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XZ as an underwater camera(Great Video)

Maybe you guys have seen this video since it has more than 160.000 views,but I just cant believe how good underwater camera performance is on this phone. Picture is crisp and focused,a lot of expensive cameras need special lenses to come close to this phone.
What I've also noticed is that there is no rolling shutter (wobbly video) like in the pre-production models so you can film yourself jumping in the pool and its not gonna look like jello.
CAN YOUR HTC DO THIS,CAN YOUR SAMSUNG DO THIS? SIT DOWWNNNN SONN

Fokezy said:
Maybe you guys have seen this video since it has more than 160.000 views,but I just cant believe how good underwater camera performance is on this phone. Picture is crisp and focused,a lot of expensive cameras need special lenses to come close to this phone.
What I've also noticed is that there is no rolling shutter (wobbly video) like in the pre-production models so you can film yourself jumping in the pool and its not gonna look like jello.
CAN YOUR HTC DO THIS,CAN YOUR SAMSUNG DO THIS? SIT DOWWNNNN SONN
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As you have said. It has been posted, and then reposted a few times.

Thanks for posting this but it has been posted already.
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camera shots at night....see this one wow its great

:cyclops:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTr7midAG4Q
If this is real then it did a amazing job.......

john291 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTr7midAG4Q
If this is real then it did a amazing job.......
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Or is this one fake?

john291 said:
Or is this one fake?
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seems legit

almost night , 1600 ISO manual setting
https://www.dropbox.com/sc/nv9t3ww8tb97s4f/7_KNqt7Rw4

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stesa said:
almost night , 1600 ISO manual setting
https://www.dropbox.com/sc/nv9t3ww8tb97s4f/7_KNqt7Rw4
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great photo but a litlle noisy....:good:

Not impressed. It looks blurry and seems to be held on a tripod that is slightly wavering in the wind. The phone goes to utter ****e when a normal person holds the phone with normal shake and, dear god, tries to pan even the slightest, because thats what people do with their phones. The framerate goes down the crapper and the image ghosts and artifacts like crazy. This is all due to incompetent software too, not the camera module itself. Even a budget Samsung phone can have super smooth and uniform night video, even though the quality is meh.

katamari201 said:
Not impressed. It looks blurry and seems to be held on a tripod that is slightly wavering in the wind. The phone goes to utter ****e when a normal person holds the phone with normal shake and, dear god, tries to pan even the slightest, because thats what people do with their phones. The framerate goes down the crapper and the image ghosts and artifacts like crazy. This is all due to incompetent software too, not the camera module itself. Even a budget Samsung phone can have super smooth and uniform night video, even though the quality is meh.
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Troll alert

katamari201 said:
Not impressed. It looks blurry and seems to be held on a tripod that is slightly wavering in the wind. The phone goes to utter ****e when a normal person holds the phone with normal shake and, dear god, tries to pan even the slightest, because thats what people do with their phones. The framerate goes down the crapper and the image ghosts and artifacts like crazy. This is all due to incompetent software too, not the camera module itself. Even a budget Samsung phone can have super smooth and uniform night video, even though the quality is meh.
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You got a slow internet connection? Maybe try running the clip at 1080p resolution instead of 240p lol.

Not gonna lie, the OP's video was so-so. I mean I have seen worse, but my s3 takes as good of video honestly.
I don't believe their video recording was one of their big selling points anyway, more so about the bigger pixels, screen and blinkfeed and actually better battery life for a change....oh and design.

JesseMT4G said:
Not gonna lie, the OP's video was so-so. I mean I have seen worse, but my s3 takes as good of video honestly.
I don't believe their video recording was one of their big selling points anyway, more so about the bigger pixels, screen and blinkfeed and actually better battery life for a change....oh and design.
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You have seen worse, but apparently you don't know that the bigger pixels directly translate to better low light video?
It's quite possible that conditions were a lot darker to the person actually taking the video.
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Not impressed. It looks blurry and seems to be held on a tripod that is slightly wavering in the wind. The phone goes to utter ****e when a normal person holds the phone with normal shake and, dear god, tries to pan even the slightest, because thats what people do with their phones. The framerate goes down the crapper and the image ghosts and artifacts like crazy. This is all due to incompetent software too, not the camera module itself. Even a budget Samsung phone can have super smooth and uniform night video, even though the quality is meh.
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Cool story, do you have the phone? If not, shut up because you clearly have no evidence to back your position. If anything, this person is probably shaking quite a bit because the OIS isn't compensating for the motion.

