The true end of the G1 and MT3G???? - G1 General

Since at&t is buying out T-Mobile, just Google it I'm not posting links, is this the true end of our phones because at&t said all 3G phones will need to be upgraded to support their towers and speed they will provide. In addition what are everyone's thoughts on the matter?? It seems like we'll all min the USA have to buy new phones BC they probably wont do the upgrade for free xD
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You don't have to change anything unless ATT drops 2G.

I don't think it will be the end of our phones the 3G upgrades may come over the air or we may have to go old school & actually have to get firmware upgrades in the shop. I don't really think T-Mobile is much slower than At&t, after all, T-Mobile pushed the GSM network in the US, which made everyone else play catch up, since GSM was already in the EU for several years prior. Anyway, as long as we have XDA & the great people giving us Froyo & Gingerbread for our G1/Dreams & MT3G(which we were never meant to have in the 1st place), we will never be too far behind...I hope.
Just my 2 cents...
AT&T motto: If you can't beat `em, buy `em!

Its not necessarily a software issue because At&t said that themselves that all 3G phones will eventually have to be replaced to handle the new network.. AKA moving everyone to 4G and more expensive plans lol..
If they're going to pay for the upgrades themselves im all fine and for it bring on the new phones for development, and they keep our plans i will be extremely happy!
But if we have to get new phones and new contracts a lot of people will probably drop them. I know i cant get the deal i have now ANY where else for as keep.. Unlimited data, texts and 750 shared mins bt two phones for 100 bucks a month. not bad in my opinion.

3g phones are supposed to fail. Get a 4g phone. I heard T-Mobile customers will get iPhones somewhere but wouldn't count on that coming to pass. I'll get the pyramid if it hits T-Mobile in may like reported by T-Mobile news. Just ride the train and see what happens. If u get robbed bail out. My 2¢ anyway
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3g phones are supposed to fail. Get a 4g phone. I heard T-Mobile customers will get iPhones somewhere but wouldn't count on that coming to pass. I'll get the pyramid if it hits T-Mobile in may like reported by T-Mobile news. Just ride the train and see what happens. If u get robbed bail out. My 2¢ anyway
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Agreed, 100%. If the ride is still good, stay on it. If get start getting bad, jump ship.

Read unofficial t-mo news. Front page. Great info and perspective there. U might be able to get a new phone now and run the contract out before it affects u. I'm getting the HTC pyramid and riding this out regardless
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jr10000 said:
Unlimited data, texts and 750 shared mins bt two phones for 100 bucks a month. not bad in my opinion.
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I wet into a AT&T store today and there data line for "unlimited" is $45 a month with out tethering it was around $65-$70 with tethering (guys at the store were as helpfull as a bricked phone and didnt tell me much), (i currently pay $40 with tethering) ontop of your standared plans... to get a plan like yours (also mine) would cost us around $150 or more, im just hopin that we will be able to keep our plans how we have them due to the "grandfathering" law, not sure if it is covered from a buy out though...
Something for us all to look into i guess and see what we come up with

I got a feeling that the govt isn't going to allow it. There seems to be a lot of media attention lately as to how it will hurt consumers. Mergers like this are not necessarily a done deal.

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I got a feeling that the govt isn't going to allow it. There seems to be a lot of media attention lately as to how it will hurt consumers. Mergers like this are not necessarily a done deal.
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It is when companies own the Supreme Court.

So I am about to get booted off of my parents plan (college kid) come may. Would it be a smart option to buy a tmobile plan right now hoping that their prices wont increase with the potential merger? I have heard their plans are cheaper..
I am using an unlocked g1 on at&t right now- and I havent had much problem with at&t- I think all cell phones companies are low grade scammers... I do not use any data, just wifi, and probably text 500/month, talk 500/month..
thought?

I talked to a few tmobile people and they all say that the plan you currently have will remain the same price IF the merge happens

stick wit tmobile. tmobile will still carry out their prices. the two companies merged. which is great cuz HTC and other phone companies wont have to make exclusive phones for Tmobile etc. it will be available to both companies. so we get benefit of the new phones.

If noticed on alot of 3g and 4g phones are already set up for at&t aswell as t-mobile so im really not seeing a issue with the buy out except maybe a new sim card.
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f1vel66a said:
If noticed on alot of 3g and 4g phones are already set up for at&t aswell as t-mobile so im really not seeing a issue with the buy out except maybe a new sim card.
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Well actually I started with cingular back like 6 years ago before they were bought by at&t.. And i am still using the same cingular SIM card =) I love it, probably one of the few cingular sim cards left.. so perhaps tmobile peps will keep their tmobile sim cards when the merger is offic.

