[Q] Question about launchers. - Droid 2 General

My cousin had a Droid 2 R2D2. I have a Samsung Epic 4g. I was going to show him launcherpro to see if he wanted to use that instead of blur. But he ended up just wanting the blur launcher back. So I went to Settings>applications>manage applications> running, clicked launcherpro, and I couldn't hit the Clear Default button. The only way I could get him back to blur was to uninstall lp. This does the same with adw too. Why is that? When I had adw and lp installed at the same time, I hit the home button and those were the only two options available to set as default. Again, I'm not used to blur, I'm used to touchwiz. I aso tried Home switcher for froyo, to no avail.
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I couldn't tell you why they do that but try Homesmack from the market to set blur as default while another launcher is installed.

Why would anyone prefer the original launcher over adw or lp? Hey to each is his/her own
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detox246 said:
Why would anyone prefer the original launcher over adw or lp? Hey to each is his/her own
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He is 10, and doesnt really understand the faster is better. He desnt want to learn anything new
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10!!!!??? REALLY!? You should just smack him, he really doesn't need a smartphone... or any phone for that matter.
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LOL, no offense to your cousin's parents, but there is no reason on this earth a 10 year old needs a Droid R2D2, or ANY smart phone for that matter. Maybe one of those phones where you can only call preprogrammed numbers and 911 or something....
I'm surprised though. I used to think teaching a 10 year old how to work one of these phones would be easier than when I try to teach my friends and coworkers...
And by the by... I just recently sbf'd back to stock, then rerooted (still stock rom), debloated my phone, made some build.prop tweaks, OC'd to 1.25GHz ulv, and installed launcher pro plus. The phone is running just as smooth and fast as liberty 1.5

orkillakilla said:
LOL, no offense to your cousin's parents, but there is no reason on this earth a 10 year old needs a Droid R2D2, or ANY smart phone for that matter. Maybe one of those phones where you can only call preprogrammed numbers and 911 or something....
I'm surprised though. I used to think teaching a 10 year old how to work one of these phones would be easier than when I try to teach my friends and coworkers...
And by the by... I just recently sbf'd back to stock, then rerooted (still stock rom), debloated my phone, made some build.prop tweaks, OC'd to 1.25GHz ulv, and installed launcher pro plus. The phone is running just as smooth and fast as liberty 1.5
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I totally agree with you. I don't know wtc his parents were thinking, but anyways. Thanks for the answers.
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[DISCUSS] Blur-less ROM Comparisons? [With List/Links]

