I bought an Ipad 2 on Friday and a Xoom on Saturday...The Ipad2 grew on me because its slick and pretty efficient. The Xoom wasnt even on my radar until I went back to Best Buy to ask a question about the Ipad 2. Long story short, I have 2 weeks to decide. Initially, I wasnt crazy about the Xoom, but its started to grow on me, seems to have more depth. I am a Droid/Inc guy, I root , the whole nine, so I like Android's platform, but I am scared about whether or not the apps and support will matchup with the potential of the Xooms hardware. The Ipad2 is like a lexus, rock solid, uber reliable, intuitive and slick - but also somewhat numb to the feel (experience).The Xoom seems more like a Bimmer...more fun to drive, but also more tempermental.
Xoom fans, please shed light on what you think are the biggest pro's to the Xoom from a hands-on perspective. Thanks!
honestly? Neither.
I really prefer honeycomb over ios. And honeycomb will be available on many different hardware.
Personally I'm waiting on the samsung galaxy 10.1. Its only 10 grams heavier than ipad2 and has better display and 8mp back camera.
For me the iPad isn't an option. Being tethered to their store is just not something I will do.
The apps will catch up. I can't the the iPad as being able to do anything the Xoom can't, but I can see the Xoom being able to do a many things the iPad cannot.
aohus said:
honestly? Neither.
I really prefer honeycomb over ios. And honeycomb will be available on many different hardware.
Personally I'm waiting on the samsung galaxy 10.1. Its only 10 grams heavier than ipad2 and has better display and 8mp back camera.
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It also does not have a standard port of any kind. No micro USB, no micro HDMI. Have fun buying adapters..also the oh so frequent updates Samsung is known for... wait..
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It also does not have a standard port of any kind. No micro USB, no micro HDMI. Have fun buying adapters..also the oh so frequent updates Samsung is known for... wait..
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I own a Xoom, and I see this getting thrown around a lot -- Samsung's update problem.
They're miserable with their touchwiz devices (I own a Vibrant), but given that Google is using the Galaxy line of phones (Nexus S) to showcase Gingerbread, I would hazard it's safe to say if it's running as a Google experience device, the updates can and will come in a timely manner.
That said, we don't have a release date for the Galaxy 10.1 tablet, so in regards to the 'waiting game', I'd say that's it.
Android always wins over iOS for me. The hardware is almost secondary . Lots of 10" tablets on the horizon so personally wouldn't plunge right into the Xoom at the moment, but it's certainly the least worst large format tablet out there right now...
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It also does not have a standard port of any kind. No micro USB, no micro HDMI. Have fun buying adapters..also the oh so frequent updates Samsung is known for... wait..
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its a google experience device. theres no touchwiz, with virtually the same hardware (Tegra 2).
there won't be a problem updating this device (given that it will be unlockable/rootable, which most likely will be, but will confirm before purchasing).
as for the ports, i have no need for HDMI. theres rarely a time i need to connect a tablet to a monitor/TV. Again, this is my personal preference. No HDMI is not a dealbreaker for me. I never use the HDMI port on my droidx, i doubt ill need an HDMI port on my tablet.
there is no usb port, but USB is supported via charging port. in essence, a PC can recognize the tablet by using the charging port. i'm thinking this will most likely be a proprietary cable.
Of the two, I'd take the Xoom. I've owned an iPad when they first came out and sold it after three months. My biggest complaint with Apple is the file management system and lack of access to it. With Apple, if it doesn't sync through iTunes it's a pain in the butt. I love the fact that with my Xoom and my Incredible, I can browse it like a hard drive when hooked up to my PC, I can move folders/files around and have no issues. I love the fact I can change themes, my ROM, Kernel, etc. It provides the "end user" experience that I think any personal electronic device should. Moto Xoom all the way.
Xoom has a better web experience with the chrome stype browser and flash support. It also has much better versions of google apps such as maps, gmail, etc. The mutitasking is better and widgets are useful too. The Ipad2 is faster, more vibrant screen, better gaming device, sleeker, more app selection, etc. It depends on what's important to you. I'm on the fence myself and that's with the 25% discount. I don't pledge allegance to any device. The ipad2 is a very polished, well thought out machine. The price can't be beat from a hardware perspective. 30% thinner with better battery life and better performance than Xoom while costing less. Hardware wise there is no comparison. It flat out kicks butt on the Xoom. Software wise is another story. I much prefer Honeycomb. The only downside is that it will never be as smooth, fast, and efficient as IOS. We run bytecode due to Dalvik VM while they run native machine code. That gives them 20 to 30% more performance right off the bat even with everything else being equal. That's the price you pay for an open system that supports various hardware from different vendors versus writing an OS for specific hardware.
