our sgs think our battery its empty at 3,7v or 3,68.
if we could change the limit for the battery is considered empty, somewhere in the 3.1 to 3 V, thinking how much could keep a battery, the phone started.
if the battery is not empty exaggerated, I believe it can be used without problems.
Sony Ericsson uses batteries to 3.2 somewhere if I remember well.
I dont know how I could do something like that, that's why I posted here this idea.
from here http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
"Power loss through Protection Circuit
Besides common aging, a Li-ion battery can also fail because of undercharge. This occurs if a Li-ion pack is stored in a discharged condition. Self-discharge gradually lowers the voltage of the already discharged battery and the protection circuit cuts off between 2.20 and 2.90V/cell. Some chargers and battery analyzers (including those from Cadex) provide a wake-up feature, or “boost,” to re-energize and recharge these seemingly dead Li-ion batteries."
If v can do the cut off to 3.5v we.will gain roughly 35% more life. But ib think it will take 5hrs for a full change
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Its a lipo battery that is the saftey cutoff point...same as RC cars...going to low will kill your battery...
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not too low
not to low, low enoug to have long battery life.
for charge dont matter 2,5 ore to 4. i dont think wil be 5
good idea....do it°!
I'm ready to test it, but how we can change limitation of battery ?
Explain your idea.
Yes, could you explain more ? Do you know how to do it ?
I have few ideas on battery issue too:
1)
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2) real rocket for your galaxy:
Great idea but a moot one at the same time I'm afraid. No one knows more abt batteries than Koreans. They live for them. If this limit could have been set lower it would be lower. Also I have never heard of battery firmware being flashable through a phone.
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schiphol said:
Great idea but a moot one at the same time I'm afraid. No one knows more abt batteries than Koreans. They live for them. If this limit could have been set lower it would be lower. Also I have never heard of battery firmware being flashable through a phone.
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sony ericsson use this trick to have longer battery life, anyway we dont use a battery 2 years.
i dont now how to implement this trick.
I have the battery monitor app and in stock XXJVK, at 01% the battery is between 3.4 and 3.5 volts.
Fully charged is 4.18 volts or thereabouts but this falls fairly quickly to 4.0 volts which is where the battery stats need to be accurate to show true percentage and not just jump down to 80%.
Fully charged for me takes about 3 hours but I charge all my batteries (three using a separate charger and not in the phone itself.
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I have the battery monitor app and in stock XXJVK, at 01% the battery is between 3.4 and 3.5 volts.
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+1.
Swyped from another GALAXY
xenos126 said:
If v can do the cut off to 3.5v we.will gain roughly 35% more life. But ib think it will take 5hrs for a full change
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It's not linear. It falls rapidly at lower voltage. You would gain about 5% I think...
next time
i have a multimeter, next time i verify de power of my battery.(i am surre it not 3.4-3.5v)
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i have a multimeter, next time i verify de power of my battery.(i am surre it not 3.4-3.5v)
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Just use the battery monitor app...
But feel free to use a multimeter if you want.
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Just use the battery monitor app...
But feel free to use a multimeter if you want.
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battery monitor indicate 3.680v
Related
Hey guys,
can you post what voltage you have, when you fully charged your sgs2?
my value is 4,145V i'm just curious if thats the value i should have when fully charged, or if i should calibrate my battery (i switched some roms)
thx
I've got 4125-4135mV
ive got 4215mV hehe, healthy battery
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ive got 4215mV hehe, healthy battery
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Dang, you've got one helluva great battery! Mine at most is 4198mV.
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Dang, you've got one helluva great battery! Mine at most is 4198mV.
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i take good care of my batterys power cycles every time
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Dang, you've got one helluva great battery! Mine at most is 4198mV.
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The same at my cell.
