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in light of at&t's new pricing we shouldn't complain about extra 10 for evo

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/atandt-makes-sweeping-changes-to-data-plans-iphone-tethering-comi/
http://gizmodo.com/5553418/att-just-killed-unlimited-wireless-data-and-screwed-everybody-in-the-process
those are the giz and engadget links.
basically they are getting rid of unlimited data and are charging you buy the megabyte/gigabyte. it's 15 a month for 200mb and 25 a month for 2gb. if you go over the 200mb limit on that plan it's another 15$ for 200mb that month. so that means for 1gb of use on that plan your paying 65$ for 1 gb on that plan. and if your on the 2gb plan it's 10$ for another 1gb. only good thing is if you use more than 200 you can switch to the higher priced plan and save some money, and it seems you can do this on a month to month basis.
there is a lot more stuff in the articles you guys should read. but honestly we shouldn't complain about the 10 dollars extra for the evo. for that ten dollars we get unlimited txt, unlimited data, and unlimited mobile to mobile. no other carrier can provide this. on other carries txting alone costs like an extra 20 a month for unlimited.
you know what i'll be happy to pay the 10 a month on the evo even though i live in miami without 4g. that 120 a year will just help get 4g out to everyone faster. we're lucky it's just ten. look at what other carriers are doing, we are really lucky.

good now more people will be coming to sprint lol

Nice! iPhone users will suck it up. haha that's funny new iPhone will users will love this

Haha this is sad. Happy i switched to flexpay
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i was going over my plan with a sprint rep the other day just to make sure i was ready for the evo and she told me that the unlimited mobile-to-mobile is ANY mobile, across any carrier! i had just assumed it was in-network mobiles.
thats freakin' AWESOME. way to go sprint

SilverStone641 said:
i was going over my plan with a sprint rep the other day just to make sure i was ready for the evo and she told me that the unlimited mobile-to-mobile is ANY mobile, across any carrier! i had just assumed it was in-network mobiles.
thats freakin' AWESOME. way to go sprint
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Yep, "Any mobile, any time." It's saved me so many minutes, and you get it long as you have an everything data plan.

Thank God I'm switching from AT&T. The new data plan prices are asanine. The point of getting an iPhone is to promote more web use. In life I learned that if you have too little of something you tend to need/use/want more. AT&T will make a killing off overage buckets.
Netflix is supposedly coming to the iPhone. Are you telling me that 200mb a month will suffice when streaming a movie. You will easily use that just watching ONE movie. You have to be a fool to even consider those plans an option.

To be honest, if it was not for Sprint's price, I would be with Verizon. So the extra $10 is not a super deal breaker... it is just annoying, but still maybe a bit cheaper then Verizon. I just hope that those extra $10 help install a bunch of
4G towers everywhere because I want to get my money's worth.
What annoys me is that I am supposed to get unlimited, but it was always known to have a soft cap at 5gb. So now I bet they will enforce it. Does my $10 make it truly unlimited in 4G AND 3G? I get no clear answer here. Because I KNOW that I will be on 3G more than 4G...
Also... I used to get free tethering in Sprint with my plan (I have a shared plan with my wife, 1500 mins, unlimited) Do I no longer get that? Do I have to pay the stupid $30/month for that? That is what annoys me.
Also what will happen when/if they go to 2.2? Will they disable the hotspot in Froyo?
As far as ATT is concerned... I just feel sorry for them, and for those that have to use them. Verizon makes a good point that your phone is only as good as your network, and theirs sucks. My buddy has to walk outside to send a text on his iphone. Many of the people I work with have Iphones that don't work well at all where we are. They would rather deal with THAT then give them up. I feel sorry for them to be that blinded. Have a phone that does not work at your place of work just to have an iphone... that is retarded.

$250/mo with AT&T or Less than $100/mo with Sprint. I could care less about the $10 premium for 4G considering how much I used to pay. I believe that these new plans will drive many people away.

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To be honest, if it was not for Sprint's price, I would be with Verizon. So the extra $10 is not a super deal breaker... it is just annoying, but still maybe a bit cheaper then Verizon. I just hope that those extra $10 help install a bunch of
4G towers everywhere because I want to get my money's worth.
What annoys me is that I am supposed to get unlimited, but it was always known to have a soft cap at 5gb. So now I bet they will enforce it. Does my $10 make it truly unlimited in 4G AND 3G? I get no clear answer here. Because I KNOW that I will be on 3G more than 4G...
Also... I used to get free tethering in Sprint with my plan (I have a shared plan with my wife, 1500 mins, unlimited) Do I no longer get that? Do I have to pay the stupid $30/month for that? That is what annoys me.
Also what will happen when/if they go to 2.2? Will they disable the hotspot in Froyo?
As far as ATT is concerned... I just feel sorry for them, and for those that have to use them. Verizon makes a good point that your phone is only as good as your network, and theirs sucks. My buddy has to walk outside to send a text on his iphone. Many of the people I work with have Iphones that don't work well at all where we are. They would rather deal with THAT then give them up. I feel sorry for them to be that blinded. Have a phone that does not work at your place of work just to have an iphone... that is retarded.
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never heard of a cap on sprint so don't know about that. and there are at least 5 different ways to tether on an android phone through either root or applications like pda-net. i think it's like 10 dollars and once you buy it you can tether all you want with the program. the 30.00 a month thing is for people who don't know about those type of things.

cpnichols said:
Also... I used to get free tethering in Sprint with my plan (I have a shared plan with my wife, 1500 mins, unlimited) Do I no longer get that? Do I have to pay the stupid $30/month for that? That is what annoys me.
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If you tethered with Sprint for "free" you were stealing data.
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... that is retarded.
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that's offensive.

