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How do HD2 owners feel about the Dell Streak?

Hi All,
I know this is a HD2 forum, but I was just looking for some opinions on the new Dell Streak now on o2.
I am pleased with o2's phone releases since losing exclusivity on the iphone, and this recent release is quite impressive (and huge!).
Anyway, thoughts please...comparisons etc.
Thanks.

i was looking at that today..
i was considering getting rid of my hd2 for it..but then again..my pockets arent big enough for that phone lol..
so i decided to jsut stick with the hd2 untill they can port android on it or tmobile gets another android device with a 1ghz processor

too big , low quality plastic easily scratches, lower ram ,only landscape

Dell are calling this a tablet to be in the same class as the iPad. So considering the streaks screen is only .7 inches bigger than a hd2's what does that class our device as? A mobile phone, a PDA or a tablet? By Dells reconing it would be a tablet but the streak is really nothing more than a PDA with a phone module. If you look at it this way i'd rather keep my HD2.

I would like to have a play with one to see what its like, but according to the specs, its is huuuge! Would dwarf my HD2.
My feelings are I have had my HD2 for about 8 months now and it is still top end smartphone on the market. Not many other phones I have owned I can say that about. Roll on the next 8 months!

Thanks for the comments so far. I do not think that the Streak's screen size is big enough to warrant calling it a tablet, also, the casing around the device just makes it bigger than it needs to be IMO.
IMHO, I feel that the HD2 is still the best device on the market simply because no two look alike once XDA possesses your soul, and I am still interested in it 8 months on.
Come on competitors, what else can you throw at us? Try harder!

This is exactly the sort of device that I'd replace my HD2 with IMO. Rather than trade down for something with a smaller screen, because lets face it, I don't think any HD2 owners would ever consider doing this after experiencing such ease and clarity with a bigger screen, so the only option is to upgrade in size, and this device certainly ticks the boxes for me.
I love my HD2 and everything that I've been able to do with it since reading & putting into practice all the tweaks that I've learnt of this site, but I'm now feeling like enough is enough as miss the android feeling as it's more 'with the times' than WM. Android itself is growing at an alarming rate and will no doubt be the number 1 mobile OS in a very short time, and the dell streak is the perfect device to complement it.
On a slightly lesser note, it's a shame the device didn't ship with 2.1 or 2.2 but I guess at the time of production, 1.6 was version on offer. I also think the price is good, so selling the HD2 and putting a few quid in seems well worth it.

Too big.
The step from HD2 with 4.3" and thin frame to 5" and thick border is the one that kills convenience and portability for not much. The HD2 is very comfortable yet just fits well in the pocket, but nothing bigger would, and on the other hand 0.7" don't change much in usability.
Android might be the (only?) interesting point.

Just played with 1 in store today for about 10'
It's really huge, not fit in pocket absolutely.
But the screen and colors somehow amazing. With TFT screen, the screen is like a bigger one of HD2.
At 1st, I like the way Dell skin the homescreen, smooth and fast. We can choose how many homescreen, and manage the background apps (somehow).
No double tap, just pinch to zoom when browsing, got flash too.
5mp camera seem not so good.

Looks good apart from it being landscape only. I prefer to hold devices in portrait unless viewing photos/movies, so this alone rules it out for me
Just done some more research and it appears that the Dell does have an accelerometer so should work in both landscape and portrait, can anyone confirm this? Can you type etc in portrait?

didnt know it was landscape only, I am sure this will change with an update though. I have to say I was tempted but I think android has a way to go yet, it hasnt even got a decent video player yet - coreplayer may change that soon though... (dont hold your breath though)

I want one. Hoped I could purchase one from the UK but I would have to move there to do so. Got to wait a month. I hate waiting for anything.
Diane

I'm really tempted by the Streak now. I love huge screen and rarely make phone calls, but I love Winmo too. It's hard to say goodbye with my HD2

I like big screens but the dell has a little too much unused extra dimension for me. I'll wait for the Sony Ericsson 5.5 inch android phone
Actually probably not, HTC will probably have a 5.5 inch out first with minimal bezel like the hd2, and I'd want to get that one.