To the person that dismisses the video, turn on HD viewing on YouTube. It makes it leaps and bounds better. I'm going to assume that the person who uploaded this video, did so in low quality.
This will be my next phone as soon as my upgrade hits in June!
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this thread has become troll central! The camera on the ONE is top notch, how can you be so negative when you dont even own one?

Hunt3r.j2 said:
You have seen worse, but apparently you don't know that the bigger pixels directly translate to better low light video?
It's quite possible that conditions were a lot darker to the person actually taking the video.
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Cool story, do you have the phone? If not, shut up because you clearly have no evidence to back your position. If anything, this person is probably shaking quite a bit because the OIS isn't compensating for the motion.
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Lol that last paragraph sums it up
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Its a 4MP camera guys, and its competing against phones with 8MP plus cameras, and its still holding its own.
One thing I've noticed about the camera is that some pictures end up over exposed in normal lighting conditions if I hit the screen to focus in on something, I then have to point the camera away into a darker scene for the exposure to sort itself out. I posted some pics somewhere in the forum of a black steering wheel looking kinda grey.

ant78 said:
this thread has become troll central! The camera on the ONE is top notch, how can you be so negative when you dont even own one?
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Probably owns a samsung.
And i agree opinions on the phone are valid, provided it's done in a sensible fashion.
Flat out bashing will only wind people up, with them running the risk of being banned.
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huxley309 said:
Probably owns a samsung.
And i agree opinions on the phone are valid, provided it's done in a sensible fashion.
Flat out bashing will only wind people up, with them running the risk of being banned.
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Read his other posts lol, all he's been doing is criticizing the HTC One in every HTC One thread that's been created. Guy has nothing better to do.

yep for some one not impressed he seems to be posting on every HTCONE thread
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combat goofwing said:
yep for some one not impressed he seems to be posting on every HTCONE thread
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Perhaps he's being paid to
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Xperia Z1 review, previously a TX user