pididente said:
If you tethered with Sprint for "free" you were stealing data.
that's offensive.
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i always wondered why it was ok to talk about tethering hacks but not about warez / hacked apps... both should be considered stealing.
and i am so over this "anti-retarded" movement. i think it is retarded...

gqstatus0685 said:
Thank God I'm switching from AT&T. The new data plan prices are asanine. The point of getting an iPhone is to promote more web use. In life I learned that if you have too little of something you tend to need/use/want more. AT&T will make a killing off overage buckets.
Netflix is supposedly coming to the iPhone. Are you telling me that 200mb a month will suffice when streaming a movie. You will easily use that just watching ONE movie. You have to be a fool to even consider those plans an option.
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Keep in mind netflix on the ipad too, that runs on 3g as well and is restricted to the caps
cpnichols said:
To be honest, if it was not for Sprint's price, I would be with Verizon. So the extra $10 is not a super deal breaker... it is just annoying, but still maybe a bit cheaper then Verizon. I just hope that those extra $10 help install a bunch of
4G towers everywhere because I want to get my money's worth.
What annoys me is that I am supposed to get unlimited, but it was always known to have a soft cap at 5gb. So now I bet they will enforce it. Does my $10 make it truly unlimited in 4G AND 3G? I get no clear answer here. Because I KNOW that I will be on 3G more than 4G...
Also... I used to get free tethering in Sprint with my plan (I have a shared plan with my wife, 1500 mins, unlimited) Do I no longer get that? Do I have to pay the stupid $30/month for that? That is what annoys me.
Also what will happen when/if they go to 2.2? Will they disable the hotspot in Froyo?
As far as ATT is concerned... I just feel sorry for them, and for those that have to use them. Verizon makes a good point that your phone is only as good as your network, and theirs sucks. My buddy has to walk outside to send a text on his iphone. Many of the people I work with have Iphones that don't work well at all where we are. They would rather deal with THAT then give them up. I feel sorry for them to be that blinded. Have a phone that does not work at your place of work just to have an iphone... that is retarded.
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the limits are:
3g = 5GB/month
4g = real unlimited
and yes sprint will disable tethering in froyo, they disabled gps in the sprint touch so only they could use it with their navigation app(which they charged for)

Yeah i seen the ATT price changes yesterday also. WTF are they thinking? Maybe the iPhone and it generated traffic is actually killing thier network after all. I would blow through 200mb in a day. I am a little over 5gb so far this month with VZW.

srtpusher said:
i always wondered why it was ok to talk about tethering hacks but not about warez / hacked apps... both should be considered stealing.
and i am so over this "anti-retarded" movement. i think it is retarded...
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yeah but with tethering it's not like you don't have the ability built in and data is data regardless of device so you shouldn't have to pay so much for the option. 15 or 20 is "reasonable" 30 is a little much in my opinion. and with the new 10 dollars extra we get "truly unlimited data" 3g and 4g. i don't consider it stealing, i consider it circumventing an idiot tax but thats just me.

thorpe24 said:
...the 30.00 a month thing is for people who don't know about those type of things.
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+1
People who don't know any better will get the $30 tethering package. However, being on XDA probably means that 98% of us know better. I am willing to bet that the following will work:
ROOT + Wi-Fi Tether app = Free Wi-Fi tethering.

actually some one has tried it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694047
this thread has stuff about wifi-tether etc.

Just because you can afford the extra $10 for whatever reason they give, does not negate the fact that its bogus. Changes are always incremental, so if you delay or prevent increases in fees, the less you pay in the long run. By letting any company do this without complaining, it makes it alright in their eyes and they will do it more often. Wouldn't you from a business standpoint?
Besides, Sprint has been bleeding postpaid customers for years, they should continue to bring in new people with the low plans and not tax the higher end users (cuz they know they will pay)

$10 Extra a month?

Hey there, I just wanted you option on something. This guy post this thread about how it is BS that Sprint charges an extra $10 a month for the phone, about how Sprint is charging for the phone and not the service.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=750280
Here is what I think about the $10 extra a month:
Sprint charges $10 a month for 4G.. And if you think about it you are not losing totality. You may not have 4G yet in you area, I know in Felton, Delaware where I live there is not yet 4G. But for every $10 we put in extra every month... It helps them put up more 4G towers. And the more towers the better coverage we will get. I may be wrong, but you need to think about it from more of the positive side. And besides, When you bought the phone you knew there was a $10 a month extra charge. But you still bought it. Anyways. I want to know what you guys think about all of this.

If Sprint takes my 10 bucks/month and builds more 4G coverage, then so be it. Let those who want the service help pay for that service. The extra 10 hurts, I know as a grad student but if that money improves my 4G service then I will be happy.

nukedukem said:
If Sprint takes my 10 bucks/month and builds more 4G coverage, then so be it. Let those who want the service help pay for that service. The extra 10 hurts, I know as a grad student but if that money improves my 4G service then I will be happy.
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Yeah, I just confirmed this with Sprint!

why didnt you just post this in that thread instead of creating a new one asking the same thing thats being discussed ... makes no sense

snapcallem said:
why didnt you just post this in that thread instead of creating a new one asking the same thing thats being discussed ... makes no sense
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Why don't you stop trolling?
Anyway I don't mind the $10/month because I paid way more with at&t. I actually never scanned for 4G and don't plan to but I believe NJ doesn't have it yet
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gqstatus0685 said:
Why don't you stop trolling?
Anyway I don't mind the $10/month because I paid way more with at&t. I actually never scanned for 4G and don't plan to but I believe NJ doesn't have it yet
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trolling? you dont agree its annoying having 8 different threads all asking the same thing ... and he linked the thread in his post