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last time i calibrated the battery i reached 4,205 , that is my personal record. But this value is not very significative because it depens from the corrent usage of the phone. Screen on + cpu running a little bit can decrease voltade showed by 0,1 volt. And i also noticed that the charging process is strange. I assembled a little photovoltaic power station and i know the charging process of lead acid batteries. Because they are composed by 6 elements connected in series, at the end of the charging process the charger need to provide for a short time a voltage 1 volt higher than the normal to equalize the cells. The behavior of the Galaxy s2 charger is similar. The top voltage is reached for a few minues then it decrease to a float level. Very strange thing because the battery is a SINGLE cell and don't need the equalization charge like lead acid batteries.
Probably i just have to study much and play less with my galaxy
simax said:
Hey guys,
can you post what voltage you have, when you fully charged your sgs2?
my value is 4,145V i'm just curious if thats the value i should have when fully charged, or if i should calibrate my battery (i switched some roms)
thx
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Roughly the same.
this time i have 2,204V right after reaching 100%
i guess it varies a lil' more than on my hd2 (i had always the same value there)
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obviously i mean 4,204V haha
4,152 V most of the time. Didn't notice it go higher than that on my phone
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i take good care of my batterys power cycles every time
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Please tell me how often you do the power cycle and how?
Thanks in advance
i power cycle every time, charge it full overnight, use it for two days, then charge it overnight again
rinse and repeat
mine was just at 4195
i left it on charge for about 30mins after it beeped to say it was full and just callobrated it as i have been flashing loads of stuff all day
After three calibrates, I get a max of 4.200v and a min of 3.451v
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Mine is 4195 mV..
Mine exactly 4.2V (4200mV)
Mine 4201mV. This is the time to press the "calibrate battery" button. Right at the top.
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After three calibrates, I get a max of 4.200v and a min of 3.451v
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what app is that?
mines highest is now 4200 exactly
like the look of that app though
Hi, i stumbled across something.
Normally my fully charged X8 lasts about a day (I charge it every night)
I was at this friends house and forgot my charger, so i borrowed his HTC charger. This resulted in a battery that lasted twice as long! I tried it a few times and there is a real difference between the 2 chargers.
actually I've lost my charger and always charging with htc charger(my brother's) so anyway charging every night.. and htc charger can't charge battery till 2400 mah
My battery lasts 3 days im using wi fi ever day and some games. Charged with stock charger
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around 2 days with a lil Angry Birds + wifi + facebook + web browser
last time I'm doing my experiment with very low usage, I got six days!
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around 2 days with a lil Angry Birds + wifi + facebook + web browser
last time I'm doing my experiment with very low usage, I got six days!
and yeah, with stock charger.
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plz how you do that ???
Wao, is it possible??...I though only classic phone can make 6 days per charge.
I told you. very low usage. FYI that was FroyoBread. very good battery life
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plz how you do that ???
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He said "very low usage".
No wonder, I am using gingerdx v10 and my battery life only last for 1 days.
x8 with gingerdx v10, [email protected], fast reboot, AMM and Go Launcher.
Thanks doixanh!!!
i use an app that increases the battery time,its juicedefender
lvoonjian8888 said:
No wonder, I am using gingerdx v10 and my battery life only last for 1 days.
x8 with gingerdx v10, [email protected], fast reboot, AMM and Go Launcher.
Thanks doixanh!!!
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what is AMM
Auto memory manager. And yea.. On gingerDX I get no battery drain if phone is idle for around 2-4 hours.
My battery lasts about 2-3 weeks
i only turn on the phone when i need to make a call, like a bawss..
Nikkopt said:
My battery lasts about 2-3 weeks
i only turn on the phone when i need to make a call, like a bawss..
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Made me smile. Such a useless input
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I told you. very low usage. FYI that was FroyoBread. very good battery life
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FroyoBread, eh? I use that too.. My battery lifetime sucks balls but i guess that's just the way the cookie crumbles.
My battery life s*cks. I have to calibrate the battery and do some improvements (like use "Battery Doctor to save battery" app)
I think the charger doesn't make difference because the battery as a limit, and the charger charges the phone to that limit =D xD watch out, don't use chargers with different voltage and amperage, if you use one with more than the stock charger you probably will burn out your battery xD
I using GingerDx v010 and i have to charge it every day...2 times!!!But i think i use it a little too much!