Anyway, sorry for posting the obvious. Just rambling.
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The Ipad2 is like a lexus, rock solid, uber reliable, intuitive and slick - but also somewhat numb to the feel (experience).The Xoom seems more like a Bimmer...more fun to drive, but also more tempermental.
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if you're making analogies, i prefer this one. Apple iOS is like Windows95, same old OS running for the past 10 years, while honeycomb is like Windows7.
there are many things to love about honeycomb/Xoom....
1. customizable display and widgets - e.g. Thumb Keyboard (MUST!! 5 star recommended)
2. folder management
3. No need for syncing with desktop or itunes (never had to connect to pc)
4. Widescreen (perfect for video playback)
5. Stereo speakers
6. awesome camera (even better than iphone4) - i'm a photographer lover
7. 4G LTE Speed
8. MicroSD card
9. 2x RAM
10. barometer
11. Free Google Services! gmail, maps, places, navigation, youtube, etc
12. free mobile hotspot
13. Encryption
14. better Notification system!
not in any particular order and there's probably more. and i dont find any problems reading outdoors at full brightness. I know i have difficulties using ipad outdoors even with full brightness.
Awesome feedback...I may try to sell this iPad while I can get more than retail for it.
This is just another stupid thread that should be locked.
You have both at the moment. Try them both and see which one you would like to keep. The end.
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Awesome feedback...I may try to sell this iPad while I can get more than retail for it.
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Its funny you ask this on a Xoom/Android dedicated place, go to an iPad hang out forum and you'll get the exact opposite response and answers.
One last follow-up...
What cool things would I get out of rooting the Xoom?
I was fortunate enough to get 25% coupon price and I can't believe it will get old any time soon. On the other hand I also am fortunate to be able to get the black 16gb Ipad 2. (Ordered). I understand that there's not much customization but I do look forward to the straight forward functioning of the I pad. While waiting, I've downloaded about 25 apps to iTunes and will sync when it arrives.
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honestly? Neither.
I really prefer honeycomb over ios. And honeycomb will be available on many different hardware.
Personally I'm waiting on the samsung galaxy 10.1. Its only 10 grams heavier than ipad2 and has better display and 8mp back camera.
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Yes but it doesn't have expandable memory, wont be uogradeable to 4G (biggest difference), both have the same processor and most of all it is built by samsung. I will never buy a samsung product for the rest of my life. To each his own. My hierarchy goes HTC then motorola and nothing else right now but that's just my opinion.
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For me the iPad isn't an option. Being tethered to their store is just not something I will do.
The apps will catch up. I can't the the iPad as being able to do anything the Xoom can't, but I can see the Xoom being able to do a many things the iPad cannot.
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Um, the original iPad is capable of doing multiple things the Xoom can't.
What do you mean tethered to their store?
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Um, the original iPad is capable of doing multiple things the Xoom can't
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Aside from a handful of apps that don't yet have a corresponding type of program on android, what capabilities are you referring to?
"Capabilities" are one of the areas that idevices will ALWAYS get buried in the big picture... whether or not someone wants an I pad for other reasons is another question... but it won't be capabilities
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if you're making analogies, i prefer this one. Apple iOS is like Windows95, same old OS running for the past 10 years, while honeycomb is like Windows7.
there are many things to love about honeycomb/Xoom....
1. customizable display and widgets - e.g. Thumb Keyboard (MUST!! 5 star recommended)
2. folder management
3. No need for syncing with desktop or itunes (never had to connect to pc)
4. Widescreen (perfect for video playback)
5. Stereo speakers
6. awesome camera (even better than iphone4) - i'm a photographer lover
7. 4G LTE Speed
8. MicroSD card
9. 2x RAM
10. barometer
11. Free Google Services! gmail, maps, places, navigation, youtube, etc
12. free mobile hotspot
13. Encryption
14. better Notification system!
not in any particular order and there's probably more. and i dont find any problems reading outdoors at full brightness. I know i have difficulties using ipad outdoors even with full brightness.
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I agree with all of those except camera... we need camera mods to make it nice... I don't use it much so I don't mind but it is blurry as hell... iphone produces decent "hdr" photos. Then again my n1 camera only became usable with cm camera mods. One more thing that you forgot to mention is the market... yeah I said it... I prefer android market to ios any day... why? Its not closed... and you don't have to type your password in every time you download something. The fact that you need to enter your password every download is ridiculous... it reminds me of a needy clingy girlfriend. Every time I play with my iPod I thank jebus that it isn't my handset.