From what they're saying when the towers get swapped it will be lte service and the current 3g 4g phones won't be compatible. I guess we'll see. All speculation at this point
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From what they're saying when the towers get swapped it will be lte service and the current 3g 4g phones won't be compatible. I guess we'll see. All speculation at this point
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Welk consider this..
Att phones currentlt work in tmobile and tmobile works on att so with that said if att changes anything they will cause priblems on there own network and phones. I dont for see any problems as ive already said before look in youre APN's you can already choose att or tmobile as a carrier atleast on all my phones

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Well actually I started with cingular back like 6 years ago before they were bought by at&t.. And i am still using the same cingular SIM card =) I love it, probably one of the few cingular sim cards left.. so perhaps tmobile peps will keep their tmobile sim cards when the merger is offic.
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Tmobile sim cards suck I will move to a att one myself. I never had a problem with them but tmobile ive gone through three in less then a year.

at and t owns us and i hate it

With the merger no one needs to upgrade phones. If ppl read tmo's news, at&t pretty much just wants tmo's 4g capable towers and servers. If the merger Goes threw at&t will pretty much be selling world phones (phones that's will support tmos 17 & 21 hundred 3/4g bands and att bands).. all in all they just want the real 4g capable towers tmo has ..
PS ... my 2cents... the merger ain't good for no one.. monopoly ain't good! (Damn bush for reallowing monopolyzation)
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[POLL] Where will you be going when AT&T Acquires T-Mobile ?

Which carrier will you be going to when this god forsaken act happens ?
I love T-Mobile for the phones , plans , service , and coverage . Tis a sad
day for phone junkys . I will be going to Verizon when this happens . Its
gonna suck not being able to use my G2 anymore , Best phone ive ever
had hands down
Gonna go to SimpleMobile assuming that they don't get effected by the merger. We'll see when that happens. I'm tired of contracts and carrier bull****. I'll always bring my own phones.
I simply won't pay the ridiculous rates Verizon and AT&T charge. I can't stand helping companies that do that to people.
I pay $75 a month on T-Mo (w/ no contract, big plus) including handset protection and taxes, I'd be at about $110+ on Verizon or AT&T. And I'd be in a contract. F that.
At&t obviously
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Sprint. I'll probably switch when the evo 3d is released. No reason to wait for my device to become a paperweight, might as well sell now.
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Won't do business with Sprint again and absolutely despise AT&T so I guess that means Verizon.
IF the service ends up sucking (which given that they screwed up Cingular when they bought them), then I will switch to Verizon. We will see how this goes, if it even gets approved anyway, but at this point in time Verizon looks to have the better LTE network anyway.
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Sprint. I'll probably switch when the evo 3d is released. No reason to wait for my device to become a paperweight, might as well sell now.
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Although the Evo 3D is tempting, I need a physical keyboard. Whoever has a 3D screen, multicore processor and a physical keyboard gets my business.
I don't think after the merger "if" approved our phone will be paper weights I'm not seeing the problem if so I'm sure ugrades and so on will be offered. Most of us on XDA don't even keep our phones for a year so by the time this all happens will be on to the next best dual core device out there. I think with the pressure on the other carriers if this deal is approved we will probably see some good offerings from other companies to solicit our business. I'm sure verizon or sprint would love some tmo customers. Sad to see tmobile go but its the nature of the beast with this economy today were seeing allot of our favorite companies disappear. I've been a tmobile customer for 6+ years and I don't ever recall them being out of the #4 spot. This was bound to happen and I'm almost glad its with at&t then the rumored sprint. I have 5 tmobile phone lines on family plan all I can do is wait and see and make the best choice when its done for my money. I'm actually looking forward to better coverage and more phone choices.
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agreed.
however, i want to see how long i can stay on my even more+ plan with att before making a decision. if i can stay grandfathered in and keep the reduced rate with unlocked phones, maybe i will stay.
thats a big maybe though.
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agreed.
however, i want to see how long i can stay on my even more+ plan with att before making a decision. if i can stay grandfathered in and keep the reduced rate with unlocked phones, maybe i will stay.
thats a big maybe though.
