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I am up for an upgrade in a week and have been weighing my options for a while and am currently leaning towards the Epic, but was hoping to get some insight from the Epic community and hopefully some people that have used both phones. My main concern with the Epic is that of Sammy and their history of not supporting hardware. I still have a bad taste in my mouth over the Instinct(great hardware, terrible software and support). I don't care that much about the home screen part of either or the mail app as I will be using GMail and LauncherPro. One question I have is how many serious and talented linux devs are there that work on the Epic? I know most of the Hero devs went to the Evo. I currently have a Hero running CM6. I like some parts of Sense, but it's performance was a major turn-off and was what made me turn to ASOP. As far as the keyboard goes, I am undecided on whether I will actually like/use it or not. The only thing I see myself using it for is gaming emulators. Another concern is I have heard something about GPS issues, have they been fixed or acknowledged? I am open to input and am truly on the border here. Also, has a root been found for the epic yet? This is a big one for me so that I can at least remove the sprint crapware.
I would say go for the evo. Not long ago I was in the same boat a you. I did a ton off research, and played with both phones extensively. I chose the evo, and it its the most amazing phone I've ever seen. Now that htc uncapped the fps, there is really no problems. The epic is great, but imo the evo is better.
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I own both. I prefer the Epic for the keyboard. However, I dislike its screen for late night bed surfing lol. All AMOLEDs are way too bright in the dark.
Couple other noticeable things for me:
Screen: Epic for brightness/colors, however EVO has better responsiveness (assuming hardware/software issue for Epic)
Screen FPS: Epic, but they just released official fix for EVO
Text input: Epic since it has hardware keyboard in addition to touch
Battery life: EVO hands down, my Epic seems to die too fast and I never used any type of battery saving application on EVO
Power button location: Blows on Epic, why did they put it on the side??
Phone Size: Epic is lighter and smaller
ROM Development: EVO because its a HTC device, but I hope this changes soon
And I'd go with the Epic. I got my girlfriend her first smartphone 3 months ago and got her the Evo. Played with it for a few weeks and definitely liked the phone. Then I came up for an upgrade and I had the same decision to make. I ended up chosing the Epic as it seems it is a fewer months older and has a few slight upgrades over the Evo, but not much.
The Epic screen is ridiculously amazing. They do NOT compare. I love having a hard keyboard, and I text a lot more because of it. It's been two phones and about 3 years since I had a keyboard, but I picked it right up and my fingers flew.
Touchwiz is very nice, but I got rid of it after a few days, well actually the 3rd day once I rooted. I did the same with Sense on my Hero, like it, but I rather go completely customizable with a custom launcher.
Another great thing about the Epic is the notificatoin settings bar. You can adjust a few settings like wifi, 4g, bluetooth, brightness and airplane mode all from the pull down bar. And it even works without Touchwiz, which was a surprise to me. This feature alone gives me a big vote for epic over evo.
It seems the Epic's cpu runs a little faster/more efficientyly than the Evo's. The battery life on both is about what you can expect, if you use it a lot, plan on charging it during the day. Are you into rooting and getting the most out of your phone? Then you can get extensively better battery duration.
Right now, there isn't a lot of extra stuff you can do on a rooted Epic, but the phone's only been out a few weeks and the Evo has a jumpstart on developmental stuff. Also, the Evo is already on 2.2 where the Epic is still on 2.1, although rumors have it getting 2.2 in the next month.
Gps issue is definitely a problem on the Epic. I use my GPS about 5 times a day as I travel to different sites for my job. There is a delay in getting a good lock, but there should be a fix for this soon, and it's not as bad as everyone makes it out to be. I usually get a lock within a minute. But I'll be happy when I get that instantaneous lock again.
One thing the Evo definitely has on the Epic is a bit bigger screen, .3", and HDMI out. That function is disabled on the Epic for some reason. I've heard a few reasons, but who knows. I use the DLNA option instead as my TV is new enough to support it.
I came from 3 generations of HTC phones before this, so it was hard for me to leave HTC. In the end, either way you're getting an awesome phone. so good luck with this decision!
epic camera owns the evo. period
I own both and would say EVO hands down. I thought the physical keyboard would be for me as that was the hardest to get used to on my EVO but after using both extensively I'd get the EVO. Where a few people like being able to adjust wifi/bluetooth and whatnot from the upper status pulldown, on the EVO it's a widget called "Power Control". To me this gives the same ease. Having both the EVO and the EPIC side by side I wouldn't say the EPIC screen blows away the EVO. Colors seem more blue on the EPIC and amoled is nice but I'd take my EVO any day for the .3 larger screen + it doesn't look bad at all.
Now if you're HEAVY into games and that's the main purpose for your phone then I'd recommend you get the EPIC. GPS isn't as big of an issue as people make it out to be BUT that being said there's been a few times when I needed it *now* and was waiting for about 3-5 minutes which I am sorry is NOT cool. The EVO locks on almost instantly, and most places I have tried indoor as well (obviously in a concrete office building it's not going to work... but at home in my bedroom it works fine).
I would suggest that you go to a Sprint store and really play with both for ~20 minutes each...
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monadzback said:
epic camera owns the evo. period
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Not true
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basically epic if u like physical kbs or evo if not
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Not true
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Yes it is.
Having owned, and done extensive reviews and research on both I can conclude that the Epic's camera is much better than the Evos. The saturation, contrast, and white balance are all superior. Not to mention the video camera is only bested by the iPhone4.
I owned the Evo b4 the Epic. I liked the Evo, because the development for the device is amazing. The kickstand on the Evo is also great and comes in handy. Now that the 30fps caps is removed, it is even a greater phone.
I chose the Epic for a smaller form factor in phone size. I had to use two hands to use the Evo and my fingers would not reach across the screen without touching my skin. The Evo camera is not as good as the Epic, 23 fps vs 29/30fps at a constant rate. I like have an option of a physical keyboard to use only *if* I am typing a long email, playing a emulator or just getting tired of using the on screen keyboard. The AMOLED screen pwns the LCD screen and the Epics GPU is amazing, I run everything smoothly on my Epic.
