Have had my Vega for a week now and am pretty impressed with the hardware at the price-point.
People have complained about the quality of the camera image, relatively immaterial as no skype and most VC apps don't play too well.
I did notice last night that when you use the camera a blue glow comes from the gap at the top of the screen and bezel, and thought to myself, ooooh. It would appear there is a blue LED, I suppose to let you know the camera is active. It is hidden behind the screen bezel, but I'd put good money that some of the bright blue light is reflected back from the inside of the bezel into the lens of the camera, causing reduced contrast and colour desaturation.
So, what to try? Access the blue LED and either disable or cover with black paint. Maybe it will improve colour and contrast?
I've only had the Vega a week, so am still not ready to get the thing opened up, is anyone else ready to have a look?
Only a guess, and lets be honest, it's never going to be an HD camera!
Anything to improve this mediocre build powerhouse for free eh!
John
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Hi,
When I dispay a black background color on my X1 for example the pannel screen while it is switching to a different pannel or standard pannel I see a bit of light leakage on the top 2 corners of the screen from each side. A bit white, if you understand what i mean.
Does anyone notice that?
Thanks for the info
Yep I notice it too. Probably a case of bad backlight LED placement.
This screen doesn't seem to have as good a contrast ratio (black levels) as the one on the Touch Pro.
it's rather massive. Its even visible on camera mode when you have wide-mode off.
I hate living with imperfection.
How bad is it on your device?
I have to say its not visible when other colors than black are displayed
I'm probably seeing the same thing as you are - two bright areas on the top/left edge of the display.
The light is "leaking" because the display contrast isn't high enough and the screen assembly is a bit thin.
It's something I can live with, but I do wish SE had sourced for a better display. HTC has raised the bar since Diamond and Raphael, and this one is pretty good for a Windows Mobile device, but there are tons of even better screens out there - think Japanese super-keitais.
humm.. I was trying to look for the light leakage but I can't really seem to see it.... perhaps you could post some photos of what it actually looks like?
yup, it's there
don't see any leakage on mine...
I tried one in the shop and the screen was tilting left a little bit. Also the flip was a bit loose even in closed. Any comfirmation?
I'm pretty sure all devices have the same leakage problem. Just put on a pure black screen and look for the white cones decending from the top corners.
It's because of the led's behind the screen I guess
honestly, there's very little (leakage, short of better term) if not none. If you have seen TouchPro, it leaks like crazy...
Leakage is pretty terrible, no doubt about it. Wonder if this fault is only on some handsets?
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honestly, there's very little (leakage, short of better term) if not none. If you have seen TouchPro, it leaks like crazy...
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My TP don't have this at all. Virtually no leakage. Pretty much solid black even in pitch black environment. Contrast and viewing angles are excellent. One of the best if not the best screen I've seen to date. Seems like they're using 8 bit panel instead of 6 bit TN panel. The latter have terrible contrast and viewing angle as standard.
lucky if u only seen it on top corners, mine are on all corners!
i don't see any leakage... went into a pitch black room and pressed the panel button and i see no white light coming out of the corners...
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My TP don't have this at all. Virtually no leakage. Pretty much solid black even in pitch black environment. Contrast and viewing angles are excellent. One of the best if not the best screen I've seen to date. Seems like they're using 8 bit panel instead of 6 bit TN panel. The latter have terrible contrast and viewing angle as standard.
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then you must have a rare TP, all the TP owners in Singapore reported to have the same leakage. that's if we are talking about the same thing with regards to light leakage...
Hi,
2 days ago a friend of me and me bougt this moblie,
yesterday i gave it back to the store, cause i've seen the white
leakage on my display too, on the devise of my friend its ok.
today I'll get a new one. Hope its ok there....
Thought it was damage or so....
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then you must have a rare TP, all the TP owners in Singapore reported to have the same leakage. that's if we are talking about the same thing with regards to light leakage...
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Maybe I'm missing the point here. Do you mind posting a screen shot of the issue so we can be on the same boat? Now you've got me curious.
I'll try and post a photo when I get home later, mine is mainly in the bottom left half of the screen and it's really noticeable and distracting when viewing something dark.
Hmmm, I've definitely noticed leakage on my xperia, in the bottom left hand corner when in landscape.
I had a Touch Pro for a few weeks before I got the xperia, and the screen on that was flawless. I might give vodafone a ring and see if I can get it replaced...
Don't forget to switch the display brightness to full to be able to observe the leakage. When I watch the Bond trailer I can definitely see the leakage on the top corners when there is a black background in the beginning. It's rather distrubing but I do believe that all devices have that in some sort of extent. I think you just have to get used to it and live with it.