I have been trying to replace my iphone for about one year. I haven't found anything where the plastic is as nice and I like the way everything looks on the the iphone screen. Tried a few WinMo phones, but everything always looked so TEENY on the screen. A few weeks ago I bought the Nexus One. For a day or two I considered selling it and moving on to the next device, but little by little I am liking it. [I wish the screen was bigger.] I was considering the Dell. I like the Android o/s - **LOVE** Swype. I am getting very good at it now. I had a tough time typing on the Nexus, but with Swype my 'Swypos' are minimal !!
I have Tmobile. Not sure what other phones I could use. Want to stick with Android though.

The only thing that impresses me about the Dell streak is the Gorilla Glass
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/29/dell-streaks-gorilla-glass-screen-torture-tested-for-your-amus/

xavierdemon said:
The only thing that impresses me about the Dell streak is the Gorilla Glass
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/29/dell-streaks-gorilla-glass-screen-torture-tested-for-your-amus/
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And to think that I was thinking of getting a screen protector for this bad boy.

I took my friend to go get one yesterday, well what a joke, the guys in O2 aren't allowed to sell it sim free (in my town anyway), they didn't have one on show and we wanted to see it and have a play we both had to put our HD2's behind the counter so they would let us play with it for 5 whole mins (WOW).
So car-phone whorehouse we went 6 of the guys in their didn't even no what it was, even though there was a big poster on the wall, the one guy in there that could help, said yes we sell it sim free £429 i thought thats not bad considering, so he go's in the back to get one, comes out all red faced I'm so sorry guys we haven't even got it in stock yet, were not getting it till next week when the Dell rep comes, (What a joke surely you should no if you have that brand new device in the store yet), so as we walked out laughing we though Phones4U, hahahahaha never had such fun in my life spoke to a girl in there she just look puzzled, then the manager came over, he asked what we wanted explained what it was showed him the leaflet and he said were not getting that phone mate tbh were a sh%t store and just laughed. So he didn't get one went home and ordered one on-line, morale of the story don't go shopping in a poxy town like mine.
After playing with the device got to say it is fun, but
Too Big to use as a phone
landscape only sucks edit(turns out Paul confirmed its not)
you're gonna have to use a headset of some form to take calls
screen is tuff as boots.
I'll stick to the HD2 thanks

The HD 2 was and IS the best Smartphone on the market TODAY, until the HD3 comes
HTC has the most experience in building WM-devices and Android ones and - except obviously raped and misprogrammed Network-Provider-ROMS such as O2, Vodafone, T-mobile - has the most stable performance. I bought mine with HTC-stock-rom, and since ROM 1.48 (and the great mods from the geniouses here at XDA) no freeze occured ever. It is serving me without any flaw all over the world, and this is exactly the same experience that I always had with my Touch HD.

@hoss_n2
You know what you really do post a lot of rubbish on this forum and seem to be seriously misinformed to so I'll answer you points.
too big,
Maybe for you it is but that's just your personal opinion after all for many others it's a great or even perfect size.
low quality plastic easily scratches
Really and you know this how? I played with one today and it's a great quality plastic and feels really good and it's to early to say if it scratches easily or not as no one has owned one long enough. If you mean the screen as well that's also wrong as that's made of Gorilla Glass and their was a video of someone attacking it with a ball point pen and no damage was done check YouTube or Engadget to see it.
Oh and that's not just MO either but that of others that have already got their Streak which includes Paul from MoDoCo. I'm still waiting for mine to arrive.
lower ram
Really as Paul has just been running some tests on it seeing as he has already Rooted it yup in under 1 day it's Rooted and it's showing 408mb of free Ram so where do you get this low Ram idea from then.
only landscape
LMAO just wrong nothing more needs to said here it works in landscape and Portrait modes don't believe me read this post by Paul on MoDoCo where he confirms for some one that the seesmic app goes full screen both in portrait and landscape ?
In fact read the whole thread for his first thoughts on the Streak.
http://android.modaco.com/content/d...-streak-thoughts-dump-got-questions-ask-here/
Having now seen one hands on as opposed to just pictures or videos it is not as big as i thought it was going to be, now if it's to big for you only you can decide but it has to be bigger then an HD2 to fit in a 5" screen.
Marc

