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HD2 speaker quality

What do you think of the HD2 REAR speaker quality?
Could you state below why you think it is good or bad?
Do you have something to compare it to?
Is it better or worse than a Nokia? (I consider their speakers as rather good)

Not too hard to guess what the 1st person put, is it

Thread already running here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591011

Xeon said:
Thread already running here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591011
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That poll is called "Earpiece and voicecall quality". Hang on, you made it - you should know that! lol
This is for the speaker.

johncmolyneux said:
That poll is called "Earpiece and voicecall quality". Hang on, you made it - you should know that! lol
This is for the speaker.
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Hmm.. OP please specify which speaker ie: back speaker just to make things clear.
Well john you got a point

Xeon said:
Hmm.. OP please specify which speaker ie: back speaker just to make things clear.
Well john you got a point
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Yes...
And my poll mainly concerns the REAR speaker.
The front speaker, is IMHO rather good.

Yerry said:
Yes...
And my poll mainly concerns the REAR speaker.
The front speaker, is IMHO rather good.
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Well I hope you've voted accordingly on Xeon's poll then

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Well I hope you've voted accordingly on Xeon's poll then
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Yes I did.
But my rear speaker...
Some ppl here are even saying good or brilliant. I figure HTC is using very cheap components and the spread between those must be huge.
I had luck on mine in terms of the earpiece, but I had no luck on the rear speaker.
It is a shame that a 100 Euro Nokia has a better speaker than my HD 2.
Guess I have to return it :-(

very bad rear speaker or audioprocessing algorithm. rear speaker sounds distorted all the time, no good for a handsfree phonecall or listening music. guess too much volume is pumped to the speaker. not gonna return device anyway. bluetooth headset or headphones.

Coming from iPhone it is very poor for music. Not that the iPhone is high fidelity in any way, but it's much richer. The HD2 speaker is tinny, but it works well for hands free voice, where I thought the iPhone was a bit a sharp and piercing.

Yerry said:
What do you think of the HD2 REAR speaker quality?
Could you state below why you think it is good or bad?
Do you have something to compare it to?
Is it better or worse than a Nokia? (I consider their speakers as rather good)
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I compare it with TP2 and there is no match. The sound from the HD2 is very distorted when the volume put to high. Still the TP2 is the best sound quality from HTC so far.

doraemon said:
I compare it with TP2 and there is no match. The sound from the HD2 is very distorted when the volume put to high. Still the TP2 is the best sound quality from HTC so far.
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The N95 is ridiculously better than ANY HTC device ever made, but that's got nothing to do with this poll, so let's not get into that. Likewise with your TP2 comment. The poll is what you think about the HD2 speaker. It's not asking for comparisons.

ok...given that the rear speaker is tiny , am not expecting much but what i dislike is that the sound is garbled and not clear!
I use the speakerphone a lot for con calls...and compared to my n958gb...the sound is less loud (which is okay) but not clear at all....garbled...where I cannot distinguish properly what is being said

I think my rear speaker is ok, but I do get a lot of distortion at high volume through the 3.5mm out which is annoying.

i find my hd2 speakers to be very well made. not earpiercing at all and sound quality is on par and even better than sony's walkman phones and nokia's express music models

I'm pretty sure that aside from the Touch pro 2 HTC use loudspeaker components meant for musical birthday cards. The sound on the HD2 and all the other HTC devices I've owned (including the G1, Magic and Hero) has been appaling compared to all the non-HTC devices I've owned such as the Nokia 5800, iPhone 3gS, Samsung Galaxy, Omnia 2 and Motorola Dext.
It's such a shame that HTC let themselves down like this with their speaker and camera hardware as the BUILD quality of their devices is as good as it gets in my opinion, I just wish they'd stop using crappy parts.
I'm certain the Desire I have on order will also have a crap loudspeaker too.
Just played the same trailer on the HD2 and iPhone YouTube apps and the difference in sound richness - no matter what volume - is deflating.