In my opinion they are both great phones, but if you prefer a bigger form factor and a great development scene go for the Evo. If you prefer a great overall device that has everything built in for a phone then choose the Epic.
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Yes it is.
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2010/09/epic-vs-evo-the-cameras/
The EVO can't shoot HD video in low light situations. It goes at around 10-15 FPS. It's blurrier during the day. It over saturates the colors. The 8MP on the camera is totally pointless because the quality of the camera doesn't measure up.
My Epic takes much better pictures than my EVO. But regardless... there are far MORE IMPORTANT reasons to get a phone.
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I own both. I prefer the Epic for the keyboard. However, I dislike its screen for late night bed surfing lol. All AMOLEDs are way too bright in the dark.
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lol I agree! I own both also and the super AMOLED is way too bright even at its lowest setting. I do love both devices equally though
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monadzback said:
epic camera owns the evo. period
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Have you owned both? Care to give any reasons/data explaining why?
hydralisk said:
Yes it is.
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2010/09/epic-vs-evo-the-cameras/
The EVO can't shoot HD video in low light situations. It goes at around 10-15 FPS. It's blurrier during the day. It over saturates the colors. The 8MP on the camera is totally pointless because the quality of the camera doesn't measure up.
My Epic takes much better pictures than my EVO. But regardless... there are far MORE IMPORTANT reasons to get a phone.
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Apparently you haven't used cm6 on the EVO. IT does wonders for the camera and does things that no other camera app does as of yet; touch to focus while in camcorder mode....I get 24ish fps in 720p in low light with cm6.
Look, I own both, they both have their pros/cons but NEVER ever would I say one owns the other. It almost like Mac vs. PC they both do some things well....and others not so well.
Epic, is my vote, root is already out. Out of the box, epic is so much better. I still have my evo, but I never pick it up.
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My pick is the Evo. I got the Epic at launch, but it never felt right for me. I was also annoyed at the current bugs, which I can confirm it has. I just didn't have faith in Samsung to come out with a fix for them all, especially in my 30 window.
I returned it for the Evo and was amazed how much more I liked the Evo. Just feels like the better phone imo. Battery life is much better on the Evo than the Epic for me too.
Good luck.
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Either one you pick you wil be happy. I ended up going with the epic for the better screen, better processor and gpu and the keyboard. Even though im starting to use the screen keyboard alot more now that i installed the droid x keyboard.. i take the train to work everyday so i watch movies and play games on a daily basis.. and despite the screen size disadvantage the epic has.. movies look so much better.. and believe me i've tried both
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jok3sta said:
Either one you pick you wil be happy.
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Agreed! They are both good machines(?), err phones. As I said in an earlier post, it'd be stupid to not go to Sprint and really play with both for like 10-20 minutes each. Download quadrant, neocore, your favorite app(s), etc., etc. and run it all on both and make an informed decision. Most Sprint employees (around were I live) recommend the EVO, that said, don't let a sales person sway you one way or another.
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Agreed! They are both good machines(?), err phones. As I said in an earlier post, it'd be stupid to not go to Sprint and really play with both for like 10-20 minutes each. Download quadrant, neocore, your favorite app(s), etc., etc. and run it all on both and make an informed decision. Most Sprint employees (around were I live) recommend the EVO, that said, don't let a sales person sway you one way or another.
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I plan on it. I have been to best buy twice, but for some reason in their great wisdom they only have mockups so you cant play around with them. I am going to buy it at best buy so I get my reward points and better returns.
I have both, bought Evo, really liked it, but when the Epic came out, tried it, loved it, gave Evo to hubby.
Handsize and feel is important to me, the Epic fits hand better, buttons are in more convenient place for one hand usage, Love Swype, love screen, rooted but staying with Touchwiz because its so smooth (and waiting for 2.2
before I mess with other roms). The pics are awesome, as are some of the apps, especially Google Sky. It actually runs a little faster than Evo in opening apps.
Now hubby loves Evo, bigger feel in hands, screen, but to me, colors look more washed out. However, he is color blind so can tell no difference.
I came from rooted Hero, so like Touchwiz better than Sense. Its a comfort zone, they are both great, play with them, if we didn't have two to chose from, everyone would like the one choice they have.
P.S. My only wish would be no keyboard on Epic and thinner, never use it with large on screen keyboards and Swype.
I searched through the forums quite a bit and even good but have yet to find anything specific. I'm not sure which phone to get since I can not find a rooted comparison.
Please read about my HTC Hero and my original thoughts here:
jpklink.blogspot.com
Main Points:
Weight and size are not an issue: Glass screen is a +
Price is not an issue.
Standard Mini USB charging is a +
Battery life is not so important.
Texting Speed is 100% most important item - my hero can not keep up with my fingers and it is beyond frustrating.
I know this is the Epic forum so I can't say I don't expect you to be bias, but it would be nice to hear anything at all. Just wanted to hear how the phones compare as BOTH rooted devices with all speed benefits.
As of now the epic has an issue where it will miss keys on the physical keyboard every so often. Txlexting speed is also very important to me (I have an epic) and I have been dissappinted with the physical keyboard to say the least. That being said, the evo does not even have a physical keyboard and you could use any keyboard from the evo on the epic. The app "Smart keyboard" is the best of all that I have tried. The screen on the epic is also substantially better than the evo. The evo gets updates before the epic because it is an htc phone so that is always something to consider. Good luck.