Hi All,
Anyone having issue with a green tint in the centre taken with the camera?
Especially when taking snapshots of paper document. Making the handyscan app unuseable.
Well, at least you're getting a green tint, some users have gotten pink, or blue tints...
It is typical with phone cameras...even the iPhone gets a green/pink tint when taking close-up of documents...
However, a simple post processing correction (even the automated fixes in Photoshop) get rid of it pretty easily.
Handyscan is another useful app for taking pics of documents, and it fixes those tinting issues at the centre of the image.
I always get a pink circle in the middle of my pics.
The camera is the thing that ruins my experience with my LG Optimus 7, it's so awfuly bad. I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one having issues...
Once in a while I get a green tint, but it`s very rare. I actually find the camera to be quite good. I can take very clear images.
I cleaned the lens with 99% rubbing alcohol, and I get noticeably less tint now...especially no more pink halo at the centre...I don't recommend others doing this though, and it might ruin the plastic parts if you aren't careful, and you need lint-free micro fiber Q-tips...
Ok well I would like to get peoples feedback and opinions on their screens.
My story. Broke my GNote II instead of paying to replace LCD decided to upgrade with my carrier.
First Note 3 I bought was bright with nice whites and great viewing angles. But it has the dreaded pinkinsh purple screen tint issue in the lower 3rd of the screen more so on the right side. This is subtle and is less evident in brighter conditions or higher screen brightness. At low brightness and in dark environments it is particularly visible on white and grey backgrounds. Went to store to exchange and they refused given they could not see the defect. I came online here searched around and it seems this has been an issue on the GS4 and people have mentioned it on the new Note 3.
Convinced my carrier to send me a replacement and I will return the original to them. Well got the replacement 3-4 days ago. The unit seems quite different. First off the screen is overall a bit more yellow at face on viewing angles and perhaps a hair less bright at similar settings though hard to tell. The bottom is not color shifted puple. The screen color is more homogenous. However the viewing angles are completely different. Here while the brightness stays goo dlike the first when angling the screen, the colors shift to a more aqua color with minor angle variation. (guessing 20-30*) whereas the original unit has virtually no color shift at almost 90*.
I probably have to send back a unit in the coming day or 2 and make a final decision. In theory I could try to ask for a third model, however it was with a lot of difficulty and threats to leave my carrier that they relented in the first replacement. SO I likely will have to stick with one of these or return both and use my somewhat broken note 2 and wait for something else.
I am wondering if any of you out here have similar pink/purple tint issues at one end of your screen. Or if you have issues with significant white color shift when angling your screen more than 30* in either portrait or landscape. Also if good or bad can you check build date on your phone (should be under battery). FInally did you or will you replace it? Was replacement better or worse?
Also if in my shoes would you go for the better looking screen with the pink issue or the more consistent looking screen that is a bit more blue yellow.
Thanks!
lots of postings about this, i even made a thread regarding this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2463786
some people call it nitpicking, but as you can see i'm feeling with you...
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lots of postings about this, i even made a thread regarding this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2463786
some people call it nitpicking, but as you can see i'm feeling with you...
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I know you did and I posted some long posts there and the thread kind of died.
I have some specific questions here as well as asking what I should do in my case.
I had a note 2 and remember there being perseus kernel and with STweaks one could shift color etc and make it how you like. I am thinking going with the more uniform color model as I am sure the slight yellow tint can be corrected and the blue tint on viewing angles is no worse than my note 2 looking back so I will get used to it I imagine. That said the first screen really has great screen but the purplish pink right bottom corner bugs me on white and grey screens ( not noticeable on high brightness though) and often reading on websites etc indoors I notice it enough that it bugs me.....
So for anyone who cares here is an update on my plan. The more uniform note 3 is more yellow/green tinted whites compared to the other one that is whiter/redder. That said if I use one of these screen filter style apps that exist in the play store, I can modify the overall screen into however I like.
Downside is that it means a persistently running app to do it with whatever effect on screen longevity and battery.
Now on my Note 2 which is also yellower, I was running perseus kernel and the s tweaks app and was able at the kernel level to modify the color to get better whites. I imagine it is only a matter of time before someone can do that for our note 3. I can handle the viewing angle color shift as the device is in my hand and not on a table when i use it where it might be off angle viewing by a large amount. And even then, the tinting of white has a bluish shift and now worse than a yellowing shift my wifes iphone has off angle or my note 2 did.
Would love tohear from others and what their screens are like and or developers who might have the means of modifying color at kernel level the way Andreilux did on the note 2
I checked almost 10 note 3s bkack n white as well..and found only 1 set.it has no yellow tint and no gray lining.