Dell Streak or Captivate (Galaxy S)

Hey guys,
I would really appreciate it if you could tell me which phone you think would be the better choice. I have had an upgrade from AT&T for over half a year and have been waiting for a big bad a** Android phone to get but have not been inspired yet. The Streak is looking really good and has had me interested for quite some time, but this new Samsung Captivate looks just as great. What do you guys think will be the best choice?

Ive seen a lot of these threads, but i rarely see how the 2 devices are rivals for each other.
The streak is a landscape pad, that can make calls. The Galaxy is a phone.
All you can do is try them in store to see what you think.

Just depends what you want! Streak is much larger of course.

rovex said:
Ive seen a lot of these threads, but i rarely see how the 2 devices are rivals for each other.
The streak is a landscape pad, that can make calls. The Galaxy is a phone.
All you can do is try them in store to see what you think.
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I agree with that, to me i wanted a tablet and i did not want one as big as the Icrap hence a came across the dell its everything i wanted in a tablet that size and the bonus to me was you can make calls from it as i was not looking for that at first, at present i do not think there is anything better on the market,but now HP has acquired Palm i am sure they will come up with a little gem

Depends on what you want it for.
My usage of a 'mobile device' is a tool first, then a phone. I spend a lot of time travelling and the large screen of the streak makes web browsing, emails, work stuff and games really easy. I rarely use it as a phone other than for a quick call that lasts a minute or two.
So in my case the streak is perfect - especially since my eyes are going. However if I was primarily a phone user - then it would be the wrong device - too big, awkward to hold on a long call compared to a basic nokia anyway.
My view is that now days the phone part is the least used function - so if its going to be a web browser/facebook/twitter/email client then it needs to have a usable screen that makes its main function pleasant to use.
Its not saying the phone part is not important - for me its critical it works as a phone - which it does - its easy to hear, people reckon the sound is good so it fulfils that requirement - but as I said - the phone bit is only used for 5 minutes a day so the big screen means more to me than the fact it feels odd when you talk into it.
On a carrying it around front, its not too big at all, it fits in my pockets quite easily as it's so slim. It gets good signal strength, it hasn't crashed and I've even read an ebook on it which I wouldn't have even attempted on the desire.
(oh and it's quite cool putting other peoples phones on it and saying - oh look, your whole phone is smaller than my screen.......)
But if you spend hours chatting on the phone, either get another phone or buy a bluetooth headset.

navrac said:
(oh and it's quite cool putting other peoples phones on it and saying - oh look, your whole phone is smaller than my screen.......)
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LMAO! Sorry to intrude, but that was a hilarious comment!

navrac said:
(oh and it's quite cool putting other peoples phones on it and saying - oh look, your whole phone is smaller than my screen.......)
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I can't wait to do that to the iFolk. Of course, they'll defend their god and justify their purchase anyway they can.

I have had both of these within the last couple of weeks so can make a direct comparison. The Galaxy is a 4" display and most definitely a phone. The Dell Streak has a 5" screen and also a reasonable sized surround and in my view looks absolutely daft held up to the ear like a phone.
I remember buying an early Nokia Communicator to use as a converged device and it wasn't until I saw someone else using it like a phone that I realised that instead of looking like the cutting edge device it was, it actually looked like a throwback to the early days of mobile phones.
What I usually do if I havn't actually seen the phone in the flesh is to make a little paper model of it from the dimensions and see how it is going to fit in the hand etc.

