Arc vs nexus s - Xperia Arc General

I sent my captivate today for return to Rogers and waiting April 14 for nexus s or 18-21st for arc. But can't decide which one. What you guys think? And why?
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Go for nexus s. As Sony sucks with updates and you will get update first with NS since its a Google phone

Arc for ant +.
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I say Arc cuz I think it looks better an ha better specs plus Sony said they knkow how important and are growing hence gingerbread on arc
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i think arc is better too...
-nexus s is the most bad phone i have ever seen!!
-arc is more beautiful!
-arc has better camera!!(censor is using by sony's professional digital cameras!
and the guy said buy nexus,he is one of those who bought x10 and is upset and disappointed because of it's update!!

Arc kicks ass I believe, getting mine tomorrow.
SE is more serious now about updates I think, and Arc is very well equipped.

Hi - You don't need to worry about SE updating the Arc... it will happen.. I have been "enroled" into a SE UK Elite Testlab and met with the MD of SE UK last week.. they are totally committed to getting this right and fully appreciate how important it is to keep the Android versions upto date for a reasonable length of time.. as well as more minor UI upgrades in between..

Arc any day of the week and twice on Sundays!
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So only thing arc has *its beautiful* and better camera? That's it? Lol
I bet Sony Ericsson did same stuff like before like x10 where you plug 3rd party earbuds with mic and they wont work. So you have to buy their crappy earbuds

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Hi - You don't need to worry about SE updating the Arc... it will happen.. I have been "enroled" into a SE UK Elite Testlab and met with the MD of SE UK last week.. they are totally committed to getting this right and fully appreciate how important it is to keep the Android versions upto date for a reasonable length of time.. as well as more minor UI upgrades in between..
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I would like to add an example to that,
R800i ( Xperia Play ) was released in UK between 31/3 and 1st/4...
three days later, they already made an update on the air to fix a minor bug...
Now if you don't consider that keeping you updated and as a great support then I'm not sure what will be

sofia-captivate said:
So only thing arc has *its beautiful* and better camera? That's it? Lol
I bet Sony Ericsson did same stuff like before like x10 where you plug 3rd party earbuds with mic and they wont work. So you have to buy their crappy earbuds
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I just laugh at you're posts
really... what are you doing here anyway? spamming with your useless comments will do no good

I have used the Nexus S and now have the Arc...
Arc is so much better... Looks stunning too

I have to admit that I always consider getting the Nexus S but they never had it on 850 3G till recently and they have it white too and I was investigating. reason is that Google makes the android and S is a Google phone therefore you get updates on time(supposedly) but then I always find myself going back to SE.
It would be nice if you could review a comparison with two phones little details as I can see the specs on website.
Only thing pisses me off right now @ this moment is that no one carries arc in the US and even if they do, it would be ATT with the crappy service and its not available yet.
NA sucks in terms of getting new technologies on time.

Rogers is getting nexus s on 14th and also arc on 14-21st.
Arc is 549$ with no contract. Promo is 99$ on 3 year agreement after that $399 on 3 year contract WOW
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I have to admit that I always consider getting the Nexus S but they never had it on 850 3G till recently and they have it white too and I was investigating. reason is that Google makes the android and S is a Google phone therefore you get updates on time(supposedly) but then I always find myself going back to SE.
It would be nice if you could review a comparison with two phones little details as I can see the specs on website.
Only thing pisses me off right now @ this moment is that no one carries arc in the US and even if they do, it would be ATT with the crappy service and its not available yet.
NA sucks in terms of getting new technologies on time.
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sofia-captivate said:
Arc is 549$ with no contract.
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Is that price official? I didn't see them actually selling it yet for out of contract?

Yep its official 100% also confirm on phone. Here is also a link http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/04/04/complete-pricing-revealed-for-the-rogers-xperia-play-and-arc/
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Is that price official? I didn't see them actually selling it yet for out of contract?
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So with that being said, we should be having some signs of arc on ebay and other re-sellers for UMTS 850 in next couple of weeks.