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I checked almost 10 note 3s bkack n white as well..and found only 1 set.it has no yellow tint and no gray lining.
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You checked 13 notes and 12 of them were either yellow tint or what gray lining issue?
How did you manage to check so many.
Can you check the following. Look at the phone screen face on the tilt either up down or side to side about 30 degrees and tell me if the white on the screen turns bluish.
One of my phones does this and has the yellower whites. The other does not and has better whites but has some purplish discoloration in the lower right part of the phone.
Any one here try a new kernel from the android development sections?
Some of them talk about being able to modify screen color. Am wondering if this can be a fix for my issues.
Okay, so I have had my device for 4-5 days now and I noticed a strange thing when I have my device in my hands in landscape while watching pics below my eyes and I tilt it to right side screen gets blue and when tilt left yellow but when I have the device on my eye level, i.e - holding in front of my head and eye and I tilt it the blue and yellowish screen doesn't appears but when I take my device above my head and eye level and tilt it the blue and yellowish screen starts appearing again I am sure this cant be any hardware issue as if it was then why would the screen not go blue and yellowish when held in front of head/eye but when held at below head or above head screen gets yellow so the basic question is this is by any chance software/display calibration, these panels are meant to be like this (I have always had Sony before this and nothing else so I am very new to IPS) or it by any chance is hardware? has anyone else noticed this?
Anyone?
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Okay, so I have had my device for 4-5 days now and I noticed a strange thing when I have my device in my hands in landscape while watching pics below my eyes and I tilt it to right side screen gets blue and when tilt left yellow but when I have the device on my eye level, i.e - holding in front of my head and eye and I tilt it the blue and yellowish screen doesn't appears but when I take my device above my head and eye level and tilt it the blue and yellowish screen starts appearing again I am sure this cant be any hardware issue as if it was then why would the screen not go blue and yellowish when held in front of head/eye but when held at below head or above head screen gets yellow so the basic question is this is by any chance software/display calibration, these panels are meant to be like this (I have always had Sony before this and nothing else so I am very new to IPS) or it by any chance is hardware? has anyone else noticed this?
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Many LCD and IPS does this. I'm not sure what the "science" is. But even my computer monitor does this (yellow on side, and white the other. Up and down is darker/lighter)
Pretty normal, but since the G2 doesn't have the best viewing angels on a phone, you see it more often when not looking directly at the screen.
Yes, this is true of the G2 as well as the lg built Nexus 4 and 5. The display is really amazing TBH although minor changes do occur if you angle the display.
The best I have seen is on the HTC One X. I don't think even the HTC One is as good as the One X display. I want to say the Iphone 5/5s display is also as good as the One X but it fails on size and visible black border/outline. For that reason, I put the G2 and the i5s on a par in second place, all things considered. The i5 is brighter and darker than the g2 but much smaller and black outline more apparent.
Lastly, sony xperia z and z1 display is really quite poor in this regard i.e viewing angles.
I do have the exactly same thing on my g2 d802.. Maybe that is how the screen is then. I ha e also wondered if this is a hardware problem, but look like more people do also have it..
This is my second week with this unit and it's awesome so far! Took some time for the battery life to get up to par, but got that sorted out and now it's a beast!...like the title suggests though, I do have a question about the ultra wide camera. Can someone try going into a dark room, covering the camera lens when the ultra wide camera is activated, and see if you notice light bleed on the view finder when in 3:4 aspect ratio and no filter on? I notice slight light leakage onto the screen if you look around the edges of the viewfinder. You don't have to cover the lens because it is noticeable in really low indoor light conditions or if the room is extremely dark. The other two lens under the same conditions seem fine. It's not a deal breaker or anything, nor will I return the phone, just wondering if anyone else notice. It's very slight. In decent to good light conditions, you don't notice it at all. And I will say that it doesn't show on pics at all. This is just my OCD kicking in lol. The cameras are actually the best I've used on a phone!
I decided to take a screen shot. Take a look at the upper left hand side. Do you see the light leak? With the other camera lens, the viewfinder is pitch black to match the pitch black scene. If indoors and the light conditions are bad, you'll see the distortion on the viewfinder, but the pic will turn out perfect. Only if you do motion picture do you see it a bit. Anyone have this or an explanation? Definitely not enough for me to return the device, but just wondering if it's normal? Zoom into the photo I attached and you'll see it at the top left.
No one can quickly try this and confirm?
Do you have a camera protector applied?
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Do you have a camera protector applied?
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No, no protector applied. When I called Samsung, the rep told me it's normal and her unit does the same. I still don't know. But if you tested in a dark room and you don't get it, that means not every unit has it.