girl just got a G2 now. The reason she wanted a G2 was because she was switching to t-mobile and wanted a phone with a keyboard. We decided that the G2 was good enough for her as it was quick for what she does and has swype as well.
She got the G2 for free with no dataplan required so it was a good deal.
Sure a dual core phone would have been nice, but it would be overkill for her. Front facing camera is a nice feature, but she won't be using it much, or even at all. She didn't want to drop $200 for the latest phone and pay $30 dataplan for the next 2 years.
She just love to text, email and go on facebook. She came from an iphone 3G so it was a big upgrade imo.
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At this point, the G2 shouldn't even be on your short list of phones to consider. It's old technology. Phones like the G2X and other upcoming dual core superphones like the Galaxy S II (or Galaxy S Pro if you want a keyboard) should be the ones you're looking at.
I see no value in buying a phone that came out in October last year at this point. Don't get me wrong the G2 is an awesome phone and I really like it, but there's no reason to buy this old of a phone with all these great ones coming out.
You just have to ask yourself, could you really see the G2 being relevant this time next year? I think a phone that comes out this month has a much better chance at that.
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He using a G1 currently... do you honestly think the G2 is outdated compared to his current phone? It will a GIANT improvement over a G1 and you get to keep the qwerty kb. Trust me, I even fired it up the other day and it was unbearable.... The G2X has nice guts but looks like a plastic pos from LG (typical) and the extra frequency won't freaking matter for 3 years+ The stupid merger will be blocked for a year and a half (at least) and another year and a half before your 3G towers are gone (you still have 2G after that). By that time, 3D phones will be becoming mainstream (or at least more popular) and dual processors will be improved while quads are arriving on tables. The G2 is a good choice for a couple of years. Hell, you can overclock to almost 2GHz! That's plenty fast for now and the near future. The only issue I see is RAM is low compared to newer high end models but the cpu makes up for it with a little OCing...
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At this point, the G2 shouldn't even be on your short list of phones to consider. It's old technology.
You just have to ask yourself, could you really see the G2 being relevant this time next year?
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Consider that this gentleman is still on a g1 which at this stage is genuinely outdated some two years after release. I think if he moved to the direct successor to this venerable handset he would be quite pleased. The brief overlay between release and the present day has merely allowed the dev community time to support the device. Instead, if he did what you suggest and get a g2x (which lacks a hard keyboard, something he seems fond of) he would have to wait some months for it to be cracked and the dev community to support it.
Not to mention that dual core phones are still relatively new tech. Even if the hardware is screaming fast, every dual core phone released so far has some sort of software issue and do you really genuinely believe that the carrier or vendor will be quick to patch these issues? Consider the Engadget review of the LG Optimus2x
Where we were left disappointed, however, was in the company's software execution. Neat little tweaks to Android's default interface failed to obscure the fact that the Optimus 2X is neither as responsive nor as stable as it should be. You might be able to rectify those flaws by installing one of the inevitable avalanche of custom ROMs that this device will benefit from, but we're here to review LG's own performance and we find the failure to deliver a reliable platform inexcusable.
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And the Atrix4g review
The Bad
Motoblur and AT&T bloatware onboard
Isn't running most recent Android release
Software can be slightly buggy
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Though speculating on the end product that HTC will produce is nothing more than conjecture at this stage, these types of commentary lead me to believe that despite the frankly staggeringly good physical hardware, albeit lacking the desired keyboard, the current iteration of dual core smartphones aren't really ready for the consumer market. Their battery life is acceptable, but that goes away when you really are trying to utilize the benefits of having a dual core setup in terms of snappy multitasking.
Get the G2 man. You'll be holding onto it for a while and whatever crop of phones ATT comes out with assuming this merger goes through will probably not live up to the high quality you'll find in the G2. Even now the Dev community is still supporting the G1 so as to if the G2 is going to be "relevant" in a year, that is a silly question. What about all those people who wish to stay off contract yet desire a decent handset at a cheaper price since it is a used model? Dismissing a handset offhand as being "old" and "outdated" despite obvious evidence against this assertion is both shortsighted and closed minded.
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She didn't want to drop $200 for the latest phone and pay $30 dataplan for the next 2 years.
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I hope no one here is paying 30 a month for unlimited. 20 dollars a month its called "android preferred" or something like that. 3 people included myself on our family plan have internet for 20 a month. Just ***** and moan and u can get it too.
things i dislike about the g2x.
no camera button
camera pokes out so uneven backside
i think the review say it has no lens cover so prone to dust
Not a big modding community yet.
I love my G2 and will be happy with it for at least the next 2 years. But, if I were getting a phone now, I would probably get the G2x or more likely wait for the Pyramid.
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things i dislike about the g2x.
no camera button
camera pokes out so uneven backside
i think the review say it has no lens cover so prone to dust
Not a big modding community yet.
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the g2x hasnt even come out yet, that was the optimus 2x, which had its own lg skin over it.
this phone, with the g in the g2x, is mostly stock android with a bit of bloatware put in. you cant say it has a small mod community when it hasnt even come out yet.