Sprint has said many times over that the $10 is NOT for 4G but rather a surcharge for using the phone itself - in other words: hardware.
Even though I do agree the logical reason is for 4G. I just wished Sprint would come out and say this.

mcbrided said:
Sprint has said many times over that the $10 is NOT for 4G but rather a surcharge for using the phone itself - in other words: hardware.
Even though I do agree the logical reason is for 4G. I just wished Sprint would come out and say this.
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The problem is they can't say it is for 4G since everybody will not be able to access it.
Hardware is the thing that everybody will use...this way you don't get people complaining about the 4G fee when they don't have 4G. (legally, you are not allowed to charge for a service that is unavailable to a customer.)
Just my .02. This topic never ends...

its a stupid charge no matter how you spin it and when you read this sprint webpage about the limits on 3G despite their plans saying "unlimited" you see why they charge an extra $10. It's not about how much the extra fee is, or being scrooge or any of that, its paying extra for something you should already have.
http://shop.sprint.com/en/stores/popups/4G_coverage_popup.shtml

snapcallem said:
trolling? you dont agree its annoying having 8 different threads all asking the same thing ... and he linked the thread in his post
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Yeah trolling well stop coming in those threads easy
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IceCreaMan said:
its a stupid charge no matter how you spin it and when you read this sprint webpage about the limits on 3G despite their plans saying "unlimited" you see why they charge an extra $10. It's not about how much the extra fee is, or being scrooge or any of that, its paying extra for something you should already have.
http://shop.sprint.com/en/stores/popups/4G_coverage_popup.shtml
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That's for the Aircards, Over Drive and MiFi, not for the phone data usage.
Now check your data usage history for the last 6 months and compare them with your current usage (since the evo) and you will provably notice that you are using more data than before, I went from using about 1Gb per month to over 4 Gb this past month. Not sure if this is what Sprint calls Evo features but if the $10 is due to the increase on network load and it is going to give me a better network I'll pay with no problem, not to mention that I am paying $80 less per month for 3 lines than what I was paying with At&t for two lines and getting more.

SAlpIche said:
That's for the Aircards, Over Drive and MiFi, not for the phone data usage.
Now check your data usage history for the last 6 months and compare them with your current usage (since the evo) and you will provably notice that you are using more data than before, I went from using about 1Gb per month to over 4 Gb this past month. Not sure if this is what Sprint calls Evo features but if the $10 is due to the increase on network load and it is going to give me a better network I'll pay with no problem, not to mention that I am paying $80 less per month for 3 lines than what I was paying with At&t for two lines and getting more.
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Thank you for clearing that up. When thread was started about a month ago, dealing with this $10 fee, I mentioned that broadband cards are limited to 5 GB. If you can catch 4G on a broadband card, then it is unlimited. Trust me, I hit the 5 GB cap using a 3G broadband card

SAlpIche said:
That's for the Aircards, Over Drive and MiFi, not for the phone data usage.
Now check your data usage history for the last 6 months and compare them with your current usage (since the evo) and you will provably notice that you are using more data than before, I went from using about 1Gb per month to over 4 Gb this past month. Not sure if this is what Sprint calls Evo features but if the $10 is due to the increase on network load and it is going to give me a better network I'll pay with no problem, not to mention that I am paying $80 less per month for 3 lines than what I was paying with At&t for two lines and getting more.
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i had at&t previous to the evo and my 4g coverage in atlanta is not all that good. For daily use, i only get great 4g coverage at the office but i don't need it there as we have dual DS3's pipes. Its still the same thing as the placebo effect, we assume they will add more 3g/4g towers because we pay an extra $10/m. i don't expect them to add more 4g towers in atlanta before adding even one 4g tower in Orlando, fl. I also need them to add more cell towers so i can have better coverage with just 3g cell service...

Verizon vs Sprint vs Tmobile vs ATT?

I am on Sprint and even though I love my EVO (best phone I've ever had), I am contemplating into looking at what other carriers offer as far as PRICING and COVERAGE.
Who do you guys think offers the best bang for the buck for users such as us EVO type users? Now that Sprint is gonna impose that $10 per line fee to ALL smartphones, I would like to know if the playing field has sort of leveled out where Sprint might not be the most economical and with this being said, I might have better coverage and service with another carrier at almost the same price range.
Thanks for any guidance.
PS. My name is HondaCop and I approve this message.

HondaCop said:
I am on Sprint and even though I love my EVO (best phone I've ever had), I am contemplating into looking at what other carriers offer as far as PRICING and COVERAGE.
Who do you guys think offers the best bang for the buck for users such as us EVO type users? Now that Sprint is gonna impose that $10 per line fee to ALL smartphones, I would like to know if the playing field has sort of leveled out where Sprint might not be the most economical and with this being said, I might have better coverage and service with another carrier at almost the same price range.
Thanks for any guidance.
PS. My name is HondaCop and I approve this message.
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IMO,
almost isn't gonna cut it for me. I mean im not into all these specs like everyone else. I see too much similarity in all these phones and at the end of the day they all of the same functions so going to another carrier for a similar phone and paying more aint even an option for me. Plus these other carriers are starting to show their colors by the changes they are making which really will keep me from moving. Increasing fee's, taking away upgrades altogether, tiered plans, no thanks. Now I come accross an article about LTE today which explains how these companies have 100% control over your data, and control what you have access to on your own phone, will throttle your data, and will make you pay for things like youtube, and other media rich apps. Ummm no way in hell im paying higher plans, and paying to use youtube. NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