Between the Arc and the Nexus S...
I say this grudgingly... get the Arc. Samsung Phones have GREAT hardware... but I never liked the galaxy S' build quality.
Between the Arc and the Desire HD? Desire HD ALL THE WAY.
Desire HD has Noise Cancellation + better build quality + SLCD Screen

Maedhros said:
Between the Arc and the Nexus S...
I say this grudgingly... get the Arc. Samsung Phones have GREAT hardware... but I never liked the galaxy S' build quality.
Between the Arc and the Desire HD? Desire HD ALL THE WAY.
Desire HD has Noise Cancellation + better build quality + SLCD Screen
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hmmm, Noise Cancellation is available with Arc, so I'd say Better build quality + SLCD screen

Wow dont even think about Desire HD - its awsome to play around with custom roms and the build quality is good (even dough the plastik covers on the back tend to make a noise every time i grab the phone) BUT
Desire HD
- Camera sucks big time!! No comparison to arc !
- its to heavy ( dont try to hold it over your head while reading in bed)
- screen on DHD is so washed out compared to arc its really like greyish in comparison
On Desire HD there are always about 20% cpu usage due to al the sense modifications
And here we come to the worst part - battery is just bad (and I had every custom rom and kernel that is available on my DHD)
I got trough the day but with nothing left while with the arc even the first day finished with 45% left
Sorry but I had to get that one out couse DHD is really nice for winter time when I was always able to charge it but now in spring when your on the go its just not enough battery.
Go for the arc its even cheaper where I live (germany)
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May be getting offerd a new contract due to the faults on my x10 - what phone?

Well being on my second handset and having serious problems the that even the shop cannot get sony to sort out [virtually un usable reboots + overheating] I may be getting offered a new contract if they can rather than a 3rd x10. What would you go for? UK - Orange, thinking desire HD. Love my x10 appart from all the problems with my un-luckiness but never mind will be glad to be rid of the problems
Desire HD is great, but everybody sais that the battery last only for a half day. If I were you I would get a Nexus S or a Galaxy S (maybe Desire Z)
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Dont think they have it in phones4u yet
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Dont think they have it in phones4u yet
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To tell the truth I don't really know the possibilities in thr UK, all I know is that you can buy it, but maybe not at orange
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Desire HD or Nexus S :-D
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One of the nexus phones or Desire HD. Or that moto droid 2 global. Dunno if moto will update it though
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Well being on my second handset and having serious problems the that even the shop cannot get sony to sort out [virtually un usable reboots + overheating] I may be getting offered a new contract if they can rather than a 3rd x10. What would you go for? UK - Orange, thinking desire HD. Love my x10 appart from all the problems with my un-luckiness but never mind will be glad to be rid of the problems
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4G capable.
Anything not maunfactured by Sony Ericsson.
Do you think you could get a short term phone.. and then arc?
I think stock android is extremely ugly. And also, the Nexus S isn't exactly a looker... might be hard to adjust from the X10
I say wait for the Arc
I think you'd have to be retarded to buy an arc personally.. after seeing how they do business.
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I think you'd have to be retarded to buy an arc personally.. after seeing how they do business.
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Agree 100%
better to get Galaxy S . HTC's service is good but i didn't like most of their smartphones i bought (Pure - HD - Diamond ) And they have a bad signal and battery doesn't last long.
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I think you'd have to be retarded to buy an arc personally.. after seeing how they do business.
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Couldn't agree with you more. I actually went through X1, X2 and X10 before I woke up.
You won't have to worry about buying the Arc anyway. It will be released 6-9 months late like every other SE "flagship".
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Couldn't agree with you more. I actually went through X1, X2 and X10 before I woke up.
You won't have to worry about buying the Arc anyway. It will be released 6-9 months late like every other SE "flagship".
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kinda long wait but i might say it will come out till 2.3 gets old
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I think stock android is extremely ugly. And also, the Nexus S isn't exactly a looker... might be hard to adjust from the X10
I say wait for the Arc
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I actually think the blue SE skin looks dreadful.
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I also think you should go for the Arc at least i am. I have been extremely happy with the X10 and dont really care about SE Updates being late as all i care is being able to mod it and have devs supporting it. All the people complaining from SE are just ...idk you decide, just look at all other companies Apple, Samsung, Htc they all have their own problems just look in their forums and see the same story..people screaming f..k Samsung never again f...k Htc etc.. I really do a lot and i mean alot of research before i buy a phone and let me tell you the x10 suited me alot more than a galaxy s or a desire or an iphone and ive had the galaxy s (just horrible phone...fast but unreliable plastic garbage so i said never Samsung) and i still have an iphone 4 well my wife does..that phone is so limited its not even funny..anyway all im saying is do not listen to never SE again and etc.. SE have been making nothing but great reliable devices. Now the Arc is coming with the latest software so i dont think you should worry about any updates soon and plus x10 has a very good comunity here and i beleive the Arc will also and it will probably be the same people that own the x10 and more. Do your research and see what you like and what you want to do with the phone, remember its what you like not someone else.
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I think you'd have to be retarded to buy an arc personally.. after seeing how they do business.
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I think they are changing their strategy.. they admitted that they went about the X10 series in the wrong way.. I'm going to wait for the Q2 flagship, which should be a dualcore with ffc(not that i need one) but it will be a lot snappier I hope
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I think they are changing their strategy.. they admitted that they went about the X10 series in the wrong way.. I'm going to wait for the Q2 flagship, which should be a dualcore with ffc(not that i need one) but it will be a lot snappier I hope
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By saying "We know we made mistakes..... butttt we aren't going to do anything about it", they are simply trying to convince previous customers this experience will be better, while at the same time winning over new customers who might have heard bad things about the x10, et al.
Just a lame marketing ploy. Now, if they were willing to actually step up and at least give us froyo, I, for one, would change my tune greatly.
I would be telling my friends to get the arc instead of the opposite (as I do love my x10, thanks to the community on here.), as I just hate the way sony ericsson choose to do business.
The Arc looks so good, I'm willing to forgive any of SE's sins
One device I'd really like to have in the interim is a Desire Z. 1.8Ghz baby
The Desire Z (T-mobile G2) is almost universally considered to be a good device. Better battery life than Desire HD i think. LOTS of developer support.
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Anything not maunfactured by Sony Ericsson.
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Too right, never getting an SE phone again.
Nexus is my next phone... in 23 months lol :|