The "loud"speaker on the rear of the unit isn't really that loud and becomes very tinny when set to a high volume. Bass is non-existent (not surprisingly).
Works OK for a small conference in quiet surroundings but is not suited for a larger group, noisy surrondings and certainly not music!
This is one of the very few areas where TP2 is miles ahead of it's cooler brother - HD2. The conferencing-ability of the TP2, including the rear speaker, is in my opinion brilliant!

....also I don't mean to be a negative nancy but those who have voted the HD2 rear speaker to be 'brilliant' must either have aural deficiencies, have never heard the speakers on a non HTC device or refuse to accept any negative criticism of their beloved device.
There is no smartphone I have come across in the past 18 months that had worse speakers than a HTC-made handset. Most of my friends have some form of HTC device and without prompting all of them have at some point mentioned the poor speaker quality. HTC's speakers have no dynamics to them, so any talking with background noise turns into an incomprehensible mess. On an iPhone or Nokia XPressMusic I can happily listen to my favourite podcasts and music through the loudspeaker but with an HTC device my timpanic membrane is left shuddering as if I had been trapped in a metal dustbin and struck repeatedly with an iron hammer.
So if I can I use a speaker dock.

crap
This is my third HTC made device - PDA2K, TYTN II and now HD2. I must say i am not an audiophile. TYTN II was not too bad, but HD2 is pretty bad. Bought my wife an iphone 3GS (got it cheap as upgrade on phone plan)
my HD2 is embarrasing as a music player compared to the Iphone.
I have had to buy a set of earphones Stenheiser for it, the included ones were crap too. For a NZ$1000 phone, it's unacceptable.

The rear speaker is OK but distorts at volume.

LG G2 Audio Quality? Hi-Fi Sound?

Hey all, the audio quality from the speakers are supposed to be a selling point of the phone.. not many reviewers speak about it in the video review or even give an example of what it sounds like... so not intuitive and extra frustrating lol. Does anyone have it and can compare it to the HTC one boom sound quality or the Iphone 4s good speaker quality? Now that i have an HTC One, the only way i would go to the LG G2 is if the audio quality from the speakers hold up to the hype LG displayed at their event. replies are appreciated.

Im with you as no review has done anything with the sound. I will say in this phonearena review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVA7jg1KB-k&feature=youtube_gdata_player that he says although the G2 sounds great it doesnt have the depth the htc one has with its boom sound but that still leaves us in the dark.

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Im with you as no review has done anything with the sound. I will say in this phonearena review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVA7jg1KB-k&feature=youtube_gdata_player that he says although the G2 sounds great it doesnt have the depth the htc one has with its boom sound but that still leaves us in the dark.
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yeah i watched that yesterday... again left in the dark... i was hoping that it sounded close to the HTC One as it's the best audio i've heard on a phone next to the Iphone 4 and 4s. thanks for the reply!

Are you talking about audio from the external speaker, or audio out to headphones? If external speaker, I'm thinking you'd be disappointed vs. the HTC One, as the G2 only has a single mono speaker on the bottom right as you face the screen. The grill on the bottom left is the microphone.

INCREMENTAL said:
Im with you as no review has done anything with the sound. I will say in this phonearena review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVA7jg1KB-k&feature=youtube_gdata_player that he says although the G2 sounds great it doesnt have the depth the htc one has with its boom sound but that still leaves us in the dark.
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Are you talking about audio from the external speaker, or audio out to headphones? If external speaker, I'm thinking you'd be disappointed vs. the HTC One, as the G2 only has a single mono speaker on the bottom right as you face the screen. The grill on the bottom left is the microphone.
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yeah i was referring to the External speakers and thats a bummer.. i thought they were stereo speakers with two at the bottom... something like the apple has at the bottom of their iphone. I really like the phone from reviews and if the speakers are better than the Note 3 lets say or any other LG smart phone, i may be inclined to get it... seems like no phone is as good as the htc one just yet