navrac said:
Depends on what you want it for.
My usage of a 'mobile device' is a tool first, then a phone. I spend a lot of time travelling and the large screen of the streak makes web browsing, emails, work stuff and games really easy. I rarely use it as a phone other than for a quick call that lasts a minute or two.
So in my case the streak is perfect - especially since my eyes are going. However if I was primarily a phone user - then it would be the wrong device - too big, awkward to hold on a long call compared to a basic nokia anyway.
My view is that now days the phone part is the least used function - so if its going to be a web browser/facebook/twitter/email client then it needs to have a usable screen that makes its main function pleasant to use.
Its not saying the phone part is not important - for me its critical it works as a phone - which it does - its easy to hear, people reckon the sound is good so it fulfils that requirement - but as I said - the phone bit is only used for 5 minutes a day so the big screen means more to me than the fact it feels odd when you talk into it.
On a carrying it around front, its not too big at all, it fits in my pockets quite easily as it's so slim. It gets good signal strength, it hasn't crashed and I've even read an ebook on it which I wouldn't have even attempted on the desire.
(oh and it's quite cool putting other peoples phones on it and saying - oh look, your whole phone is smaller than my screen.......)
But if you spend hours chatting on the phone, either get another phone or buy a bluetooth headset.
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You just helped me make my decision. Your view on the function of what a phone is used for is just like mine. It is a media device that makes phone calls from time to time when you need to make one. I can not wait for the streak to be released in the US. I hope that July 14 date turns out to be true!

abezapata said:
Hey guys,
I would really appreciate it if you could tell me which phone you think would be the better choice. I have had an upgrade from AT&T for over half a year and have been waiting for a big bad a** Android phone to get but have not been inspired yet. The Streak is looking really good and has had me interested for quite some time, but this new Samsung Captivate looks just as great. What do you guys think will be the best choice?
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If you are planning to watch videos on streak then I will tell you this that its screen is inferior when comparing AMOLED screen on desire .. colours are dull screen looks washed out & strangely looks a bit pixalated too .. I dont think its resolution is high enough ..
Other than thats its a perfect tablet with the only other let down 1.6 which shouldnt be an issue as 2.2 should come soon. Build and look is awsome, good camera, good in every other aspect in my view

ufh1 said:
If you are planning to watch videos on streak then I will tell you this that its screen is inferior when comparing AMOLED screen on desire .. colours are dull screen looks washed out & strangely looks a bit pixalated too .. I dont think its resolution is high enough ..
Other than thats its a perfect tablet with the only other let down 1.6 which shouldnt be an issue as 2.2 should come soon. Build and look is awsome, good camera, good in every other aspect in my view
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The movie problem would not be too bad since I prefer watching them at home on the big screen. I just want the screen to perform well when I am browsing the web and using social apps on it.

abezapata said:
The movie problem would not be too bad since I prefer watching them at home on the big screen. I just want the screen to perform well when I am browsing the web and using social apps on it.
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+1
I have a half dozen movies, and dozens of Seinfeld episodes, that I use on every phone I buy. When I watch a video on a phone I'm not looking for "true blacks" or "bright vibrant colors" or anything approaching high end quality. I'm looking for a quick and dirty way to kill some time while staring intently at a sub 6" screen.
YMMV but for me, the size of the streak's screen trumps all the advantages of AMOLED's superior color rendering, etc.

Pick them both up in a shop and have a go!
Something that may sway you is that the AMOLED screen on the Galaxy is really fragile, drop it on a floor and it will break
And it's really soft glass, even the softcase that it comes with has been known to scratch it

'navrac' summarised the phones' attributes perfectly. I would also like to add that it has a certain feeling of quality. It seems to be the choice for the connoisseur and enthusiast, a device whose qualities only become fully appreciated after an extended period of ownership. Whilst other smart phone users may try to ridicule it's size, the Streak owner will just smile quietly inwardly to himself, safe in the knowledge that his device will still be giving useful service long after their buzz boxes have been consigned to the rubbish bin.