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Um, the original iPad is capable of doing multiple things the Xoom can't.
What do you mean tethered to their store?
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Yeah like viewing any site you'd like and not the ones steve jobs lets you view.... or the fact that the first thing you need to do is plug it into your PC. Or playstation... or n64.. or video chat over 3g... or widgets... or non intrusive notifications... I think that's enough examples
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Hi everyone, I'm Rob and I'm an iPad user......
I'm thinking about getting rid of the iPad due to the complete ballache of getting media onto the thing (via the hateful iTunes), the ridiculous Apple locking down of apps and having to jailbreak it to do what I want. The last straw is Apple stopping you from using iBooks to access bought content if the iPad is jailbroken which worries me as to what they will do next...
Now, I have a Milestone running Cyanogen Gingerbread and it is great but I'm wondering what happens if I log into my Google account on both devices at the same time. What happens with the apps, can I use them on both devices, will they appear on both devices if I install from the Marketplace? If I delete one from my phone, will it delete form the Tab? So many questions
Has anyone done the same thnig and have you regretted it?
Normally Apps are associated with the Ident number of the Phone, which is how developers get round individuals using a single license on multiple devices.
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Normally Apps are associated with the Ident number of the Phone, which is how developers get round individuals using a single license on multiple devices.
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I've not found that at all thus far.
I have several Android devices, all linked to the same account, and all running mostly the same apps. The only times they don't, are when there is another level of activation (e.g. CoPilot).
Google do provide a mechanism for developers to lock down their applications to a single device if they wish (see here), but I've yet to encounter such an application.
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Dave
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I've not found that at all thus far.
I have several Android devices, all linked to the same account, and all running mostly the same apps. The only times they don't, are when there is another level of activation (e.g. CoPilot).
Google do provide a mechanism for developers to lock down their applications to a single device if they wish (see here), but I've yet to encounter such an application.
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Dave
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Okay, fair point Dave.
My findings are based mostly on the Medical Apps I have installed and yes, Co-Pilot as one other.
Thanks for the replies chaps. I think the iPad is going to be replaced.
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Thanks for the replies chaps. I think the iPad is going to be replaced.
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Now that.... I can easily concur with...
I can't remember the last time I switched on my i-Pad.
... and I'm looking forward to getting the New Galaxy Tab 2 to add to my Samsung collection (Galaxy S & Tab)
I love the iPad itself and hardly ever switch on the laptop but it is Apples attitude to the user that if you don't want to conform to their way, you are to be stopped and treated like a criminal.
Also, with the Tab, I'll be able to copy and paste movies, music and photos onto it easily from my NAS. The iPad photos are reduced in size when copying over. I have 20Gb of family photos and want the full size version rather than a cut down version as a portable backup.
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I love the iPad itself and hardly ever switch on the laptop but it is Apples attitude to the user that if you don't want to conform to their way, you are to be stopped and treated like a criminal.
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I'm a former Ipad user and what I can say is you will miss the polish.
Things I hate about my tab
1. Browser
2. Youtube app
3. Picture app
4. It plays multiple audio sources at the same time. The ipad would phase one source out should you play something else.
5. No audio controls in the notification bar
Thinks I love about my tab
1. Email
2. Downloading media directly to the device
3. Torrent apps - love that I can dl directly to the device.
4. Form factor - I never read a thing on my ipad, I found it to large to use in bed whereas the tab is perfect.
5. Customization of the os - the things you don't like you can change.
In the end the ipad is a better consumer product, the galaxy tab is still running software designed for a phone. While it is a strong contender it won't be fair to judge the tab until it gets apps designed specificly for it and a proper os.
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I'm a former Ipad user and what I can say is you will miss the polish.
Things I hate about my tab
1. Browser
2. Youtube app
3. Picture app
4. It plays multiple audio sources at the same time. The ipad would phase one source out should you play something else.
5. No audio controls in the notification bar
Thinks I love about my tab
1. Email
2. Downloading media directly to the device
3. Torrent apps - love that I can dl directly to the device.
4. Form factor - I never read a thing on my ipad, I found it to large to use in bed whereas the tab is perfect.
5. Customization of the os - the things you don't like you can change.
In the end the ipad is a better consumer product, the galaxy tab is still running software designed for a phone. While it is a strong contender it won't be fair to judge the tab until it gets apps designed specificly for it and a proper os.
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Why do you hate the YouTube app? I think its much better than the ipad version.
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Why do you hate the YouTube app? I think its much better than the ipad version.