stepinmyworld said:
yeah i was referring to the External speakers and thats a bummer.. i thought they were stereo speakers with two at the bottom... something like the apple has at the bottom of their iphone. I really like the phone from reviews and if the speakers are better than the Note 3 lets say or any other LG smart phone, i may be inclined to get it... seems like no phone is as good as the htc one just yet
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I don't know if i'd let the speakers bother you, much. Then again i can't tell you what and what not to do.
A phone will never have audiophile sound from speakers. Sure, we can justify it sounding good because of what it is. I've heard the iphone speakers and i've heard the htc speakers. Yes, for a phone they are great, but that's about it. With that being said, i'd never rock out with phone speakers. They help get the point across, but i'll be reaching for hi-end gear to make those beautiful music notes shine.

Darkestred said:
I don't know if i'd let the speakers bother you, much. Then again i can't tell you what and what not to do.
A phone will never have audiophile sound from speakers. Sure, we can justify it sounding good because of what it is. I've heard the iphone speakers and i've heard the htc speakers. Yes, for a phone they are great, but that's about it. With that being said, i'd never rock out with phone speakers. They help get the point across, but i'll be reaching for hi-end gear to make those beautiful music notes shine.
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right.. but the reason i'm intrigued is because they're supposed to be really good.. LG had a presentation on the speakers. The Htc one sounds very very good.. it could come out of the box louder but there's a way you can make them louder and still sound crisp. It's second to none i've tried so far. going to something lesser than hurts the mind and deprives the ears when you know there's a better option.

Darkestred said:
I don't know if i'd let the speakers bother you, much. Then again i can't tell you what and what not to do.
A phone will never have audiophile sound from speakers. Sure, we can justify it sounding good because of what it is. I've heard the iphone speakers and i've heard the htc speakers. Yes, for a phone they are great, but that's about it. With that being said, i'd never rock out with phone speakers. They help get the point across, but i'll be reaching for hi-end gear to make those beautiful music notes shine.
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Are you talking about audio from the external speaker, or audio out to headphones? If external speaker, I'm thinking you'd be disappointed vs. the HTC One, as the G2 only has a single mono speaker on the bottom right as you face the screen. The grill on the bottom left is the microphone.
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and i was just looking at the phone and it does look like two speakers at the bottom left and right. are you sure?

The Hi-Fi sound is in regards to being able to play 24 bit/192kHz Hi-Fi playback. The only way to take advantage of this is having high enough quality media and using a nice set of headphones. The external speaker has nothing to do with this, and from what I've seen it's not all that great.

emplox said:
The Hi-Fi sound is in regards to being able to play 24 bit/192kHz Hi-Fi playback. The only way to take advantage of this is having high enough quality media and using a nice set of headphones. The external speaker has nothing to do with this, and from what I've seen it's not all that great.
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ooooooo i see what u mean now... that's why they have those different type of headphones that comes with the phone. well that sums it up.. probably answers the question of why no one is talking about the external speakers.. they're just regular lol

stepinmyworld said:
ooooooo i see what u mean now... that's why they have those different type of headphones that comes with the phone. well that sums it up.. probably answers the question of why no one is talking about the external speakers.. they're just regular lol
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hehe, yup. Definitely a cool feature if you like quality sounding music though.

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and i was just looking at the phone and it does look like two speakers at the bottom left and right. are you sure?
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99.9% sure, based on a post I read from someone who already has the phone, as well as the phone's manual, which only draws a line to one grill with the "Speaker" label. No manual is perfect, but I'm fairly confident that a split line would have been drawn to each grill if it had stereo external speakers.

Right side is the only speaker. It sounds better than the GS4, but not as good as the HTC One.
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Look at the Verizon version... It has speakers only on right side.
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No version has 2 speakers, the other grill is the mic.
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The speaker(s) on the lg g2 do sound better than the s3. Can't comment on the s4. The lg g2 is more warm sounding and higher pitched timbre's sound more realistic vs the s3. They are of equal sound volume, however.