Could the charger make that difference???I think no.
Any chance it would work on other phones such x10 ? Because for us it isnt so good battery life :/
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My battery life s*cks. I have to calibrate the battery and do some improvements (like use "Battery Doctor to save battery" app)
I think the charger doesn't make difference because the battery as a limit, and the charger charges the phone to that limit =D xD watch out, don't use chargers with different voltage and amperage, if you use one with more than the stock charger you probably will burn out your battery xD
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Did you close wifi/3g/bt when you don't use them? Close them will increase your battery life.
shahkam said:
Any chance it would work on other phones such x10 ? Because for us it isnt so good battery life :/
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Sometimes ROM doesn't affect battery life, affecting battery life is your own habit.
As doixanh said (the dev that make GingerDX), reboot phone after listen to music, etc. I wish i could help you.
every one that wants longer battery life, download SuperDim from the market. My battery lasts 2-4 days depending on usage using Floyo .30
Hello Everyone,
I am seriously tired with the really little battery backing up time if I do heavy usage...So here is a really cool and serious method on how to improve the battery backing time.
Remember...Try the method with your Risk..You will the sole responsible if anything happens to your battery(although nothing will happen if you follow the instructions properly).
So here it goes:
1. Drain your battery to 0%.
2. Remove the battery.
3. In a polythene or a ziplock pouch place the battery in it and safely secure the pouch or polythene.
4. Now keep the battery in a DEEP FREEZER...(Brand Recommended: LG )
5. Let the battery remain in the DEEP FREEZER for 12-18 hours.
6. After the time has passed, remove the battery from the deep freezer, unpack it from the pouch or polythene, and let it come to a warm temperature.
In the mean time, while the battery is outside, there will be water droplets around the battery...dont worry its perfectly safe, but make sure that you clean them.
Now place it in your phone and charge it...You will see the difference...
How it works:
If you are a chemistry student or if you have learnt chemistry, the battery contains lithium fluid, which after a period of time starts to become more liquidish..so the bonds weaken, and therefore less battery backing time...If you keep it in the deep freezer, the bonds become more powerful and hence they 'Handshake' more perfectly. So therefore a better battery backing time.
I did this trick, and it really works...so go ahead and try it!!!
Anybody tested?wanna try,but I always get backfire by doing silly stuff.and as I rember.I saw a warning that the battery shouldn't be cooled below the temperature of 4°C
shadik555 said:
Anybody tested?wanna try,but I always get backfire by doing silly stuff.and as I rember.I saw a warning that the battery shouldn't be cooled below the temperature of 4°C
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LoL.....batteries musnt exceed the temperature above 40 degrees....cooling wont harm it in anyway!!!! and i tried...it seriously powerups ur battery!!!
I get 4 - 5 Days out of my battery! So i don't have to do this YET. Really thanks for this. I will try it when my battery starts to be weak.
Do you have any screen shots of your battery consumption to back up you claim by any chance...
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HemdonG said:
If you are a chemistry student or if you have learnt chemistry, the battery contains lithium fluid, which after a period of time starts to become more liquidish..so the bonds weaken, and therefore less battery backing time...If you keep it in the deep freezer, the bonds become more powerful and hence they 'Handshake' more perfectly. So therefore a better battery backing time.
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Wow, pretty cool. Worth trying. :good:
Heh,gonna try.I have nothing to loose,probably :silly:
If I break the battery,buying myself a xperia mini,not a x10 mini.can you explain what is polythen and a ziplock pouch?
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Heh,gonna try.I have nothing to loose,probably :silly:
If I break the battery,buying myself a xperia mini,not a x10 mini.can you explain what is polythen and a ziplock pouch?
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Polythene is a shopping bag....
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Ziplock pouch is a sealable bag which can open and close.
lol , use this.
no matte how battery drain.