Basically it depends on where you live, what services you require, etc. I stayed with Sprint so long because it was cheap and just good enough. But I rarely ever keep a phone long... generally less than a year. For ME, coverage wise its pretty much Verizon > AT&T > Sprint > Tmobile. Data speed, Verizon > AT&T > Tmobile > Sprint. (This isnt counting wimax which doesnt work inside of my crib but oddly enough LTE & HSPA do). Price, Tmobile > Sprint > Verizon > AT&T. Best bang for MY buck... Verizon > Sprint > AT&T > Tmobile.
See I dont mind paying more for better things, never have. If I did i'd drive a Camry instead of a 760.

the only reason i went with sprint/evo is its monthly rate
can't beat $70+tax with everything unlimited (not a big caller...so 600 is like unlimited to me)
the similar plans from vzn or att would be close to $100 +tax
regarding coverage
sprint is definitely one of the worst
but i have decent reception around work/school/home area
so works for me

Honestly sprint is the cheapest and even cheaper if you have some type of discount. I have the sero premium plan which is $40 a month plus the $10 4g charge then $7 insurance which comes to $57 a month before taxes. My girl has the $69.99 plan with the $10 4g charge and insurance but also has a 25% discount and doesnt even work for the company that she gets the discount for. The evo is the best phone we ever had. I understand alot of people like to upgrade as soon as the best next thing comes out but not us. We have basically unlimited plans because who really has a land line any more.
Verizon's $59.99 has only 450 minutes with unlimited text. Plus the $30 for unlimited date that's $90. $40 more then what i'm paying for sprint and $25 more for my girl.
We're very content with our evo and service we have and most importantly the price of our service compared to other carriers and we have unlimited daae. When I was reading sprint's facebook wall last night I was saying to myself like wow I can't believe people really want to leave sprint over this. But then I said maybe they're not paying the same rate that I and my girl are paying. Why would we want to switch and pay more for less talk minutes and capped data?

markushi said:
Honestly sprint is the cheapest and even cheaper if you have some type of discount. I have the sero premium plan which is $40 a month plus the $10 4g charge then $7 insurance which comes to $57 a month before taxes. My girl has the $69.99 plan with the $10 4g charge and insurance but also has a 25% discount and doesnt even work for the company that she gets the discount for. The evo is the best phone we ever had. I understand alot of people like to upgrade as soon as the best next thing comes out but not us. We have basically unlimited plans because who really has a land line any more.
Verizon's $59.99 has only 450 minutes with unlimited text. Plus the $30 for unlimited date that's $90. $40 more then what i'm paying for sprint and $25 more for my girl.
We're very content with our evo and service we have and most importantly the price of our service compared to other carriers and we have unlimited daae. When I was reading sprint's facebook wall last night I was saying to myself like wow I can't believe people really want to leave sprint over this. But then I said maybe they're not paying the same rate that I and my girl are paying. Why would we want to switch and pay more for less talk minutes and capped data?
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A lot of people dont realize that Sprints service isnt good everywhere. I didnt really realize it until I started traveling. I see this logic a lot though and if you think about it, it could apply to a lot of things. Why would I go buy a 760I when I can get this Camry? Why go buy a Sony tv when I can get this LG? Why go buy those Air Jordans when I can get those chuck taylors? Being cheaper isnt always better when it comes to what you're getting out of it. Im just saying though.

Are you willing to play the "google voice for texting" game? Do you need unlimited data? How many peak minutes do you need?

Coverage: Verizon > Sprint > Tmobile > AT&T
Data Speed: Verizon > Sprint > Tmobile > AT&T
Price: Sprint > Tmobile > AT&T > Verizon

Coverage: Verizon > Sprint > AT&T > Tmobile
Data Speed: AT&T > Verizon > Tmobile > Sprint
Price: Tmobile > Sprint > AT&T > Verizon
Who am I thinking of moving to? Verizon. While AT&T 3G is faster than Verizon's, it is just not as available/reliable as Verizon's. Sprint's 3G in my area (San Jose, CA) has gone from 1 - 1.5Mbps on Evo launch, to around 0.3 - 0.5Mbps now. Occasionally I find a spot I can get more than 1Mbps, but it is getting rarer and rarer. WiMax is great, but way too much power and not good enough at building penetration.

brownhornet said:
A lot of people dont realize that Sprints service isnt good everywhere. I didnt really realize it until I started traveling. I see this logic a lot though and if you think about it, it could apply to a lot of things. Why would I go buy a 760I when I can get this Camry? Why go buy a Sony tv when I can get this LG? Why go buy those Air Jordans when I can get those chuck taylors? Being cheaper isnt always better when it comes to what you're getting out of it. Im just saying though.
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Actually alot of people do realize none of the carriers is good everywhere. So what aint good for you, is probably good for alot of other people so they wouldn't agree with what you are talking about.

From my experience your best bang for your buck might be still Sprint. I'm on T-Mobile right now and i've never had a problem since I had it or anything. They only have 2 phones i actually like (HD2 and the Nexus s). I'm going to be switching to sprint because i got a way better deal i'm getting a hook up from a friend $50/month for unlimited text,internet and 1500 minutes with an EVO. Thats with being in a family plan thats why its so cheap.
Plus I switched to T-Mobile from AT&T because it was too expensive having an iPhone and crappy signal in my area. I would be in my room in the basement and would always get 1 bar to no signal. and soon as I switched to T-Mobile using the same iPhone ive always had full bars on edge and 3G. But you can't beat the prices Sprint offers on plans though.
Oh yeah I didn't mention anything about Verizon haha I was looking at their plans and what not they are over priced. I did a random make a plan with an droid x even tho I don't like the phone with having 500 minutes unlimited internet and text it came out to close to $100 bucks a month thats too much its not worth it. Even though most my friends have verizon I can't do it. If i wanted a high cell phone bill I would have stayed with AT&T

http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=173903
win.