{Resolved...please close thread}[Suggestions Please] New phone for teenage daughter

Hello all,
My teenage daughter has been pestering for a blackberry, but I have managed to convince her an android phone is better
Now here is the point. I want a contract (About £20 -£25 a month max) on vodafone...what is the best to get.....
You know me, even though it will be my daughters I will be playing with it, rooting, flashing etc...
I can see xperia ray for £20.50 with tripple minutes on offer...but I am not to sure about other, non sony, makes...
I do like SE but would be happy to experiment...
Please list the suggestions and why I should go with it
I'm not sure if she'll be happy when you will be playing on her phone
But I think a XPERIA Ray is a good choice, it's goodlooking for girls.
Beside that, I know a few girls that have got a SGS2, and are absolutely loving it. They love the thin design of the phone the most. I'm not sure about the prices you could get the phone for in your country, but if it's possible you could ask her if she wants the SGS2.
It's just a advice without knowing exactly what she (or you) want to buy for her. What is the max. size the phone should be? Is there any limit? I would recommend to not get a phone with a screen bigger then 4.3inch, except for the Galaxy Nexus. But that one will be too expensive I guess Does she prefer any colour?
I'd be glad to help you, if you answer my two questions
Absolutely no other requirements....she wont mind me playing with it cos she knows I can get the good stuff on it for her and make it look good.
So, its what I can get her with the best possibility of me having a play with a new phone really...
I want her to have a decent camera (SE looks good here), good memory, fast (She likes games, like angry birds, cut the rope etc), good sound (So i dont have to replace her i(diot)pod), thats about it.....it will be hers, but I want to flash!!!!
Greg,arc s is a good choice mate =)
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Greg,arc s is a good choice mate =)
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why....sell it to me like you needed the sale..
If you'd go for the camera, you should choose the XPERIA Ray in my opinion. It has great sensors. Games like that will run easily on this phone, BUT the rooting part. This phone doesn't have many development going on. I don't think it will be the right choice if you'd like to mod the phone...
Personally I'd not go for any HTC phone... Why? I think their designs look like some kind of old bald fridge lol!
The phones I'd recommend you, without being a fanboy are:
Samsung:
- SGS2
- SGS Plus (you should watch some reviews about the camera, I'm not sure about it...)
- Galaxy Nexus, if possible within the price limit
Sony:
- XPERIA Ray, just simple and beautiful...
- XPERIA Mini (Pro)?
- XPERIA Arc (S)? This one is big, but much easier to typ etc...
HTC:
This is the hardest part of all, you may like the design. The phone I'd recommend here is the HTC Sensation/HTC Sensation XE?
You could also get the Desire S? I personally would go for a Samsung/Sony Ericsson one.
Motorola:
None, had bad experiences with this brand... Same as with LG...
LG:
One of the worst manufacturers for mobile phones. Same as with Motorola. I think these brands are just focused money, and not any other thing.
I personally own the SGS2, and I must say, the camera is good, not the best... But it's for sure OK. I'm not aware of any other (maybe) good phone.
If you'd get a phone, you should mostly read reviews, and decide by yourself, before you blame anyone for giving your daughter (and you?) a bad phone.
Again, for modding take a Samsung or HTC device.
This is my advice, any additions from others are welcome.
A very good response.
Of course I will decide myself and not blame anyone here for advice
Thanks for telling me the ray doesnt have much development....
I will wait to see what others say