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If you fancy yourself with modding then an Evo is a clear cut winner. There are much more Roms, Mods, and source codes are always released first for HTC phones. Samsung has a history of not really supporting their devices. Epic is no exception. And if you look at the news today in the Android world, signs point to Samsung focusing on supporting Windows 7 phones in 2011 while Android will slowly move to the back seat. http: //phandroid.com/2010/11/22/samsung-focusing-more-on-windows-7-in-2011-but-will-it-matter/
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And if you look at the news today in the Android world, signs point to Samsung focusing on supporting Windows 7 phones in 2011 while Android will slowly move to the back seat. http: //phandroid.com/2010/11/22/samsung-focusing-more-on-windows-7-in-2011-but-will-it-matter/
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Damn
Samusung needs to give up on smartphones because they have no clue what their doing.
They have great screens & top notch processor but missing the most important factors. QC & SUPPORT!!!
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Damn
Samusung needs to give up on smartphones because they have no clue what their doing.
They have great screens & top notch processor but missing the most important factors. QC & SUPPORT!!!
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Yeah you can tell how tarded they are by them having the hottest phone on the planet and neglecting it.
MLHickey:
Actually, I completely forgot to mention, I don't know that I would use the keyboard much anyway. I guess if it was there, I may start to use it, but I like the touch screen keyboard, I'm quite fast with them. In fact I still use T9 a LOT, especially while I'm driving. So as far as the keyboard goes, not a huge pro/con for me. When I mention texting speeds, I just want the phone to be able to keep up with me. My experience with the HTC hero is bad in the sense that I'll be waiting every few words for the phone to catch up so I can check for errors before continuing to type.
imwillzillla:
Those are some really good points! So if I root the Evo with a custom rom, the speeds will be comparable to a rooted epic? And how come HTC stuff comes out first/sooner? Just because the phone has been out longer?
Windows 7... ew. Those are definitely some good points. Do HTC updates and that matter much if I'm installing a custom ROM?
Thanks guys.
Note: I heard the Evo now comes stocked with something that prevents it from being rooted and still today they've yet to break it. Any truth to this?
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MLHickey:
Note: I heard the Evo now comes stocked with something that prevents it from being rooted and still today they've yet to break it. Any truth to this?
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My Evo is a week old and UnrEVOked worked fine for me.
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My Evo is a week old and UnrEVOked worked fine for me.
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Great news. I've been leaning towards the evo... looks like it's decided. Thanks again MLHickey.
Last note is, should I wait for early 2011 in case HTC releases something crazy. I mean, I can live on my HTC hero a few more months if I need to.
Just thought as an epic owner Im obligated to reply. The choice is a hard one, but the epic is faster, a better screen (even if slightly smaller) and since its basically stock android doesnt need roms like cynagen to be super fast and its only slightly thicker then the evo. You also get better battery life on the epic.
As for the keyboard, its really not that bad, and a keyboard is better then nothing at times when touch typing just isnt working out as planned.
I had the same hard decesion and luckily when I was visiting home a few weeks ago I got to play with my parents evo. Don't let the benchmarks fool you, the epic is much faster, plus that screen, you get size shock from the evo, but color and contrast shock from the epic. Plus you can install htcs awesome on screen keyboard on the epic. Its the best of all worlds in my book. The evo will have faster updates though, but really.. updates are almost superficial because by time android 2.2 is unsupported should they stop there you will likely be getting a new phone. Gps might or might not work better on the evo, some epics are fine, others aren't.
Just my 2 cents.
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Just thought as an epic owner Im obligated to reply. The choice is a hard one, but the epic is faster, a better screen (even if slightly smaller) and since its basically stock android doesnt need roms like cynagen to be super fast and its only slightly thicker then the evo. You also get better battery life on the epic.
As for the keyboard, its really not that bad, and a keyboard is better then nothing at times when touch typing just isnt working out as planned.
I had the same hard decesion and luckily when I was visiting home a few weeks ago I got to play with my parents evo. Don't let the benchmarks fool you, the epic is much faster, plus that screen, you get size shock from the evo, but color and contrast shock from the epic. Plus you can install htcs awesome on screen keyboard on the epic. Its the best of all worlds in my book. The evo will have faster updates though, but really.. updates are almost superficial because by time android 2.2 is unsupported should they stop there you will likely be getting a new phone. Gps might or might not work better on the evo, some epics are fine, others aren't.
Just my 2 cents.
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But what about Epic's ugly azz cool color temperature?! Whites look grey on it, screen has blue tint... sorry, photographer coming out in me, but Evo's colors are much more accurate.
quote: "especially while I'm driving. " i dont care what phone you have, this is dangerous and very stupid. please refrain from texting while driving.
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Just thought as an epic owner Im obligated to reply. The choice is a hard one, but the epic is faster, a better screen (even if slightly smaller) and since its basically stock android doesnt need roms like cynagen to be super fast and its only slightly thicker then the evo. You also get better battery life on the epic.
As for the keyboard, its really not that bad, and a keyboard is better then nothing at times when touch typing just isnt working out as planned.
I had the same hard decesion and luckily when I was visiting home a few weeks ago I got to play with my parents evo. Don't let the benchmarks fool you, the epic is much faster, plus that screen, you get size shock from the evo, but color and contrast shock from the epic. Plus you can install htcs awesome on screen keyboard on the epic. Its the best of all worlds in my book. The evo will have faster updates though, but really.. updates are almost superficial because by time android 2.2 is unsupported should they stop there you will likely be getting a new phone. Gps might or might not work better on the evo, some epics are fine, others aren't.
Just my 2 cents.
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Is your two cents from owning both? My battery lasts way longer than my girls epic
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BrianDigital said:
Is your two cents from owning both? My battery lasts way longer than my girls epic
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I'm not tryna sound biased but u gotta be kidding me.. maybe ur gf's usage is much higher.. honestly 4 of my friends have evo's and whenever we're chilling on either of our houses, they fight over the charger.. although my epic is rooted and has custom rom+kernel and their evo doesn't but even b4 i rooted mine i had much better battery life..
The keyboard on this thing is not great, but it beats having none. WPM will not be high with this keyboard, although accuracy is not bad. Still, coming from a Hero, I really like having a keyboard now.
The main gripe is Samsung's poor support, small ROM, and the gps on this thing.