I stumbled across this the other night. Looks like Verizon is testing sprint type pricing...
google this # 877.873.3278

Wait...I already pay an extra $10 for 'Premium Data' there is ANOTHER $10 monthly charge coming???? link?

dreamliner330 said:
Wait...I already pay an extra $10 for 'Premium Data' there is ANOTHER $10 monthly charge coming???? link?
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no lol. its just coming to all smartphone lines now.

x0lliex said:
"Sprint's 3G in my area (San Jose, CA) has gone from 1 - 1.5Mbps on Evo launch, to around 0.3 - 0.5Mbps now. Occasionally I find a spot I can get more than 1Mbps, but it is getting rarer and rarer".
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I notice this exact same thing here in Houston, TX. What the hell is going on?! Sprint's 3G used to be great but ever since 4G started rolling out 3G has literally gone to $hit! One day 3G was working fine, then the next day it seemed like Sprint flipped a switch and no more 3G. I'm seriuosly considering going to another carrier who's 3G actually has normal data speeds where I live.
So basically I'm having to pay $20+tax extra per month (2 EVO's)... for 4G which I don't get, as well as 3G which doesn't work!!!! Go ahead and ask me if I'm a happy customer...

brook**** said:
I stumbled across this the other night. Looks like Verizon is testing sprint type pricing...
google this # 877.873.3278
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Holy S#$t if this is true im switching to verizon. The droid bionic looks really good and i'm sure there will be a bunch of htc phones just as good. If verizon rolls this out nationaly sprint is done for.
Also t-mobile plans are $10 more then sprint but there is no 4g or smartphone fee soo if u get more then one smartphone t-mobile is actually cheaper then sprint.

^The promo is expired. I was thinking of flipping to VZW and the iPhone...but its expired...and I need more minutes.

dreamliner330 said:
^The promo is expired. I was thinking of flipping to VZW and the iPhone...but its expired...and I need more minutes.
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Good to know. I can feel like a getting a better deal Sprint plan now.

Sprint would have to impose a 50 dollar data fee to bring it to the same price range as the rest. Don't believe me? Check out the other plans out there. Most will be almost double what you pay for Sprint to get the same, if not less, features.

Another one bites the dust

http://androidspin.com/2011/03/01/verizon-tiered-data-plans-this-summer/
Poor people
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people can't really be surprised about this

sigh, I was actually considering switching to verizon, sprint seems to hate detroit.i guess that solidifies sticking with sprint.i don't think I could get by with a 2gb allotment per month considering I average 3gb now. Hopefully sprint realizes their unlimited data is a major aspect they have going for them and don't follow suit.

lmao just another reason to stay with sprint

i use a ton of data on my phone, but only about 50mb on 4g, as im always on wifi. 2gb would be plenty for 99% of users.
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It wont be long before Sprint announces the same thing. Book it. Every advantage they had over the larger carriers is being taken away. From S|P changes, to 10 dollar premium data to all smartphones. They will most certainly follow suit.

Yeah, no big surprise there. Just a matter of time til Sprint does the same, honestly. You guys don't really think Sprint's gonna keep their plans unlimited forever, do you? Too bad we don't have a reasonably priced carrier with good phones that doesn't pull the rug out on ya here in the U.S. As soon as you're happy with a carrier, they change something on you, in order to make more money. Sorry, but they're all businesses, and I have the same level of loyalty to Sprint that they have to me (aka none whatsoever). I've just been kinda pissed since the Sprint bait and switch over their Premier status thing. *End rant. Back to happy old me.

The reason Sprint added the $10 charge is to keep plans unlimited. They are not switching anytime soon.
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I hope tiered plans come to Sprint SOON! I rather pay for what I plan on using instead of paying for bandwidth I don't use.
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It boggles my mind that people (none in this thread) can complain about the $10 premium data charge. Sprint never charged for data before and now they charge only $10. Would people rather pay $30 a month for 5gb or $10 a month for unlimited? Seems like a no brainer to me.
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I can't say one way or the other what Sprint will do or won't do b/c I don't work on the top level of Sprint... but what I can say is that I will be really pissed if they follow suit here with these capitalistic companies... I hate AT&T...never been with any one else except Sprint.... not since... PRIMECo ::head bangs:: but yeah - I have no problem with Sprint so far as they don't change to this crap... I am trying to get my wife to switch to sprint...(she is with AT&T) and they would really be stupid if they make my fight harder...
I mean look at SONY. If I wasnt sort of a non official spokes person for the PS3 - they wouldnt have made 13 sales... I sold 13 friends on the PS3 b/c they couldnt sell me on a XOBX...(I wrote it like that on purpose)... Imagine what sprint will be able to do if they continue to keep unlimited - truely UNLIMITED...

With Sprints data woes as of lately do you honestly think unlimited data is going to last forever? lol...

if we go with LTE... we will lose too...
wimax is what we need to keep on sprint.

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With Sprints data woes as of lately do you honestly think unlimited data is going to last forever? lol...
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LOL True dat! At 100-300 kb/s on average for 3G speeds around my area, it sure will take me more than 1 month to max out a theoretical cap of 2GB per month if it comes to that. The most ****ed up part of it is that even on my current speeds and no 4G in my area, I still had to pay that $10 fee since last summer.
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It boggles my mind that people (none in this thread) can complain about the $10 premium data charge. Sprint never charged for data before and now they charge only $10. Would people rather pay $30 a month for 5gb or $10 a month for unlimited? Seems like a no brainer to me.
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Actually, a lot of people are pissed because of the fact that Sprint refuses to be straight forward about the fee. At first (unofficially), it was a 4G fee. Then when that started getting bad publicity, they tried convincing people that it wasn't for 4g. It was a premium data fee. Nobody even knew what the hell that meant (including Sprint, I think). But the cat was out of the bag. Kind of hard to change your story then. I have no problem with paying the extra $10, personally, especially since I actually get 4g (even though I've used it about 3 times in almost a year). But I do think it sucks how Sprint went about the whole situation. I'd put money on Sprint following suit and getting rid of unlimited data within a year.

right now i'd rather have 4gb of constant 1-2 Mbps instead of the unlimited 500 kbps i get from sprint.