Forgot to tell you, try visiting with your daughter a local phone shop, like The Phone House or w/e. I don't life in your country, so I'm not aware of the stores out there. Visit a phone shop, ask for advice, maybe get a hands-on on some devices! In shops here, there are many show models of the newest smartphones.
Any question left? Feel free to ask
http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/mo...tworks=&tariffContract=&gift=&clearance=false
htc desire s good spec 1gb iterbal front camera and everyones favourite htc sense widgets £15.50 a month
HTC phones have awesome build quality actually, and really nice slcd displays.
Incredible s is a great phone, as is desire s... Both definitely very cheap and good choices.
Sgs2 is awesome of course.
Sensation.
Ray is actually nicely built, and has a great display. Could use more ram imo and the screen is too small for me. Nice phone though.
Did you see the HTC bliss? Its purple and made for girls..
There are a lot of choices, lots of sales this time of year too
Arc s has a good camera,iPhone 4s stole the specs from it.decent battery life,is a nice looking phone and easy to root etc. Similar to x10
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Arc s has a good camera,iPhone 4s stole the specs from it.decent battery life,is a nice looking phone and easy to root etc. Similar to x10
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not enough ram imo..
Also why not just buy the arc and overclock it yourself? It would be cheaper and literally the same thing.
The arc does suffer from poor build quality though, id get the ray or neo first actually.
Htc phones have bad build quality unless you get a top spec 1 but sense is ugly
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Htc phones have bad build quality unless you get a top spec 1 but sense is ugly
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nope, build quality is way better than plasticy se imo...
Sense is ugly? Lol
Way nicer than uxp with the dock bar that takes up half the screen lol
Also at least it's functional. Timescape is useless
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sorry to threadjack, the rabid fanboyism just gets to me...
Good phones are good phones, regardless of "brand loyalty"..
I gave several responses, including se ones.
I like phones, not brand names. I never got this commercialist perspective where you back a brand like it's a favorite sports team or something.
I'm no fanboy Scooby,but yea I like Samsung,Sony for android,tried htc can't get into them dunno why
Oh and the arc s is actually cheaper than the arc so the overclocking thing youvsaid don't make sense mate
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I'm no fanboy Scooby,but yea I like Samsung,Sony for android,tried htc can't get into them dunno why
Oh and the arc s is actually cheaper than the arc so the overclocking thing youvsaid don't make sense mate
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it isn't here :S it's pretty expensive!
I find HTC just uses metal and stuff, I can understand not liking sense but their build quality really is spectacular even if you find the designs bland..
I was pleasently surprised by sgs2, it's plasticy but can take a beating. I saw a few drop tests
Yea true,I want galaxy s2 next.arc is more than arc s here weird
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You playing with ur teenagers phone?
I can see the battle coming
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How about a HTC rhyme
It is a pretty piece , the girl version of HTC Desire S
Very neat hardware , good to experiment
Or xperia neo v
Good camera , pretty cheap
I would not recommend ray
The display is not great
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spaarc said:
How about a HTC rhyme
It is a pretty piece , the girl version of HTC Desire S
Very neat hardware , good to experiment
Or xperia neo v
Good camera , pretty cheap
I would not recommend ray
The display is not great
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do you mean size wise not great?
I saw one in the TELUS store and it looked amazing. It's smaller with a high resolution therefore high pixel density..
Reviews often praise the display