Here's really what it boils down to: do you need a physical keyboard or not? A physical keyboard is an absolute must for me, and regardless of the hardware specs I need that keyboard. Right now there just aren't a ton of options on the market, for whatever reason, for a great phone with a physical keyboard, but the G2 is a fantastic one, and easily the best on the market next to the Sprint/HTC Evo Shift (since it's the same internals as the G2 anyway). Remember, even flagships like the Xperia Play have nearly the same exact hardware as the G2, so it's not like it's a crappy phone or something, just not cutting edge any more.
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the g2x hasnt even come out yet, that was the optimus 2x, which had its own lg skin over it.
this phone, with the g in the g2x, is mostly stock android with a bit of bloatware put in. you cant say it has a small mod community when it hasnt even come out yet.
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Hardware wise its the same phone and will be the same subforum .just like the g2 AND desire Z , HTC leo AND the HD2.
Sure the specs on the G2x is amazing, but i would perfer my G2 over the G2x anyday. What I love about my G2 is that it has a beautiful qwerty keyboard & personailly the g2x looks like plastic. The G2 looks like a ****ing Rock. So which one do you rather have a big peice of crappy Plastic or a nice tough looking Rock.
Like others have said here is my list of importance.
1. physical keyboard (i must have it, i cannot do without it)
2. android os (duh...)
3. spec (finally my 3rd i would finally have to start looking at speed and memory)
Maybe the keyboard isnt important to you, if that is so then you have a much larger selection.
G2!
G2 all the way!
Once you've gone hardware keyboard you cant go back. The keyboard is really a big draw the phone has. There aren't really any negative traits about the G2, besides that it's just slightly older. The 800 mhz processor isn't a negative trait about the phone. HTC makes much higher quality phones that LG (in my opinion). And there is not really anything that the G2x has that the G2 doesn't, aside from being game-focused (or at least the T-Mobile website makes it sound game-focused.
My vote is for the G2 for sure.
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Sure the specs on the G2x is amazing, but i would perfer my G2 over the G2x anyday. What I love about my G2 is that it has a beautiful qwerty keyboard & personailly the g2x looks like plastic. The G2 looks like a ****ing Rock. So which one do you rather have a big peice of crappy Plastic or a nice tough looking Rock.
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A shiny rock But yeah, qwerty plus HTC and quality exterior beat LG anyday.
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My wife just got a phone last week. We went into the tmobile store and personally i dont see anything better then a g2. g2x doesnt even count imo... it isnt in the G family on so many levels.
G2 is working great for me so she wanted a g2 also. Shes very happy with it, but then again she came from a motorola cliq lol.
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I came from the cliq... I feel her pain. Dont get me wrong, that phone was like a better iPhone sacrificing the High-End games. But man if its 1 thing I learned from that lesson. Its patients, timing and the right manufacture.
The G2 has a few things no other phone tmobile to date has to offer. Total Openess. Means long community support. G1 still fully supported cause its pure google. Only other phone is the Nexus S which lacks Keyboard, no SDCard, and is Samsung.
Not a single Dual-Core phone is pure Google yet or even a popular HTC for that matter (Like the EVO). Now the Evo 3D would be a good by because itll be way ahead of every1 else, be purchased by many, and its HTC. Most importantly translate to a large Community Base/Support.
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So I bricked my G1 yesterday ( bad bad me )
Maybe it's time for a new phone, but I can't find a good alternative so far
If I can't I'll just buy another old one
The things I liked about the G1 ( beside android ofcourse )
1- Keyboard
Keyboard, I do alot of typing and remote shell connection, so a touch screen keyboard doesn't do it for me
The G1 keyboard was really ideal for this
2- Availability of Roms
3- GPS that would work even without network connection , not assisted gps
4- Compass
Things I didn't like but was surviving with
1- Speeeeeed
2- Memory size
3- Camera and Flash
Any suggestions on what phone to get after a good old G1 ?
My touch slide seems like a good alternative,
Has anyone tried it, any feedback ?
Any other suggestions ?
How about the G2? It seems like a fitting successor. The design is not so grand in my opinion, but it should be a top of the line handset. I am a keyboard only type of guy. I am in love with the Epic 4g styling. I like the Touch Pro 2 in terms of design. However the iffy state of Android on the TP2 is a put-off. Stay tuned for the G2. It's going to be a big phone in terms of technology and T-Mobiles hop into HSPA.
http://www.engadget.com/tag/g2/
Or if you want a G1, some fella started a thread in this forum selling his.
I love the G1 & just recently stopped using one, tmobs phone selection as far as to android devices is pretty mediocre in comparison to others, so when time came I dumped then & got an evo... I was a big stickler on the keyboard as well, but an onscreen keyboard on a 4.3 screen isn't so bad, but I do miss the feel of an actual keyboard, you kinda get to know it by touch. But gps, compass all that stuff is pretty much standard android, check out the epic if your looking to jump I think that's qwerty & should be a sweet phone & as far as roms, pretty much if they have rooted the device your gonna find a slew of roms to follow...but if your sticking with tmob then I would just browse there devices forums here to see which seem to have the most support, after having a G1 forever, I had to go get me a suped (?) Up android phone and tmob didn't cut it, I think that samsung phone is there only 1g phone & i don't believe that has a keyboard though... At any rate good luck, heh, if you stick with anything android after the G1 you can't really go wrong anyway.