It's about as loud as my n4 but actually has more bass, not saying its much, but its more than a n4 or gs3.

i hate the fact that there's a built in compressor/limiter on the speakers, and there's some kind of weird stereo thing going on where it might only be giving ONE channel, rather than both left/right out of the speaker.
i rememebr reading on the international version that there was EQ settings and whatnot somewhere...wonder if we can unlock them somehow? then maybe we can turn that stupid limiter off.

Hey guys...dont know whether this has been asked before but i really dont know if this g2 has 1 or 2 speakers. Cos the sound only comes out of the right speaker. But in the manual looks like it has 2 speakers...can someone help me here? Thanks
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mab71 said:
Hey guys...dont know whether this has been asked before but i really dont know if this g2 has 1 or 2 speakers. Cos the sound only comes out of the right speaker. But in the manual looks like it has 2 speakers...can someone help me here? Thanks
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Right side is the ONLY speaker, though it 'looks like' 2 in the bottom.

Very annoyed by the Note 3 speaker and Samsung

Coming from Note 2, I'm so utterly disappointed by the Note 3 speaker. It's weak and has a very cheap sound. My Note 2 (now in my wife's possession) has a rich sound. I can't believe Samsung regressed on a very simple yet important feature. It always amazes me Samsung or HTC or Motorola hasn't surpassed Apple in Smartphone sales with Android being so superior to iOS. I always know why because these cheap sons of *****es are nowhere as serious and detail oriented as Apple when it comes to hardware. Apple really gives you premium components in all aspects of the phone. Think about it, Apple, Samsung, etc all charge about the same for the flagships. But Apple throws in the best antennas, sensors, screen, speaker, camera, processor, mmc, memory, now even a fingerprint scanner (even though I don't give a damn about it). What do others do? Go skimpy on components here and there. WTF? My Galaxy S3 for example got no reception while my wife's iPhone 4S was merrily surfing the Internet away at a July 4 fireworks venue. Same Sprint network. S3's antenna just stings like a MF. Samsung particularly is most shameful because they make so many components in house. If not for Android, Samsung etc. don't deserve to compete with Apple. Don't get me wrong. I hate Apple. But I love their hardware and their attitude to making the best hardware the industry possibly sees. I was hoping Apple drive the competition. But the competition falls asleep on the wheel. OMG.

I agree the external speaker is slightly better on the N2. My wife also has my mint titanium grey N2. However with a headset the difference is amazing far superior to the N2. I have been streaming music on my N3 all day in work from play music, and for me volume and quality are fine. Most of the sound features are designed for a headset on the N3. External speaker and mic pick up on speaker phone again seem better than the N2. It takes a bit of transitioning from the N2 to 3 but I am loving mine.
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bklm1234 said:
Coming from Note 2, I'm so utterly disappointed by the Note 3 speaker. OMG.
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You and others hung up on the external speaker really need to get a grip. This is from another thread and says it best.
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The speaker is fine, it reminds me of the iphone speaker at the bottom. The way you hold the phone can also make it far more effective just as cupping your hands around your mouth to shout!
Nice knowing that setting the phone down on the table isn't going to muffle the sound!
I have experience in pro audio reinforcement/music production and sound is important but as previously mentioned it's ludicrous to expect a room filling sound from a transducer smaller than most tweeters on speaker systems!
If you want something to fill a room, check out the UE bluetooth speakers.
The mods will increase gain however the driver has absolute excursion limits as well as its driving amp and pushing the levels higher just results in compression and nasty distortion just like cranking your stereo amp into clipping. It won't damage your phone but sounds horrible!
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It's also not nearly as bad as people are making it out to be and there are advantages to it being on the bottom vs. the back where it's easy to block.
Here's my N2 taping a video playing playing on my N3 and vice versa. It's the same TV show (Modern Family) being played back on my cable company's video app minutes apart. Both phones are at max volume. The N3's flat on its back on a desk and the N2 is propped up in a Seidio kickstand case because it can't lie flat on its back without hobbling its audio. The recording distance is the same.
N2 recording N3
N3 recording N2
If the external speaker is that important to you return your N3 and buy something else. Samsung's not going to change it so it is what it is.