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right now i'd rather have 4gb of constant 1-2 Mbps instead of the unlimited 500 kbps i get from sprint.
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True dat. Sprint's current 3G speeds blow. And 4G sucks down battery. Choose the lesser of the two evils.

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Actually, a lot of people are pissed because of the fact that Sprint refuses to be straight forward about the fee. At first (unofficially), it was a 4G fee. Then when that started getting bad publicity, they tried convincing people that it wasn't for 4g. It was a premium data fee. Nobody even knew what the hell that meant (including Sprint, I think). But the cat was out of the bag. Kind of hard to change your story then. I have no problem with paying the extra $10, personally, especially since I actually get 4g (even though I've used it about 3 times in almost a year). But I do think it sucks how Sprint went about the whole situation. I'd put money on Sprint following suit and getting rid of unlimited data within a year.
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They never once said it was a 4G fee, it has and always will be a "premium data fee", however people continue to say that it's a 4G fee because only "4G" phones had it at first.

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They never once said it was a 4G fee, it has and always will be a "premium data fee", however people continue to say that it's a 4G fee because only "4G" phones had it at first.
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If only 4G phones had it at first, then it's a 4G fee no matter how much you and Sprint try to sugarcoat it.
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detusueno said:
right now i'd rather have 4gb of constant 1-2 Mbps instead of the unlimited 500 kbps i get from sprint.
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AMEN!
I'll take a 4GB of consistantly fast data speed over a crappy unlimited 200 kbps (what i'm currently getting from sprint) any day of the week.

what carrier are you getting it on?

so after 16 years, verizon's deciding to screw me over and take away my 21% discount because of the fact my father retired from a pharmecutial company after 35 years and verizon decided they don't want to give us the discount anymore, despite the fact he's receiving pension benefits etc.
thing is, my case is unique because i'm on a 550 min loyalty plan, and for 3 phones (and me with my unlimited data), we only pay $120 a month. that's a damn good price for verizon.
it wouldn't have stung so bad, bc my mother works for municipal govt, so we were going to apply for 15% and put it in her name..but at the last step they said sorry, you can't keep that loyalty plan, and the price will go up $30 or so to a 700 minute plan...i said, um NO, we use liek 5 minutes a month between the 3 of us, so yea, scrap that, thanks.
so now, i'm being told to jump through hoops to try to keep my discount, which i know it won't work (they want me to contact HR at the company to see if they'll give us an indiviudal 22% retiree discount..but i know they won't) and that i lose my discount the 19th.
so now, i'm pissed. after 16 years of verizon, they constnatly screw everybody over, and i'm done with it..so now i'm considering saying screw it and jumping to ATT or something and paying that ripoff of 90 something a month with limited data just to get rid of crap verizon once and for all.
what carriers are you guys looking to get the G2 on? i was going to get it thursday, but now i don't know if i should even bother, bc who knows if i'll be staying with verizon or not.
any advantages to any other carriers of verizon?

If your strictly looking at price I believe T-Mobile is cheapest but your coverage will likely suffer.. They have the phones already ready to order but aren't shipping it yet.. sprint has a 80 dollar unlimited everything plan here in Chicago for 1 lineup can check ur local market but they won't have the phone till sometime in October... I have ATT which everyone says is the second coming of Verizon but not as bad.. personally never had a problem with ATT cs or service... They are just as pricey as Verizon though.. If u just want the phone now Att is the only option currently.
ATT usually has discount programs as well..check with customer service or the business department.
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djkinetic said:
If your strictly looking at price I believe T-Mobile is cheapest but your coverage will likely suffer.. They have the phones already ready to order but aren't shipping it yet.. sprint has a 80 dollar unlimited everything plan here in Chicago for 1 lineup can check ur local market but they won't have the phone till sometime in October... I have ATT which everyone says is the second coming of Verizon but not as bad.. personally never had a problem with ATT cs or service... They are just as pricey as Verizon though.. If u just want the phone now Att is the only option currently.
ATT usually has discount programs as well..check with customer service or the business department.
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thing is, even with a discount, the price we pay irght now is so low lol and since my dad is retired, i doubt they'd do anything since he's not a "current" employee, and my current job gives 15% on verizon, but nothing on ATT (i checked for my coworkers.)
honestly, i'd probably stay with verizon bc even without the discount, my phone is literally like $50 a month to just pay to my dad for when he pays the bill..while i've got unlimited data still, as opposed to the standard $90 a month.
thanks for the opinion though..i hear ATT's LTE speeds are faster too...because verizon, where i am, is pretty damn slow. in my house i get like barely 10mbps, and this market has been here for over a year now