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Yeah, G2 looks very interesting, but it's not out yet, and frankly I'm not the 'latest and greatest' type, I prefer to wait untill a new product gets in the market for a few month and stabilizes in terms of price and performance
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Thanks for the epic tip, will look into it
hhmm, found out the Epic is not out yet as well, looks very interesting though
You'd be broke if you were always getting that latest and greatest.
But the G2 -- IMHO and I am a devout TMobile customer, Did the whole Sidekick line (moved to Android/G1 like 4 weeks before we found out TMobile was not working on a new Sidekick and 4 months before they announced the Sidekick was dead!) TMo knows has secured its immaculate position in Android history as the first carrier on Android. I recall analysts predicting Tmo would miserably fail if not go bankrupt/buyout with the Android platform. How wrong they were!
The HTC Dream is the first phone ever on Android. Its successor, the HTC Vision is quite fitting ---- you cannot really have a Vision without first having a Dream.... (actually its impossible to visualize something without first provoking a dream to correspond to said vision) TMO's pathetic compatitors, Verizon/Sprint and even ATT (yes even ATT!) have had glory days this year, but TMO is about to re-emerge with the next GREAT phone --- the HTC Vision/G2.
G2 probably will never end up being the third Android Developer Phone because the Nexus One probably will still be able to matriculate anything the G2 does.... but what the N1 cannot do, that the G2 may be able to do is dual core processor!!! Ive never ran WinMo before, (spend too much time on Windows anyway) but if the G2 is in fact capable, it will be fun to pwn Ballmer)
In short --- and with the big picture in mind, and the fact that the G2 is the first HDSPA phone which will also be a World Phone and that it has a keyboard adds up to something simple -- the G2 is going to be the BOMB!!!
What is really on my mind that I do not understand is... Danger's Sidekick.... which is now proprietary Microsoft, that was created by Andy Rubin (VP Engineering Android) and HTC are working on... something freaky... the rebirth of the SideDroid. A microsoft phone which can possibly intra-dual-core (both boots runnning simultaneously and in tandem, if not comprehensively and intermingly.... do we do Bing orr do we do Google? or Bing? Google?
Bring it.
androidcues
I agree, G2 will probably be a big hit
but I need a phone now
I think I might just settle for another used G1 for a few months untill G2, Epic are out there in a good price point
wanna send me one of the several one's you have as a birthday gift
It cool they are coming with the G2...I hope it has an 1GHZ Processor.
But if mobile carrier is not a prefernce, the Droid is a good smartphone/w a physical keyboard. The reason I won't get one b/c I don't particularly care for Verizon and I like GSM phones.
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I loved the G1 because of its clean and simple design.
Do not like the look of the G2 at all.
The Motorola droid x is the best looking device out there at the moment, although apparently the packaged software is dire and motorola have added preventative measures to stop people flashing non-motorola-approved roms.
As a result I would be looking at the Nexus one if i had to choose today. Its restriction free, will have barely no carrier 'fluff' integrated into the rom, and will be supported for a long time.
Wait....Isn't G2 the Hero? I'm confused. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPkeXZbaw3Q&feature=related
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Never mind. I found Its nickname "Vision"
I agree with most of what you said. I got a text from T-Mobile this morning saying the G2 was coming. So I get on the net to check out their own website, it wasn't working. So I search the net to find out anything about it and doesn't appear to be much better. They've increased the megapixels on the camera but only to a 5 when a number of phone have an 8. Also disappointed that there's no flash. Impressed that the screen will be bigger and I'm okay to part with the keyboard as long as the on-screen keyboard is accurate. I've loved my G1 but have recently become very disappointed with the number of apps I'm UNable to download because I run out of memory. If that issue is fixed on the G2 I'll be happy. I've been contemplated ridding myself of T-Mobile only because of the lack of great phones. I have no complaint with service or customer service but would like to see some better phones. I was all about getting and HD2 until I realized it was not carrying the android market. I would like to see more from T-Mobile.
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I agree with most of what you said. I got a text from T-Mobile this morning saying the G2 was coming. So I get on the net to check out their own website, it wasn't working. So I search the net to find out anything about it and doesn't appear to be much better. They've increased the megapixels on the camera but only to a 5 when a number of phone have an 8. Also disappointed that there's no flash. Impressed that the screen will be bigger and I'm okay to part with the keyboard as long as the on-screen keyboard is accurate. I've loved my G1 but have recently become very disappointed with the number of apps I'm UNable to download because I run out of memory. If that issue is fixed on the G2 I'll be happy. I've been contemplated ridding myself of T-Mobile only because of the lack of great phones. I have no complaint with service or customer service but would like to see some better phones. I was all about getting and HD2 until I realized it was not carrying the android market. I would like to see more from T-Mobile.
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Try the vibrant or the mytouch slide. I'm using the vibrant And its the bomb!
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It's nice having a truly capable phone after using a g1 for so long aye...
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Look, I recently brought a Slide...but im now selling it on ebay and ill save that money for a G2...Ill be goning back to my G1 for now while I wait for the G2 or maybe Mytouch HD to come out. Which ever one comes out first.And im not selling the slide cause its bad or anything, just want something that will last 2yrs. Dont get me wrong the phone is incredible, everything opens so quickly and smoothly all the time. Battery life is good for me too,and i love the design...but i want a phone that will lack support, which i feel this will have too.