I'd definately take a look at the HTC Desire

abezapata said:
Hey guys,
I would really appreciate it if you could tell me which phone you think would be the better choice. I have had an upgrade from AT&T for over half a year and have been waiting for a big bad a** Android phone to get but have not been inspired yet. The Streak is looking really good and has had me interested for quite some time, but this new Samsung Captivate looks just as great. What do you guys think will be the best choice?
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Speaking as someone who has just switched from a Samsung Galaxy S (i9000 model) to the Dell Streak, here are my reasons for doing so:
1. GPS problems on the i9000 - I'm not convinced they'll ever be fixed. Certainly for me SatNav is a big factor in my smartphone usage.
2. The "lag" problem on the i9000. Indicative of sloppy coding (some say bad choice of filesystem, so perhaps just sloppy engineering decision). There are fixes but none of them seem to be the "true" fix.
3. I do a lot of reading (RSS feeds etc) so I came to realise that I could benefit from a larger screen - but not so large I couldn't pocket it.
4. Although the build quality of the i9000 didn't bother me (I did manage to take a minuscule chink out of the glass by dropping it on ... carpet?!) it did creak a bit because it seems to be virtually all plastic. The Streak on the other hand seems really well put together and solid - no creaking. The Streak looks quite menacing, the i9000 looks like an apology for an iPhone 3G
There are annoyances with the Streak, my main gripe is that the default orientation for everything is Landscape and there's no way of changing it (that I know). Even if I lock ADW launcher into portrait mode - in reality it stays locked to landscape! Maddening!
I was also concerned that the size of the Streak might mean I'd have problems pocketing it - no worries so far, it slides easily into my front trouser pocket and comes out just as easily.
Neither device is perfect, but really the GPS issue on the i9000 was the dealbreaker.

checkbox111 said:
Pick them both up in a shop and have a go!
Something that may sway you is that the AMOLED screen on the Galaxy is really fragile, drop it on a floor and it will break
And it's really soft glass, even the softcase that it comes with has been known to scratch it
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Um the captivate has gorilla glass so i don't see how it is fragile

gorilla glass is more scratch resistant than it is shatter/chipping resistant
fragile can imply either case

You got your point,that's for sure.But,hey,it's too naive to comment "its resolution is not high enough" ,the truth is 800x480 for a 5' screen,as a tablet,is a bit too high.
Typical tablets have some PPI(pixel per inch) like 132(iPad),170(Samsung P1000),149(Lenovo Lepad).Sure,higher PPI means better video/picture viewing,but it also means the control/text in softwares will become smaller by compare,and that would make you experience difficulty interacting with softwares design for tablets.
Dell Streak's PPI is 187,which is already a little bit too high as a tablet,it would become a phone/mp4 if you make the resolution even higher.

You can always change the phone's DPI setting by editing the build prop
the streak's default DPI is 160 and if it were brought to a similar ratio as HTC phones it would be set to around ~200
DPI determines the size/scaling of everything, the only issue is that the stock dialer in streak and a couple of other widgets are not Android stock, they break at 200 DPI but otherwise it works well enough at 200-240 DPI

IS your STREAK getting smaller?

I have had my Streak for a couple of months now and when i first got it the screen seemed HUGE.
Now whilst im still really enjoying it im wondering if i could cope with an even bigger screen................cough.....cough....Galaxy....cough...tab ....ahem
anyone else thinking along these lines?
I dont feel embarassed holding up the streak to my head on the phone and tbh no one has ever looked at me funny when i have done so.
I really dont use my phone much to talk so the size issue isnt that much of a big deal
i still love my streak and i dont fancy paying out £700 for a tab but 7 inches of froyo and flash goodness is tempting.
The Ipad IS TOO BIG!

You should try samsung galaxy tab and viewsonic viewpad 7 both of them is 7" screen and will be coming out soon.