I understand that the loss of the discount is discouraging but that is what companies do. I work for a a company that offers different discounts but when you no longer qualify for the discount then it can no longer be applied.
I don't know what city you are in or what other services would be better in your area, but if you can keep your unlimited data I would put pride aside and pay the difference and enjoy the LG G2 on Thursday.
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Bxrider117 said:
I understand that the loss of the discount is discouraging but that is what companies do. I work for a a company that offers different discounts but when you no longer qualify for the discount then it can no longer be applied.
I don't know what city you are in or what other services would be better in your area, but if you can keep your unlimited data I would put pride aside and pay the difference and enjoy the LG G2 on Thursday.
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i'm thinking about it bc of the cheap price i'm paying monthly.
i think at this point, the second verizon tries to take my unlimited away (or does) is when i'll finally leave. their price structure is literally identical to ATT, except ATT gives you 1 more gig of data for the same exact price. that's a no brainer. if they honestly want to keep me, they'll let me keep unlimited data, seeing as i don't use upgrades and i'm buying at full price.
forgot to mention that i use like 7-15 gigs every single month too, lol..

jayochs said:
so after 16 years, verizon's deciding to screw me over and take away my 21% discount because of the fact my father retired from a pharmecutial company after 35 years and verizon decided they don't want to give us the discount anymore, despite the fact he's receiving pension benefits etc.
thing is, my case is unique because i'm on a 550 min loyalty plan, and for 3 phones (and me with my unlimited data), we only pay $120 a month. that's a damn good price for verizon.
it wouldn't have stung so bad, bc my mother works for municipal govt, so we were going to apply for 15% and put it in her name..but at the last step they said sorry, you can't keep that loyalty plan, and the price will go up $30 or so to a 700 minute plan...i said, um NO, we use liek 5 minutes a month between the 3 of us, so yea, scrap that, thanks.
so now, i'm being told to jump through hoops to try to keep my discount, which i know it won't work (they want me to contact HR at the company to see if they'll give us an indiviudal 22% retiree discount..but i know they won't) and that i lose my discount the 19th.
so now, i'm pissed. after 16 years of verizon, they constnatly screw everybody over, and i'm done with it..so now i'm considering saying screw it and jumping to ATT or something and paying that ripoff of 90 something a month with limited data just to get rid of crap verizon once and for all.
what carriers are you guys looking to get the G2 on? i was going to get it thursday, but now i don't know if i should even bother, bc who knows if i'll be staying with verizon or not.
any advantages to any other carriers of verizon?
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My friend, I went through a very similar situation, so hopefully I can help you. My gf and I got crappy reception at work for the past 6 years on Verizon and I finally had enough. Verizon came out to test reception and agreed that it wasn't acceptable so they waived our etf's. I was also with Verizon for 16 years.
We jumped on our friends t-mobile account to try it out and what a mistake that was. Same crappy reception at work and much worse reception overall compared to Verizon. And their building penetration sucks huge donkey balls. I would get LTE in a strip mall parking lot but not 50 feet away inside a store. It was a joke.
I strongly believe that you get what you pay for with t-mobile. And we live in San Diego, which is a major city obviously with t-mobile LTE. It sucked.
We went to AT&T and couldn't be happier! Their reception, LTE coverage, speeds and customer service are unbelievable in our short experience. I'm not looking back at all!
I say make the jump bro! Let me know if you have any questions.
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thanks man! no idea what I'm gonna do but as it stands I'll probably stick with Verizon. my reception is OK and the price point is decent. meh.
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I've been with Sprint the past 10 years, but with my last 2 year contract coming up in 5 days, I'm dropping them. I'm simply tired of their data network always being behind the curve and false promises about it. I'll be moving to AT&T for the G2 and add a line to my wife's iPhone plan.

I have been on Verizon for probably the last 8 to 10 years. In the northwest USA they are hands down the best provider. The widest coverage and the best network speeds. But my biggest issue with them is their need to lock down every new device. I would have jumped ship a long time ago if I wasn't on a plan with my family. Im really hoping there is good development for the verizon version of the G2. I have been using a razr the last 2 years and people have done some amazing stuff with it. Hopefully the dev community keeps it going with the G2.

jayochs said:
so after 16 years, verizon's deciding to screw me over and take away my 21% discount because of the fact my father retired from a pharmecutial company after 35 years and verizon decided they don't want to give us the discount anymore, despite the fact he's receiving pension benefits etc.
thing is, my case is unique because i'm on a 550 min loyalty plan, and for 3 phones (and me with my unlimited data), we only pay $120 a month. that's a damn good price for verizon.
it wouldn't have stung so bad, bc my mother works for municipal govt, so we were going to apply for 15% and put it in her name..but at the last step they said sorry, you can't keep that loyalty plan, and the price will go up $30 or so to a 700 minute plan...i said, um NO, we use liek 5 minutes a month between the 3 of us, so yea, scrap that, thanks.
so now, i'm being told to jump through hoops to try to keep my discount, which i know it won't work (they want me to contact HR at the company to see if they'll give us an indiviudal 22% retiree discount..but i know they won't) and that i lose my discount the 19th.
what carriers are you guys looking to get the G2 on? i was going to get it thursday, but now i don't know if i should even bother, bc who knows if i'll be staying with verizon or not.
any advantages to any other carriers of verizon?
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Old paycheck and photoshop....
Not saying anymore...

WizeGuyDezignz said:
My friend, I went through a very similar situation, so hopefully I can help you. My gf and I got crappy reception at work for the past 6 years on Verizon and I finally had enough. Verizon came out to test reception and agreed that it wasn't acceptable so they waived our etf's. I was also with Verizon for 16 years.
We jumped on our friends t-mobile account to try it out and what a mistake that was. Same crappy reception at work and much worse reception overall compared to Verizon. And their building penetration sucks huge donkey balls. I would get LTE in a strip mall parking lot but not 50 feet away inside a store. It was a joke.
I strongly believe that you get what you pay for with t-mobile. And we live in San Diego, which is a major city obviously with t-mobile LTE. It sucked.
We went to AT&T and couldn't be happier! Their reception, LTE coverage, speeds and customer service are unbelievable in our short experience. I'm not looking back at all!
I say make the jump bro! Let me know if you have any questions.
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I could have written this same post, with two minor changes. I left Sprint after forever, tried out AT&T, and had a bad experience with them, tried T-Mobile (reluctantly), and boom, perfect service and works everywhere I work and play. Just goes to show you how location dependent different carriers are. T-Mobile loves the east coast. So now I have 2 lines on T-Mobile one unlimited everything, one 500mb for my wife who uses Wifi at home and work and averaged about 100MB per month on sprint for 100 bucks, and I get a 10 percent discount. Victory!