If you text a lot, this should still be your choice as it is faster than virtual keyboards.
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Is your two cents from owning both? My battery lasts way longer than my girls epic
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Lets be a smarta$$ about it.
Anyways.
No. I have asked about the Evo's battery life and I quite frequently hear it hardly makes it through the day from people who DO own them. I've had mine unplugged with moderate use and plenty of calls since 7am and its at 40% right now at 11PM. Now to be fair.. my Epic is rooted with the battery sucking processes from Sprint/Samsung cut out, the Evo's i've heard about are stock. If both were rooted you'd probably cut similar results.
They both have 1500MAH batteries, they will both be roughly the same if you cut the fat out of each I imagine.
As for the screen, yeah the colors are not as accurate, but you're not going to notice, they have a cooler look to them which bothers the heck out of graphics designers and the like heh heh but really.. it's still stunning in comparison to the evo, but thats just MY opinion.
You really need to go into the Sprint store and play with both as much as you can.... you really can't go wrong with either of them and their pro's and con's split pretty evenly.
1) for the keyboard issue..try disabling Swype and use the hardware kb.
2) Epic even with the custom roms we have is doing fairly well...I mean take all the custom roms on the EVO and the Epic and you'll notice there isn't too much difference...most of the advantages EVO had was gotten from the Nexus One which hopefully we will get from the Nexus S.
3) You can do a bunch with custom roms on the EVO to make it run smoother but It'll never run as smooth as the epic.
4) The colors can't be more accurate on the EVO because its only 64k colors..if anything Droid X has probably the most accurate colors...but since EVO is only 64k colors it won't be accurate...the Super AMOLED tends to be mroe blue because the blue dies out the fastest...over time it balances itself out...on my device though if I set it to 100% brightness its white as I lower the brightness it turns grayish..but thats what lowering brightness is suppose to do...
5) Yeah.. texting while driving is bad...
6) Battery life varies by your usage..overall though if you configure it best you can on both devices Epic will win.
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Lets be a smarta$$ about it.
Anyways.
No. I have asked about the Evo's battery life and I quite frequently hear it hardly makes it through the day from people who DO own them. I've had mine unplugged with moderate use and plenty of calls since 7am and its at 40% right now at 11PM. Now to be fair.. my Epic is rooted with the battery sucking processes from Sprint/Samsung cut out, the Evo's i've heard about are stock. If both were rooted you'd probably cut similar results.
They both have 1500MAH batteries, they will both be roughly the same if you cut the fat out of each I imagine.
As for the screen, yeah the colors are not as accurate, but you're not going to notice, they have a cooler look to them which bothers the heck out of graphics designers and the like heh heh but really.. it's still stunning in comparison to the evo, but thats just MY opinion.
You really need to go into the Sprint store and play with both as much as you can.... you really can't go wrong with either of them and their pro's and con's split pretty evenly.
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i had to read that twice, he wasnt talkin about you only having two cents... he was referring to owning both phones... just kinda seemed like u took that the wrong way...
Personally, I never got to actually play around with an evo but I will say these things about my epic:
The keyboard, though sometimes annoying, is a great bonus to have for those who text/email/im/fb/whatever a lot. And you can bring the htc keyboard over to the epic as well.
The battery life on custom roms/kernels seems to be better when compared to most evo scenarios (I don't have an evo so don't quote me)
The color temps can be fixed using voodoo color.
The phone DEFINITELY responds better to user input than the evo, hands down (probably due to the evo having so much bloat, and also due to the better built cortex processor)
Updates on the evo happen more quickly, this is very true. But our devs have done a great job fixing MOST of our major issues.
This is a big one that people seem to be failing to mention. The new froyo modems seem to FIX gps PERMANENTLY. I've been running wifi on my epic for days without a reboot and gps is on hot start (not using the cold start workaround) and every time I get a full lock within seconds (using gps status).
All in all, I love my epic and the way it runs thanks to our community, but if you want a more reliable manufacturer (and a community that isn't chock full of spoiled brats who's parents bought them the phone), go with the evo.
If you can deal with the slower updates and the forum nonsense, go with the epic.
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Lol!
I think more kids end up with an epic over an evo just because of the keyboard. Look son it has a keyboard so you can type fast! "OMG L33T AHH! SWEET!" lol..
I wonder how many kids actually are on these forums when I was 12 I wasn't looking for ways to hack my cell phone... then again when I was 12 I think that Motorola "flip" phone that looked like something outta star trek was the most popular one for being so "portable". lol
uhm no, thats why there are sidekicks.. i doubt u will c a kid with an epic or evo..
I do love my X, but I have grown a little tired of the size and form factor. I am a little worried I might be disappointed with the battery life and a possible resale value on the INC if I do make the switch.
Anyone had a good experience going to the INC form the X?
I haven't had an X myself but I don't know why you should be concerned about resale value..you're using the phone.
The form factor of the DX sucks IMO, it's bulky and ugly.
The Incredible's screen is much nicer quality too, even the SLCD version. When comparing the screen sizes it's like quantity vs. quality.
If you're into custom ROMs and such, the INC is a great phone.
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I haven't had an X myself but I don't know why you should be concerned about resale value..you're using the phone.
The form factor of the DX sucks IMO, it's bulky and ugly.
The Incredible's screen is much nicer quality too, even the SLCD version. When comparing the screen sizes it's like quantity vs. quality.
If you're into custom ROMs and such, the INC is a great phone.
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Only thinking about resale to help me buy a new phone when some newer versions come out (I had used the new every 2, even though its gone now, on X release date).
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I am a little worried I might be disappointed with the battery life and a possible resale value on the INC if I do make the switch.
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I can assure you not to worry about the resale value because, INC has a higher resale value than DX. INC is about $152 while DX is only about $96.
Check it out here!
https://www.trade-in.vzw.com/Home.aspx
fortesquieu said:
I can assure you not to worry about the resale value because, INC has a higher resale value than DX. INC is about $152 while DX is only about $96.