I totally agree with the Op and have said since release day, the external sound quality is way too monophonic, it's so bad to my ears that I'm trying to sell my N3 and will keep my N2.
It's not just poor audio quality, it's overall system sounds, they're harsh.
Very cheap sounding speaker Samsung, shame on you.

I have no issue with the sound on this device.

LOL, If anyone is obsessed with a tiny speaker on a phone they need to buy a boombox, not a cell phone.

The sound on my N3 is 10 times better then what I had on my original Galaxy S.
I'm pleased with it.

neoKushan said:
I have no issue with the sound on this device.
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I have no issues with speakers.

This one is a mystery to me as well. Given I haven't heard an HTC One that's supposed to sound really good, but if I'm listening to music or something for which I'd want really good sound quality, I'd hook it up to a dock or use headphones regardless of how good the little speaker on the thing is for its size. It's never going to hold a candle to headphones or a real set of speakers.

I must have a faulty phone then. Because even system alerts sound thin and monophonic on my n3.
On note 2 rich and full, a real contrast.

Brava27 said:
LOL, If anyone is obsessed with a tiny speaker on a phone they need to buy a boombox, not a cell phone.
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LOL! Why settle with a 5,7" display when you can get a 65" plasma!! Pockability is a *****, isn't it?
I don't carry headphones with me all the time... in fact I rarely do. I just want to enjoy my phone. Ever heard of "multimedia" (key word being "multi")? It doesn't mean just a good screen. You need some audio to pair that video with and unfortunately the N3 just doesn't deliver in that department.
In my book, to buy a flagship device you don't want to settle with something just being good enough, you want something much better than average... well in my case I was actually willing to settle with just average. I wanted to get the N3 really bad but after comparing a youtube clip with weak audio with my N2 I realized that the N3 wasn't even average... it was worse than average. I'm keeping my N2 because both audio & video is better than average
/Tubgirl

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On note 2 rich and full, a real contrast.
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I used a N2 for almost a year. I agree the sound coming out of it had more detail than what's coming out of the N3 but to call it "rich, full, a real contrast" is putting the N2 on a pedestal it doesn't serve to be on. The N2 was a great phone but had plenty of strengths and weaknesses. The N3 is a great phone with plenty of strengths and weaknesses. The only thing that's changed is what's moved from one category to the other. At least to me, it would take a hell of a lot more than less detail coming from an external speaker for me to overlook all the material gains Samsung's achieved with the N3.

everything on the note 3 is way better than the note 2 apart from the speaker I did take mine back to the shop and had it replaced and my replacement sounded alot better so I think it's some speakers are better than others, but overall cracking phone love it
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Tubgirl said:
LOL! Why settle with a 5,7" display when you can get a 65" plasma!! Pockability is a *****, isn't it?
I don't carry headphones with me all the time... in fact I rarely do. I just want to enjoy my phone. Ever heard of "multimedia" (key word being "multi")? It doesn't mean just a good screen. You need some audio to pair that video with and unfortunately the N3 just doesn't deliver in that department.
In my book, to buy a flagship device you don't want to settle with something just being good enough, you want something much better than average... well in my case I was actually willing to settle with just average. I wanted to get the N3 really bad but after comparing a youtube clip with weak audio with my N2 I realized that the N3 wasn't even average... it was worse than average. I'm keeping my N2 because both audio & video is better than average
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Going back to the N2's display, especially in bright sunlight, would be downright painful. And according to your argument that's a key part of "multimedia." Add to that the quality of sound the N3 puts out via BT and the 3.5mm jack which I listen to multimedia with 97% of the time and your whole argument seems a bit silly. Listening to anything for any length of time over any phone's external speaker isn't multimedia; it's either a necessity borne of no other options or just plain masochism.