In the last couple of weeks, we've seen a lot of advancements in ROM releases for the X. I don't want to start some kind of flame-war here, but just wondering who has run all, or multiple variations of the available Blur-less ROMS and their opinion of each.
I know of these ROMS:
Tranquility (3.0)
http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/droid-x-roms/5280-tranquility-3-0-blurless-taken-next-level.html
Rubix Focused1.8.6
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842480
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dr...mitated-never-duplicated-focused-1-8-6-a.html
Rubix Blurry 1.5.2
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dr...ike-theres-no-blur-insane-blurry-1-5-2-a.html
zapX
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=801332
http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/d...y-deodexed-rooted-less-blur-more-options.html
Apex
http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/droid-x-roms/9337-rom-apex-rc1-droid-x-aosp-experience.html
Fission 2.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=839246
Chevy SSX
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/chevyno1-x/93308-halloween-double-special-ss-4-9-ssx-1-0-a.html
Darkslide
http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/d...-blurless.html
Rumm RX
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858117
Anyone care to weigh in on their experiences?
I decided to go an make this a list of Blur-less ROMS with links. While most of these have homes other than XDA, I tried to put both the XDA thread link and the "home" link.
Since we are discussing here... I always wanted to know what was the reason you could not remove BLUR??
I mean.. I know the phone wouldn't boot if you removed it WITHOUT a acceptable replacement.
Like I know I removed HTC Sense UI back in the before time and my phone boot looped because I didn't have a another Launcher to replace it with... could this be the same thing?? Could we remove BLUR apps as long as we have a acceptable replacement??
EX. Remove Blur Dialer and replace with Dialer One...or remove Blur Home and replace with LauncherPro....
MrDanger said:
Since we are discussing here... I always wanted to know what was the reason you could not remove BLUR??
I mean.. I know the phone wouldn't boot if you removed it WITHOUT a acceptable replacement.
Like I know I removed HTC Sense UI back in the before time and my phone boot looped because I didn't have a another Launcher to replace it with... could this be the same thing?? Could we remove BLUR apps as long as we have a acceptable replacement??
EX. Remove Blur Dialer and replace with Dialer One...or remove Blur Home and replace with LauncherPro....
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I have blur home removed and replaced with launcher pro. Do at your own risk though. I know nothing of any other changes that are ok as of yet. I haven't gotten that far.
Zaphod-Beeblebrox said:
In the last couple of weeks, we've seen a lot of advancements in ROM releases for the X. I don't want to start some kind of flame-war here, but just wondering who has run all, or multiple variations of the available Blur-less ROMS and their opinion of each.
I'm personally on RubixFocused 0.5 and think it's just great. But I would like to know if some of the others would be worth trying, or if they are all more or less the same.
I know of these ROMS:
1 - Tranquility (Are all of the current ROMS based off of this one?)
2 - Rubix
3 - zapX (Tempted to try this one just because of the name )
4 - Apex
Anyone care to weigh in on their experiences?
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Nice question.
To me the Theme/Rom's do seem very similar.They for the most part delete or freeze a lot of the "blur" packages.
The statement by most chefs is "It's faster". OK how much faster then a 2.2 OTA,rooted, 928Droid themed phone???
Is the boot time "way" faster .Do apps activate in split seconds???
EDIT: Flash Fixed
I hesitate to try the Theme/Roms because most seem to have glitches like "Flash not fully functioning so that I can view weather and radar maps ,as an example.
Zapx does peak my interest though....
I've said it in 2 other forums. The zapX rom is awesome. Its the fastest I've used and I have had just about all of them. To me its about how fast everything reacts. From opening the app drawer, tilting the phone, to activating the camera, which you all know typically takes 4 or 5 seconds. With zapX all of it is almost instantaneous. That's my 2 cents for what its worth.
And by the way. I've had no problems with flash on zapX, only issue was with weatherbug and it was fixed by the creator within a day...
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I prefer ApeX. Nearly 100% AOSP. It's the closest thing yet..
I just went from zapX to Apex, to me Apex is snappier, and boots up faster.
they are all pretty much the same but zapX seems to be a little slower than the rest for some reason.
You know you can optimize your apks with xUltimate and essentially your stock ota will be just as snappy.
Add a lil MinFree love... and BOOM!!
I'm blazing over here lol
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I'm blazing over here lol
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Keep your person life out of the forums! Lol
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bad4u6669 said:
Keep your person life out of the forums! Lol
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But.. I have no one else to discuss it with
Hahaha
Any of these able to be installed without wiping data? I absolutely HATE reinstalling apps and setting up homescreens etc.
urufu_shinjiro said:
Any of these able to be installed without wiping data? I absolutely HATE reinstalling apps and setting up homescreens etc.
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If u do a nandroid backup beforehand, u can do an advanced restore for just your data
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Actually, is there a way to just back up your market downloads list? That would be all I needed really, then I could go into the market, go to downloads, reinstall all those apps, then use launcher pro backup to restore my icons etc.
urufu_shinjiro said:
Actually, is there a way to just back up your market downloads list? That would be all I needed really, then I could go into the market, go to downloads, reinstall all those apps, then use launcher pro backup to restore my icons etc.
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Just use titanium backup. It backups and restores in one click.
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Just use titanium backup. It backups and restores in one click.
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Yeah, if you pay nearly five bucks for it and I'm poor, spent all my money on the DX, lol. The free version will run the batch restore but you have to click "Install" and the "Done" for each and every app...it would be easier to write down all my apps and settings on a piece of paper than F with that, lol.
urufu_shinjiro said:
Yeah, if you pay nearly five bucks for it and I'm poor, spent all my money on the DX, lol. The free version will run the batch restore but you have to click "Install" and the "Done" for each and every app...it would be easier to write down all my apps and settings on a piece of paper than F with that, lol.
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App Brain does this.
Zaphod-Beeblebrox said:
App Brain does this.
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Oh DUH! I so should have thought of this, my bad guys, lol!
Here is a thread on a new AOSP Rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=808793
I was thinking about giving Apex a try this weekend. Now I'm kinda looking forward to this & the next Rubix.
I updated OP with a list and Links to the ROMS. If I've missed any, please let me know and I'll add them.

Launcher Pro on MT4G?