Check it out here!
https://www.trade-in.vzw.com/Home.aspx
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Hrmm I wonder why that is. I have been trying to look at what people are selling these for in the forums.
I had the x and switched to the dinc. HTC does a way better job with Android if you ask me. The community does much better with HTC devices as well. Sense is a must have for me as well.
Even though the evo sold mass amount of phones, I think its too big. I the x was just as big and drove me crazy. I like the size of the dinc. With the evos 1500 mAh battery in my dinc, I can last all day no problem.
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I had an X and returned it for an Incredible. Part of the reason was because the Incredible was free and the X had cost me $200. That said, the Incredible feels faster, even with slightly slower hardware, thanks to HTC's superior software. Motorola's software package is pretty terrible.
I made that switch. The battery life is definitely worse on the incredible. I missed the big screen at first. Made the incredible seem extra small coming from the X. I have an slcd incredible and even that screen seems to have much more contrast than the Droid x. I like running cyanogenmod and custom kernels so im enjoying the incredible.
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I had the x and switched to the dinc. HTC does a way better job with Android if you ask me. The community does much better with HTC devices as well. Sense is a must have for me as well.
Even though the evo sold mass amount of phones, I think its too big. I the x was just as big and drove me crazy. I like the size of the dinc. With the evos 1500 mAh battery in my dinc, I can last all day no problem.
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Wait a minute! The Evo battery fits the DInc? Please confirm!
I'm actually confused myself. On htcpedia there is the 1500mah for $40 for the incredible .... but the 1500mah for the evo is $30... are they the same and does it matter?
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Wait a minute! The Evo battery fits the DInc? Please confirm!
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Yes.
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X might be a nice phone but with a locked bootloader that's harder to get in than Fort knox...no thanks I will stick with my Incredible
I went from an Incredible to an X back to the Incredible
The X had nothing but issues, and screen wasn't nearly as gorgeous as the AMOLED one.
The Sense UI is the best UI you can get for Android, in my opinion hands down the best.
The hardware of the Incredible feels faster too like another poster said, on the X my friend and I were in a parking garage waiting to get a GPS signal, i pulled my Incredible out and mine found our location when the X was still looking for 10 more mins.
The X is also too tall, it doesn't use the right screen ratio like the EVO and ThunderBolt will.
The developer community is the best on EVO/Incredible vs Droid 1/2/X
and I also develop themes for Incredible which i'll be moving on to ThunderBolt
I just got an inc keeping my x to try this out. Only two things so far I don't like:
-can see the touchscreen sensors on a white background(emails or web usually)
-touch screen isn't quite as accurate as the x
-there was a hair under the glass screen. Looks like the screen isn't that tight around the body. Compressed air blew it right out though.
On a positive sense KILLS blur! The overall feel is great, better widgets, comfortable formfactor.
I had an X until 2 weeks ago. I miss it... The screen size is enough for me to be trying to get it back. I have BIG hands and I could fly texting on my X but on this, Im hitting backspace more than any other key, even with auto correct. The reason I traded was to be able to customize more which is definitely better. Another issue is with games. The Inc is slow to respond and it glitches and pauses all the time playing homerun battle 3d. The X NEVER did that. I don't know, they both have their positives and negatives but my hands alone are the reason I'm trying to trade back to an X. BUT I will come back to HTC when the Thunderbolt comes out. NO DOUBT, cause sense destroys blur. always had to use Luancherpro on the X but never on the Inc because of the custom roms...
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I just got an inc keeping my x to try this out. Only two things so far I don't like:
-can see the touchscreen sensors on a white background(emails or web usually)
-touch screen isn't quite as accurate as the x
-there was a hair under the glass screen. Looks like the screen isn't that tight around the body. Compressed air blew it right out though.
On a positive sense KILLS blur! The overall feel is great, better widgets, comfortable formfactor.
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What do you mean by the touch screen isn't as accurate? My friend and my cousin both have the X, my brother has the Fascinate, and I have the Incredible. I've used all 3 phones extensively and in my experience, the X has the least responsive touch screen of all. Do you mean accuracy as in trying to click on small links on web pages or something? If that's the case it might just be because the screen is smaller; if you're having trouble you could try highlighting the link or button that you want to click with the trackpad.
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i have the droid incredible and i bought the droid x on the week it came out.
Immiatlely i was dissappointed at the same time some things were great.
The low audio on the navigation even with the windows up made it unusable with turn by turn directions... im sure they fixed this.
The ****ty Moto UI = **** sammitch.
The below average quality of the lcd, it looked washed out and bland compared to my incredible.
The large 4.3 inch screen was awesome to surf on.
it was thin for a large phone.
It was new.
I have had many phones in the past and none of them gave me the same kind of user experience as HTC and sadly the iphone.
If i was technically retarded and was an old woman i would have kept my iphone..
But nobody besides HTC has made a better phone AND UI...
Samsung UI = **** , hardware = ok, software updates = ****
Motorola UI = **** see above
LG = **** **** and more ****
Sony = erickson = ****
nokia = failing ball of **** sammitch.. check their stocks.
Blackberry = corporate fail, good comm device.. everything else is 10 years behind.
iphone = boring plus your instantly enrolled in a group of 10 year olds and wanna be tech folks ... and mothers...any phone an old woman is comfortable using is a phone i do not want.
Well I had to trade the INC back because there was dust collecting under the screen. I am absolutely in LOVE with the phone compared to the X. But the big question I can't decide on now is:
Do I sell my X and go buy an INC retail so I at least have a 1 year warranty on it or buy one used and hope for the best (buying a new one would probably cost me 230 or so).
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I had an X until 2 weeks ago. I miss it... The screen size is enough for me to be trying to get it back. I have BIG hands and I could fly texting on my X but on this, Im hitting backspace more than any other key, even with auto correct. The reason I traded was to be able to customize more which is definitely better. Another issue is with games. The Inc is slow to respond and it glitches and pauses all the time playing homerun battle 3d. The X NEVER did that. I don't know, they both have their positives and negatives but my hands alone are the reason I'm trying to trade back to an X. BUT I will come back to HTC when the Thunderbolt comes out. NO DOUBT, cause sense destroys blur. always had to use Luancherpro on the X but never on the Inc because of the custom roms...