I noticed that when I play music it sounds good and loud. However when I was on a phone call, the volume was very quiet out of the speaker. It could have been because of the other person I was talking to, but I'm not sure.

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I noticed that when I play music it sounds good and loud. However when I was on a phone call, the volume was very quiet out of the speaker. It could have been because of the other person I was talking to, but I'm not sure.
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I've had to take two conference calls of over an hour each using the the N3's external speaker. The sound is plenty loud. In fact, the thinness everyone's complaining about doesn't come across in phone calls because the content (people's voices) is pretty constant. On the plus side, the three mics and noise cancellation of the N3 got positive comments from people on the receiving end of the conference calls and those on my side didn't have to do a football huddle over the N3 to be clearly heard.

I don't know about the quality. I don't use it to listen to music.
But the volume is considerably lower than the S4.

LOL!!!...if u bought the note 3 for sound, or was expecting Bose to come outta there then u purchased the wrong phone lol....The note 3 is a maestro at multitasking..a literal powerhouse...I mean this phone rivals most laptops.
Take a moment to appreciate the awesome sexy piece of tech in ur hands

I only use the external speaker when im in the shower. I dislike people who walk around with their speaker volume up ...I dont wanna hear what you are listening to. People that complain about the stereo speaker need to get over themselves.

airyras said:
I only use the external speaker when im in the shower. I dislike people who walk around with their speaker volume up ...I dont wanna hear what you are listening to. People that complain about the stereo speaker need to get over themselves.
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I couldn't care less what you like hearing. The quality of sound isn't great from the Note 3, that's my point. I'm used to a better sound from my Note 2. Hopefully devs will sort this out in favour of the Note 3 shortly anyway.

The Galaxy S6 is MUCH LOUDER than the S5 (VIDEO)

So happy about this! The Galaxy S5 speaker was not very loud at all even at full volume
http://youtu.be/258qh9CidKA

smooth4lyfe said:
So happy about this! The Galaxy S5 speaker was not very loud at all even at full volume
http://youtu.be/258qh9CidKA
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Man his reaction was priceless hahahhah. The S6 is such a winner

it's already confirmed by samsung that it will be louder, but unless you're semi-deaf, louder isn't better if it still sounds like a tin-can like all the rest of the galaxy phones.. i have always been perfectly fine with the loudness of all the galaxies i've own, S3,4 and 5, i keep my ears pretty clean, would rather have better lows and mid sound than a phone that sounds like a screeching siren.
also the video is rather dumb as the S5 is laying flat on its speaker, so it's obvious which would be louder in that scenario.

tft said:
it's already confirmed by samsung that it will be louder, but unless you're semi-deaf, louder isn't better if it still sounds like a tin-can like all the rest of the galaxy phones.. i have always been perfectly fine with the loudness of all the galaxies i've own, S3,4 and 5, i keep my ears pretty clean, would rather have better lows and mid sound than a phone that sounds like a screeching siren.
also the video is rather dumb as the S5 is laying flat on its speaker, so it's obvious which would be louder in that scenario.
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My S5 speaker was not as loud as the S4 when I had it. Especially when the phone was flat down.
As for the video, they flipped the phone around towards the end
They said they S6 will have better Bass as well, we will see when it comes out
The iPhone 6 speaker is pretty good, hopefully its like that if not better

hopefully one day samsung will learn a thing or two from HTC with dual stereo speakers and put those damn upper and lower bezels to use rather than bloating it with a bunch of useless sensors...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0n8ssUJrfk

tft said:
hopefully one day samsung will learn a thing or two from HTC with dual stereo speakers and put those damn upper and lower bezels to use rather than bloating it with a bunch of useless sensors...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0n8ssUJrfk
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Atleast this I can agree on