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lol , use this.
no matte how battery drain.
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lol
hahaha...
nice post sir...
maybe someday i will put my battery in refrigator..
hahaha...
Didn't help at all
For a 12-18 hours there,I thought you weren't kidding.
On a side note, i have seen it guys put flash drives in the freezer for few minutes. I can't think of a reason why.
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Freezing will actually damage the battery in the long run. The same holds true for totally draining it.
Now, this method might work in the short term but not in the way you're thinking. Freezing the battery will actually slow down the chemical processes, which results in what could be described as undervoltage at the hardware level.
Fortun said:
Freezing will actually damage the battery in the long run. The same holds true for totally draining it.
Now, this method might work in the short term but not in the way you're thinking. Freezing the battery will actually slow down the chemical processes, which results in what could be described as undervoltage at the hardware level.
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Here is a thing.....download a battery indiacator widget...note the current voltage produced while its FULLY charged.....then after freezing and charging it to 100%, notice the widget again....it seriously does helps it and the battery....it doesnt harms the battery for a really long use....i did this, and noticed that i got a maximum voltage of 4193!!!....do test it!!!
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Didn't help at all
For a 12-18 hours there,I thought you weren't kidding.
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I am rite now thinking that u are joking..
Battery life didn't change.I let it freeze for 16 hours.nothing changed :/
I can affirm this info is true. Long old tricks actually, but it does improved battery performance and life.
A testimonials.
Freezing Laptop Battery
I admit i've had doubts about this but...
should we start a poll for those who have tried and whailt results they got? Because if this really works it's very helpful, not to mention informative. (I do hate chemistry)
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i will try it when my battery starts to be weak..thanks for the tips
My battery stats and consumption have been pretty good and whatnot but I just realized it's off and sometimes doesn't count down consistently. But then it will catch up real quick. I am assuming the battery chip/driver are able to measure amps and not guesstimate voltage because of this behavior. I charged battery all the way up, unplugged, turned power off, plug back in til full and started up again but the behavior is still erratic. I am pretty sure I am getting somewhat accurate readings, it is just doing so in an erratic method. Ideas or references I missed? Anybody else notice?
As a side note I thought I was losing 1-2% per 6-8hours of standby but I realized there is a bug or the battery driver doesn't read correctly in standby. Anybody notice this too?
I voided my warranty.
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battery.
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The battery reporting is definitely inconsistent on this device. I've tried pinging it via terminal emulator to "force" it to re-poll voltage and capacity, with no luck, it doesn't update it to where I know it should be. Not sure if anyone has dissected this battery yet, many Li-Po's have an internal chip, not sure about this one.
I am quite sure it has a chip. Trying to confirm if it has a chip that measures amperage. I am guessing driver is bad or bugs.
I voided my warranty.
One thing I've noticed is that it seems to poll correctly if I charge to full and don't reboot at all. As soon as I reboot it starts flatlining after that point.
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Here's my best example yet. Upon plugging in it's quickly gone from 15 to 25...err....29% however. If I charge to 100% and don't reboot after that it doesn't drift. Something breaks the phones ability to read voltage/capacity for some reason upon rebooting. Stock or not stock, same behaviour. A few reboots in there, a couple where the % went UP.
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What is the problem can any one point out why I am getting do less battery is it because of atooma or acuupedo
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There is no battery calibration method that is anything more than a placebo. Just flash your ROMs at 100% and don't charge your phone 5 times a day. Let it drain and fully recharge once in awhile. Past that, there isn't much to be done.
Edit: Franco mentioned in his kernel thread that the battery reporting seems a little wonky. He is hoping it is addressed in 4.2.2.
Charge your phone fully while it is off to 100 then do a battery star wipe. Let drain till around 5 to 10 from regular use and then charge all the way up.
And remember that batt wipes do nothing more than have your rom read the battery more accurately, it had nothing to do with giving it better battery life. You are gonna want to flash a more efficient kernel or rom to achieve that.