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Yeah games was the only thing, but I haven't played one game on my X except for paper toss. Not such a big deal to me.
I started on an X... rooted it, ROMed it (to the extent that it can be, anyway), and tried to be patient while the devs cracked the boot...and got tired of waiting. I traded it to a friend straight up for an AMOLED DInc after 3 months, and seriously, there's no comparison. I love the freedom to load CM, or Ruby, or SkyRaider on my phone. I love the ability to remap the soft keys on my HTC or use QuickDesk or PowerStrip (neither of them can be done on the X due to the locking down of the hard keys by Moto).
The only two things that I miss about the X are the bigger screen, which I really liked, and the fact that Moto's build quality is very good (it always has been), but that is it. I'll never buy another motorola product ever again unless I hear that it is open- and not because I'm some sort of super-dev, either- simply because I get better support from the dev community whose ROMs I run when I have a problem than I've ever gotten from Moto or Verizon.
The X had pretty impressive specs, but it was absolutely weighted down under Blur... SOOOO slow. I didn't even realize how slow it was until I rooted and ROMed it using rubiX, which is truly an awesome ROM considering how locked the X is, but even then it really had a lot of stupid issues (random rebooting, etc.). Then once I found out that I couldn't connect to the 802.1x wifi at my school (a known motorola issue which STILL has yet to be fixed on the DX and D2), it was over.
I've gone DInc and never regretted it.
As far as the screen, I really think that SLCD vs. AMOLED is personal preference. The colors on AMOLED are suuuuper saturated, very "thick" looking to my eyes. I don't mind SLCD screen colors or look at all, but they're definitely toned down compared to AMOLED.
What about the processor speed? Well, both of them have 1gHz processors, and with the current battery technology we have right now, I really wouldn't want much more than a that- anything faster just eats battery, really. I get some lulz from all the spec queens out there who OC their phones to 1.5 and higher, and who have to have the latest dual-core processors- they're going to spend their whole lives plugged in to the wall cuz their batteries won't last 6 hours, and then complain about bad battery life. My 1gHz snapdragon loads pages, flash, and videos from the web with no problem. I've seen the AnandTech reviews about the DX's processor being slightly faster than the DInc's, but then you have to consider Blur and (REALLY) crappy Moto software and bloat (VZW navigator, Visual Voicemail, City ID, etc.) slowing everything down again. My CM7 / ADW EX DInc is hella snappy, and I get through almost 36 hours per charge (HTC Imagio 1700mAh battery) with frequent use. No OC/UCing, totally stock.
I AM looking forward to LTE tho. That should be a real improvement. Anyway, I'm off the soapbox. Hope this helped? I dunno. I'm sittin here drinkin coffee and saw this thread. Good luck.
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Hello, I have a droidx and am finally tired of the locked bootloader. I was thinking of getting the dinc but wanted to get some peoples input first about the dinc.
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This is the best phone I've ever had and it's super easy to root. My only issue after having it for almost a year is the screen has started feeling to small to me. I wish it had a 4 inch screen. Other than that and the terrible battery life with the stock battery it is an amazing phone.
Here's a thread with a rather similar topic with some very good points made in it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=955671
Thanx guys, after reading the stuff from the link I think im gonna get the dinc for now until I qualify for an upgrade : )
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I was debating between Inc, DX and Fascinate when it came time to upgrade for me... I'm soooooo glad I went with the incredible. I knew it would be a gamble with the DX and its locked bootloader and the fascinate was still a new entity at this point and I wasn't sure if the homebrew scene would explode like it had for the evo/incredible. In the end my reservations proved correct; the droid x never got fully unlocked and the fascinate scene never took off.
Make the switch. You'll love the vast selection of roms and kernels and what-have-yous. As mentioned battery life is behind other devices, which is why I highly recommend the 1500mah Evo battery (fits in our case just barely) as well as the 2150mah incredible battery (comes with a bigger backplate, adds bulk but is widely accepted as worth it). Both are OEM, not third party. I have both and alternate between the two, charging the one I'm not using on a seidio external battery charger (the inc also has some charging issues, this circumvents that). I'm unsure if the latest kernels have solved the charging issues, but it is highly possible.
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The Dinc is awesome. Highly recommend it.
i just made the same switch. i had a few great roms on the Droid X including Liberty, but i hated the random reboots and freezes that plagued me even with the stock rom. i think the droid incredible is one of the best androids out there. i've got a Sense 2.0 rom, with a white battery cover and a 1500 mah battery. great combo. good luck!
My dad actually has a droid x, while I have the incredible. I was trying to help him with getting a custom kernel but found there are none at all for the droid x, and only 2-3 ROM's. Pretty big letdown considering the incredible currently has about 10 different kernels and over 40 or so ROM's.
The new kernel and ROM's gotten from here has hugely helped in terms of performance and battery life, so although droid x is rated to have a battery that lasts longer, my incredible passes up my dad's phone by hours- even with more use out of it. Motorolla Blur is a big slowdown on his phone too, still trying to help him out with getting the bloat off his phone- but the community is considerably smaller than the incredible's.
thanx for all the replies guys I'm deffinately going to switch asap so hopefully I can find one for cheap bc I don't qualify for an upgrade yet : /
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thanx for all the replies guys I'm deffinately going to switch asap so hopefully I can find one for cheap bc I don't qualify for an upgrade yet : /
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I just made the switch, and am very happy. Although check out both the AMOLED screen and the SLCD. I couldn't use the AMOLED because of the pen-tile matrix that made it look horrible coming from the X which had a great screen.
You might want to try no find someone on craigslist who wanted to trade. Thats what I did, and it worked out great.