If u like the slide out keyboard I would wait for the g2 nice screen size and specs
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Personally, I'll be moving to Sprint and getting the Epic 4G. It's available on Amazon for $200 right now, and that price is sure to fall.
I've been looking at the G2. I've come from a Touch Pro 2 on WinMo to Android Port on TP2 to a Backflip to a Vibrant.
I kindof miss a hardware keyboard... but I don't know.
The Vibrant is great.
I guess all I need is some encouragement on why I should keep the Vibrant over the G2. Or vice versa. What do you think? If you could trade your Vibrant for a G2, would you?
Screen and cpu
It is easy to get caught up in the "Latest and Greatest", but .... screen is smaller and the cpu is slower.
One thing I have always noticed is too many ppl are into perfecting the phone rather than enjoying it once it is perfected. I like the galaxy and until they come up with a real big improvement rather than incremental....... I wouldn't change
my two cents worth........
If you want a hardware keyboard, get the G2. Both are great phones. I like the thin and lightness of the vibrant plus the gorgeous screen. Plus, i like the extra storage on the vibrant.
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Is the CPU really slower? It may run at 800MHz but it is the new generation of the SnapDragon. MHz/GHz doesn't matter in some cases...
I would trade my Vibrant for a G2, mainly because I really miss the physical keyboard. I didn't think I would miss it, but once I started using the Vibrant full time I really could use the keyboard to do my long drawn out posts on DailyKos and other blogging sites that I work with.
In a month nobody is going to be talking much about the G2. Then what are you going to do? Trade your g2 for a mytouch hd just because you saw an unboxing video of it? The vibrant is a kickass phone... The g2 is going to pass like the mytouch slide.
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That's the thing. Is there any good qwerty phone coming out?
The G2 has the perfect build for a qwerty phone... as does the droid 2 (somewhat).
I just don't know. The Vibrant is hot but the G2 is also hot.
And Swype isn't so accurate... typing long posts as stated above is a bit hard to do.
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In a month nobody is going to be talking much about the G2. Then what are you going to do? Trade your g2 for a mytouch hd just because you saw an unboxing video of it? The vibrant is a kickass phone... The g2 is going to pass like the mytouch slide.
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Or like the G1 did..
The Vibrant is an awesome phone, Great display & processor.. Stick with the best Don't downgrade
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I've been looking at the G2. I've come from a Touch Pro 2 on WinMo to Android Port on TP2 to a Backflip to a Vibrant.
I kindof miss a hardware keyboard... but I don't know.
The Vibrant is great.
I guess all I need is some encouragement on why I should keep the Vibrant over the G2. Or vice versa. What do you think? If you could trade your Vibrant for a G2, would you?
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why don't you tell us, why should you get the G2 over the vibrant
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I've been looking at the G2. I've come from a Touch Pro 2 on WinMo to Android Port on TP2 to a Backflip to a Vibrant.
I kindof miss a hardware keyboard... but I don't know.
The Vibrant is great.
I guess all I need is some encouragement on why I should keep the Vibrant over the G2. Or vice versa. What do you think? If you could trade your Vibrant for a G2, would you?
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If you like your OLED screen you will be out of luck with G2 it only has SLCD
Also GPU is better on vibrant with up to 92M triangles/sec
when G2 GPU only has up to 41M triangles/sec
Vibrant supports more video and audio codecs
Not sure about what CPU is better in all honesty the snapdragon, scorpion CPU's high mflops scores are overrated and only benefit in benchmarking not real world use.
G2 is nice if you want qwerty keyboard
and you want on time updates
plus lot more developers in XDA focus on HTC
And HTC phones have great build quality
IDK Ive always gone with HTC but im really liking the galaxy S
G1 Pros -
Hardware Keyboard
Stock Android
Bit smaller (height/width)
HSPA+
Solid Feel
Newer (LOL I'm a new freak)
G1 Cons -
No TV Out?
Stripped Mobile AP
Vibrant Pros -
Super Amoled
Mobile AP
TV Out
Vibrant Cons -
Touchwiz
Samsung
Plasticy feel
Maybe I'm just feeling insecure and need some security in keeping the Vibrant, or maybe I just need to buy a G2... Don't know.
Or maybe I should get the G2 and compare it to my vibrant for 14 days and return it within the grace period if I don't decide I want it.
I'd hang onto the Vibrant for just a little longer. I know the only reason myself and many other considered giving up the Vibrant is due to lack of support to fix issues the phone has. If Samsung/Tmobile were on it, people wouldn't have any real gripes about the Vibrant.
Forget the software issues for now. What's wrong with the Vibrant, or why should you keep it? I'd like a camera flash. That's all for me. I don't care about the slide out keyboard, I like the screen size and sleekness more than the G2, and I think it's a better looking for overall. HSPA+ would be a factor but isn't offered in the city I live in at the moment. I hear the G2 runs ultra smooth though, so I wouldn't consider the processor speed a factor. If you're n your remorse period, return it now. You don't want to take a chance on Samsung/Tmo or developers completely ridding this phone of issues. If you'd be paying full pop for the G2, just hold off for awhile longer. Vibrant could get software love, G2 could have issues arise, or another badass phone could come out and you'd have a "Should I stay with the G2 or go to XYZ phone?" thread.
Think of it this way.. People still use/support the G1, and it's still a decent phone. The Vibrant is far superior to it, despite issues. You won't have some useless old hunk of junk if you keep the Vibrant. It'll still be good for awhile.