I don't ever listen to music or movies without headphones, so I am happy with no front speakers taking up space.
I do, however, want a louder speaker for hearing the ringer and notifications in noisy areas.
A louder speakerphone than the S5 would be nice too. Even if tinny.

tft said:
also the video is rather dumb as the S5 is laying flat on its speaker, so it's obvious which would be louder in that scenario.
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In the end, they turn the s5 around so the speaker is facing up. They comment how that does not really make any difference to the volume level.
And I tried that with my girlfriends s5, as long as it is laying on a hard surface, there is little to no difference in volume level regardless of the speaker facing up or down.

smooth4lyfe said:
My S5 speaker was not as loud as the S4 when I had it. Especially when the phone was flat down.
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Waterproofing tends to do that.

lopri said:
Waterproofing tends to do that.
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not true. the Z3 is pretty damn loud, sounds great (almost comparable to HTC boom sound) and it's water resistant. again, it just all boils down to samsung using cheap speakers (at least in past devices) can't speak for the S6 yet as i haven't heard it in person.

tft said:
not true. the Z3 is pretty damn loud, sounds great (almost comparable to HTC boom sound) and it's water resistant. again, it just all boils down to samsung using cheap speakers (at least in past devices) can't speak for the S6 yet as i haven't heard it in person.
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Lol not even close.. Mr fanboy.

Tron666 said:
Lol not even close.. Mr fanboy.
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for the record i own NEITHER phones., but heard them both in person.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmy-lZjlz6M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwgYJh2zGVs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2Z_vp9NMB0
and if that isn't enough there are plenty more comparisons you can use the internet to find them..

tft said:
for the record i own NEITHER phones., but heard them both in person.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmy-lZjlz6M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwgYJh2zGVs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2Z_vp9NMB0
and if that isn't enough there are plenty more comparisons you can use the internet to find them..
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I did listen to the first two (didn't bother with the third but if you say there is a convincing proof in that clip I will watch it) and the HTC speakers sound fuller and more dynamic, and does not help proving your thesis?
I do have a Z Ultra and waterproofing does have negative impact on speaker quality. I think 3.5mm headphone jack volume suffers slightly, too.
tbh Speaker quality is not at the top of my list in selecting a smartphone, which is why I do not care about Z Ultra's speaker sound. But I do agree that there are situational benefit and that can vary significantly per individual usage pattern.

I know someone who has Z and, when I listened I thought the same, waterproofing has a bad impact on the quality

This sounds reasonable when I imagine that they need to prevent the inside from water and it means to give more limitation on the speaker.
David_freestyle said:
I know someone who has Z and, when I listened I thought the same, waterproofing has a bad impact on the quality
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could be dirty ears. funny because if you go in the Z3 forum you'd hardly find anyone complaining about sound.
regardless, the Z3 sounds better than any past samsung phone. any type of effect waterproofing has on sound is minor unless you're some anal audiophile.

Yes, I suppose it'll be fixed with time

I hope the S6 will be loud enough with BT earphones too, the good thing with my M8 is the loud volume output with earphones and BT earphones, I use the HTC stereoclip BT to 3.5mm adapter in my car too, so it's very important for me.
I am pretty much convinced to switch to S6 Edge instead of M9 for the camera and now the sound looks loud enough too :fingers-crossed:

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I hope the S6 will be loud enough with BT earphones too, the good thing with my M8 is the loud volume output with earphones and BT earphones, I use the HTC stereoclip BT to 3.5mm adapter in my car too, so it's very important for me.
I am pretty much convinced to switch to S6 Edge instead of M9 for the camera and now the sound looks loud enough too :fingers-crossed:
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In one of the Samsung Official hands on videos, they show the S6 playing music and a message about an "enhanced amplifier" is also shown. They could have possibly solved the low volume output through the use of this new amplifier and since the S6 should be using a Wolfram DAC, audio output should turn out to be pretty good.
http://youtu.be/LgeU-GjHMOk
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What is your view on the AKG headphones that come with the S8?