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Oh the app is okay but I felt the ipad offered higher resolutions. The videos always looked sharp as they do on a computer. On my tab a lot of videos look blurry.
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I hated ipad YouTube app it would always stutter when playing videos while the tab is smooth sailing. I do agree that stock browser sucks though.
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I was in the same boat - former iPad user. I have to say that the iPad certainly is more polished as a tablet (too many times Galaxy Tab acts like a giant phone), but I wound never go back. The size, the customization, and ability to do anything I want with it is a huge plus for me.
I do hope that at some point we will get a good port of Honeycomb, but not holding my breath. Gingerbread sure would be nice though, running it now on my Nexus One and I really like it.
you can have all your purchased apps on every device that meets the software requirements, as long as every device has the same gmail account on them.
and for the ipad....
what I love about my Gtab is the size, as other had mentioned, it's perfect for reading and holding with one hand
Im kindly sad that Samsung is going to the 10.1 inches race, although that's much better for browsing webpages than 7 inches.
In my Opinion (IMO) you should consider the LG Optimus pad if you want the best of both worlds, the size is smaller than the ipad (8.9") but at the same time is better for portability and reading like the Gtab
I agree the best device will be the LG tablet simply for the form factor.
I recall only bringing my ipad to work and using it at home. The tab goes everywhere because it fits in a pocket.
On another note if you get a gtab don't get the cdma version, its barely supported by the xda community.
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Yup agreed no problems using same account and apps on four devices i use daily.
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5. No audio controls in the notification bar
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Spoke to soon the sprint update adds audio controls in the notification bar. Thank god
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Thanks for all the feedback guys. Good to hear from ex iPad users who don't regret going to the Tab.
Already being an Android user (G1, Magic, Milestone), I know what to expect from the OS itself and love the customisability and community efforts, just wish I had the coding skills that some people on XDA have.
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Oh the app is okay but I felt the ipad offered higher resolutions. The videos always looked sharp as they do on a computer. On my tab a lot of videos look blurry.
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I think it's the other way around. The iPad's own resolution is low, so regular youtube videos look good. But the G-Tab's higher resolution makes regular youtube videos look bad. If you choose "HQ" streams in youtube, the videos look fine on the G-Tab.
The Tab is 1024x600 whereas the iPad is 1024x768 so the iPad is higher res.
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The Tab is 1024x600 whereas the iPad is 1024x768 so the iPad is higher res.
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Hmmm. but the size is different? 7" vs. 10"? Perhaps then it's the density that makes the difference?
Kinda curious since I'm gonna be getting one of the above next month what do you guys think about the iPad 2 vs the Xoom?
I have a Xoom right now and love it...just needs some apps. I wasnt terribly impressed with the ipad update - the hardware is nice but no updates to IOS, that was severly lame. Honeycomb is far more useful on a tab...but without apps it will suffer. They should have released the SDK sooner.
I definitely agree with you on the apps for the Xoom, I dunno though I think the Xoom is probably a bit more useful but I don't really like the UI that much.
Also I think the iPad has better multimedia support so I might go with that I'm not sure yet.
Xoom > iPad
I am taking the ipod 2. Not enough tablet apps is a big issue (100 odd vs 65,000 is easy too big a gap). I want android to win but my wallet also won't go for a more expensive tablet either. And I want a wifi only version of the xoom since I wanted to tether it. I'm not going to pay for a data plan twice.
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I agree with Khanam
I agree with him too. I'm not getting one till the end of April but still at the moment for me personally apps, multimedia support, and I don't really like the UI of honeycomb as much as I like the iPad's at the moment.
Agreed. I'll probably end up buying an iPad 2, but might sell it if the Android Tablet App Market really starts to take off. What's the point of the tablet if I can't use it like I want to use it? I want Honeycomb to succeed though, but I am not going to be an early adopter in this particular segment.
I have a 64GB WiFi iPad and the apps make or break a device. You can have better specs, and even a better OS. But without quality apps, the device will suffer.
Some of the apps I use on a daily basis on my iPad are Pages (Wonderful full blown word processing app), Penultimate (Notes), Evernote (Notes again), and of course some games, like Infinity Blade (Amazing graphics!)
I won't be upgrading to an iPad 2, possibly the third generation if it has the rumored "retina" display. It would take some powerful hardware to pump out graphics at that resolution. And an amazing battery for that matter. Speaking of battery, it was the #1 reason I went with the iPad. I can easily make it through an entire school day and come home with 80% left My Incredible, not so much. It usually ends up at 30%.