LOVE IT!
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This is the best phone I've ever had and it's super easy to root. My only issue after having it for almost a year is the screen has started feeling to small to me. I wish it had a 4 inch screen. Other than that and the terrible battery life with the stock battery it is an amazing phone.
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I disagree, yu don't notice the screen size and the battery life is NOT bad at all if you know how to use the phone this is not good advice IMHO.
TheEnzyteGuy said:
Hello, I have a droidx and am finally tired of the locked bootloader. I was thinking of getting the dinc but wanted to get some peoples input first about the dinc.
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I have the dinc as my work phone and I have to say I love it. super fast, easy to carry and fun to use. the other phone I have is an EVO and it has it's pros too i tend to favor the Incredible. just my 2 cents
I'm considering the Thunderbolt.. which is the same size screen as the X.. is it too big? I hate the X it seems too big I'm afraid I'll feel the same about the TBolt
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I just made the switch, and am very happy. Although check out both the AMOLED screen and the SLCD. I couldn't use the AMOLED because of the pen-tile matrix that made it look horrible coming from the X which had a great screen.
You might want to try no find someone on craigslist who wanted to trade. Thats what I did, and it worked out great.
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I wish I had the choice between AMOLED and SLCD when I got mine. I feel that for my uses the SLCD is superior, but I've learned to appreciate what the AMOLED has to offer. For instance, the biggest flaw of the AMOLED (pentile) can also be a boon of sorts. Because of it's interlacing effect, old school roms like SNES games look far better on AMOLED screens due to their similarities with old tube televisions which hid much of the jagginess/low resolution artifacts. So amoled screens generally make older games look great since they blur the edges and hide the low res imperfections, just like our 1992 CRT televisions did. And that's not even mentioning the vibrant color reproduction enhancing the image further.
However, Samsung solved the AMOLED issue. They just revealed their new pixel arrangement for new SAMOLED screens which has the crystal clear effect of an LCD screen along with the vibrant colors we're used to. Still, I feel glad I own one of these legacy AMOLEDs for the reasons stated above.
The general rule of thumb (IMO) is if you do lots of web surfing/text reading, SLCD is superior. Current gen amoleds only excel in the games/media department.
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I'm considering the Thunderbolt.. which is the same size screen as the X.. is it too big? I hate the X it seems too big I'm afraid I'll feel the same about the TBolt
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I also did not get the X because of it being rather large. The incredible was more compact and that was initially why I went with it.
You may want to think again before getting the T-Bolt:
http://androidcommunity.com/htc-thu...ored-to-be-due-to-poor-battery-life-20110228/
If it's going to get worse battery life than the incredible, there's no way I would ever consider buying it.
i exchanged my DInc for an X thinking it would be better. wrong. 3 days later i was back on my Dinc. best phone i have ever had. the X was just too awkward for me to hold.
1800mah batt, white batery door, root and whatever ROM i feel like today= 1 very satisfied DInc owner.
blockhead42 said:
I just made the switch, and am very happy. Although check out both the AMOLED screen and the SLCD. I couldn't use the AMOLED because of the pen-tile matrix that made it look horrible coming from the X which had a great screen.
You might want to try no find someone on craigslist who wanted to trade. Thats what I did, and it worked out great.
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My opinion, but the DInc blows the DX away as far as screen quality. Small pixels / white on black text caused the display to flicker the words. It was incredibly annoying.
I totally agree, Love my Dinc but the battery sucks. Easy to Root.
I bought my wife the X and I am not very impressed with it.
You might wait a few weeks and get the new Thunderbolt.
So this is my plan, im going to get a dinc for now unil I qualify for an upgrade in a year. Once I get the upgrade ill upgrade to something more spectacular at that point if I choose
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Droid Inc FTW!
That is all...
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I concur :] its going to be difficult moving to a new device come April. I always worry that the community wont be as cool and awesome as the Dinc's is!
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I'm really going to miss it when I get a upgrade. We have really nice and very helpful people on the community family!
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Cheers to this. It's weird seeing less activity these days due to people upgrading. I've learned a lot here in just one year of joining XDA.
This phone was awesome, I still have it laying around next to my computer, with WarmTwoPointThree, but this Rezound is such a perfect thing to upgrade to. It's nice to see a phone grow up like this, whereas with the inc, I started lurking here back when Sense 3.0 was going around, and the biggest thing. ICS Sense is awesome guys, just saying
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Yeah, everyone here has been really helpful. But I'm starting to see other forums here develop similarly as their phones are rooted.
I was lucky that by the time I rooted my AMOLED DInc (a year after getting it), there was already a strong community here to help me through.
But perhaps the most important lesson I learned is that, while HTC hardware is nice, I don't really like Sense (especially now that I've been running CM7 for a year now). If HTC introduces an HD phone with a Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 chipset, I'll be all over it. If it's a different vendor, then they will get my money. You see, now that I see how easy it is to customize a phone after it's gotten rooted, I really don't care too much about who made it.
And if I don't like any of the phones announced at MWC, I'll probably pick up an LG Spectrum and see what I can do with it...
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i think im going to keep this phone till it dies. its the perfect size. i get great battery life and will all the development that has gone into it. It might not be supported but the great devs out there but it still lives on.
I'm so glad I went with the Incredible (although late). The only gripe is I use the 3500 extended battery and wished I didn't have to, as it does give it a bulky look.
But like they say, it's what's on the inside that counts right?
I notice I have been keeping tabs on the so-called HTC Edge/Endeavor that is supposed to be revealed next month.
Definitely a great community for help, and also some of the best dev's are here. I bought a Fascinate (for a semi-upgrade), and the community is lacking there. Sadly, I think I'll be parting the Incredible, for an upgrade to GN or Rezound.
If only HTC decided to make another Incredible with Rezound specs, and 4" 720p display with ICS/4G
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If only HTC decided to make another Incredible with Rezound specs, and 4" 720p display with ICS/4G
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A 4" screen is the most ideal IMO. I have no qualms with watching movies on the 3.7", but as I matured with the phone I guess I should step up in size as my video viewing has increased immensely.