Xperia Arc S or HTC Sensation XL ?

Hey guys!
I'm planning to buy a new phone in 2 weeks ..
I'm confused between these two .. Xperia Arc S and Sensation XL ..
Any recommendations or guidance from the users of these phones
What i like about the XL :
Massive 4.7" screen
Easier to touch-type
Beats audio
What i like about the Arc S :
Sharper screen (233 ppi) despite the small size (4.3"), comparing to the XL's 4.7" and (199 ppi)
The cool looks !
The upcoming official ICS will look great on the that phone
Both processors are fast .. 1.4 and 1.5
Taking into account that I lOVE the new ICS look and i'd love to have it on my next phone .. While i can only have it on the Arc S because of CM support .. And i don't know how to get that look on the Sensation XL because of the lack of suport and the too little ROMs availablity
By what you said, get Arc S, or wait a little more for Xperia S. Both will get ICS until june. Arc S is going to get stable CM9 soon, and I'm sure there will be some guys from FreeXperiaTeam (who work with CM in 2011 Xperia devices) working ASAP on Xperia S.
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You ask that question in an Xperia Arc forum? Are you dumb or something?
i had just pick up an arc a month ago..i just take it primarily because of it good looks other than that sony promise of official ice cream samndwish and a remote chance that the arc get Playstation store outside of japan..
but i don't see if both arc and sensation gonna be relevent by the 3rq quarters of this year.as i change phone every year, the arc fits the time frame..but if u wanna kept your phone lots longer, get a dual core
I'd say Arc S
Has a micro sd slot which the XL doesn't have.
If the XL had dualcore I'd go with that but it hasn't and 100Mhz are no difference.
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+1 to arcS... HTC is too expancive... What are you paying for? Half of inch? Wright question is arcS or Sensation XE... Dual core, great display, Beats Audio... And looks great to. I would prefer SE because I am a BIG fan of it... And you can go to the store, take both of them in yor hands and decide...
Seems like the Arc S is a winner for me. The charisma and charm of this phone is irresistible. However, I'm considering the upcoming Xperia S too .. Just Hoping it won't be too expensive
this HTC comes with a internal 16G memory and 768 MB ram - these are more critical factors for performance. correct me if i am wrong?
Ok, RAM is a big plus.
But for me the 16GB non-expandable memory (?) are too less, so no-go. I have ~23GB on my phone.
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Arc S - easy choice for me.. the Sensation XL is a big ugly brick!.. or if you want to wait till end of March - Xperia S - I'd wait!
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Arc S - easy choice for me.. the Sensation XL is a big ugly brick!.. or if you want to wait till end of March - Xperia S - I'd wait!
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That's exactly what I'm planning for
Go for galaxy s2
Its the best!(till now)
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Go for galaxy s2
Its the best!(till now)
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Yes, till now. But after Sony XPERIA S comes out... I don't think so!
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Yes, till now. But after Sony XPERIA S comes out... I don't think so!
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I read somewhere, and it has been an "aaaaah yeah..." moment for me,
that we shouldn't compare SE phones with Samsung and HTC phones.
They are not at all about the hardware or the Android version.
They fill in the gap between the people who are hardcore users and spec enthusiasts and those who have no idea about smartphones.
They are targetting people who are OK with having a really beautiful phone, advanced camera function and good hardware, not necessarily top-of-the-top.
And even though XDA forums are normally not a place for such people, you can't deny the very existense of such target group.
Seeing it like this, you can understand why they haven't joined the hardware race that Samsung and HTC are running atm.
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Yes, till now. But after Sony XPERIA S comes out... I don't think so!
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Yes until the gs3 comes out then once again samsung goes back on top
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iridaki said:
I read somewhere, and it has been an "aaaaah yeah..." moment for me,
that we shouldn't compare SE phones with Samsung and HTC phones.
They are not at all about the hardware or the Android version.
They fill in the gap between the people who are hardcore users and spec enthusiasts and those who have no idea about smartphones.
They are targetting people who are OK with having a really beautiful phone, advanced camera function and good hardware, not necessarily top-of-the-top.
And even though XDA forums are normally not a place for such people, you can't deny the very existense of such target group.
Seeing it like this, you can understand why they haven't joined the hardware race that Samsung and HTC are running atm.
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Thumbs up, dude
I'd wait for the new line. but if you're in haste i'd take Arc S or Galaxy Note depending on the price ofcourse.
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I'd wait for the new line. but if you're in haste i'd take Arc S or Galaxy Note depending on the price ofcourse.
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I was tempted by Note because of it's size and power etc. as I could eventually get one for free,
but this device is NOT impressive.
The screen - again - looks like oversaturated **** and the UI is actually disgusting.
I quit after 5 minutes of playing with it.
BTW the performance when just fiddling with it was actually mediocre.
Xperia S is worth wait, as far I have seen after AOSP Sony has one of the best UI and they aren't in the race for great hardware spec like other which just made Dual core devices without software support for it. Sony waited to release dual core when it's necessary i.e. As far as I know ICS is optimized for Dual core. So when they started rolling out ICS update they started to make dual core devices. But if you looking to brag about the spec then sure go for SGS 3 that might out
My 2 cents

Upgrade from Arc S?