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First off, I wouldn't have gotten the Z1 if I didn't permanently brick my Xperia TX, which was doing an adequate job. I never planned to replace it until I renew my contract in 6 months, by then I would decide what would be available that's worth purchasing...my service provider has a ok to mediocre line up (Galaxy S4, HTC Desire, Motorola X, Nexus 5, Xperia SP), but none of them were interesting to keep.
Long story short, I tried to install a 3rd party ROM for the TX, only to have the screen flip upside down, later screwed up to the point where even the Sony logo does not even appear. It would constantly be stuck in Flash mode and it wouldn't even let you flash the stock firmware. Since the TX is not a Canadian phone, heck, it wouldn't even matter.
So I walked into the Sony Store and got myself a white Xperia Z1 C6906. Sales rep tried to sell me the magnetic charging dock, but I'm not too sure whether it's worth it. I looked at ebay and there seems to be a magnetic charging cable.
Build quality:
Since I had a chance to use a Samsung Galaxy Note 3 for a moment, I can say that the Z1 has a more "solid" feeling to it. I wouldn't say that it's impressive that the Note 3 manages to weigh around the same as the smaller Z1, despite having the bigger screen and slightly bigger battery. The plastic/leather?/aluminium? was the key to save weight. I'm sure if they used the same materials as the Z1, it would be around 185-200g.
Since the Z1 is built like an iPhone, using "premium" materials, there's a certain catch to it. Fragile.
When I got my iPhone 4, the first thing I got was a case to prevent permanent damage to its fragile product. This is the problem with the Z1 as well. Using glass as the front and back could end up from being one of the most beautiful phones into shattered glass. There is a shatter-proof sheet, but that doesn't mean anything. At the end of the day, you would still go out and buy a case, cover it up, end of discussion. You can't really see what the phone looks like anymore.
Now compared to last year's flagship, the T/TX, this is a huge jump. The plastic isn't bad, but plastic is plastic.
Button layout has been revamped, it certainly fits better with your fingers, where it should be naturally. However, I prefer the camera button to be bigger.
Hardware
Apples and oranges.
The T/TX had 1GB of RAM powered by an outdated Snapdragon S4. It performed about the same, if not, better than the Galaxy S3, but those were just benchmarks and they were already a good 6 months too late because the S4 was just announced...adding salt to the wound, the Z was also announced later on.
Compared to my TX, the Z1 just snaps through everything. Pictures load quick, Facebook doesn't lag to refresh news feed, none or barely any stutter in the animations, camera operates smooth, Walkman doesn't stutter it's audio, it just FLOWS.
LED notification is more noticeable than that puny dot on the corner on the T/TX.
The screen I got turns out to be the VA panel, ...why am I not surprised? But I don't have anything to complain as it still looks great, and the bad viewing angles will prevent other people from taking a peek at what I'm doing. Jumping from a 4.6 inch to a 5 inch with more pixels, everything looks sharper. I can't say much about the colour since I think it looks about the same in comparison.
Everyone says built-in battery is a problem, I personally find it to be the only Samsung fanboy argument as the importance of a removable battery is really insignificant. My TX has removable battery, but I never really had to take it out.
The only problem that I have is sound.
No rumoured S-Master MX DAC. I have a Walkman Z, and it sounds tremendous when paired with the Sony XBA-3 along with DSEE, Clear Stereo, and Clear Phase turned on, no equalizer adjustments needed.
For the Z1, volume is weak, bass too dull, vocals too tinny. Turning on ClearAudio+ and Dynamic Normalizer makes it worse. Clear Stereo is ok to use. Other than that, equalizer adjustment is highly recommended to fix this.
As for the speakers, I'm leaning more on the "I don't like it" side. Like the iPhone, the speaker grille for this is an absolute aesthetic b.s.
It isn't loud, nor is it very clear. It sounds slightly muffled, and feels like it came out of 320p YouTube when that's clearly not the case when it's played on headphones. At least they got the speaker placement correct...
Software:
Everything pretty much looks the same minus the camera interface. I've always like the Timescape UI better than any other ones out there so no complaints there. Camera quick-launch makes that funny music when turned on, I personally don't like it. They didn't do it with the T/TX, so why would they add it on now? Please don't say it's to warn the user that your camera function is turned on...at least make it like iPhone's auto turn off if no action has been done. I don't know if Android or Sony has such a function, but I know there is a fix here on xda to get rid of that.
Of course, that's up to whether the user wants to root or not.
As for the X-Reality engine, I would personally leave it off for the following reasons:
Over sharpened video - this seems to occur on some videos, it might be due to the codec or it might be due to its resolution. Leaving it off results in a natural video. Turning the engine on results in some funny white outlines popping everywhere including subtitle text that's just way too harsh to watch. However, playing the factory demo clips like The Smurfs 2 trailer shows no harsh sharpening.
Deceiving images - Everything might look great through that saturated and sharpen filter, but once you put it on the PC, it looks nothing like it anyways. Just like the TX's Bravia Engine, it doesn't improve on anything. If you like this sort of stuff, by all means, leave it on.
Camera
I haven't tested the camera too thoroughly to see how much of an improvement over an Exmor R sensor. The interface and functionality is much better than the TX thanks to better hardware. Picture file size says a lot, and 20 megapixels with only an average 5mb file size tells me there's not much detail being captured. Just like the TX's 13 megapixels, an average file size of 2mb is really disappointing when a 5 megapixel iPhone 4 can churn out pretty much the same thing, if not, better.
Low light has improved drastically thanks to the bigger sensor, but noise reduction seems too harsh or non-existent at times.
The hardware is there, but the software is certainly not making up for it.
Overall
From a hardware standpoint, most of the stuff is great. CPU/GPU is up-to-date, battery size is comparable to the giant Note 3 (not sure about usage though), you get the idea. The stuff about the screen not being PLS or IPS, well, if you're lucky, then consider it a bonus. The VA panel does more than enough if you stare right at it, colour reproduction might not be as good as IPS/PLS, but VA is considered a close contender.
From a software standpoint, if you have been using the previous generation T/TX, nothing should be unexpected as there are no drastic changes that require you to read the manual or anything. Since this phone is still relatively new, its also unsurprising that 3rd party development lacks compared to the insta-popular S4 and Note 3 where there are just pages of stuff to go through. If you don't mod, it's already pretty decent at its stock form.
Price is probably the only killer. $699 Canadian is steep. Yes, Rogers sells it for $599, but I want white and I don't use Bell or Telus, so suck it.
Contract price goes for much less...but it's contract price, ain't nobody got time for that.
With that money, you're open to a lot of top-end options like the Note 3, G2, even the Nexus 5 which is half the price of this. With CES just around the corner, prices will start dropping soon.
Nonetheless, it's still an excellent phone. Now I'm off to buy the Spigen GLAS.tR SLIM from Japan