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Touchwiz
Samsung
Plasticy feel
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Touchwiz - There are other Launchers (e.g; LauncherPro)
Samsung - How is that a Con?
Plasticy feel - Okay, Sure... But a case would easily fix that..
A case for an already big phone for me... Nah
And by Touchwiz, believe me I've stripped it down more than you can imagine. I'm NOT referring to the Launcher. I'm referring to all the system deep modifications that bog down the Vibrant.
Samsung is a con because... well. Behold 2. Etc. Lack of support/timely updates.
I was expecting FroYo by sep 15. Lol. I've waited. It's October. We're on Eclair. Behind everyone. Well, I'm on JP3, but seriously. Where is it.
I know a lot of people have complained about FroYo's absence, and I didn't think I would get involved. But it's October 3rd.
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A case for an already big phone for me... Nah
And by Touchwiz, believe me I've stripped it down more than you can imagine. I'm NOT referring to the Launcher. I'm referring to all the system deep modifications that bog down the Vibrant.
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try bionix 1.5 with launcher pro, no bog.
If you look at the main complaints about the G2, its all about the hardware.
If you look at the complaints about the Vibrant, its mostly software.
You can change/fix software pretty easily. Hardware not so much.
The G2's hinge system is enough to make me love my vibrant so much more--I cannot wait until I hear all the whining about broken hinges.
Such a dumb design.
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G1 Pros -
Hardware Keyboard
Stock Android
Bit smaller (height/width)
HSPA+
Solid Feel
Newer (LOL I'm a new freak)
G1 Cons -
No TV Out?
Stripped Mobile AP
Vibrant Pros -
Super Amoled
Mobile AP
TV Out
Vibrant Cons -
Touchwiz
Samsung
Plasticy feel
Maybe I'm just feeling insecure and need some security in keeping the Vibrant, or maybe I just need to buy a G2... Don't know.
Or maybe I should get the G2 and compare it to my vibrant for 14 days and return it within the grace period if I don't decide I want it.
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Get whatever suits your needs. Our opinions can only sway your own personal decision so far. I held onto my G1 from the day I got it because I wanted to see where Android would progress to. I considered getting the mytouch slide given the keyboard then i caught wind of this device. All shortcomings aside, this is the greatest device i've ever owned and I wont be giving it up until a predecessor if any is made.
It suits my needs for my everyday use and I as well thought I would need to have a keyboard but that's definitely not the case now. So my advice to you would be to try it out and see if the G2 would be a more fitting device for you. Good luck!
If Samsung steps up its game and matches the Vibrant's great hardware with great software, than the Vibrant vs G2 will be a must more interesting battle. However, as it stands, the Vibrant may (mostly) overshadow the G2 when it comes to hardware - aside from a few select areas like camera flash and HSPA+ - but it is really bogged down by sub par software.
In other words, what I am saying is unless there is someway of knowing for sure Samsung will support this thing until at least Gingerbread, release the updates on a moderately acceptable timeframe, and fix the **** problems we are having (their track record is not encouraging)... go with the G2. Plus you said you prefer hardware keyboard anyway, so no brainier.
Dude nobody can tell you how you should feel and what you should buy. If everyone here says to keep the Vibrant yet you prefer having keyboards, the choice should be easy. I wouldn't trade in for a G2 because the Vibrant suits my needs just fine... but that's me.
You need to decide.
I have a G2. I love it. I have a Vibrant as well. I hate it. I have exchanged it 5 times for warranty I think. When talking to T-mobile they offered to exchange it for any device of equal retail value, within the next 30 days. I have until November 15 to decide what I want.
Since I already have a G2, what should I do? Should I get the MyTouch? Should I get the HD7? What would you do? Why?
Help me make a hard decision. I am leaning heavily towards the MyTouch. Can you think of any reason for me not too?
I would get another G2, wait a little while, get an unlock code from Tmo and then sell it on Ebay or Craigslist and keep the cash for the holidays
I would get a WP7 phone because this way youll be able to compare the two platforms (if you are a true phone geek)..... and if you dont like it, you can sell it for cold hard cash because it WILL be in demand for the holidays.
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I would get a WP7 phone because this way youll be able to compare the two platforms (if you are a true phone geek)..... and if you dont like it, you can sell it for cold hard cash because it WILL be in demand for the holidays.
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LOL you are kidding, right?
I recommend getting the WP7 because the MTHD is just another Android device. Get the WP7 and see if it's a worthy platform. If you hate it, sell it.
I am severely torn actually. The problem I have with the WP7 is that it doesn't support the + network. They say the screen isn't so great.
The reason I can't decide about the MyTouch is because, really how much different will it be from my G2? I don't need a FFC, but I could use WIFI calling. Really the biggest reason I am considering the whole MyTouch is because at school I get 0 signal but I can get on the WIFI. It is to come with WIFI calling out of the box.
I guess I will have to go to the Store and compare before I make up my mind. I don't think anything better will be out before Christmas, so it is one of the two. I have to get rid of the POS Vibrant.
I wanted to love it but it is just way too buggy, laggy, and there is no support.
Any more suggestions?
The screen is pretty good. It's not the one on the HD2. I would definitely take the HD7.
You should have opened a poll.