Is it me, or is Launcher Pro not working right on this phone? I'll set as my default, but everytime I hit the home key it keeps bringing me back to my Sense home. Errr... please don't tell me that I can't use LP.
=O does adw launcher work?
thats odd
LauncherPro is working perfectly for me! Check and be sure you made it your default.
Of course I've been setting it as the default, it's just not sticking for me. It keeps forcing me to Sense.
WilliamStern said:
Of course I've been setting it as the default, it's just not sticking for me. It keeps forcing me to Sense.
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Uninstall it and re-install LP again, backup its settings if you'd like before uninstalling so that you can restore them after re-installing.
It's working perfectly on my end.
Works perfect here as well.
Works great on mine as well.
Working with no issues.
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Clear the defaults of HTC Sense and hit home again. It should prompt you for the home default.
adw launcher works perfectly as well...
Finally got it to work. Thanks guys!
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Finally got it to work. Thanks guys!
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Anything particular that you had to do to get it work correctly, beyond what was suggested in this thread?
Also, I didn't want to create a new thread for this, but I just got back form the TMO store where I looked at the MT4G and the G2. Trying to decide if either is a good replacement for my Droid 1. Obviously, I'll be waiting for full permanent root on both before buying.
If you install LP or ADW, how much of that awful UI on the MT4G is removed/covered?
Random side note, on their live G2s, all the screens hung from the body when the phone was held upside down. Is that normal? All the G2 I've looked at are like that, but they've always been demo models and have been handled by who knows how many people.
No problems for me either
works FINE for me with no problems whatsoever! ADW launcher, now that is another story....very buggy on mine!
LP seems to work fine on my end even after last nights OTA update to 2.2.1
Bateluer said:
Anything particular that you had to do to get it work correctly, beyond what was suggested in this thread?
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Nope, just remove/clear your preferred launcher, hit home, check the box to remember default, them select LP as your launcher.
Bateluer said:
If you install LP or ADW, how much of that awful UI on the MT4G is removed/covered?
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Um, all of it. That's the whole point in installing a replacement - you choose to use one or another.
Bateluer said:
Random side note, on their live G2s, all the screens hung from the body when the phone was held upside down. Is that normal? All the G2 I've looked at are like that, but they've always been demo models and have been handled by who knows how many people.
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I think they're all like that, just how the hinge mechanism works, but you're probably never gonna holds it like that anyway during normal use. However, that would keep me from buying (prefer candybars anyway). Very happy w/the Glacier, though the battery kind sucks on mine.
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Um, all of it. That's the whole point in installing a replacement - you choose to use one or another.
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Doesn't remove all of Blur on the Droid 2/X phones. Thats why I asked.
working good on mine also..
Bateluer said:
Doesn't remove all of Blur on the Droid 2/X phones. Thats why I asked.
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No prob -I've not noticed remnants of Sense when in LP+
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I tried using the Sense UI for a few hours... back to launcherpro.

Pulling hair out trying to decide what rom for girlfriend..

I have been snooping around and finally feel comfortable enough to root this phone. She gets off work here in a few hours and were gonna run to the store and pick it up. She sees me messing with my fascinate all the time, flashing this and that and wants me to customize her phone as well. Mainly she wants a Pink theme. I was planning on flashing a custom rom then grabbing a theme, but the development on this phone is out of control lol, you guys have so many more options. I want to keep the phone as stock as possible, and want to retain the blur aspects. She isn't going to be able to troubleshoot the phone on her own if I'm not with her and she has problems, so something very stable, and again, stock-ish.
Would I be better doing a manual deodex on her stock rom and flashing a theme ontop of that? Or are your themes rom specific?
stayin100 said:
I have been snooping around and finally feel comfortable enough to root this phone. She gets off work here in a few hours and were gonna run to the store and pick it up. She sees me messing with my fascinate all the time, flashing this and that and wants me to customize her phone as well. Mainly she wants a Pink theme. I was planning on flashing a custom rom then grabbing a theme, but the development on this phone is out of control lol, you guys have so many more options. I want to keep the phone as stock as possible, and want to retain the blur aspects. She isn't going to be able to troubleshoot the phone on her own if I'm not with her and she has problems, so something very stable, and again, stock-ish.
Would I be better doing a manual deodex on her stock rom and flashing a theme ontop of that? Or are your themes rom specific?
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If something goes wrong and she is not able to trouble shoot it, things can get ugly pretty quick with a custom ROM and what not. Not that it happens all the time, not that it happens other then small bugs and quirks but I would be pissed if my phone was not propertly working and no one was around to fix it.
Themes are ROM specific for the X unless you go with a theme for stock ROM, which could be found here. Staying as close to stock, this would be your best bet. There are other icons and animations you can add with Ninjamorph and by placing files here and there and all it takes it being rooted.
I think a rooted, bloat free Droid X is almost just as quick as a custom ROM. You can add little icons packs, stock themes to really customize it. It would be as if you are running a custom ROM.
Thanks, if I can find a theme girlish enough for her I might just go with that.
If I root will she be able to receive ota updates? Im pretty sure after flashing custom roms she will no long be able to access the ota updates, but what about just plain ole rooted stock phones?
stayin100 said:
Thanks, if I can find a theme girlish enough for her I might just go with that.
If I root will she be able to receive ota updates? Im pretty sure after flashing custom roms she will no long be able to access the ota updates, but what about just plain ole rooted stock phones?
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A rooted phone with no default apps removed will still get OTA updates, just will lose root
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After playing with this thing, I think a more aosp style rom would be more up our ally. I just cant seem to be able to understand this blur stuff... Would you say the majority of people go focused or blurry? Just seems vey heavy and bloated
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Rubix 1.9.7 it is... I thought my fascinate was bloated, these things are pigs stock! Lol, thanks for the help, will be reading up more then hooking her up with a nice focused phone
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stayin100 said:
Rubix 1.9.7 it is... I thought my fascinate was bloated, these things are pigs stock! Lol, thanks for the help, will be reading up more then hooking her up with a nice focused phone
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Great rom! Built by drod2169. If your gf decides she likes some of the blur components he also built a "blurry" version with some blur in it.
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Yes, Rubix is a great rom but you might also want to consider Liberty 1.5. It is also a blurless rom and so far has been running great on my phone. I have tried several roms including rubix and always come back to liberty. It is by far more customizable than any other rom out there. There are also a couple of girly themes that I believe were just ported over.
I would also suggest Liberty 1.5
Primarily so you GF could load this theme:
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/li...theme-rockin-rainbows-liberty-has-landed.html
I put this on my Wife's D2 and she loves it.
She doesn't like that theme, but it is a very nicely done complete theme... Still leaning towards rubix, will research liberty more though.
stayin100 said:
She doesn't like that theme, but it is a very nicely done complete theme... Still leaning towards rubix, will research liberty more though.
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If not liberty then look at cobalt as well. Well buily from google source. And check out the crystal X theme for rubix by Bignadad... Very extensive and looka great
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I'm a big fan of liberty. Even if you don't like the stock theme, liberty has really the most intuitive theme system I've seen. Use liberty toolbox, go to themes, then literally look at the screenshot and tap install o. The one you want. No reboots, .zip files, anything. Super simple.
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Help with Atrix Dock....