It feels fragile, but I assure its not... I have seen a review where it was dropped from 5ft 3 times in succession and the glass didn't even chip... well yes it did chip a little, 1 mm on the corner, hardly noticeable... never see any other phone with stand this... all Note 3, G2 Iphone 5s all broken screen on the first drop...

But z1 was the only phone not working after the drop.... Sooo it's a pretty brick now.
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Morlock O said:
It feels fragile, but I assure its not... I have seen a review where it was dropped from 5ft 3 times in succession and the glass didn't even chip... well yes it did chip a little, 1 mm on the corner, hardly noticeable... never see any other phone with stand this... all Note 3, G2 Iphone 5s all broken screen on the first drop...
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But z1 was the only phone not working after the drop.... Sooo it's a pretty brick now.
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Lol, the androidauthority test is why I'm more worried about this phone. I know why Samsung uses plastic, it absorbs impact better :laugh:

shteren said:
But z1 was the only phone not working after the drop.... Sooo it's a pretty brick now.
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actually those guys are idiots, they didn't test the device before and after every drop (like they always do on samsungs and iphones). so we all don't know when did it actually stop working...
I personally saw one drop from 5 ft and its still working, just a little scratches here and there...

Dropped mine / fell out of my pocket > 10 times now. Some scratches in the alumunium frame, some in the protective stock anti shatter layer. Overall I'm VERY impressed how resilient it is for its looks. On the other hand, it has to win the award for the most slippery phone to date yet. Carrying it in cloth trouser pockets equals phone on the ground when you stand up fast.

1337rice said:
Lol, the androidauthority test is why I'm more worried about this phone. I know why Samsung uses plastic, it absorbs impact better :laugh:
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lol all samsung has cracked screen after one drop... they dont claim warranty on cracked screen... they do claim warranty on devices that does not turn on... pick your poison...

Lol, use some thin rubber case to make it less slippery
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shteren said:
Lol, use some thin rubber case to make it less slippery
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Haven't bought a sleek looking phone to strap an ugly wrapper around it. So... Livin' on the edge

1337rice said:
As for the X-Reality engine, I would personally leave it off for the following reasons:
Over sharpened video - this seems to occur on some videos, it might be due to the codec or it might be due to its resolution. Leaving it off results in a natural video. Turning the engine on results in some funny white outlines popping everywhere including subtitle text that's just way too harsh to watch. However, playing the factory demo clips like The Smurfs 2 trailer shows no harsh sharpening.
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Let me tell you that I had the same problem as well. Videos were extra sharp with jagged edges when XR was turned on and it wasn't visible on the pre-loaded videos. Like you said, turning it off would make it better but the colors won't be vivid as when XR is on. So I became frustrated and checked with a demo piece available at the store. The demo had the same issue too. I thought it was a problem with all the devices. Then I replaced mine due to pinch to zoom issues with my Z1. When I received the new one, it DIDN'T have the sharpness problem as before. So I was thinking that it could have been a panel or hardware problem. My second device went under a replacement as well. The third device I received didn't have the problem too. So I guess it affects some of the devices and your's has been affected. The Z1 I have now is very good when watching videos with XR turned on and colors pop out actually I request you to check your's with other devices at the store or with your friends if they have one.