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The reason I can't decide about the MyTouch is because, really how much different will it be from my G2? I don't need a FFC, but I could use WIFI calling. Really the biggest reason I am considering the whole MyTouch is because at school I get 0 signal but I can get on the WIFI. It is to come with WIFI calling out of the box.
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There were OTA updates rolling out for some G2 owners a few days ago. There are rumors that T-Mobile will make it official soon and have it spread. The OTA included UMA support (what you listed as "wifi calling"; to be fair, the application calls it that too). The biggest reason I returned my G2 was because it doesn't support UMA yet; I didn't realize how much I relied on it with my BB Pearl until I couldn't use the cell radio indoors.
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The screen is pretty good. It's not the one on the HD2. I would definitely take the HD7.
You should have opened a poll.
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But the processor is the 1GHZ with the adreno 200. That means that the graphics will suffer in 3d games. Since the WP7 is supposed to be a huge gaming platform that worries me.
The reason it's called WiFi calling is that's because that's all it is. It isn't UMA. With UMA the call can be handed off to 3G seemlessly when you leave a WiFi area. The WiFi calling does not hand off the call, so in actuality it's not UMA at all.
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There were OTA updates rolling out for some G2 owners a few days ago. There are rumors that T-Mobile will make it official soon and have it spread. The OTA included UMA support (what you listed as "wifi calling"; to be fair, the application calls it that too). The biggest reason I returned my G2 was because it doesn't support UMA yet; I didn't realize how much I relied on it with my BB Pearl until I couldn't use the cell radio indoors.
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id get the htc hd2. its a winmo phone, its got the 1ghz processor, plus you can install android on it anyways if you want.
I appreciate everyone chiming in with an opinion. I have made a choice and it is going to be the teeny clone of my G2.
Basically the hardware of the HD7 just doesn't cut it for me. It has the last generation processor. It has the old GPU and all reports say the screen is much less than impressive.
If it had hardware anywhere close to the G2 or MyTouch(4G) then I would love to give WP7 a shot. As it stands I am not going to take my $500 credit (that is what it is basically) and get last years hardware with this years OS on it. I just cant waste money like that.
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I appreciate everyone chiming in with an opinion. I have made a choice and it is going to be the teeny clone of my G2.
Basically the hardware of the HD7 just doesn't cut it for me. It has the last generation processor. It has the old GPU and all reports say the screen is much less than impressive.
If it had hardware anywhere close to the G2 or MyTouch(4G) then I would love to give WP7 a shot. As it stands I am not going to take my $500 credit (that is what it is basically) and get last years hardware with this years OS on it. I just cant waste money like that.
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While it may have the 1st generation Snapdragon, it's far from outdated. And you miss a key point with the Adreno 200. Microsoft has written drivers for it. Microsoft will also be supporting Xbox mobile with a lot of titles and updates. With Android, which has been out for 2 years, your options are tower defense, angry birds, and fruit ninja. There's also emulation, but that will come to WP7 too. However, the G2's keyboard is superior for emulation.
Here's some gameplay on the older adreno 200..
Need For Speed
Harvest Clip 1
Harvest Clip 2
Engadget - Bottom 3 videos
Rocket Riot from the 360 is also being ported to WP7. There's even talk of a Halo game.
EDIT: I hope these links help. The G2 is an awesome phone, but I wanted to make sure you had the facts about the Adreno 200.
Gingerbread
I wish I could own everyphone that comes out.
Spend it wisely, if you love android... get android!!!
Gingerbread hopefully will put Microsoft into shame.
Hey members,
Newb here to the forums and wanting to get regular with posting and such. I was on sprint users and have moved over to tmobile on a family plan and signed up during the FREE PROMOTION. I got 3 lines for Wife, MIL, and Me. We went with 2 my touch 4g for the ladies and I picked up the G2.
I was really sad to see that rooting would be very tricky using ADB compared to EVO like my brothers. I found a quick and easy method using terminal and preset images. I loaded up nightly build for cyanogen vision build 37. Overclock to 1.3ghz and using 1500mhz EVO battery modded. I plan to pick up a mugen battery but wanted to use what i had lying around the house for Sh*ts and giggles.
I have 12 more days left to swap out for any other model in store and only thing that looked decent was mytouch4g. With the latest roms and slight overclock i am happy with performance and build quality (wish hinges were slight bit stronger and held in place). Should I bother looking at any other models in the next 12 days. Seems like all the next gen phones will be out in next 2-4 months and the deal i got was really nice. I paid $100 up front for each phones and with that we got free accessories, 15% off monthly bill and free activation. The kicker is we get $200 back in mail in rebate per phone so that should help with modding costs
Any recommendations at all on MIUI rom versus a decent Cyanogen rom that i should try next or any other rom for that matter. I was very glad that with those 4 links i was able to be up and running in matter of couple hours and was able to spend the rest of my time with baby boi versus ADB
thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=928160
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=906590
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419
vision nightly build 37
http://mirror.teamdouche.net/?device=vision
I have both the G2 and the MT4G. Both are amazing phones with excellent hardware (minus them stupid hinges). Right now the mytouch is my weapon of choice, but it took a long time for that to happen. I still use my G2 here and there. Both are rooted with Cyanogen nightlys. My best advice to you would be play with your wifes phone here and there. do some comparisons of what you like to do with the phones. One major factor is ffc vs real keyboard. Personally I would pick the keyboard cause I don't know many people who really are gonna get that much use outta the ffc. I mean its cool but how often is it really goin to get used. The reason I am using the mytouch though is because of it's 768(or something like that) RAM. G2 comes with only 512(I believe). This offers more more functionality for what I like to do with my phones and its future. It is a very tough decision, and good luck with whichever you choose.