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There is no battery calibration method that is anything more than a placebo. Just flash your ROMs at 100% and don't charge your phone 5 times a day. Let it drain and fully recharge once in awhile. Past that, there isn't much to be done.
Edit: Franco mentioned in his kernel thread that the battery reporting seems a little wonky. He is hoping it is addressed in 4.2.2.
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Hard to find info about the li-po battery, especially the one in this phone. I wouldn't rule out poorly designed circuitry at this point either. Love the phone, question build quality.
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Charge your phone fully while it is off to 100 then do a battery star wipe. Let drain till around 5 to 10 from regular use and then charge all the way up.
And remember that batt wipes do nothing more than have your rom read the battery more accurately, it had nothing to do with giving it better battery life. You are gonna want to flash a more efficient kernel or rom to achieve that.
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Wiping battery stats does nothing more than reset the current charge cycle's percent usage by app/process. That's it, it won't increase the accuracy of capacity reporting.
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Wiping battery stats does nothing more than reset the current charge cycle's percent usage by app/process. That's it, it won't increase the accuracy of capacity reporting.
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This is spot on. I tried to make that point earlier with my placebo comment, but some people are slow to catch on. Thanks for spelling it out.
I have N9005 MJ7 rooted
iam using galaxy charging current pro, to measure my charger output, but with my phone gives only 1200mah, while our charger should gives 2000mah, iam using the original charger and cable which came with the mobile
is it normal, does anyone got a better score? which apps do u use?
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I have N9005 MJ7 rooted
iam using galaxy charging current pro, to measure my charger output, but with my phone gives only 1200mah, while our charger should gives 2000mah, iam using the original charger and cable which came with the mobile
is it normal, does anyone got a better score? which apps do u use?
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i get that as well dont think charging current pro is compatible with note 3 so dont worry about it :silly:
thermax04 said:
I have N9005 MJ7 rooted
iam using galaxy charging current pro, to measure my charger output, but with my phone gives only 1200mah, while our charger should gives 2000mah, iam using the original charger and cable which came with the mobile
is it normal, does anyone got a better score? which apps do u use?
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That app is OK and probably your charger is also OK - the circuit that controls charging is probably limiting the current in order to keep it safe (for instance if it is too warm it might use an even lover current). Also the current is optimized as to be different at different levels of the battery capacity.
That being said I am always charging over night with a safe USB port - that way the current is 500mA max and the battery life is maximized, while I still get a completely full battery in the morning.
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That app is OK and probably your charger is also OK - the circuit that controls charging is probably limiting the current in order to keep it safe (for instance if it is too warm it might use an even lover current). Also the current is optimized as to be different at different levels of the battery capacity.
That being said I am always charging over night with a safe USB port - that way the current is 500mA max and the battery life is maximized, while I still get a completely full battery in the morning.
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I have a friend who has a 3 month S4, he used to leave the battery charging over night also, and the battery swollen and life daily use decreased to less than a day in 3 month use only!!!
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i get that as well dont think charging current pro is compatible with note 3 so dont worry about it :silly:
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did u try any other apps?
why Maximum result is not showing?
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did u try any other apps?
why Maximum result is not showing?
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Na just not bothered it charges fast so I'm happy :silly:
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I have a friend who has a 3 month S4, he used to leave the battery charging over night also, and the battery swollen and life daily use decreased to less than a day in 3 month use only!!!
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Yes, but:
- the S4 does not have the same charging algorithm as the Note3
- he was probably charging the S4 (which has different battery, charger and algorithm) at 1000 mAh or so (which was the most important point I was making, the 500 mAh are not 2x safer, are probably 4 to 8x safer, probably 20x safer than 2000mAh, that is not a linear thing)
- I think the S4 batteries had a certain defective batch (the media spoke at some point about it)
- there will always be a certain very small percentage of batteries that WILL go bad "no matter what", but that is usually exceedingly small if the charge process is done correctly.