DeKubus said:
Carrying it in cloth trouser pockets equals phone on the ground when you stand up fast.
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huh ?
I tend to drop things out of my pocket sitting down not standing up ?
if your knee is higher than your pocket, things will fall out.

gire.prasad said:
Let me tell you that I had the same problem as well. Videos were extra sharp with jagged edges when XR was turned on and it wasn't visible on the pre-loaded videos. Like you said, turning it off would make it better but the colors won't be vivid as when XR is on. So I became frustrated and checked with a demo piece available at the store. The demo had the same issue too. I thought it was a problem with all the devices. Then I replaced mine due to pinch to zoom issues with my Z1. When I received the new one, it DIDN'T have the sharpness problem as before. So I was thinking that it could have been a panel or hardware problem. My second device went under a replacement as well. The third device I received didn't have the problem too. So I guess it affects some of the devices and your's has been affected. The Z1 I have now is very good when watching videos with XR turned on and colors pop out actually I request you to check your's with other devices at the store or with your friends if they have one.
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I actually tried it again and it seems that the X-Reality over-sharpens 720p video while 1080p seems perfectly fine. I played a 1080p .mkv with XR turned on and it was completely fine.

One Twelve said:
huh ?
I tend to drop things out of my pocket sitting down not standing up ?
if your knee is higher than your pocket, things will fall out.
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Yeah, but if I move around while sitting the phone "slides" to the edge of my pocket. Then the little tilt backwards to gain momentum before standing up sends it flying. Damned shallow pockets!

gire.prasad said:
Let me tell you that I had the same problem as well. Videos were extra sharp with jagged edges when XR was turned on and it wasn't visible on the pre-loaded videos. Like you said, turning it off would make it better but the colors won't be vivid as when XR is on. So I became frustrated and checked with a demo piece available at the store. The demo had the same issue too. I thought it was a problem with all the devices. Then I replaced mine due to pinch to zoom issues with my Z1. When I received the new one, it DIDN'T have the sharpness problem as before. So I was thinking that it could have been a panel or hardware problem. My second device went under a replacement as well. The third device I received didn't have the problem too. So I guess it affects some of the devices and your's has been affected. The Z1 I have now is very good when watching videos with XR turned on and colors pop out actually I request you to check your's with other devices at the store or with your friends if they have one.
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Mine had that problem too, but after installing the first update Sony released, X-reality has been a pleasure to to use, it makes 480p videos look very close to HD and the colors really pop out.
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Jiyeon90 said:
Mine had that problem too, but after installing the first update Sony released, X-reality has been a pleasure to to use, it makes 480p videos look very close to HD and the colors really pop out.
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Does X reality work with other video players? Or only the sony app?
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negrobembon said:
Does X reality work with other video players? Or only the sony app?
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As far as I know, it works with MX Player

1337rice said:
As far as I know, it works with MX Player
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Thanks
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I can confirm it working with the excellent "bs player" Btw what update are you talking abour? Xr also oversharpens 720p in my phone and its anoying, I have. 257 fw
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Does X reality work with other video players? Or only the sony app?
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It works on YouTube and with MX player too but first you have to go to decoder and tick all the H/W+ options and untick all the S/F boxes, in some video sites similar to youtube you can choose MX to be the video player as well.
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I can confirm it working with the excellent "bs player" Btw what update are you talking abour? Xr also oversharpens 720p in my phone and its anoying, I have. 257 fw
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For me x-reality only do things better, here's an example of a 720p video showing the difference
You can clearly see that the second pic is a lot sharper especially if you look at the text and colors are more vivid too. I don't know if you see that as something negative but for me it definitely is an improvement over the original video.

Well at some scenes perticular details get oversharpened and look awfull...
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Xperia Z1 Review - From a Note 3, Nexus 5, and iPhone 5S Owner

Since people are posting their reviews, here is mine: http://www.thegeeksoffice.com/?p=1485

The Z1 is waterproof not water resistant. Waterproof = fully submerge in water and no water will get in. A water resistant phone will survive say splashes of water but if you fully submerge it, it will malfunction.
Also the scratches you speak about on the screen is the anti-shatter film protector not the glass itself.
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Sonys website claims that z1 is waterproof but if you check the manual you can read there that its water and dust resistant.
Then if you damage your phone with water, they will say that water damage is not covered by warranty.
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Please don't enter his website... He just posted it here to have more views. Everyone are posting reviews on xda site but there are different people which don't understand to don't advertise own website and post on XDA FORUM ANY "REVIEWS"(reviews can do special websites like Engadget etc, not single person). Just report as a spam or virus(on site there can be a virus etc)
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c312eal said:
The Z1 is waterproof not water resistant. Waterproof = fully submerge in water and no water will get in. A water resistant phone will survive say splashes of water but if you fully submerge it, it will malfunction.
Also the scratches you speak about on the screen is the anti-shatter film protector not the glass itself.
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I have scratches on the BACK, not on the SCREEN.

the back also has an anti-shatter film.
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imo Z1 -right now- is the best looking Android phone but not as good as the 5S, every thing else I pretty much agree with you (5S aside!)