Coming to the Streak from a 7" apad I'd say the 5" is better. The 7" screen is good but still just too big to be pocket portable. If you've a bag or a case to put it in then fine, it's a good working size. 2.2 Froyo might be a problem though if what I read is true. Froyo won't work well on tablets, it was designed for smart phones, even on the steak I see a lot of apps that just don't cope well with the extra screen acreage.

youve become desensitized. go hold an iphone for about 3 minutes. itll seem microscopic and then when you hold your streak again itll feel huge again. and youll be happy you got your streak.

The Jack of Clubs said:
youve become desensitized. go hold an iphone for about 3 minutes. itll seem microscopic and then when you hold your streak again itll feel huge again. and youll be happy you got your streak.
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funny you should say that but i compared my streak to a friends i phone yesterday and it did seem huge
we then drew up a template of a Galaxy tab using the measurements and that seemed very big.
Basically the whole streak is about the size of the Tabs screen!
im not un happy with my streak but as a rare talker on mobiles and i do put my streak in a bag it might be worth a thought esp with phone capability to consider the Tab.
when i want to carry a phone in my pocket i get out my old Hero i.e. in the evenings

The Jack of Clubs said:
youve become desensitized. go hold an iphone for about 3 minutes. itll seem microscopic and then when you hold your streak again itll feel huge again. and youll be happy you got your streak.
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i did just that when i was out shopping, popped into the apple store and compared iphone4 against the streak......i just couldnt put up with such a small screen..

It's never felt that big to me.
I was playing with my advantage the other day, 640x480 5" screen it's bigger than the streak.
How far ahead of the game HTC were with that device, pity they didn't go with Bluetooth keyboard for it, could happily use that and the case it came with the streak then.. except four the magnets everywhere. .
Anyway the steak it's prefect size to me sometimes I wish it were a bit taller in landscape orientation, so I could see a bit more, but otherwise it's fantastic!

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I was playing with my advantage the other day, 640x480 5" screen it's bigger than the streak.
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I used to have one of those many moons ago, very innovative in its time.
I nearly bought an HTC SHift as well also pretty cool and runs win7!

spacecat said:
I used to have one of those many moons ago, very innovative in its time.
I nearly bought an HTC SHift as well also pretty cool and runs win7!
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I know you did I remember

just feels like a normal phone now...i always forget how big it is untill people see it and say..omg what is that...
I had a advantage in the past and was also (still am) tempted to buy a shift...but I use the streak as my main phone..and i do alot of calling and have ALWAYS just used it on my ear and it feels fine...i think its just what you become used to...starts to feel normality to you

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I know you did I remember
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Oh dear that doesn't sound good

dell's size is quite alright, it was not as monsterous as I have expected. i don't know about the 7 inch tab though, might be a bit too big for me

I held my old HD2 the other day and that seemed big at the time, but now it feels small! I remember when i got my HD2, I was playing with it for a few days and then played with my Xperia X1 again and I was like 'whoa this is TINY!' and when i got the X1I though it was big . Weird isn't it.
My sister called for my mum yesterday and I handed my mum the Streak, she didnt know what it was! I was like,its a phone mum, she just held it flat in her hands in front of her and was like 'Hello hello?!', as if she thought it was automatically on speaker phone or something, old people make me laugh!

i played with my touch pro today. ^_^ how did i survive? a two and a half in screen. and i used to watch videos on it! its smaller tall than my streak is wide. still, my streak doesnt feel as big as it did the first day i had it. i dont think i would like a phone that is bigger than the streak, but maybe a larger screen. there is alot of bezel on the streak.

vinokirk said:
old people make me laugh!
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I know. My father was having a hearty laugh last night with my kids playing with Talking Tom on the streak. He seemed to be their age.
You and I will be old one day too! And we will be fun too I guess.