On a side note, I am somewhat disappointed in the G2 only because the G1 was so iconic and the G2 just seems like a semi-improved nexus1. Plus the G1 was a class of it's own whereas the G2 has a twin called the desire z. A phone with that type of history/background should be another single Icon. This is just my opinion though. The phone is great for what it is.
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I have both the G2 and the MT4G. Both are amazing phones with excellent hardware (minus them stupid hinges). Right now the mytouch is my weapon of choice, but it took a long time for that to happen. I still use my G2 here and there. Both are rooted with Cyanogen nightlys. My best advice to you would be play with your wifes phone here and there. do some comparisons of what you like to do with the phones. One major factor is ffc vs real keyboard. Personally I would pick the keyboard cause I don't know many people who really are gonna get that much use outta the ffc. I mean its cool but how often is it really goin to get used. The reason I am using the mytouch though is because of it's 768(or something like that) RAM. G2 comes with only 512(I believe). This offers more more functionality for what I like to do with my phones and its future. It is a very tough decision, and good luck with whichever you choose.
On a side note, I am somewhat disappointed in the G2 only because the G1 was so iconic and the G2 just seems like a semi-improved nexus1. Plus the G1 was a class of it's own whereas the G2 has a twin called the desire z. A phone with that type of history/background should be another single Icon. This is just my opinion though. The phone is great for what it is.
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I would like to correct your g1 statement the g1 is actually a triplet having the dev 1(android site) and the htc dream(Europe)http://mobilenewz.net/2009/02/google-blocking-paid-market-apps-from-dev-phone-1-users/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Dream
but then again the G2 and Dezire z are like good twin and bad twin (hence Stock and Sense)
I love my g2 except for my first one had a busted hinge and the replacement they sent the phone wouldn't stay shut. It had the loosest hinge.
My case I got the g2 for a business device because I email a lot and wanted a physical kb (and not the limitations of a blackberry) but I now worry about my 3rd replacement being a possible dud too. I guess ill wait and see.
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@TakoLuffer Thanks for the correction. Although I still feel that the G2 is a little disappointing. But that is just my 2 cents. It is a great phone, don't get me wrong. To me it just seems it comes up short to what it could/should have been.
After CES and MWC seeing new phones being announced. Like for example the Motorola Atrix and The new Galaxy S II. I would still want to get the Nexus S probably because of the stock android. Is this normal, are there any other people that feel the same way as I do?
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After CES and MWC seeing new phones being announced. Like for example the Motorola Atrix and The new Galaxy S II. I would still want to get the Nexus S probably because of the stock android. Is this normal, are there any other people that feel the same way as I do?
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I watched all of CES and I've been following MWC a bit more loosely but not a single one of them makes me want to give up my Nexus S. If you could keep my SNS I'd love to have an HTC Pyramid on top of it but just for poops and giggles. The SNS is the best phone I've owned and I love it.
I feel the same way as you do, but you can also run stock on a Galaxy S II or Motorola Atrix, with Custom ROMs. Of course, it won't be the same as with the Nexus S.
I just like the Nexus s as a whole. What I mean to say with that is that stock Android and updates from Google isn't the only thing I like about the Nexus.
I feel the same. I haven't seen anything that I would want instead of my Nexus S. Vanilla Android beats all
I feel the same..
while i like direct upgrades from Google in the SNS
i really like the hardware codec support for all the media files from the SGS2, and the dual core, and 1GB RAM, and the larger 1650mAh battery, and the 8 mpix camera with the flash, and the microSD support, and NFC, and BT3.0, and...
it's a really hard decision to make, forfeit direct upgrades to get all the goodies vs. keep direct upgrades, and have no goodies
the moment of truth will come when the AWS t-mobile model 1700+2100 hit the runway then i'll let me greed decide
None of these new phones are appealing to me at all.
I'll only buy into the Nexus brand from now on. This phone has been everything I've ever wanted from an Android device.
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while i like direct upgrades from Google in the SNS
i really like the hardware codec support for all the media files from the SGS2, and the dual core, and 1GB RAM, and the larger 1650mAh battery, and the 8 mpix camera with the flash, and the microSD support, and NFC, and BT3.0, and...
it's a really hard decision to make, forfeit direct upgrades to get all the goodies vs. keep direct upgrades, and have no goodies
the moment of truth will come when the AWS t-mobile model 1700+2100 hit the runway then i'll let me greed decide
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and super amoled+. I'm looking forward to a 4" variant, if they make one.
Love my Nexus S. The hardware, the fact that is supported straight from Google, everything about it.
I'm not saying i'm not curious about the new dual core devices, but think about that for a minute: our single core phones go through a day - day and half with a 1540mA battery. Imagine the talk/standby time of those new phones with only 1650 and 1900 mA batteries. When sth just comes out, usually needs work. Like Win7, dual core phones, the android when it ws first launched.
