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[Andriod] Market on the Sprint Touch and paid apps

First, I would like to say thanks to all the devs who have been working on Android builds for our Touches. I have tried several in the last few weeks and like them all.
My question is, is anyone on Sprint able to see and buy the paid apps in the Market? (I have searched, but there aren't any recent posts about Sprint and paid apps.) I have tried the Market Enabler, but still see no paid apps. If anyone on Sprint has found a way, please tell us the exact steps you used to make it work.
Right now, my favorite build is the senseHero build, found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=582372
I tried running it with just the needed system files, letting it write a new data.img file. I used a virgin gmail account at start-up. Before I went to the Market, I downloaded and ran the newest version of MarketEnabler. Still no paid apps. Any ideas?
Thanks.
Sally

yes, you can. first, you must have full root access. see here. short version: open up a terminal app on the phone, and type this:
Code:
chmod 4755 /bin/su
this sticks after reboot.
second, download market enabler from here. this has to be re-run after a reboot, it does not stick.
run market enabler, go to the second tab, long-click on t-mobile US, and clone it. then run market, you will see all the paid apps.
I know this works on android 1.5, market enabler previously was not working on 1.6 don't know if that has changed.

[Q] can i install torrent downloaded copilot with unrooted phone?

ive downloaded copilot from torrent, now can i install it without root the phone or do i need to root the wildfire to do it?

You can install it with no problems on a nonrooted wildfire, given the torrent isn't corrupt. I myself have copilot and run it with almost no problems, and I'm not rooted.
Erwin

so rooting its only needed to install custom rom?
i can install any downloaded app with an unrooted phone? cause ive saw theres a marketplace app drm protection system

You can install downloaded apps off other sources (You just need the APK and SD Card Data, if any). This process is called 'sideloading'. To enable this, just make sure the following setting is activated:
Settings > Applications > Tick 'Unknown Sources'.

so the marketplace app drm protection system is totally unuseful?
and again rooting is only needed for custom roms?

raniero1 said:
so the marketplace app drm protection system is totally unuseful?
and again rooting is only needed for custom roms?
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I am not aware of any marketplace DRM systems. Maybe it is used only to protect paid apps or such. You will have to look it up yourself / ask an experienced member. Besides, AFAIK, Free Apps dont have any DRM Protection on them, since, they are, well, free. (GetJAR is one site where you will find APK's of many free apps)
Rooting is used for Custom ROMs, and also a number of other uses like getting Root only apps to work (SetCPU, Titanium Backup, Root Explorer etc)., Overclocking your phone, Phone backups and Restore via Nandroid etc.

3xeno said:
I am not aware of any marketplace DRM systems. Maybe it is used only to protect paid apps or such. You will have to look it up yourself / ask an experienced member. Besides, AFAIK, Free Apps dont have any DRM Protection on them, since, they are, well, free. (GetJAR is one site where you will find APK's of many free apps)
Rooting is used for Custom ROMs, and also a number of other uses like getting Root only apps to work (SetCPU, Titanium Backup, Root Explorer etc)., Overclocking your phone, Phone backups and Restore via Nandroid etc.
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yes the drm protection its for paid apps
tnx

There is a problem with copilot on the wildfire and I'm sure you will encounter it when you have to type it really is screwed up.
Dont know if its all wildfires but a few people have complained about it and it certainly done it on mine
the problem is if you type a word
i.e "home" it types like "Hhomomooeme"
its a pain in the ### to type

so this problem is not for any wildfire right? witch is the best alternative for copilot?
can somebody tell what i have to do to install copilot once ive downloaded it from torrent? i cant understand how can i install it on andorid 2.1 if i cant run software from sd, how i should put it inside the phone if i can access just the sd?

raniero1 said:
so this problem is not for any wildfire right? witch is the best alternative for copilot?
can somebody tell what i have to do to install copilot once ive downloaded it from torrent? i cant understand how can i install it on andorid 2.1 if i cant run software from sd, how i should put it inside the phone if i can access just the sd?
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Get Astro File manager from the market.

I found a way to type "normally" on copliot if it does mess up.
after every letter you enter you press backspace once.
so to correctly spell "home" you need to press:
H - Backspace - o - Backspace - m - Backspace - e
you do not need to press backspace after spaces

[Q] what are the advantages and disadvantages of rooting and are there any risks?