Hey guys, looking for some advice. I bought an arc s about 4 months ago to replace my dying x10i and I've been very happy with it, however it's starting to feel a bit dated and I don't know what would be a good upgrade. I have an excellent sim only contract so would like to buy a handset upfront, but I don't want to spend silly money.
I have installed ics and really like the experience, however the occasional lag is quite annoying. I think I just want a decent handset with more ram really, but I think a galaxy s2 would be equally dated in another 4 months.
I just bought an iPad 3 and really enjoy how nippy it is, I've been considering moving over to iPhone for my next phone..lout would have to wait and see what comes out this fall.
I dunno....maybe I just need to be patient but though I would check I'm not missing some super secret , perfect phone I haven't seen yet! Would. A Sony Xperia P be a good replacement for an arc s? Seems almost the same specs but double the ram... Thoughts?
Well as you are now forever locked into Apple as a single hardware supplier for your tablet, are you prepared to buy separate apps for your phone?
If so, then I would look at the Xperia S... If you aren't, then sell your iPad3, buy a decent Android tablet and a Xperia S.
My brother purchased an iphone4, i asked him if he new he would be restricted with apps, roms and hardware, he said yes its not a problem for him. Hes now wanting to be shot of it, every update destroys his jailbreak and it eats into his time putting it back again. In short he now wishes he hadn't gone down the apple route, although both he and i agree its a nice bit of kit just a bit restricted if you like fiddling and playing with software i guess. Each to their own i suppose. I think his main gripe is with the constant use of i tunes software for his films and movies. I rather like the look of that new hyabusa ? Very much Arc looking but slightly more updated specs, not sure it will be near top of the pops still when its launched here but that's never really bothered me as long as it does what i want it too alls good and rosey. More ram and dual core with a bigger screen will have to see how it sits in the hand. I picked up the SGS II last year and for me it didnt feel good in the hand so left it there i know my arc isnt bleeding edge far from it, butt eh screen is decent and it is comfortable, hope the hyabusa feels the same just hope it doesnt come with too high a price tag.
Well I'm quite happy with the stock ipad experience and quite happy to do the majority of my app purchases for gaming etc on that platform.
For my mobile, I don't play games or watch movies often... It's mostly Facebook, messaging, browsing etc. I know I could make do with a midrange phone for that but I like to be upto date and have a fast user experience. The xperia s feels a little too big when I've used it and I worry it will be the usual Sony affair and not be as fast as it should be with those specs.
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I saw the reworked arc s, harabusa or however it's spelt heh. That would be perfect but no idea when I could get one or how much it will be
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jomil said:
The xperia s feels a little too big when I've used it and I worry it will be the usual Sony affair and not be as fast as it should be with those specs.
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Well I don't have an Xperia S, but I have played with a entry level XPeria U, and it's Lightening fast, so much faster than my Xperia ARC S, which seems to be hobbled by too little RAM.
If you are a woman who has no time or need for Android development, who has no idea about hardware and wants something stable, buy your iPhone now and never look back... Android will not satisfy you, Xperia S, NXT whatnot ....
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Bushmaster78FS said:
If you are a woman who has no time or need for Android development, who has no idea about hardware and wants something stable, buy your iPhone now and never look back... Android will not satisfy you, Xperia S, NXT whatnot ....
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Errr okay, I'm not a woman. Thanks for that sexist comment though. I love tinkering with android and really don't see the point in having an iPad AND an iPhone, it's nice to have the best of both. All I'm concerned about is getting a decent upgrade which will last me.
How can it be that the Xperia U is faster than the S? That's not reassuring...often phones feel nippy when new and nothing installed. Or maybe the S will improve with ICS? I am considering getting an S as I could grab one for around £200
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Errr okay, I'm not a woman. Thanks for that sexist comment though. I love tinkering with android and really don't see the point in having an iPad AND an iPhone, it's nice to have the best of both. All I'm concerned about is getting a decent upgrade which will last me.
How can it be that the Xperia U is faster than the S? That's not reassuring...often phones feel nippy when new and nothing installed. Or maybe the S will improve with ICS? I am considering getting an S as I could grab one for around £200