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Please don't enter his website... He just posted it here to have more views. Everyone are posting reviews on xda site but there are different people which don't understand to don't advertise own website and post on XDA FORUM ANY "REVIEWS"(reviews can do special websites like Engadget etc, not single person). Just report as a spam or virus(on site there can be a virus etc)
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The back also has the film, if you take a closer look at the phone you will notice it.
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aridoasis said:
the back also has an anti-shatter film.
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It's a matter of personal preference when it comes to looks.
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3/5 is not good for one of best smartphone ever..
and Note III 4.5/5. LOL
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45 posts in six years, and you review phones? And you do so very poorly, in my opinion. Please get more educated before posting your biased blather.

mdt73 said:
45 posts in six years, and you review phones? And you do so very poorly, in my opinion. Please get more educated before posting your biased blather.
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Thank you for amazingly useful feedback. :good:

Here's some additional help for you:
Forum Rules
I suggest you stick to rules 7 and 13.
Here's an additional pro-tip for you, Louie: If you are going to review products, don't write articles about patio workspace and every single Apple product you own. It just gets back to showing you are an Apple fan and extremely biased. XDA isn't the place for you or your attempts to glean page views. Just like twelvesouth.com isn't for us... Ciao.

mdt73 said:
Here's some additional help for you:
Forum Rules
I suggest you stick to rules 7 and 13.
Here's an additional pro-tip for you, Louie: If you are going to review products, don't write articles about patio workspace and every single Apple product you own. It just gets back to showing you are an Apple fan and extremely biased. XDA isn't the place for you or your attempts to glean page views. Just like twelvesouth.com isn't for us... Ciao.
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Maybe you can show me how to write a review, even though I have written for Notebook Review, Brighthand, TabletPCReview, etc for about 10 years, I would be happy to read yours and fr you to give me more pro-tips :highfive:
Just because I write about Apple products doesn't mean I am biased. I also write about Android so does that make me biased on Android as well? Where is it written that I can't own a MacBook and a Nexus 5 at the same time? Or have a Windows gaming rig as well as an iPad?
If the MODs want to close this thread, they are welcome to do so and I apologize in advance for violating the rules. Last time I checked you aren't a MOD.
Anyway, just to get back on topic - I am really excited about the upcoming update for the Z1. Like I mentioned earlier, if it fixes the camera issues, then this product will be a winner.

soulreaver. almost 400 views, ignore the few lifefrustrated ones. Thank you for your review.
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soulreaver99 said:
Maybe you can show me how to write a review, even though I have written for Notebook Review, Brighthand, TabletPCReview, etc for about 10 years, I would be happy to read yours and fr you to give me more pro-tips :highfive:
Just because I write about Apple products doesn't mean I am biased. I also write about Android so does that make me biased on Android as well? Where is it written that I can't own a MacBook and a Nexus 5 at the same time? Or have a Windows gaming rig as well as an iPad?
If the MODs want to close this thread, they are welcome to do so and I apologize in advance for violating the rules. Last time I checked you aren't a MOD.
Anyway, just to get back on topic - I am really excited about the upcoming update for the Z1. Like I mentioned earlier, if it fixes the camera issues, then this product will be a winner.
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I have to agree with you that the superior auto mode isn't very good. But if you understand photography and use the manual mode. You'd be able to take the best pictures for a android phone. There are quite a bit of options to play around with compared to the limited options of the Nexus 5.
You can tell by your review you do not have a very good understanding of this phone.