Could somebody please tell me what the advantages and disadvantages of rooting the flipside are, and MOST IMPORTANTLY, are there any risks??
Will I be able to take of all of these ATT apps?
Will I be able to move my apps from the phones memory to the SD card?
Can the phone be unrooted?
Will all of my apps still work?
What is the best route to root? I have the z4root.
I am much indebted to anyone who will answer these questions. Thanks.

z4root will work fine, it's nice an easy to use. Rooting won't give you an easy way to move apps to the sd card, but you can remove the AT&T (and other system) apps. You can either do it by hand, or with any number of apps on the market. I prefer titanium backup, personally. All of your existing apps will work, there's no change there.
The only real disadvantage is that you'll have the power to screw up your phone. You can potentially screw up bad enough that you'll need to reflash the stock .sbf file. Generally, this takes some real screwing around, but just thought I'd point it out.

Thank u for your thourough answer. What do you mean by screw it up. How could I do that and how do i avoid it. Are you saying by virtue of the fact that i'm rooting that i'll screw it up, or it's something that i may do afterwards that may do it? Thanks.
also, are there any other advantages to rooting other than taking off the apps?

The act of rooting itself shouldn't screw anything up, but having root means you could possibly do something later that would. Generally, you'd have to be messing with stuff you have no business messing with. With root, you can remount the system directory as read/write, and then end up deleting or modifying a file that won't let the phone boot, which means you'd need to reflash. Stay away from the command line if you don't know what you're doing, and don't grant root access to apps you don't trust, and you're reasonably safe.
Other than removing system apps, like the AT&T garbage, you can also backup and restore apps and their data, which is great for if you need to reflash, if you switch phones, etc. There's not a TON of stuff that requires root, but honestly, removing the AT&T junk is definitely a good reason to root, the phone feels much faster after scrapping a lot of the blur and AT&T stuff.

I'm assuming then that any android/att/Motorola updates will not be problem either? BTW, do you if and when Motorola will bupdating the flipside to 2.2? Thanks.

There shouldn't be any problem updating with an official update if/when we get one, but you'll need to re-root and remove the AT&T stuff again. There's no word on when we'll get 2.2, but I'd assume we'll get it at some point.

Ok. I just rooted! Yeah, it worked! But i cannot figue out how to delete the att bloatware. I go into the apps manager and click on one of the att apps, and there is still no option to uninstall; only to clear the cache. Also, I downloaded the titanium and I cannot figure out how to do it from there either. Plus, I still had to sideload the titanium which i tbought that i would not have to do once i rooted.

mordechai said:
Plus, I still had to sideload the titanium which i tbought that i would not have to do once i rooted.
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You need to enable Unknown Sources before you can install non-Market apps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867637
This is also an example of how you can mess up your phone by having root access.

That is part of the problem that i do not have that option in two.one. that is why i had to sideload all of those programs. are you saying that i screwed up my phone. i tried clicking on the link but this googlw ad comes up and i cant get past it.

Ok, i got through to the link. But the guy seems pretty shaky as to whether you should follow his instructions. Is this legit or what?

Maybe one of you guys can help. I'm new to alot of this but my last droid x was rooted and it was great I used z4root worked perfectly. But now I have a new X and a z4root apk. On my laptop, now what? Last rooted X, I was fortunate enough to catch z4root on the market, like a day before they updated. HELP!!!!!
Sent from my DROIDX using XDA App

There are instructions in another post in this forum on how to enable Non-Market Apps, also known as Unknown Sources. With Titanium Backup, make sure that you grant it root permissions when it asks, and that it says something like this on the overview:
Root access: OK (BusyBox 1.17.2 from system)
HyperShell (FAST!): YES
Fast/Auto app install: Yes (using HyperShell)
SQLite: YES (SQLite 3.7.2 included)
Then just click on Backup/Restore at the top, and you'll get a list of all your apps. If you don't have backup/restore at the top, your sd card isn't mounted on the phone, unplug your usb cable and hit Menu > More > Reload application.
From Backup/Restore, you get a huge list of all the apps on your phone. Just scroll down to the AT&T stuff, tap them, and click uninstall in the top-right corner. If you're not sure if you want to uninstall something, because it might belong to something important, click Freeze instead. Freezing will stop the app from running, and stop it from showing up in your tray, but you can easily unfreeze it to restore it if it turns out it was important.
Here's the list of stuff I have frozen/uninstalled:
AdService 1.0
all of the "AT&T" apps
all of the "com.motorola" apps
Data Manager and Data Manager Service
Help Center
Home (I use ADWLauncher, don't remove this if you don't already have an alternative launcher installed)
MediaSync
Mobile Video
all of the "MotoBlur" apps
My Uploads
Phone Portal
Quick Contact
Social Messaging, Social Messaging Service, Social Networking, and Social Status
Sticky Note
Video Editor Lite
Vlingo Voice
Weather 2.1
WHERE
Work Contacts
Mobile Banking
Magic Smoke Wallpapers
Kodak Perfect Touch
AT&T Address Book
Quickoffice
YPmobile
As for enabling unknown sources, it's a bit of a pain, you'll need to be comfortable with a command line to do replace the files, and comfortable with a hex editor if you want to edit your own instead of reusing someone else's files. I managed to screw up my phone in the process and had to completely reflash and start over, it wasn't fun.
His instructions do work, but his .sh file doesn't work, you'll need to paste the commands one by one into your command prompt. I preferred to edit my own files, so I wouldn't have the same market ID, and that's just slightly more complex. I can help you through it either way though, just make a post over in that thread if you're having problems.
bubba90744 said:
Maybe one of you guys can help. I'm new to alot of this but my last droid x was rooted and it was great I used z4root worked perfectly. But now I have a new X and a z4root apk. On my laptop, now what? Last rooted X, I was fortunate enough to catch z4root on the market, like a day before they updated. HELP!!!!!
Sent from my DROIDX using XDA App
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You just need to get z4root installed on your phone, it should be pretty straightforward. The Droid X shouldn't be blocking non-market apps, so just download it from your phone and run the .apk to install.