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Xoom > iPad
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great post
I was going to get a xoom, I want to get a xoom. But as everyone else has stated, without apps, what good is it? If the Android Tablet Market takes off within the next couple of months, I may go with it, if not, I believe I will be getting an iPad 2. I am against everything Apple, but when they come out with a quality piece of electronics, and it is supported correctly... well you can't argue with that.
Love my DroidX.
I have a NookColor (rooted).
Buying an iPad2. Full HDMI mirroring for everything. iTunes DRM so I can play my digital copy movies. I don't want to pay for a 3G radio when I'll tether to my DroidX. This made a lot of the decision for men.
lol I forgot about DRM I have a significant number of songs with DRM.
On a side note white or black iPad.
the white one reminds me of old macbooks... which look kinda gross after about a year of use.
Black ipad 2 for me.
Also, I am going to wait until HTC makes me the tablet of my dreams before I jump on the honeycomb train. HTC Flyer 2, anyone?
I am in th same boat. What to do
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I thought about the white getting dirty too but I might still try it if the screen protector covers the white portion as well.
I am personally going with the ipad 2 wifi (tether, not paying data twice) because of support in general, especially apps. Plus that way I can experience both iOS and android apps. And finally a relative has the xoom so anytime I need to I can use it
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i have the option to get the iphone with verizon and have no desire to play with that OS. it is outdated and less functional.. for the same reason, i have no desire to get a larger version of it... just doesnt do it for me.. then again... i am not so sure i like this whole tablet craze anyway... id rather a nice laptop.. touch screens are nice, but type this current post on a tablet and tell me you still want one... just doesnt interest me.
To me Android will always be better for me than anything apple. Its more about what i can do with the product I buy. I want to root/reflash and customize and with an android device thats an ez task. Apple locks everything down so a geek like me cant "play" enough. Ill take an ipad2 running android to piss off apple lovers anyday XD
ipad all the way
Xoom all the way. Both are to expensive tho
Getting my Acer TF Tuesday night 500.00, yea I know 100 over but cant find it anywhere, but I am noticing all these issues is it not worth getting, because Im on the Fence about getting a IPAD 2, someone needs to convince me to get the Asus instead.
I sent my Iconia back to BB.
Thanks
I have an iPad 2, and once you get the transformer you will understand instantly why the transformer is better
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I have an iPad 2, and once you get the transformer you will understand instantly why the transformer is better
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so I wont be disappointed with the T F
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so I wont be disappointed with the T F
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I am not, and I have both
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I am not, and I have both
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IM a big movie watcher and sling box. is the screen as nice as they say.
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so I wont be disappointed with the T F
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iPad UI is slightly smoother than honeycomb (HC is still really nice though, haven't had choppiness or lag so far) but widgets will always win over plain icons on my iPad.
The software loaded on the E3T (myLibrary, myZine, myNet, @Vibe, Polaris Office) work really well and since I read a lot it's quite handy. The slight modification to the UI (custom home/back/recent tasks/menu) icons are an improvement and any other changes they've made have all been for the better.
Yes the iPad has more apps, but I haven't had that much need for that many apps since most things you'll do are already included and mostly work well.
The screen is on par with my iPad 2, and better resolution/dpi, besides reading on 16:10 in portrait is a lot nicer than 4:3, and a lot nicer for watching shows/movies opposed to 4:3.
seshmaru said:
iPad UI is slightly smoother than honeycomb (HC is still really nice though, haven't had choppiness or lag so far) but widgets will always win over plain icons on my iPad.
The software loaded on the E3T (myLibrary, myZine, myNet, @Vibe, Polaris Office) work really well and since I read a lot it's quite handy. The slight modification to the UI (custom home/back/recent tasks/menu) icons are an improvement and any other changes they've made have all been for the better.
Yes the iPad has more apps, but I haven't had that much need for that many apps since most things you'll do are already included and mostly work well.
The screen is on par with my iPad 2, and better resolution/dpi, besides reading on 16:10 in portrait is a lot nicer than 4:3, and a lot nicer for watching shows/movies opposed to 4:3.
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thanks for the quick review you convinced me.
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After having a discussion with an iFanboy the other night, the only excuse we could come up with for getting an iPad over the TF is if you already have all apple products for the integration. In short... get the Transformer.
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After having a discussion with an iFanboy the other night, the only excuse we could come up with for getting an iPad over the TF is if you already have all apple products for the integration. In short... get the Transformer.
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i agree with this. Having extra cables and chargers is really nice. also if you already bought apps on itunes then you wouldnt have to pay for them again on android.
I ordered both iPad and Tf. Keeping tf. In time both honeycomb and apps will catch up. Very quickly.
Does iTunes run on Linux?