A 4.7-ish" screen sounds scary but I'm sure I can adapt.
I finally went to see the nexus at my local Verizon last night and wow...compared to the inc screen, it is kinda big. I do want to get it for ICS, 4G, font facing camera, etc. but I don't really need a screen that big (that's how I feel), I guess I’m going to wait a bit longer to see what's coming out in the next few months. Plus, I hate the fact that after being a vz customer for a long time, the phone upgrade price is higher than a new customer price. (I saw new customer price on amazon.com for $99), why don't they have incentives for users to stay with the same company.
Also, I wish there was a doc or something listing the devs/themes/testers/etc. of the inc and where they are now in terms of dev/themes/etc, which phones they have moved on to....sometimes it would make switching a bit easier.
PS --- I love the droid incredible.
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I finally went to see the nexus at my local Verizon last night and wow...compared to the inc screen, it is kinda big. I do want to get it for ICS, 4G, font facing camera, etc. but I don't really need a screen that big (that's how I feel), I guess I’m going to wait a bit longer to see what's coming out in the next few months. Plus, I hate the fact that after being a vz customer for a long time, the phone upgrade price is higher than a new customer price. (I saw new customer price on amazon.com for $99), why don't they have incentives for users to stay with the same company.
Also, I wish there was a doc or something listing the devs/themes/testers/etc. of the inc and where they are now in terms of dev/themes/etc, which phones they have moved on to....sometimes it would make switching a bit easier.
PS --- I love the droid incredible.
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Exactly the same way I feel about the GN. The screen is too big, I wish it was like 4.3". That's my limiting point. 4.0" would be ideal, and add that with 720p resolution, that would be a dream come true. You have a high PPI, not to mention, smaller screen = lower battery consumption (compared to a bigger screen). I'm due for an upgrade next week, and I'm leaning towards the Rezound. I just wish that phone was thinner!
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Exactly the same way I feel about the GN. The screen is too big, I wish it was like 4.3". That's my limiting point. 4.0" would be ideal, and add that with 720p resolution, that would be a dream come true. You have a high PPI, not to mention, smaller screen = lower battery consumption (compared to a bigger screen). I'm due for an upgrade next week, and I'm leaning towards the Rezound. I just wish that phone was thinner!
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The GN is really only a 4.3" viewable area. Its just that they have on screen buttons that take up that extra .35" but yeah it goes seem huge. Rezound feels nice, so does the Razr. MAXX. And the battery on that thing is 3300mah!!!!!! Holy Cow!
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I miss the incredible community. I upgraded to the rezound, and though there are many familiar faces from here, it is not the same. Newtoroot, Nils,and Bored are all there with new Roms, but some of the other members are alot more rude, and hostile than here. I was just cruising through memory lane. This post got my attention, and just wanted to say you are right on the money. This forum is a great place, and I wish we could all upgrade to the same phone at the same time. Peace.....
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I miss the incredible community. I upgraded to the rezound, and though there are many familiar faces from here, it is not the same. Newtoroot, Nils,and Bored are all there with new Roms, but some of the other members are alot more rude, and hostile than here. I was just cruising through memory lane. This post got my attention, and just wanted to say you are right on the money. This forum is a great place, and I wish we could all upgrade to the same phone at the same time. Peace.....
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I will be heading over there in 6 months :')
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I was able to pick up my dream phone (Weird how much we value these things now, isn't it?) August of last year after 4 months of research and another 4 of hunting one down. I found mine minty fresh used amOLED for $150 outright and never looked back.
1900mAh battery in stock back casing, Seidio Active Case, and Steinheil Ultra Clear screen protector.
So what does that give me? A small, quick phone with battery life up to 3 days, internet, maps (my favorite), and friends just a click away. There isn't a device made today that can touch us, which is why our Devs have gone so far.
Thank you everyone, now let's make it to the next course of dessert, shall we?
If it weren't for the Incredible, I wouldn't be set on an AMOLED screen for my next device. It is astounding how amazing it still looks even next to some of the latest devices!
I don't care what anyone says, I'm hoping to dive into a Nokia Windows phone next. Specifically, if some of the kinks are worked out and a couple more functions are added by the time June comes around, you better believe I'll be hitting tiles and text and shooting with a Carl Zeiss lens! UberMusic on my Dinc is just making the desire even more intense.
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If it weren't for the Incredible, I wouldn't be set on an AMOLED screen for my next device. It is astounding how amazing it still looks even next to some of the latest devices!
I don't care what anyone says, I'm hoping to dive into a Nokia Windows phone next. Specifically, if some of the kinks are worked out and a couple more functions are added by the time June comes around, you better believe I'll be hitting tiles and text and shooting with a Carl Zeiss lens! UberMusic on my Dinc is just making the desire even more intense.
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WP7 does look fairly cool and the features aren't much different from Android. You wouldn't lose much in regards to functions which is great. I have UberMusic as well and love the WP7 theme for it.
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i think im going to keep this phone till it dies. its the perfect size. i get great battery life and will all the development that has gone into it. It might not be supported but the great devs out there but it still lives on.
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^ This. I've had my upgrade available for a while. The newer phones generally get worse battery life vs dINC with mods- and I'm also not a big fan of the super large screens. I easily lasted the day with stock, but I put on the 2150 just to make sure I never had to worry, so while my buddies with the samsung galaxy nexus and moto razr go to plug theirs in at work I'm not even worried.
There's huge amounts of development here, people are awesome (unlike some forums I've visited ), and there's nothing on my phone that I feel needs an upgrade. 3G speeds can stream HD youtube, web surf and stream internet radio flawless so I'm all set until this baby dies or there's some god-like phone that comes out.
This has been a great community, I like many others have moved on to other phones. It is still a great back up phone so it is nice to pop back in here to keep up to date on new mod and roms.