So do I hook my phone up to my laptop, and put the apk. on my sd?
Or download the apk. directly to my phone from the site?
Sent from my DROIDX using XDA App

I found the link, but the directions are too complicated for my novice understanding of technology. It looks like I am stuck. I don't want to try what he's saying and take any chances. Are there any other alternatives? Or do you have any other suggestions as to how to make the most of the space that I do have with the att bloatware, because I am constantly running out of room. It is a strange phenomenon that I don't understand, that when I turn on the phone it will have around 40mb to play with, and after a few hours it is down to 16 and then 10, and then before I know it, the phone is telling me that my memory is full. So then I reset and it's back to ~40 again. Do you have an explanation? Thanks.

[howto]remove android market regional restriction

I am using P7510 wifi only model and living in China. These I tried varies methods and finally found the way to remove the market regional restriction without vpn.
I am using overcome 1.1 with pershoot kernel, which is based on a 3G rom I think(not sure if this helps or not).
1. install market access and fake tmobile provider
2. remove google account and disable network and gps location service
3. force close market and clear data
4. open market, add back my google account
5. now I can see all the paid apps and download them without error like "this item cannot be installed in your country".
ps. not sure market access will work on a wifi only rom.

Thanks for your post. I have struggled with market access every since bringing my tablet to China. I have found ways around it, but they are painful and only temporary.
I can verify that market access will not work on an wifi only version. It is interesting that you have flashed yours with a 3G version of ROM. I have wondered if this would then work and obviously it does. I am also using pershoots kernel but just flashed tasks new ROM and really do not want to change to another one. I have often thought that we just need to use some of the 3G settings in the build.prop to make the marketaccess program work but I have not seen confirmation of this.
Can you point me to the exact 3G ROM you are using? Thanks.

I am using overcome 1.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1275751
but since its based on 3g rom, it gave me headache setting up exchange mail, and imap won't retrieve any mail, only pop3 works. I am waiting for overcome 1.1.1 which reverts back to wifi only rom and should resolve the email problem, but then market access may not work.......

macoy said:
I am using P7510 wifi only model and living in China. These I tried varies methods and finally found the way to remove the market regional restriction without vpn.
I am using overcome 1.1 with pershoot kernel, which is based on a 3G rom I think(not sure if this helps or not).
1. install market access and fake tmobile provider
2. remove google account and disable network and gps location service
3. force close market and clear data
4. open market, add back my google account
5. now I can see all the paid apps and download them without error like "this item cannot be installed in your country".
ps. not sure market access will work on a wifi only rom.
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How about after a reboot? I tried Market Access, Market Enabler as well as RootToolbox Pro and neither was able to handle the fake on boot option.