These things are incredible.
Used TIDAL Hi-Fi and on the EQ, turned up the 32hz lowest bass level all the way up. Incredible.

Much lighter than the beats that came with my HTC M7, but I haven't compared sound yet.

For me personally I don't like them at all I got used to using Bluetooth headphones and haven't been back since I'm not very happy with the included headphones so I went out and bought a Bluetooth Beats Solo 3 set and like those a lot. I got the over-the-ear kind .
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In my opinion they are way better than any beats headphones ive tried (Thats not saying much) I like them! But if it would have meant that the phone was 100 cheaper (or even 30$) if they didnt include them, that would have been nice.

Beats???seriously??
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Very awkward shape and I don't like that they suction your ears so you literally can't hear anything outside.

they're good for bundled headphones. they sound comparable to $40-50 earbuds, definitely not the $99 that samsung claims they're worth.

They're better than I expected, but my $100 SE215s still blow them out of the water, so I wouldn't really call them anything near high end.

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They're better than I expected, but my $100 SE215s still blow them out of the water, so I wouldn't really call them anything near high end.
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I have the shure se215 as well but I'm using the Xiaomi piston 3 which are bassier haven't touched the akg yet
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Very awkward shape and I don't like that they suction your ears so you literally can't hear anything outside.
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That's kinda the point with silicon-tipped bud-style headphones... And the shape is meant to fit perfectly to your ear, it definitely feels like a good fit to me.

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That's kinda the point with silicon-tipped bud-style headphones... And the shape is meant to fit perfectly to your ear, it definitely feels like a good fit to me.
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I still like Samsung's headphones from last year where it fit well but you could at least hear some of the outside world. Apple's earpods are decent too.
To me it's more about comfort and usability than quality. I have VMODA M100's for quality.

They are verry good. Plugged them into my pc...nice sound and loud. Verry dissapointed when im using yhem on my s8... Samsung did a poor job this year with the amplifier on this phone. Low bass...low volume. Htc M One and M8 are still the best phones for ppl that enjoy music on the go.

Coming from the Apple earpods, the AKG are just amazing.
The sound is better and the isolation is a killer compared to the earpods.

After personalizing the audio with Adapt Sound, and increasing the bass in the EQ, these headphones sound amazing.

I was pleasantly surprised by the AKG headphones. I've always been overly-attached to my BassBuds, but I could easily see myself using the AKG ones instead...especially as my kids love the BassBuds too and keep nicking off with them.
The sound isn't too bad, and I like the grey colour scheme. I find them a bit heavy on the bass right out of the box, but that works well when trying to ignore children. My only complaint would be that I don't find they sit in my ears very well. It is the main reason I love my BassBuds, they are comfortable and never fall out. I am doing a test run with the AKG headphones over the next week or so to see if they fall out.

Really uncomfortable for me. Even with larger tips, the bulky outside part is too close and actually hurts my ear. And sound was pretty meh. I am using Sennheiser Momentum earbuds at the moment. I have different set of issues with them (eartips fall out if you as much as look funny at them), but sound and comfort are great.

it is better than earphones came with previous Samsung phones, iPhone stock earphone, but you would get much better below 20 bucks earphone from Aliexrepss, especially Rock Zircon which is 12 bucks only.

Syn Ack said:
Very awkward shape and I don't like that they suction your ears so you literally can't hear anything outside.
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it's quite the opposite for me.
they have a very weak sound for me because even with the largest size cover they don't seal properly.
i can get them to seal properly by wearing them upside down, but that starts to hurt after a while.
it's a shame they stopped with the regular earbuds with a "mouth"
they could get full sound without requiring a perfect seal and without putting pressure on my ears.

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After personalizing the audio with Adapt Sound, and increasing the bass in the EQ, these headphones sound amazing.
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Where can I find this app?

golgothagecko said:
Where can I find this app?
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Go to settings, search Sound Quality and Effects. Click on it then run the Personalize Sound test.