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Same. AT&T's CEO said that they are "looking into" keeping the no-contract plans. Which means that they probably won't lol.
If I can stay on my $59.99 plan with no contract, and the service isn't complete abysmal, I'll stay with AT&T. If not, I guess I'll check my other options. Because I completely despise AT&T (as well as Verizon, boo CDMA) I really don't think I'd stay with them unless they can grandfather me in, which I don't think they'll do because they're not contractually obligated to offer me anything.
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agreed.
however, i want to see how long i can stay on my even more+ plan with att before making a decision. if i can stay grandfathered in and keep the reduced rate with unlocked phones, maybe i will stay.
thats a big maybe though.
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same for me i think... we'll just ride it out for now.
ive also heard about simple mobile, maybe ill check them out.
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same for me i think... we'll just ride it out for now.
ive also heard about simple mobile, maybe ill check them out.
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Simple Mobiles uses TMO's 3G towers. The same towers ATT wants to build their 4G on. Which means no more 3G towers.
Who says simple mobile won't be paying att for the towers?
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sprint
if the deal goes through,and the customer service starts going to **** like at&t is known for and pricing starts rising im outta here,will def look into sprint cuz there prices are good as well as there coverage,and they got some pretty nice phones right now(evo 4g,epic 4g,evo shift) so im guessing in a year they will have better faster phones all with FFC and dual-cores....hopefully
I would love to leave right now because I'm honestly just pissed off at T-Mobile as a company (I know that DT did it, but it's a branch of them) and I don't want to give them anymore business, but, I don't have the luxury of paying $1000 to pay the ETF fees on the account.
I'll be pretty screwed if AT&T doesn't nullify contracts and let people leave.
Most likely Sprint. They're currently the closest to T-Mobile in pricing and unlimited data. Plus it looks like Sprint and Google are gonna be working more closely with the full integration of Google Voice and Google building their new gigabit broadband network in Sprint's backyard.
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I'm going to have to go with Sprint as well. Even though their coverage where I am at isn't the greatest, they're the only other company that can get close to the rate plans that Tmobile offers.
Also: bugger paying $30/mo for a a data plan that I LITERALLY MUST PURCHASE TO ACTIVATE THE DEVICE even though Verizon has no 3g or 4g coverage in my area. God forbid I actually utilize a smartphone as a cellphone by turning off my data connection whenever possible. I already do this on Tmobile as they have zero 3g coverage in my zone and will likely continue doing it into the future.
Telecoms in the US are holding the consumer over a burning cauldron of oil and splitting them in half in the name of "good customer service." This unmitigated greed will not be stopped by those who are charged with protecting the populace from the foibles of big business.
Edit 2: Okay so I've done comparative pricing between my current Tmobile plan and a rough equivalent on ATT. All in all I would be paying an additional $6 dollars before tax and fees for 50 less minutes and no insurance on my device. The fact that unlimited texts cost $20/month is absolutely absurd as lets face it, that calculates out to something like just over a grand per MB of data transferred
In short: Go set your head on fire ATT. I will remove myself from the 21st century and forgo the conveniences of smartphones if it means giving you any of my money. I'll live in a box under a bridge enjoying sprint band coverage on virgin mobile for $25/month with unlimited text data and 300 talk minutes.
Simplemobile maybe a good alternative but I'm holding out for the LG phone which is supposedly going to work with at&t 3g signal as well T mobiles. Also my main concern is how Android friendly at&t will be since they are still committed primary to the iphone?
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i intend to find out if the gov't approves, then i am going to upgrade all 3 phones on my plan, and lock in my plan for 3+ years, even if ATT acquires Tmo, they will have to honor all the existing contracts for at least a few years, that we we can see the prices level out with only 3 "large" carriers...I would have to pay 75+ more dollars for a comparable plan to my tmo plan on ATT, and thats just nuts, to step down on the customer support and network quality is just crazy, but in a way since all us tmo people have good service, i see that the added towers to ATT's network will improve it for everyone, and thats why ATT wants Tmo, a 'cheap' way to 4g, not to mention the spectrum space.
Sprint for sure my parents just switched from ATT after 7 years to sprint cause I pushed them to do it, and I'm waiting for the evo 3d to come out so I can make my move.
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Leaving T-Mo???