I rest my case.
Itunes will not run naively on linux. You might get the windows version running under wine or in an virtual machine.
I have a new policy. I do not buy a product that has no Linux support.
To play devil's advocate ... the iPad 2 has a smoother UI than the Transformer (which will hopefully change soon) and if you download an app, it will likely work, even if it's in a small iPhone-esque window. Some Android phone apps will not work in Honeycomb. There's also a buttload of accessories, more developer support for apps, and a better chance that your tablet will be upgraded to the latest iOS without having to rely on forces outside the manufacturer.
But I'd still never own one. Glorified app launcher, I don't think it's a true tablet like the Honeycomb tabs. I'd get bored pretty quickly. But for someone who wants that experience (say, my parents, my sister, a coworker who finds Android confusing), I have no problem recommending it.
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After having a discussion with an iFanboy the other night, the only excuse we could come up with for getting an iPad over the TF is if you already have all apple products for the integration. In short... get the Transformer.
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I already had an iPhone and this was the deciding factor in me returning the Asus for an ipad2.
My father uses an iPad (3g). I think it is a very nice piece of technology, but I prefer the Transformer because it has the keyboard add-on.
I currently use a Macbook Pro and it is too heavy to take with me to classes. I plan on using the tablet + keyboard combo for university. It is light-weight and the memory is expandable.
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My father uses an iPad (3g). I think it is a very nice piece of technology, but I prefer the Transformer because it has the keyboard add-on.
I currently use a Macbook Pro and it is too heavy to take with me to classes. I plan on using the tablet + keyboard combo for university. It is light-weight and the memory is expandable.
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Remember to get drag and drop on OSX you need to get android file manager from the android website.
There is literally a world of reasons, but this is my main one...
The ipad runs a cell phone operating system while ASUS runs an actual tablet OS. While honeycomb isn't quite as smooth as ios when the next few updates arrive it will be far superior. We have an OS specified for tablets while the ipad has the same old crap on it... It is literally just a big iphone.
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There is literally a world of reasons, but this is my main one...
The ipad runs a cell phone operating system while ASUS runs an actual tablet OS. While honeycomb isn't quite as smooth as ios when the next few updates arrive it will be far superior. We have an OS specified for tablets while the ipad has the same old crap on it... It is literally just a big iphone.
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Let's not be inaccurate here to a fault. The iPad does not run a "cell phone operating system". There are slight differences between iOS for iPhones/iPod touch and iPad. Just because they look alike or are similar does not mean that iPads run the exact same operating system as an iPhone and iPod Touch. Last i checked, you couldn't load iPhone OS on an iPad or vice versa.
One can say that Android tablets are big versions of android phones as well. Just like there are apps that run on iPads only, there are apps that run on HC tablets only.
I own the iPad2 16GB WIFI (my very first apple product) ... been a pro-Linux / Anti-MSFT / Anti-AAPL guy for a long time. Given that ... take the next few bullets FWIW ..
CONS -
- The iPad2 's dependence on iTunes-PC tether
- The lack of ext. SD support .. a major downer for someone with a 16gb tablet.
- expensive accessories
- not hackable at all (as of now)
- yet another Apple product worshipped by the clan.
PROS -
- The display is gorgeous (videos and pictures look stunning). Screen rotations are quick and fast.
- Most websites that require flash ... interestingly, also have free iPad apps that play video just fine (i.e. CNN / HBO / CBS / ABC etc. etc. etc.)
- The battery truly runs 10+ hrs (even with moderate to heavy use)
- The battery truly does not run out when the unit is on standby. I close the smart cover in the night at (say) 50% ... the next day morning its at 49% ... and during the night it has also downloaded my emails (i.e. wifi stays on).
- Apps rarely bog down the iPad.
- Never had any lockups or reboots.
MOST IMPORTANT PROS
- Availability of apps. Its shocking how many native iPad apps there are. Almost every well-known company has an app on the iPad. TIVO has an app on the iPad. I doubt TIVO has the necessary resources to build a similar one for the Android. Also ... the iPad and the iPad2 have identical aspect ratios and screen resolutions making life really easy for software developers. Android Tablets will come in all flavors and aspect ratios causing major headaches for developers. To make matters difficult, schools and other institutions are buying iPads ... make it a more lucrative option for developers.
I am waiting for the Transformer to ship (on pre-order status @ Amazon and Target). Its going to be interesting.
I'm on fence on whether to buy a Motorola Xoom (32GB WiFi EU) or an iPad 2. In terms of price, here in Malta the Xoom seems more worth it as I can get it for 498 euro whilst the iPad 2 Wifi 32GB is at 609.