However, most camera photographers want to just pull their phone out and take a decent photo without having too much thought and effort put into it in which the iPhone and Nokia Lumia do a great job of.
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Really, well you obviously dont really know jack diddly about photography as the Lumia has a nice array of camera settings that would benefit tweaking in most scenarios, just like any other camera phone or any camera for that matter.

homer285 said:
Really, well you obviously dont really know jack diddly about photography as the Lumia has a nice array of camera settings that would benefit tweaking in most scenarios, just like any other camera phone or any camera for that matter.
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Wow you sure showed me how smart you are with that reply

This thread needs to be shut down lol OP's just trolling
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soulreaver99 said:
Wow you sure showed me how smart you are with that reply
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And you showed how ignorant you are with your horrible review. You don't even know what the difference between waterproof and water resistant is.

soulreaver99 said:
Since people are posting their reviews, here is mine: http://www.thegeeksoffice.com/?p=1485
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it's been said many times to go with manual as SA isn't mature yet.
On one occasion it takes an excellent shot of spam, eggs and rice. It looks utterly fantastic and damn I am hungry right now even looking at this. Colors, contrast, white balance is all perfect with no post processing from me at all.
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You like this. ISO 50, 1/399s, scn mode : landscape
But you don't like this. ISO 160, 1/64s, SA
You say..
And here we have a plate of Mongolian BBQ, on a different day, similar lighting situation and the picture looks dark, colors are off and has a lot of unnecessary noise. I don’t get it.
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- Only thing similar is there is a half hour time difference so you would expect similar light at that time of the day but the ISO is three times higher and the shutter speed is 6 times slower. The camera saw a darker subject and compensated with slower shutter and higher iso so it's not similar lighting. These two weren't even taken in the same location.
- Looking at the two photos, the first was taken in landscape SCN mode. why did you choose that scn mode for a food shot ?The second one has no scn mode set so its a SA one.
- Where is the noise in that second picture ?An ISO 160 does not give much noise. Start pushing 800 and you will see it much more. There is no camera shake in either shot.
If the shot does not come out right then experiment with the modes. Or exposure compensation, you will need this in darker or very bright situations. You can get that shot to be brighter with a lower iSO but you will need to rest you hands on something to get a blur free shot.
Remember that low light shots of still life are easy, relatively speaking. Moving subjects in low light are a lot harder.
Here’s a link to photos I took with the Xperia Z1 posted on Flickr: http://flic.kr/s/aHsjNvQniV
And just for fun, you can compare it with photos taken with the Note 3: http://flic.kr/s/aHsjNvQxN5
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Unfortunately you have not taken the same pictures in the same lighting conditions with both cameras, so a random sample of one compared with an equally random sample of another does not tell us much.
In areas where I know the iPhone 5S or even the Galaxy Note 3 won’t struggle, the Xperia Z1 disappoints with poor white balance and contrast.
I would go picture by picture with you at full resolution but it would take way too much space on this blog. If I reduce the photos to a lower resolution, then of course they will look better but it won’t really tell the truth about the camera!
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Pls do go picture by picture, there is no space limitation here
Lighting is key in photography, lower light can trick the camera to pick the wrong WB.

Pre-ordered Premium and tried demo unit at the store

I just preordered gold Z5 Premium in Thailand. They currently have a promotion going on here. If you preorder Premium at Sony Store by Nov 8 (I think), you will get its Sony case and screen protector. I was told I can come and pick up mine on Nov 26.
They had a demo unit with a beta firmware at the store. I played around with it a bit, especially with its camera. Even with buggy beta firmware, camera worked great. I shot a few pictures one hand under less than ideal lighting condition in the store. I zoomed in and looked at each pictures closely. The results were really good. I don't understand how some people managed to get such bad photos in their comparisons. They must have taken pictures in very very unfair ways. ......unless if there are some differences in Z5/Z5c and Z5 Premium camera unit. Possible but I don't really know, I'm just speculating. I still haven't touched Z5/Z5c so I can't say anything about how its camera really is.
Anyway, just don't blindly trust posted not very proper comparisons done by some strangers that we have never heard of. We don't even know how exactly they shot each picture. I'm not pro, just a hobbyist plays around with big boy's toys like D4 & D810. I do know a thing or two about photo. Always try it yourself.
Btw, I'm upgrading from aging Z1 that survived 2 harsh drops and 1 throw. This will be one hell of an upgrade

I also upgraded from the Z1, tbh it's like using the same phone + random heating. I hope your Premium makes a bigger difference.