Well... since my favorite cell provider (T-Mobile) will be bought out by AT&T (junk), I will be switching to Sprint in July. I will be getting the HTC EVO 4G 3D.
Anyone else making the switch?
marcos.lennis said:
Well... since my favorite cell provider (T-Mobile) will be bought out by AT&T (junk), I will be switching to Sprint in July. I will be getting the HTC EVO 4G 3D.
Anyone else making the switch?
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ATT did not buy T-Mobile. They have agreed to buy them, the DOJ and the FCC still have to approve the transaction. Which will be atleast a year down the road. But hey i guess if you're going to jump on the Sprint band wagon you might as well want to make the most of it.
By the way good luck talking to their CS reps. They know as much English as my 16mth old daughter.
We already did
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I will.
I just came from Sprint about 2 months ago. I left because data here had become so slow, i am talking 47 kbps slow. But they are flipping the switch all over Wisconsin on 4G, and I miss my EvO 4G so much, I have to go back (and get the EvO 3D).
Day its released, day I have a mt4g for sale..
Sprint reps are ok. Don't know why everyone has a issue...
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Anyone else making the switch?
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Sprint? Sprint is not a GSM provider. Many (if not most) people use T-Mobile and AT&T specifically because these are GSM providers. If T-Mobile gets acquired, AT&T will remain the only option.
I can't imagine someone knowingly switching from GSM to CDMA.
personally just left sprint. always had dropped calls, bad signal, and in order for them to fix my phone i would be charged an extra 10 a month for data that i was already paying for. if anything do the jump to verizon, only one worth going to.
I live in Miami so any cell pgone provider would be ok. They all have good service here.
I used to have AT&T a few years back and also verizon. AT&T ripped me off with charges. Verizon was great but a bit pricey. I have not been in Sprint yet tho. My brother is with them and he is very happy.
Lets see what happens in July and I decide to switch.
The EVO 3D looks really nice amd the specs are awesome. I am already missing my MT4G. The best phone I've had so far.
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Sprint? Sprint is not a GSM provider. Many (if not most) people use T-Mobile and AT&T specifically because these are GSM providers. If T-Mobile gets acquired, AT&T will remain the only option.
I can't imagine someone knowingly switching from GSM to CDMA.
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I couldn't have said it better my friend.
I would switch from Tmobiles GSM to Verizons CDMA if they werent so expensive. They have WAY better coverage in my area. They also seem to have better coverage in the more "boonies" type areas near here.
Most people couldn't give a damn about GSM or CDMA. Hell, you try to explain to them why they can't use a CDMA phone on a GSM network and they look at you like you have two heads. That being said, there's no way in hell I'll allow myself to use AT&T after the bull**** I just went through as an employee and a customer. Verizon is out because of the changes they just implemented re: warranty swaps. For those who haven't heard, if you have a warranty issue with your phone, Verizon plans to charge you $150 to replace it, if you have the slightest of cosmetic blemishes on your device. Volume buttons down work but you have a worn spot on your battery cover from the phone being in your pocket? $150. Screw that.
So yes, Sprint's data is slower, but in my area T-Mobile has a ton of dropped calls, bad call quality, and when I go into a large building (My office, a target, Costco, etc) I get no signal whatsoever. I'm going to try to hold off for the decision on the merger, but I might jump ship when the EVO 3D comes out.
Edit: Also, $50 for unlimited data, text, any cell call, and 500 minutes is a LOT better than the $70 I'm paying for 1000 minutes on the EM+ plan. Not complaining about T-Mo's pricing, just saying it's an option.
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Sprint? Sprint is not a GSM provider. Many (if not most) people use T-Mobile and AT&T specifically because these are GSM providers. If T-Mobile gets acquired, AT&T will remain the only option.
I can't imagine someone knowingly switching from GSM to CDMA.
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I would do it.
If my options are Verizon, AT&T, and Sprint...Sprint it is. CDMA or not, unlimited data plans should be unlimited. AT&T already has tiers, and Verizon is expected to adopt a similar system this summer. Would be nice if we t-mobile customers were grandfathered in, but doubt that will happen under AT&T. Will have to wait and see.
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I am well aware of the differences beween GSM and CDMA. I know how the work and specs of it. But since I am not planning to move from the US, not I travel outside of it, it doesnt matter.
Right now, AT&T has the most expensive plans and they have a cap on data.
Sprint is the only one with a better pricing and unlimited cell and data coverage ( though I know is a little slower than Verizon's).
I recently read an article stating that tmobile and sprint offer faster 3g for smarphones vs dumbphone data, so it seems like sprint and tmobile may be priortizing there customer needs.. plus I heard a rumor that google may purchase sprint someday.. how awesome would that be.. I like gsm cause its world wide but so is wifi and my phone has that so nbd.. unlimited and still cheaper then the comp. If I'm browsing on my phone ill be using wifi anyhow.. as far as 4g goes pretty sure sprint is switching to lte soon and a law just passed forcing verizon and att to allow lte data roaming to smaller competitors.
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As far as traveling with GSM phones no big deal I buy a cheap phone that make sure works there and buy their sim card and good to go and for curtsey I leave the phone to some of the relatives lol.
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I don't understand why people don't realize that nothing has happened yet and probably won't still for some time, there's no urgency to switch. I want to wait and try to get a rockin' phone in a little while when the buyout gets closer to reality. I spoke with a T-Mobile representative about it the other day and he said that most likely T-Mobile would still go by the T-Mobile name but would operate under AT&T. The only real thing that would happen is we would switch to AT&T frequencies cause they'd buy all our towers. Seems like it could only lead to better coverage, don't you think? Sprint seems too hit-or-miss for me anyway...
AT&T can't ruin T-Mobile overnight
From what I've read AT&T won't be able to repurpose any of T-Mobile's existing network for at least two years after the sale is finalized. They have also committed to honoring the contracts of existing T-Mobile customers. If the sale goes through, it should have no meaningful on your service at least through the length of any contract with T-Mo. I'm on prepaid, though, so who knows what will happen to my service.
Also, please wait and upgrade to the HTC Sensation before you brashly decide to cancel your contract and switch carriers so that I can buy it from one of you (preferably for pennies on the dollar, buyers market).
The merger wont happen rightaway its gonna be at least 2-3 yrs before we see changes,whats so hard to understand that either way is a win win for us Tmo customers,if the merger passes we have access to all at&t cell towers & if it dnt pass we still gonna have access to all those at&t cell towers... We will get grandfathered in cause they not gonna cut the customers short & if that dnt happened we still good at&t will change their plans & pricing,with all these new customers goin in to at&t,they not gonna stay ****ty forever... Im sure as hell not goin to slow ass verizon nor sprint...
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The merger wont happen rightaway its gonna be at least 2-3 yrs before we see changes,whats so hard to understand that either way is a win win for us Tmo customers,if the merger passes we have access to all at&t cell towers & if it dnt pass we still gonna have access to all those at&t cell towers... We will get grandfathered in cause they not gonna cut the customers short & if that dnt happened we still good at&t will change their plans & pricing,with all these new customers goin in to at&t,they not gonna stay ****ty forever... Im sure as hell not goin to slow ass verizon nor sprint...
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Yeah except our phones aren't compatible with AT&T 3g. We can already use their edge towers.
I personally believe you guys are jumping the gun. The deal hasn't gone through yet...hope it doesn't though.
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Should I switch from tmobile to att for atrix?