My main concerns are regarding software, and more importantly, apps availability. Now, before you bash my question, I've read a lot of reviews for both devices, and I've gone through lists for Honeycomb apps, but I'd like input from actual Xoom owners that are using it day to day.
Thanks in advance,
Emmanuel
well email and surfing is alot more fun and productive on a Xoom compare to an Ipad2 because of the integrated email and the flash enabled full size browser experience
but if you look at the build quality of them it sure looks like the Ipad2 went thought a lot more intensive QA then the Xoom since on the back of the xoom you kind of able to push in the plastic a bit.... thats makes me a sad panda
anyway comparing xoom vs ipad 2... there is only one logical answer
android =widgets
IOS = no widgets
and with widgets you get your information a lot faster like news, socks and twitter on one page... so yeah and i do use that alot
productivity = xoom
build quality = ipad2
that said i still think the ipad2 really rocks since it's a finished product but it does not have the widgets
I've owned an iPad and now I own a XOOM. For me personally, the ipad doesn't come close - the OS is far too restrictive and the dependency on iTunes was a killer for me (I use linux on all of my home machines, forcing me to run a windows virtual machine just to activate the damned thing).
With that said, the XOOM, or rather, Honeycomb doesn't even come close with regards to app availability. Even if you take the huge headstart that apple have (1 year+), the ipad has simply always been better marketed and there are a lot more apps available. Let's not even get started on the android market place; it's dire. The worst. And for some reason, it's even worse on honeycomb than it is on phones; no ability to rate apps, plenty of bugs (some of which have been addressed in 3.1), no ability to view only tablet apps, terrible filtering and search in general, etc. Apple's app store is how it should be done, the android market place has a long way to come.
The situation is improving for honeycomb and I personally wouldn't dream of going back to the ipad, but for friends and family who couldn't care less about the restrictive nature of iOS and the other things that I dislike, I would recommend the ipad.
With all that said, it looks really weird to see me almost recommending Apple, because I personally can't stand the software. Oh well...
Well, I've never owned an I pad but I have just purchased the xoom and I LOVE it!!!
Most comparisions regard the xoom better, but with the I pad having loads more apps - to some people, this is the deal breaker.
However, if you want a true tablet experience and not just an oversized iPod touch, then go for the xoom.
The xoom has better OS, greater browser and keyboard, better cameras and support flash, it is also not tied down to any PC software such as iTunes and includes more customization options such as widgits. (Android includes a free turn by turn navigation system too)
Oh and the maps and YouTube apps are better on the xoom and have more features (Google property pays off)
I made my decision and I'm happy with my xoom - but the choice is yours.
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I have to disagree. I think the xoom build quality is top notch and better than the iPad. It's just when I hold the iPad I feel like it will break... to thin for my liking.
Now applications look better in my opinion on the iPad. Like it was mentioned here the Apple eco system keeps me away.
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I have owned an iPad, and will likely own an iPad 2 when the current shortage lets up. There is very little left to say about the iPad (either version) that hasn't been said already. They are exceptional devices, gamechangers, perfectly designed to introduce mobile technology to mainstream users. Almost anyone can be up and running in 15 minutes with an iPad, even with no experience and iOS rewards those who embrace its deliberate limitations.
My first experience with Android was with an Archos 5 tablet, and then an Archos 101. I bought both as relatively inexpensive ways to get acquainted with Android. and both were very frustrating experiences in different ways. They really made me begin to view Android as a very niche market.
However, when I needed a new phone and decided that I couldn't wait for a Windows Phone 7 device to be offered here, and refused to get an iPhone, I opted for the Galaxy s and a whole world opened up to me...which then led me to my new Xoom.
I have been playing with it for about half a day now after doing a great deal of reading...I unlocked it, tried to root it and ran into the "stuck on the red M" problem, spent about 2 hours reading and sorting out how to get myself out of the trap via adb, rooted it at last, installed CWM then flashed the Tiamat kernel and finally began loading up my apps. Loved every moment of it. The build quality of the device, in my opinion, is excellent. It feels much better and more substantial in my hands than the iPad. The screen is top notch and I really like the honeycomb environment for work and play.
Most of all, I like the fact that Android is a living, breathing OS. SO much to explore and learn and investigate.
The iPad, for all it's many good points, as I said before rewards those who embrace its limitations. The Xoom rewards those who refuse limitations, who are willing to spend the time and effort to learn how it works and discover ways to do it better.
The iPad is the USS Enterprise...sleek and beautiful but cold and a bit sterile for all its power. What you see is what you get.