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I could have written this same post, with two minor changes. I left Sprint after forever, tried out AT&T, and had a bad experience with them, tried T-Mobile (reluctantly), and boom, perfect service and works everywhere I work and play. Just goes to show you how location dependent different carriers are. T-Mobile loves the east coast. So now I have 2 lines on T-Mobile one unlimited everything, one 500mb for my wife who uses Wifi at home and work and averaged about 100MB per month on sprint for 100 bucks, and I get a 10 percent discount. Victory!
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I just had a Tmo demo phone. Worked great in my office. Zero signal in my house (OK, I can deal with wifi if I must), zero coverage in my wifes office. That was the last straw.
Outdoors their coverage is fine, but building penetration is a problem area.

chrisexv6 said:
I just had a Tmo demo phone. Worked great in my office. Zero signal in my house (OK, I can deal with wifi if I must), zero coverage in my wifes office. That was the last straw.
Outdoors their coverage is fine, but building penetration is a problem area.
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Must be an east coast thing, I get LTE in a gigantic police station on any floor I'm on. If I didn't, I wouldn't be able to have kept t-mobile as we have no Wifi to use Wifi calling and my phone always needs to work. Outdoors is great, I agree, but as long as I get a bar or 2 in my office I'm okay with that.

I currently have AT&T for my work line and T-Mobile for my personal lines, my wife uses Verizon.
Around my area T-Mobile LTE is fantastic, I pay about $128 a month for 2 lines, unlimited talk, text and unlimited high speed data. That's including the $40 a month payment for the 2 phones (S4,HTC One). I do get a 20 percent discount on my lines thanks to my wife's employee discount from Lockheed Martin. In total I use about 35-40 GB of data and T-Mobile never bats an eye.
AT&T LTE has roughly the same coverage overall but slower than T-Mobile LTE around my parts. Verizon is the slowest but they have the absolute best coverage, we would find signal on my wife's iPhone 5 in the middle of no where when we travel, same place I would be showing zero service for both AT&T and T-Mobile.
Overall, I really do love T-Mobile, I wouldn't have said the same thing a couple years ago but they have massively improved.

well, not like anyone cares lol, but it looks like verizon is gonna give me 15% discount through my mom's work (as she works for govt)
thing is, they kept telling me we had to change to her name to get it..which by doing that would drop my loyalty plan and go into 700 minutes for $30 more.
i finally got a supervisor and they said no, if you validate via email, it doesn't matter, it will just add it on no matter if its your mom or dads discount, bc they're adding the discount bc of the domain, not bc of whos name is on it. only time we'd need to do an AOL is if we had to manually submit with a paystub.
so, i'm gonna get the 15% once i get into work tomorrow and go into my moms email and do it. not bad, i suppose...
and i think i'm gonna just get the G2 on an upgrade. do it on my dads upgrade, then after its activated, put his flip phone back on, and then put my sim in and keep my unlimited data. the proration for 1 day of data will be like, $1, and the only other fee will be the $30 upgrade fee..that's still better than paying 600 i guess lol
now to try to sell my GS4 bc i truly can't stand it anymore..

also a long time VZW customer (gotta be at least 10 years now, if not more). Also on a grandfathered unlimited LTE plan (contract expired already, going month to month). Will probably stick it out with VZW for at least the near future. Around here in the NYC area, t-mobile is abysmal and ATT is not that much better. VZW is clearly ahead of the game in terms of voice reception, so I really have no incentive to switch.
If VZW takes away my unlimited data, I'd probably switch to Sprint, or maybe ATT
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jayochs said:
and i think i'm gonna just get the G2 on an upgrade. do it on my dads upgrade, then after its activated, put his flip phone back on, and then put my sim in and keep my unlimited data. the proration for 1 day of data will be like, $1, and the only other fee will be the $30 upgrade fee..that's still better than paying 600 i guess lol
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can anyone confirm this will work? My plan is also a family plan where one party has a flip phone. If this will definitely work and will not result in my losing unlimited data, I might try it. Otherwise I'm forking out the $600

yeah dude, people do it all the time. the customer service rep even told me there's no charge back for deactivating it. I'm gonna ask the rep tomorrow if he loses commission if i do that... if so i won't do it, and I'll goto best buy since they don't make commission.. if not I'll do it.
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I'm on Verizon and I'm sticking with it. The only carrier I might consider is AT&T, but here's the clincher for me: coverage. Yes, I live in Baltimore/DC area so I could get good coverage from any carrier. However, my family is from a small town (we are talking population less than 1500) an hour and a half away from any city of significance, further from any real metro area. Was up there this past 4th of July and I was pulling down 18Mbps via LTE, and I had that coverage the whole way up there. AT&T just can't match it. They lag in LTE and I'm not optimistic on them because they never had a substantial build out on HSPA. That same town was Edge when Verizon had 3g coverage. Now it is at least HSPA. All I can say is Verizon cannot be touched for coverage. LTE-A is right around the corner, as-is VoLTE, and the G2 will have us covered for this capability.
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