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there is alot of bezel on the streak.
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if the tech ever gets bezel-less it'll be even more awesome!
Sent from my Dell Streak using XDA App

the only time I 'notice' the size of the streak is when trying to swype one-handed - it's a stretch!
there's no real down side other than people who haven't jumped the curve to a 5" device yet ;p
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Why was the dell streak a flop?

Still diggin my launch day evo after all this time. Support on XDA is outstanding... so many options available...running MIUI atm.
I was thinking about a dell streak before the EVO, but it was always second fiddle because I'm an HTC fan. Anyways, curious, why was the dell streak a flop?
Also, anyone know a good site to see sales numbers for the various phones? Thanks

My guess is because of the 5 inch screen it was launched with. To small for a tablet to big for a phone.
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and it was made by Dell

aimbdd said:
My guess is because of the 5 inch screen it was launched with. To small for a tablet to big for a phone.
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This big time, I actually got to fool around with one in Best Buy and that phone just to big for a cell phone. Its actually quite laggy and cumbersome IMHO, the display would be great for a pocket tv but that's about it. Even though it runs Android, its user interface is strange and not very straight forward.
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This as well.

I had a Dell Streak when I lived in the UK and it was great. I much prefer it over my Evo, but since I'm on sprint I cant really use the streak. Screen is absolutely massive, but the phone is tapered on the sides and really thin so it fit well in my pocket.
I think the streak "flopped" because there wasnt really any advertising and At&t charged a crazy high price when it first came out (300 with a new contract).

A guy at work has one. I remember when I first heard of the HD2 and Evo after owning 3.7" screens (or smaller) for years, I thought the 4.3" screen would be way too big. Of course, here I am, and I can't imagine going smaller than 4.3" ever again. So when I heard about the Streak, at first I thought 5" would be way too big too. But then I thought maybe it'd be like the Evo, and you'd get used to it.
Now that I've seen one, I can say no, it really is too big. 4.3" is the sweet spot. Maybe 4.5", but anything above that and it loses pocketability and usefulness as a phone. But at 5", as others have said, it's too small to be a viable tablet. Even the 7" tablets seem too small to me when I carry 4.3" in my pocket.

bkrodgers said:
A guy at work has one. I remember when I first heard of the HD2 and Evo after owning 3.7" screens (or smaller) for years, I thought the 4.3" screen would be way too big. Of course, here I am, and I can't imagine going smaller than 4.3" ever again. So when I heard about the Streak, at first I thought 5" would be way too big too. But then I thought maybe it'd be like the Evo, and you'd get used to it.
Now that I've seen one, I can say no, it really is too big. 4.3" is the sweet spot. Maybe 4.5", but anything above that and it loses pocketability and usefulness as a phone. But at 5", as others have said, it's too small to be a viable tablet. Even the 7" tablets seem too small to me when I carry 4.3" in my pocket.
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I think this is one thing apple got right imho a tablet needs to be at least 10"
even 7" isn't really enough.

they were way ahead of their time with the dell axim! wish i still had mine to play around with. awesome touchscreen mini tablet device, just needed to add a mobile radio
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I messed around with it ... it was kinda laggy but most display phones I play with are, too many hands messing up things.
There is no way I could ever get used to a 5" screen on a phone.. I like the EVO 4.3" screen, any bigger will be too much.
I too thought I might be able to adjust like I first did with the EVO.. but after handling one... no freakin way.

I thought it was because of the 1.6 OS that debuted on it when 2.1/2.2 was the standard...

I am done with Samsung tablet products

Ok, this is my 3rd device and all of them have had dirt under the screen. I am so pissed right now.

Very frustrating, but a problem with all manufacturers. I was unable to get an Ipad 2 because every one I tested had bad light leak (at least 4 units). The BB playbook had dust, dirt or bad pixil on my first 3 units. My first tab 2 had a spec of dust. The second appears perfect, but I'm determined not to run tests until I find something!

jrock2004 said:
Ok, this is my 3rd device and all of them have had dirt under the screen. I am so pissed right now.
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Have you considered a device with an AMOLED screen? The Galaxy Tab 7.7 has one. The technology sandwiches the touchscreen and the display together - no room for particulates.