Szadzik said:
How about after a reboot? I tried Market Access, Market Enabler as well as RootToolbox Pro and neither was able to handle the fake on boot option.
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fake on boot didn't work.

macoy said:
fake on boot didn't work.
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That is a shame. I spend a lot of time in a country where paid apps are not available and it is a pain to download the apps to my phone first (Market Enabler fake on boot works perfectly on it) and then copy them to the Tab, but what can one do. Maybe someone will come up with something better.

ximoosea said:
Thanks for your post. I have struggled with market access every since bringing my tablet to China. I have found ways around it, but they are painful and only temporary.
I can verify that market access will not work on an wifi only version. It is interesting that you have flashed yours with a 3G version of ROM. I have wondered if this would then work and obviously it does. I am also using pershoots kernel but just flashed tasks new ROM and really do not want to change to another one. I have often thought that we just need to use some of the 3G settings in the build.prop to make the marketaccess program work but I have not seen confirmation of this.
Can you point me to the exact 3G ROM you are using? Thanks.
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great news. I install overcome rom 1.2 which is back to wifi base, and my method works!!!

Very interesting and thanks for the feedback. I assume you flashed with the 1.2 version for the 7510 (Wifi only version) and this is what you say is now working? Or did you flash again with the 7500 version of 1.2?
I may try to flash with the 7510 and see if that fixed the market problem even though I had not previously flashed the 7500 version. I can't believe this will work but may give it a try.

care to answer some questions for a newbie?

recently i flashed overcome's p7500 rom and i like it a lot. i didn't know anything about kies before that, and after flashing i couldn't get my device recognized by kies.
1- is this because my csc changed when i flashed a custom rom?
2- does my csc change when i flash a custom rom?
i dont give **** about warranty etc. i just want the best for my device. so i'll probably update my device everytime overcome relaeses an updated rom.
3- so, am i missing anything by not using kies?
4- i'm from turkey and paid apps are not availible in market for my country. does changing csc will make them availible?
5- does changing csc will benefit me in any way other than the paid app problem?
6- can you offer any modifications (besides pershoot's or riego's kernel)
also many thanks to all developers in this forum, i was hating my device before i met you guys. keep up the good work.

bump! nothing? cmon guys someone got to know answers to these. i also want to add that:
7- Are apps stored in root directory or sd card section which doesnt effect from wipe?

3. Nothing AFAIK. I haven't used it till now.
6. You can try out the Touchscreen sensitivity solution in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1336464
7. If you are wiping from Stock Recovery then everything including sdcard partition will be wiped.
If you are wiping from CWM Recovery then only data and cache partition will be wiped. sdcard partition will be intact.
I don't know rest of the answers as i own a wifi tab and Market is available here

Yes i have tried that touchscreen app but i didnt notice any difference tbh. I didnt have any sensitivtity issues tough maybe it's an issue on wifi tabs

Its very visible when you draw something like while using pen memo
Sent from my GT-P7510

1. Kies reckognises only stock ROM's. Overcome is modded.
2. Usualy yes. If you use multiCSC then you have 1st rom on the list installed. (experience from my SGS and zillion of flashing)
3. No, nothing at all. It's "%&#@%$£" anyway.
4. No need. Root device, use Market enabler from market, fake provider to T-mobile and that is it. But only if your country is on google checkout list. If it is not, your credit card will not be accepted.
5. On SGS I haven't notice any significant changes.
6. No. I have P1010 and I think I'll get me one P7510, so I don't know the device yet. For now I can't suggest nothing.
7. Answered. But warning, if you change CSC all settings are going to stock. Including apps.

stenc55 said:
1. Kies reckognises only stock ROM's. Overcome is modded.
2. Usualy yes. If you use multiCSC then you have 1st rom on the list installed. (experience from my SGS and zillion of flashing)
3. No, nothing at all. It's "%&#@%$£" anyway.
4. No need. Root device, use Market enabler from market, fake provider to T-mobile and that is it. But only if your country is on google checkout list. If it is not, your credit card will not be accepted.
5. On SGS I haven't notice any significant changes.
6. No. I have P1010 and I think I'll get me one P7510, so I don't know the device yet. For now I can't suggest nothing.
7. Answered. But warning, if you change CSC all settings are going to stock. Including apps.
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thanks for your clear response. turkey is on the google checkout list, in fact i've been using it since last year. i tried market enabler before, i faked my provider to T-mobile as you said and finally i could access US market but still it didn't allow me to purchase anything although i purchased many software from google in past

I allso have problem with my P1010 (wifi only). I can't search or download anything. But I can buy whatever I want for my SGS (weird). So I buy and download to phone and transfer it to tab.

tofasmp3 said:
thanks for your clear response. turkey is on the google checkout list, in fact i've been using it since last year. i tried market enabler before, i faked my provider to T-mobile as you said and finally i could access US market but still it didn't allow me to purchase anything although i purchased many software from google in past
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Do you have an android phone? Use market enabler on there to purchase your apps. They should then be available to you when you click 'my apps' in market (listed at the bottom under heading installed apps) from your tab. Install from there.