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The remark is basically inspired from what I have seen with my wife... She's a technology illiterate and iPhone did the trick for her. She had a decent android phone which basically "never worked right", regardless of updates etc. IPhone is a dumbed down version of android with no possibility to customize, with pretty eye candy, sold at a premium price ... IPad is the big brother... You catch my drift ... I just can't believe you spent money on an iPad ... But that's just me and nothing personal ...
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no problems fella. I just spent the last few hours unlocking my bootloader, changing the baseband, flashing a new kernel and loading arconium v2 onto my Arc S. Feeling pretty smug as I haven't done anything more than root a phone before... the phone is truely flying! Should last me another few months now.
Hurrah!
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How can it be that the Xperia U is faster than the S? That's not reassuring...
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Sorry, typo, missed out the ARC bit..
The Xperia U feels REALLY fast compared to my ARC S
But then it's got a low-res display, so it's less for the GPU to drive, perhaps???? It's also Gingerbread not ICS....
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no problems fella. I just spent the last few hours unlocking my bootloader, changing the baseband, flashing a new kernel and loading arconium v2 onto my Arc S. Feeling pretty smug as I haven't done anything more than root a phone before... the phone is truely flying! Should last me another few months now.
Hurrah!
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I suggest you to try JJHIBRID ROM. I was about to sell my arc S but when I tried this rom, I decided it will be good for another half a year.
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CrazyPeter said:
Sorry, typo, missed out the ARC bit..
The Xperia U feels REALLY fast compared to my ARC S
But then it's got a low-res display, so it's less for the GPU to drive, perhaps???? It's also Gingerbread not ICS....
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You know ARC S Rocks! too with GB
Bushmaster78FS said:
If you are a woman who has no time or need for Android development, who has no idea about hardware and wants something stable, buy your iPhone now and never look back... Android will not satisfy you, Xperia S, NXT whatnot ....
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That was down right sexist. Don't judge the whole mankind by one example. I'm a girl and would never sell my soul to the devil (read: Apple). Love Linux (Mint) and Android, and I'm quite an average ROM and kernel flasher.
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I suggest you to try JJHIBRID ROM. I was about to sell my arc S but when I tried this rom, I decided it will be good for another half a year.
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JJ's Hybrid ROM 3.2 was a fresh new beginning for my S-less arc. I'm not your average rich person who changes phones every 2 weeks, but I wouldn't even think about selling my arc if it wasn't for the super bad quality of the housing (cracks, etc.).
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No it wasn't sexist... .... It is not only one example that runs blind behind the stupid iphone bandwagon... Did you miss the pink otter boxes being sold everywhere for that precious iphone? You are or seem to be an exception...
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No it wasn't sexist... .... It is not only one example that runs blind behind the stupid iphone bandwagon... Did you miss the pink otter boxes being sold everywhere for that precious iphone? You are or seem to be an exception...
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Um, I happen to see more guys with iCrappers than girls in my country.
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sunbriel said:
Um, I happen to see more guys with iCrappers than girls in my country.
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Lol we are talking about an exceptional country here...
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Lol we are talking about an exceptional country here...
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I see more Samsungs and HTCs, with a bit of Sony (Ericsson) here and there. Apple might aim the female buyers, but it's far from being woman's only phone-friend. And I see you're from the States - the weird part of the world full of parents who buy their 4 yo an iCrapper to play with. I've always found US Americans super weird people.
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Truth be told I know plenty of guys, in military, flying attack helicopters, and drooling over iphones... Best they could do is jailbreak it and change the toolbar color... Whoop de doo... I played with my wife's 3gs... Simplified crap. I merely have Sony because all I own consumer electronics wise is Sony... Arc is an ok phone. But even with ion they are behind the power curve... If I were you I'd use that arc with their latest GB... Heck come up 250 bucks I can sell you my arc S. They fixed the Crack issue with arc S... Mine is brand new though
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Just to let you all know, I bought a galaxy s3 lol will let you know how much I like it!
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Hmmm might cancel my Xperia z pre order