Hi I currently have the new g2x from tmobile and will probably be returning it today.(too many issues). The only other phone I want is the atrix so I'm thinking of canceling my tmo service and buying the atrix. Do you guys think it is worth it. I'll be paying about $10 more a month. How does every one like the atrix and att. Or maybe a comparison between att and tmo if someone has had both.
Thank you.
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Also I had read that the boot loader is unlocked now us this true and if so how are the custom roms and will we be seeing some oc kernels chiming out?
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I'm with Tmobile now and using the Atrix unlocked. Try to go down that route if you have the resources to buy it outright. Otherwise, you cannot go wrong with the Atrix. The upcoming gingerbread update in the summer is only going to make it better. They've already ironed out most of the issues of early adopters with the new 4.1.83 update. The full power of this phone is yet to be unleashed.
i have an atrix on tmobile and i dont think its worth it honestly the phone has a lot of issues this is my second one from motorola and this one doesnt freeze as much but there is def a manufacturing defect there is a small section of my screen that doesnt work on either phone i had and im just living with it now becuz i dont want to send it in again and wait two weeks because it has been out getting fixed longer than i have had it I was thinking of trading mine for a g2x
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Also I had read that the boot loader is unlocked now us this true and if so how are the custom roms and will we be seeing some oc kernels chiming out?
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Bootloader is still locked. You can root and "mod" it, but currently the bootloader is still locked down...
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Also T-Mo has the better network. I'm sure you get better D/L speeds over there...
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Thanks for the replies that was fast. Tmobile kinda sucks where I'm at. I work on an island where I get pretty spotty service and I live 200 feet from a cell tower where I get great reception but by supposed 4g speeds are 800k max which its pretty lame.
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Considering this is Motorola, no. Wait for the Galaxy S2.
I don't really like samsung phones. And I actually like motoblur. I also really likethe idea of the 2 docks. I saw that people have ubuntu running on these phones does that work with the docks? I also dint have the cash to buy it out right.
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i have an atrix on tmobile and i dont think its worth it honestly the phone has a lot of issues this is my second one from motorola and this one doesnt freeze as much but there is def a manufacturing defect there is a small section of my screen that doesnt work on either phone i had and im just living with it now becuz i dont want to send it in again and wait two weeks because it has been out getting fixed longer than i have had it I was thinking of trading mine for a g2x
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What a run on sentence, not a single period in that whole statement.
But on topic,
If you can return the phone and terminate service with no cost, then do it. But if you are to far into your contract and you are facing a termination fee, I would try to find a Atrix on craigslist or a trade and sell cell phone store. Yes the bootloader is locked, but there is people hard at work trying to find a solution. Yes you could wait for the Samsung Galaxy S2, but there is no guarantee it will be a better phone.
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I'm with Tmobile now and using the Atrix unlocked.
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Isn't the radio hardware in the Atrix set up for AT&T frequencies, thus limiting data connection to 2G (Edge) speeds when used on T-Mobile?
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Isn't the radio hardware in the Atrix set up for AT&T frequencies, thus limiting data connection to 2G (Edge) speeds when used on T-Mobile?
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I was also wondering this. And I will have to pay an early cancellation fee but with the g2x I got a partial upgrade and ended up paying $400 with a $50 rebate. it will cost me $200 to cancel service and,$99 for the atrix through radioshack.But the g2x is not great too many bugs and tons of backlight bleed not worth the $350 I payed with a contract extension.
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OP, I'd say give it a try. Do you know of anyone who has AT&T where you live/work? I know every carrier is different in every location, so it may be worth it to give AT&T a try. I personally love the Atrix and have been with AT&T since they were Cingular. I know for my fiance, when she had T-Mobile, speeds were good right next to a tower, but it seemed like every time we traveled, she was roaming on AT&T Edge. This was true for where her parents live and where my parents live, too. At those locations, I was on AT&T 3G and speeds were great. So for us, AT&T has good 3G in more places than T-Mobile. But, everyone's mileage may vary. What is good for one person with regards to phone/network may not be good for the next person.
EDIT: oh, and you have a trial period with AT&T. If you aren't satisfied, return the Atrix and AT&T service and stick with what works for you.
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OP, I'd say give it a try. Do you know of anyone who has AT&T where you live/work? I know every carrier is different in every location, so it may be worth it to give AT&T a try. I personally love the Atrix and have been with AT&T since they were Cingular. I know for my fiance, when she had T-Mobile, speeds were good right next to a tower, but it seemed like every time we traveled, she was roaming on AT&T Edge. This was true for where her parents live and where my parents live, too. At those locations, I was on AT&T 3G and speeds were great. So for us, AT&T has good 3G in more places than T-Mobile. But, everyone's mileage may vary. What is good for one person with regards to phone/network may not be good for the next person.
EDIT: oh, and you have a trial period with AT&T. If you aren't satisfied, return the Atrix and AT&T service and stick with what works for you.
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I do not know anyone with att but I think I'm gong to return this phone tonight and pick up an atrix and try out att. Hoping its better than tmobile here.
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i have no complaints about att, go for it. i would definitely make sure your own house is not an att dead zone though. dont forget to apply employer discounts for your monthly bill.
tmobile on the other hand, lots of problems.
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i have no complaints about att, go for it. i would definitely make sure your own house is not an att dead zone though. dont forget to apply employer discounts for your monthly bill.
tmobile on the other hand, lots of problems.
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I literally live 200 ft from a tower that seems to have every carrier up there. Everyone that comes to my house has full service. And e what kind of employer discounts are you taking about? I an self employed.
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I left Tmo on 04/10/11 for ATT. So far, so good. Love the Atrix since .83. Atrix is a suitable phone if you want android. iPhone is fine too. I'm still within the 30 grace period and I'm deciding to go with ATT for my mobile carrier.
My mom loves the the free mobile to mobile (no minutes used regardless of carrier).
I'm converting and I have no qualms. Haven't had any dropped calls (yet). I'd say go for ATT.
keep your g2x stay with tmo. its basically the same phone just a lg body instead of motorola. my buddy has the g2x. plus by next year all the networks tmo and att have will be shared and there will be new phones out. get your handset replaced if your having issues it may be hardware lemon. the atrix has its issues too no phone is without issues. youd just be trading one tegra based device for another and getting a slower network that costs more
The problem is the screen bleed on the g2x I've looked at several devices and they all have it. And our makes the screen look like crap. plus I've been missing way too many calls at work because bad reception. And I really want a tegra 2 over the other dual core processors.
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sprint or T-mobile..?