Cool story Doubt anyone cares

imnuts said:
Cool story Doubt anyone cares
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i know right. imagine trying to cook food for these kind of people lol
its like the iphone antenna. not a huge deal (i had one) but once people read about it then they had to hold it that way and then start complaining. its how the particles under the samsung screen is going to turn out. people spend $400 expecting $800 worth of product

I realize that it may seem crazy to have a post about this but I think it is also something that after so many you have to raise a question. I mean you are spending over 400 dollars for these things, I think you should get some quality. Yes I can let this go and I am as I am using the device.
I am just saying that how many of these are out there and when does the manufacturer have to start taking responsibility for it.

Just looked at my screen, and there isn't any dirt under it. Don't remember seeing any dirt or dust under the screen at any display models that I've seen in stores either, so that makes 4 - 7" and 3 - 10" tablets that I've looked at without any screen issues (besides just needing wiped off).

I have never had dirt under a screen in a device. I am sorry OP that you are having this issue.
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First tablet I've ever purchased; no dirt.
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I just wonder what world I've missed where everything is perfect 100% of the time?? You can definitely tell the spoiled people in the world.
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stelv said:
I have never had dirt under a screen in a device. I am sorry OP that you are having this issue.
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Just bought a tab 2 10" for the wifes birthday - no dust/dirt problems here, she loves it.
Terry

I agree with the dust problem. I have seen this problem on iphone 3gs, iphone 4, ipad 1, ipad 2, galaxy tab p1000, tab 7.7, and many other models...
It is really hard to find a device without dust. Latest screen technology get rides of the backlight bleeding problem, specially the super amoled screen, but the problem is that the dust gets inside between the touch panel and the screen during the manufacture process, so you won't be able to avoid it...
It is a shame that such an expensive piece of hardware gets that problem just because they don't care when they are manufacturing the pieces... :S
I have returned dozens of devices because of this fault... I don't understand why people return devices with dead pixels but not with dust under the screen... the visual effect is the same or even worse with dust!

Its just a tablet not a scalpel, just a mass produced product. You're lucky you don't see any Chinese dung beetles under the glass. Lol.
Pp.
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jrock2004 said:
I realize that it may seem crazy to have a post about this but I think it is also something that after so many you have to raise a question. I mean you are spending over 400 dollars for these things, I think you should get some quality. Yes I can let this go and I am as I am using the device.
I am just saying that how many of these are out there and when does the manufacturer have to start taking responsibility for it.
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This device does not cost over $400.
That said, mine is perfect. No dirt, nothing.

I'm just grateful mine didn't come with any dirt. And to back the OP, if I spend anywhere near $400 then I want to see some quality. Less than perfect usually won't cut it, not if I am shelling out that kinda money. I want to get the best bang for my buck... I have seen this complaint in other forums and if I got a tablet and it had dust under the screen, I would certainly return it for another as well, not settle for a device that has a flaw, especially knowing some people are buying them without this flaw...

The Razr was the last phone I had with dust under the screen. The first Razr.

Is it that time of the month?
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dkb218 said:
The Razr was the last phone I had with dust under the screen. The first Razr.
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Ahhh now those were the days lol
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hmm
when i buy my gt2 10.1 the first day was awsome but till then i bored this. when a experimental release of cm9 comes out then i realise manny products worth only if a unlocked moded os is ecxist and its true companies play a game but we have the weapons to control it and win the game.

Darunion said:
i know right. imagine trying to cook food for these kind of people lol
its like the iphone antenna. not a huge deal (i had one) but once people read about it then they had to hold it that way and then start complaining. its how the particles under the samsung screen is going to turn out. people spend $400 expecting $800 worth of product
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I know the Iphone antenna Thing is easy to get over, but dust under the screen would be hard for me to ignore. I cant overlook things like some people. I would go bonkers.. Just My thoughts.