Am currently watching the HTC One announcement of their new phone. Have to say, looks pretty awesome, seriously considering cancelling my xz order and waiting for the HTC. I have had the HTC One and the HTC One X before, both have awesome screens, and when all the forum posts about the quality, or lack of quality, depending on which post your read, of the xz's screen. Hmmmm, decisions decisions.
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TBH I was thinking the same not long ago but after hearing the new HTC has no memory card slot and only 32gb version. Im not interested atleast 64gb like one x+ would have changed my mind.
R89SONY said:
TBH I was thinking the same not long ago but after hearing the new HTC has no memory card slot and only 32gb version. Im not interested atleast 64gb like one x+ would have changed my mind.
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It comes in 32 and 64 gig options. Need more than 64 gig, get a laptop.
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Am currently watching the HTC One announcement of their new phone. Have to say, looks pretty awesome, seriously considering cancelling my xz order and waiting for the HTC. I have had the HTC One and the HTC One X before, both have awesome screens, and when all the forum posts about the quality, or lack of quality, depending on which post your read, of the xz's screen. Hmmmm, decisions decisions.
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It looks much better than the xperia Z, its amazing.
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you re canceling xperia Z now in two months you ll cancel HTC and order next top phone to get out and in two months you ll cancel that one and the story continues
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TBH I was thinking the same not long ago but after hearing the new HTC has no memory card slot and only 32gb version. Im not interested atleast 64gb like one x+ would have changed my mind.
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I'm sticking me the XZ, yes the HTC One looks nice etc but I change is due for me, this year will be the year for Sony I believe!
Sony z Pros
Better looking (i think)
Water/dust proof (not really something I need)
SD-card
Better dev support
less customized version of android, so possible faster roll out of new versions
HTC One pros
Newer SOC / faster/ less power
Better Screen
More internal memory
probably better speakers (not that i care)
infrared (not that i care)
As for the camera we don't know which will be better, and I don't really care as in the end all camera phones are rubbish
I'm not sure what to do, but looking at the hardware spec list the HTC is the one to get
looking at the software and design I favor the Z
Darn why could HTC just make a ****y phone
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The presentation veld a bit like a teenage phone, that is holding me back as well
stefanve said:
Sony z Pros
Better looking (i think)
Water/dust proof (not really something I need)
SD-card
Better dev support
less customized version of android, so possible faster roll out of new versions
HTC One pros
Newer SOC / faster/ less power
Better Screen
More internal memory
probably better speakers (not that i care)
infrared (not that i care)
As for the camera we don't know which will be better, and I don't really care as in the end all camera phones are rubbish
I'm not sure what to do, but looking at the hardware spec list the HTC is the one to get
looking at the software and design I favor the Z
Darn why could HTC just make a ****y phone
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I'm sorry but the HTC One looks better than the XZ. And better Dev support on the Sony? Please.
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I will see how much the 64gb is on contract.
barondebxl said:
I'm sorry but the HTC One looks better than the XZ. And better Dev support on the Sony? Please.
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Like I said, to me it looks better, no sense in arguing about taste
HTC is famous for being late with the release of kernel source and when they do it is often in a non compilable state, Sony is quicker and better in this respect .
Saying things like "please" isn't an argument.
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Like I said, to me it looks better, no sense in arguing about taste
HTC is famous for being late with the release of kernel source and when they do it is often in a non compilable state, Sony is quicker and better in this respect .
Saying things like "please" isn't an argument.
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It looks better to you is cool but to say sony will roll out updates sooner and better Dev support is funny.
HTC has a large Dev community, LARGE. Mike 1986 is a known HTC guy, and we all know him. And its just one guy that I'm mentioning. This argument about release of kernel source is what you sony guys keep talking about, yet all previous Sony devices aren't relevant today.
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exactly!!! not quite happy with HTC dev support
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It comes in 32 and 64 gig options. Need more than 64 gig, get a laptop.
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There is no such thing as too much space in a multimedia capable device.
To OP: I can't believe you think that anyone cares.
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There is no such thing as too much space in a multimedia capable device.
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Who said too much space? If you cant live with 64 gig then get a laptop with 320 gig or an external hard drive and use Skype to make calls.
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HTC One is a stunning device.
#1 device of 2013.
Sonys Z is suddenly last years tech already lol. Huge failure.
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It looks better to you is cool but to say sony will roll out updates sooner and better Dev support is funny.
HTC has a large Dev community, LARGE. Mike 1986 is a known HTC guy, and we all know him. And its just one guy that I'm mentioning. This argument about release of kernel source is what you sony guys keep talking about, yet all previous Sony devices aren't relevant today.
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I guess it is where you after for most post xperia X10 devices you can get nightlies from CM. and the free xperia guys are doing excellent work to make that happen. You are able to get Android 4.2 on your arc (early 2011) possibly older devices as well, but I don't know as I don't have one. If you count the number of cooked roms it might be less than the one x but that doesn't say anything
Ok finally made my decision! HTC One great!!!!!!!! Non removeable battery? Ok rejected! Sticking with Xperia ZL now once and for all!
Maedhros said:
HTC One is a stunning device.
#1 device of 2013.
Sonys Z is suddenly last years tech already lol. Huge failure.
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once again to late to the party
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I guess it is where you after for most post xperia X10 devices you can get nightlies from CM. and the free xperia guys are doing excellent work. You are able to get Android 4.2 on your arc (early 2011) possibly older devices as well, but I don't know as I don't have one. If you count the number of cooked roms it might be less than the one x but that doesn't say anything
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That doesn't say anything?? Really? I call it larger Dev support.
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Maedhros said:
HTC One is a stunning device.
#1 device of 2013.
Sonys Z is suddenly last years tech already lol. Huge failure.
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There is always something better around the corner. I wasn't expecting the Xperia Z to stay on top anyway.
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I guess it is where you after for most post xperia X10 devices you can get nightlies from CM. and the free xperia guys are doing excellent work to make that happen. You are able to get Android 4.2 on your arc (early 2011) possibly older devices as well, but I don't know as I don't have one. If you count the number of cooked roms it might be less than the one x but that doesn't say anything
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Yes, but many HTC Devices have jellybean too. My DHD has jellybean and it is a 3 year old device.
PLUS the Chinese HTC Scene is huge.
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once again to late to the party
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Unfortunately, and by all accounts the M7 leaves the Z far behind. A superior screen, Camera, Sound Quality and Loudness, not to mention build quality.
I don't see why anyone would purchase a Sony handset unless they are a fanboy, in which case it would be pointless arguing with an irrational person.

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