so i was thinking.. my evo is almost ready for an upgrade, but now i have the choice to switch networks.. this is my only phone with sprint, i choose sprint, because it was my first cell phone i paid for on my own, but i just dont know if i should switch to T-mobile, when they have unlimited everything for 50$.. compared to sprints 80.. yea i know T-mobile caps(well slows down at 2Gigs i believe) your data but i dont really use phones net works i use mainly wifi and from what ive seen t-mobile gets more 4g in my area.. i just dont know, what is your guys opinion, with phones, network, cost, data, overall satisfaction
Sprint
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If you're a baller go with Verizon. If not go with TMobile
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Sprint has true unlimited data with everyone uses to tether with and abuse causing sprints network to be slow.
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Hey man,
I say stick with Sprint, i mean yes it is bad, but if you go T-mobile it gets much worse.
Lol negative.
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jrollercoasters said:
so i was thinking.. my evo is almost ready for an upgrade, but now i have the choice to switch networks.. this is my only phone with sprint, i choose sprint, because it was my first cell phone i paid for on my own, but i just dont know if i should switch to T-mobile, when they have unlimited everything for 50$.. compared to sprints 80.. yea i know T-mobile caps(well slows down at 2Gigs i believe) your data but i dont really use phones net works i use mainly wifi and from what ive seen t-mobile gets more 4g in my area.. i just dont know, what is your guys opinion, with phones, network, cost, data, overall satisfaction
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I actually disagree with everyone. If you have great coverage and 4g then go with T-Mobile. You'll get overall cheaper prices. T-Mobile has unlimited but they lower your speed down once you hit 2 gigs. I'm guessing that devs for T-Mobile phones have developed a way around it anyway. The only thing you probly won't like is customer service. Its not horrible but sprint is deff. Better.
And also you should wait for the new HTC one phones to come
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I have had sprint and t-mobile and i liked t-mobile better, even doe they do the same as sprint when it comes to the bill but, they have good service. even doe I'm loving Metro right now, I'm free.
I came from t-mobile to sprint. both were/are great carriers. i live in a town where 4g is nonexistent on the sprint network and t-mobile has it. im sticking with sprint though. great phones, decent experiences with cust. service, solid data, and the simply everything plan means what it says.
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I have had sprint and t-mobile and i liked t-mobile better, even doe they do the same as sprint when it comes to the bill but, they have good service. even doe I'm loving Metro right now, I'm free.
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Same here when I was on t-mobile I loved it as well. The only reason why I even switched carriers was because I wanted the Evo 4G.. But honestly if I could go back in time I would have stayed with T-Mobile I miss being able to try out different phones just by popping in my sim card haha
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i'll say sprint i like there service and phones lol i was thinking bout going to t-mobile but i dont like what they have to offer with there phones sprint is better
Data speed wise TMobile is faster
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If you don't use your data all that much, have good service, its cheaper, and if you can get a phone that you like on it, then go with T-Mobile.
I don't understand why everyone hates sprints data speeds. It takes a few seconds to bring up a web page, and only a few minutes max to download a big application or document. I'm perfectly happy with the speeds.
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Sprint for sure dude. Don't upgrade until the LTE phones start rolling out, though. Once LTE starts rolling out, Sprint will be one of the best companies . T-Mobile is merging with at&t anyways and at&t sucks.
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Sprint for sure dude. Don't upgrade until the LTE phones start rolling out, though. Once LTE starts rolling out, Sprint will be one of the best companies . T-Mobile is merging with at&t anyways and at&t sucks.
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I switched from at&t ... I just didn't like it cause of coast
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At least around here, T-mobile service is crap. You get more then 2-3 miles outside of a city, and you be lucky to make a phone call let alone get any data connection.
jrollercoasters said:
so i was thinking.. my evo is almost ready for an upgrade, but now i have the choice to switch networks.. this is my only phone with sprint, i choose sprint, because it was my first cell phone i paid for on my own, but i just dont know if i should switch to T-mobile, when they have unlimited everything for 50$.. compared to sprints 80.. yea i know T-mobile caps(well slows down at 2Gigs i believe) your data but i dont really use phones net works i use mainly wifi and from what ive seen t-mobile gets more 4g in my area.. i just dont know, what is your guys opinion, with phones, network, cost, data, overall satisfaction
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I find that you get what you pay for. I did have T-Mobile a couple years ago and jumped ship when I heard that AT&T planned on buying them out. The customer service if far better with Sprint but service is a little more expensive. T-Mobile's tech department is horrible compared to Sprint. The tech staff at the Sprint Stores are awesome. The don't care if your device has root ( most of their personal devices are), they will still assist you if you need the help.
Overall I would go with Sprint if you want good coverage and tech support. If all you care about is the price then T-Mobile is the way to go.
GSM>CDMA dont need to call tmobile to check ESN numbers
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Tmobile speeds in my city
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jrollercoasters said:
so i was thinking.. my evo is almost ready for an upgrade, but now i have the choice to switch networks.. this is my only phone with sprint, i choose sprint, because it was my first cell phone i paid for on my own, but i just dont know if i should switch to T-mobile, when they have unlimited everything for 50$.. compared to sprints 80.. yea i know T-mobile caps(well slows down at 2Gigs i believe) your data but i dont really use phones net works i use mainly wifi and from what ive seen t-mobile gets more 4g in my area.. i just dont know, what is your guys opinion, with phones, network, cost, data, overall satisfaction
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Depends on where ur located....for me and everyone in this area 4g has been up working since day one so sprint was the best option. I've been watching the price wars among the companies and everyones trying to match sprint but ones really close....I'd wait til at least June for the status of the new LTE network before I'd decide......remember you'll be stuck with what cha choice....LOL....
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Verizon doing away with unlimited data, forcing tiered data