Guys my cousin has the Motorola Atrix and he actually likes the blur. But he wants to change the 2 icons in the dock to something else...right now its phone and contacts.....can they be changed? Without using a different Launcher?
I honestly don't think so. I get my Atrix on Saturday, and will be using Launcher Pro. I'd play with settings if the goal was to keep Blur. HTC Sense didn't allow for much launcher customization on my Evo, but I had Cyanogenmod on it the moment it was stable.
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Thanks alot!!
Kind of a round-about way of saying "I don't know." But I made the Moto rep regret being in the store when I threw a barrage of questions at him. He ended up handing me the phone saying "Do your thing" and let me explore Blur a little. Seems pretty locked. Not much customization, other than with what widgets you use. Like I said, I'm a huge fan of ADW Launcher and Launcher Pro, and I'll be using LP about 25 seconds after booting it up the first time.
Yeah I missed with the Motoblur launcher and while it's not bad, it's no ADW or LauncherPro!

[Q] old home apk

i know this probably sounds really weird, but im sure im not the only person. one of the funnest things about owning an evo is the insane number of roms and themes out there. i actually have several different home apps setup so when i get bored with one i can just use froyo home switcher and voila, new home and theme. however recently i kinda started missing the old look. i've never been too fond of the htc sense ui. i just remember on my g1 and my mt3g the donut and cupcake home launchers. i've found a couple links to home apk's like this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867060 but the apk apparently isn't compatible with froyo cuz it wouldn't install (failed parsing). can i use adb and force an older incompatible app to install perhaps to the /system/app/ folder (already know how to do it so i don't need instructions just wondering if it can be done) any help is appreciated. ive even thought about just searching for the png's in the apk files and switching the drawer tab and drawer background out for the old style png's. please and thanks
ps i was contemplating posting this under android/general but seeing as it has to be compatible with evo and froyo i figured this might hail better results
Why don't you just install adw from the market(its froyo compatible)? Plus adw has tons of free themes; It's about as close as your going to get to the stock home launcher from aosp. There's also a stock home launcher in the market you can download (both free) if you search "launcher".
No you cant install those old launchers from previous android builds it will just force close if its not froyo compatible.
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Thanks yea I kinda figured, thought maybe I could extract the apk and maybe update some parts to make it work. Yea I have adw ex already, its alright. Still kinda miss the aosp cupcake look but time changes everything. I think I should just start learning to develop apps myself instead of always leaning on everyone else.
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Look at HElauncher, it has a couple and is a light launcher that actually has the closest thing to a vanilla launcher.

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