So, i think i'm gonna wait a while before trying a new device.
Google Nexus S rules...
For the most part, I agree. There's nothing so appealing to make me want to ditch my current Nexus S, however, understand what "stock Android" means.
Yes, you get the latest Google updates, and you get the unhampered Android experience, but just be aware that Android is riddled with glitches ranging from minor annoyances to some pretty major issues. (Just to name a few off my head: keyboard issues, home screen icon and swiping issues, gallery issues, rebooting issues, SMS and MMS issues...)
As long as you understand that being on the Nexus line means you're essentially the "beta tester" for Google's Android iterations, then you shouldn't be disappointed. I'm just sharing my personal experience. I found many things critical about the Android experience on previous phones, but always had OEM skins to blame. On the NS, that excuse is invalid.
I too am fairly disappointed with all of the new phones (including the NS to an extent).
Atrix = Plastic, and has Moto's locked down bootloader (major negative, and if it wasn't so locked down, I may have made an exception for its cheaper build quality).
Inspire 4G = Nothing too impressive, still has HTCs horrible mic and speaker quality and probably a ****ty digitizer/touch screen.
HTCs entire new lineup: No dual core? No gingerbread for the Incredible? Minimal upgrades at best.
SGSII = Plastic.
Nexus S = Plastic.
I may be old fashioned, but can anyone other than HTC make a $600+ Android phone that isn't plastic? Or what? Combine HTCs metal build, Moto's excellent speaker quality, Samsung's sensitive touchscreen, and then tack on the true Google experience -- and there you have it, the perfect Android device.
Until then, the iPhone still has an edge over Android with their polished build quality. I'm probably going to get attacked with fanboi'ism (even though I've owned 3 Android devices in the last 2 years), but whatever... it's true... There always seems to be trade offs with Android devices, whether it's build, or OS fragmentation - it drives me crazy.
I'm going to be picking up an Android fun to bum around with, and it's most likely going to be the Nexus S when and if it arrives to Rogers, just because it's the next iteration of the Nexus One. I'll put up with the cheap build quality (I'll try really hard not to drop it) and call it a day.
Ill stay with my Nexy Sexy
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Combine HTCs metal build, Moto's excellent speaker quality, Samsung's sensitive touchscreen, and then tack on the true Google experience -- and there you have it, the perfect Android device.
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I 100% completely agree in that point
why it is so hard for all the manufacture to put all the best stuff together and make a perfect phone?
seems like every manufacture only specializes in 1 thing, but not the rest of the phone.
personally i wanted a phone for work and fun, so the Nexus S fit the profile, just a bit disappointing in the reception area, and speaker, it serves better as a PDA than a phone
for my girl i got her a Moto because it's radio and speaker perfect, it will always get a signal, it was designed as a phone, and it works as a phone
I must say I regret dropping $600 on this phone at the eve of dual-cores. It is not that the Nexus S is "bad"; sure 2.3 isn't 100% bug-free but the phone itself is great. I just find it really dumb of me to purchase a phone with single core when dual-cores are right around the corner.
P.S. Atrix might have a lot of things going for it, but the most major innovation I find in the Atrix is the huge battery and great battery life, without sacrificing phone size (in regards to thickness).
I'm sold on the idea of a google backed phone. Now I just need to save up for one of these and find a way out of my contract with sprint. I am just tired of the run around with updates between carrier/mfg. I think I am over the need for having the latest and greatest and can settle down with one device for a while until the newest nexus comes around. A small trade off in my opinion as I will still have the latest OS and support from great devs and plenty of time to save for the next one. Last plus for me is being able to get on a month to month service and no more contracts. I'm on my way over guys, just saving up some cash then its on ;-)
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Have you seen the LG Optimus 2X reviews? Force closes and crashes left and right... talk about half baked.
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I must say I regret dropping $600 on this phone at the eve of dual-cores. It is not that the Nexus S is "bad"; sure 2.3 isn't 100% bug-free but the phone itself is great. I just find it really dumb of me to purchase a phone with single core when dual-cores are right around the corner.
P.S. Atrix might have a lot of things going for it, but the most major innovation I find in the Atrix is the huge battery and great battery life, without sacrificing phone size (in regards to thickness).
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So far none of these new phones make me want to give up my NS either.
Atrix - locked bootloader
SGS2 - too big, not a fan of the design - I want a search button!
LG 2x - its an LG lol
I may change my mind once I get to play with these phones
Alopez_45 said:
After CES and MWC seeing new phones being announced. Like for example the Motorola Atrix and The new Galaxy S II. I would still want to get the Nexus S probably because of the stock android. Is this normal, are there any other people that feel the same way as I do?
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+1
I have a Nexus S and it's awesome. Stock Android is the only way to go.
I'm not gonna lie. I'm still thinking of getting one, even with all the phones on the horizon. My upgrade from T-Mobile isn't until July. Tax return is burning a hole in my pocket... If only they had a car dock like the Nexus One...
DarkAgent said:
I must say I regret dropping $600 on this phone at the eve of dual-cores. It is not that the Nexus S is "bad"; sure 2.3 isn't 100% bug-free but the phone itself is great. I just find it really dumb of me to purchase a phone with single core when dual-cores are right around the corner.
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Would it be dumb to get a dual core phone with QUAD CORE phones right around the corner?
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