Just read that this summer all current Verizon users who are grandfathered into unlimited 3G will be forced to switch to tiered shared data plans. Exact words were "Verizon will have no problem making money" off the plans. I have been grandfathered to unlimited data. And not that I use a lot what I don't like is that the price of data is about to get considerably more expensive and I for one am already extremely unhappy with vz and this just further makes Mr want to tell Verizon to shove it up their a$$ when my contract ends next January. Thoughts anyone?
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/05/1...going-away-all-users-pushed-onto-shared-data/
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Wow, guess I will be sticking with my Xperia Play for quite some time. My fiance has a Razr, so our 4G unlimited needs are covered. If Verizon is doing crap like this then they need to understand they are not a "telephony" service anymore. All I need is an IP address assigned to me and let me pay $5-$10 per GB I use per line.
jgregoryj1 said:
Just read that this summer all current Verizon users who are grandfathered into unlimited 3G will be forced to switch to tiered shared data plans. Exact words were "Verizon will have no problem making money" off the plans. I have been grandfathered to unlimited data. And not that I use a lot what I don't like is that the price of data is about to get considerably more expensive and I for one am already extremely unhappy with vz and this just further makes Mr want to tell Verizon to shove it up their a$$ when my contract ends next January. Thoughts anyone?
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/05/1...going-away-all-users-pushed-onto-shared-data/
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So far it claims that this wont effect 3g users until they upgrade to a 4g phone, I have an upgrade but I will not be using it EVER unless an xplay2 comes out ! Which could be never. But I had a feeling this would happen eventually. I seriously think the part about "making money off of data plans" is crap. They claim they want to push people into using more data, thats kinda crazy the actually claim this ya know. Like Gee thanks Verizon their basically saying " we cant wait to bank people on data plans"
I read about this.
They are doing away with unlimited, but they are introducing "shared data". I personally use about 200mb a month. So if they do 2GB for $30 SHARED (any phone and any tablet) then I'll be very happy.
I would prefer to use my smartphones without a data plan and only voice and wifi if I could do that.
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So if we just buy on ebay used phones and swap sim cards we shouldn't be affected? They said you will be forced to tier "upon upgrading". The best thing to do is wait a few weeks before this goes into effect and but the best 4g phone they have and that will get you two more years of unlimited lte
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I think that Verizon is going to find out that they could have made more money if they had kept unlimited data and raised the price of data by a few dollars. As of right now, they are forcing many users to lower their data plan and use less data because it is all they can afford. This means that they won't get much more money than before and the customer will get less data overall. Is that what they really want? If they want people to move over to tiered then they need to start updating their phones on time or even at all, and go out and get the best phones on their network. That way people will want to upgrade because the new phone is irresistible.
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This move has me thinking when some sort of Xperia Play 2 maybe comes out I will just buy an unlocked one and go on AT&T who is getting way better, as long as they support unlocked phones on what will be 4GLTE by then. Hopefully I can get an unsubsidized plan, for cheaper, and I can tell Big Red to suck a fattie, on principal.
There's one word to explain my emotions right now about this: f*ck. I use over 2GB a month with PDANet and Barnacle Tether. I need mah dataaaaaa!!!!
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The only reason I'm still with verizon instead of, say, AT&T is because I've got unlimited data. I use AT&T uVerse for home internet, so I can get a wireless deal. If I'm going to be forced to pay for tiered data, then I'm going to go to the cheapest place that has it for the most data. Not sure if its AT&T or not, but I'm going to start looking.
Rogue Leader said:
This move has me thinking when some sort of Xperia Play 2 maybe comes out I will just buy an unlocked one and go on AT&T who is getting way better, as long as they support unlocked phones on what will be 4GLTE by then. Hopefully I can get an unsubsidized plan, for cheaper, and I can tell Big Red to suck a fattie, on principal.
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I have an unlocked r800a 4g that at&t said they would activate if I choose to leave Verizon (which they pushed me on while they had me on the phone )
crono141 said:
The only reason I'm still with verizon instead of, say, AT&T is because I've got unlimited data. I use AT&T uVerse for home internet, so I can get a wireless deal. If I'm going to be forced to pay for tiered data, then I'm going to go to the cheapest place that has it for the most data. Not sure if its AT&T or not, but I'm going to start looking.
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I agree. Its been a thought of mine for awhile now I guess. I love my Play and wouldn't mind a 4g one and At&t really isn't that bad. Verizon isnt "exactly" being a loyal provider ..
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Yeah I was with Cingular, then 2 months later they officially became AT&T, and was with them for 4 years, I had bought an unlocked phone after my contract phone died and stayed on a month to month plan, Then I moved to Utah where all my family is, moved so my kids can be around their cousins, and about 6 months here switched to VZ, bought a droid 2 global (f...u.... Moto) and noticed that my data speeds from AT&T were around 1-1.5mbps, VZ here is horrible. I have never gotten faster then 250kbps. This mixed with their bs pricing and lousy service, both hardware, and firmware related, and now the data tiered..... yup I am going to walk into a VZ store grab a VZ flyer stick it down my pants, wipe, and stick it on the door handle. Sorry for the rant, just have a lot of anger with VZ. I'm paying $30 a month for terrible data, I can barely do GPS sometimes. Rant done
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I have an unlocked r800a 4g that at&t said they would activate if I choose to leave Verizon (which they pushed me on while they had me on the phone )
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Att's "4G" Play isn't true 4G LTE. The next Play I'm sure will be but I've read rumors that ATT and others may not support unlocked phones on their 4G networks (which doesn't make sense at all, but I wouldn't be surprised). Guess we will see. We are 6 months to a year out from a new Play anyway, if it even happens.
216Monster said:
I have an unlocked r800a 4g that at&t said they would activate if I choose to leave Verizon (which they pushed me on while they had me on the phone )
I agree. Its been a thought of mine for awhile now I guess. I love my Play and wouldn't mind a 4g one and At&t really isn't that bad. Verizon isnt "exactly" being a loyal provider ..
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I came across a relatively new in box with all material Xplay AT&T 4G for $189 with free shipping, even though I still have about 9 months to go thinking if snagging that for when the time comes I can just use it on AT&T. Thats the other reason I dont care for VZ, CDMA, cant do voice and data which is retarded (I know its how the CDMA works) Plus with an unlocked AT&T phone when the wife and I go to China to visit family I can use it there on a prepaid sim card in China.
jgregoryj1 said:
Yeah I was with Cingular, then 2 months later they officially became AT&T, and was with them for 4 years, I had bought an unlocked phone after my contract phone died and stayed on a month to month plan, Then I moved to Utah where all my family is, moved so my kids can be around their cousins, and about 6 months here switched to VZ, bought a droid 2 global (f...u.... Moto) and noticed that my data speeds from AT&T were around 1-1.5mbps, VZ here is horrible. I have never gotten faster then 250kbps. This mixed with their bs pricing and lousy service, both hardware, and firmware related, and now the data tiered..... yup I am going to walk into a VZ store grab a VZ flyer stick it down my pants, wipe, and stick it on the door handle. Sorry for the rant, just have a lot of anger with VZ. I'm paying $30 a month for terrible data, I can barely do GPS sometimes. Rant done
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Thats pretty funny though I say you go for it and then be run like hell outa there to nearest att store with the flyer
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Att's "4G" Play isn't true 4G LTE. The next Play I'm sure will be but I've read rumors that ATT and others may not support unlocked phones on their 4G networks (which doesn't make sense at all, but I wouldn't be surprised). Guess we will see. We are 6 months to a year out from a new Play anyway, if it even happens.
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But its still 4g.. certainly can't be slower then vz 3g right?
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I came across a relatively new in box with all material Xplay AT&T 4G for $189 with free shipping, even though I still have about 9 months to go thinking if snagging that for when the time comes I can just use it on AT&T. Thats the other reason I dont care for VZ, CDMA, cant do voice and data which is retarded (I know its how the CDMA works) Plus with an unlocked AT&T phone when the wife and I go to China to visit family I can use it there on a prepaid sim card in China.
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Yea att 4g play has some perks I must say!
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But its still 4g.. certainly can't be slower then vz 3g right?
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Supposedly ATT 3G is faster than Verizon 3G. Their "4G" right now is HSPA+ which is really more like 3.5G so its definitely faster. However the new 4G LTE, its like broadband speed. My Mother has a 4G LTE Droid Razr, its so fast that her data service is indistinguishable from WiFi from our cable connection.
jgregoryj1 said:
I came across a relatively new in box with all material Xplay AT&T 4G for $189 with free shipping, even though I still have about 9 months to go thinking if snagging that for when the time comes I can just use it on AT&T. Thats the other reason I dont care for VZ, CDMA, cant do voice and data which is retarded (I know its how the CDMA works) Plus with an unlocked AT&T phone when the wife and I go to China to visit family I can use it there on a prepaid sim card in China.
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Eh, the only reason that AT&T can do both voice and data at the same time is because of how their signal works. Those phones are always receiving two types of signal, so when you're on the phone, the data works at the same time, so long as you have adequate signal for that function.
Personally, the simultaneous voice and data isn't really a draw for me, as I can't think of when I'd ever need to use it. Besides that, it seems rude, at least to me, to be talking and surfing at the same time.
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Supposedly ATT 3G is faster than Verizon 3G. Their "4G" right now is HSPA+ which is really more like 3.5G so its definitely faster. However the new 4G LTE, its like broadband speed. My Mother has a 4G LTE Droid Razr, its so fast that her data service is indistinguishable from WiFi from our cable connection.
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Oh . Well ty for the info! And my brother has a droid4 and vz 4glte is some quick stuff definitely!
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Verizon is only forcing you to a tiered plan when you get a new 3G or 4G phone. Otherwise, you can keep your unlimited data.
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Verizon is only forcing you to a tiered plan when you get a new 3G or 4G phone. Otherwise, you can keep your unlimited data.
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Until they change that to
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Do we have any idea when this will take effect, or just "sometime this summer"?

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