The Xoom is the Tardis...a hodgepodge of history and possibility, all wrapped in a shell of sweet wonder....and it is bigger on the inside.
With a Xoom I could have never ever owned a PC and set it up and get it working. It does not require you to hook it up to itunes first. With the iPad... yea I dont know about 15 minutes but after you hook it up to your computer to unlock it (lol) you can finally use it. In my house we have both, I like the Xoom better
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"The iPad, for all it's many good points, as I said before rewards those who embrace its limitations. The Xoom rewards those who refuse limitations, who are willing to spend the time and effort to learn how it works and discover ways to do it better."
I couldn't have said it better. The Xoom is my third Android tablet, my second Tegra2 tab, and the most hands-on and most rewarding and fun to own. I have never liked the Apple zeitgeist and have always avoided that product. I prefer the freedom to mess around, get into scrapes and come back from the brink with a better tab and a lot more knowledge. I think that as an open source, Android will continue to grow and evolve in wonderful ways and I want to be along for the ride.
Also, this thing is built like a tank.
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The iPad is the USS Enterprise...sleek and beautiful but cold and a bit sterile for all its power. What you see is what you get.
The Xoom is the Tardis...a hodgepodge of history and possibility, all wrapped in a shell of sweet wonder....and it is bigger on the inside.
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That made me giggle . But I think the ipad are like the dalek. Cold personality and desire only perfection. seek only to dominate the world!
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That made me giggle . But I think the ipad are like the dalek. Cold personality and desire only perfection. seek only to dominate the world!
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Steve Jobs as Davros ...*shudder*
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i'll keep this short as can be...
iPad/iOs = Checkers.
Xoom/Honeycomb = Chess.
I have played around with both Ipad and Xoom. I currently own a Xoom. Ipad is probably fine if you want something simple with few options(not talking about apps).
The Xoom is pretty cool, and even cooler after unlock & root. The downside is app / game availability, but it's getting better every day.
The killer for me between the two is multitasking. The xoom has it, the ipad not so much.
And also, no itunes. The xoom works out of the box.
The Ipad on the other hand has more accessories, wee..
Keep in mind that these sorts of issues are ultimately a matter of taste, so the things I don't like the iPad may not bother you at all.
I bought an iPad2 and returned it within 48 hours. I really can't explain my utter contempt for that device, but I just hated everything about it. I'm not an Apple hater, mind you; I owned every iPhone through the 3GS and was one of those dorks standing in line on launch days. I really, really wanted to like the iPad 2, but after having owned two Android handsets (and being a big gadget whore) I couldn't stomach going back to an iOS product.
What I hated about the iPad 2:
-Screen resolution sucks
-Too thin and flimsy feeling
-Stock keyboard is HORRIBLE and there's no way to change it
-No widgets
-No UI customization, period
-Cameras suck
-"Notification system" is sort of a joke
-"Multi-tasking" is also sort of a joke
-Far higher cost for iPad apps vs. iPhone/iPod apps, developers nickel & dime you for every little thing (subscriptions, in-app purchases, etc) - seriously, the whole ecosystem was like a giant money sucking vacuum
-QA on my particular unit was terrible - massive light leaks around the edges of the screen and 3 stuck pixels within 1 day of use (and this is not an isolated issue, though Apple is replacing defective units but making sure to blame their supplier)
iOS is getting long in the tooth, and this is hugely magnified in tablet form, especially with the crappy-looking display. I felt like I was using old technology, despite the awesome internal specs. The best comparison I can come up with between Honeycomb and iOS on a tablet is something like Windows 7 compared to Windows 3.1.
hello,
i'm maltese too, on a xoom us wifi .. from amazon.com
worked out to 508 eu including hsbc's 'conversion charge' of 8 eu or so.
ipad vs xoom.. depends on what you need.
if you want a platform to play stuff from itunes.. ipad
if yiu want a portable computer you can meddle with.... xoom of course.
build quality, screen and battery life are excellent too.
cheers
btw where is that price from?
when i bought mine it was closer to 600eu for wifi eu
which is why i got the us one..
While I will state now I am no expert on iOS or the Ipad1/2 I will say this:
My Xoom has me constantly entertained and I've NEVER felt I needed an app that I didnt have at least 4 decent choices of. I have also never left limited on my Xoom for any tasks I wish to undertake, I stream all my media from my computer (via WiFi OR 3G) so everywhere I am I have access to all my media (and now thanks to Google Music moreso) and with Remote Desktop I have access to my Linux and Windows machines no matter where I am. The Xoom constantly feeds me information without having to do anything but look at my homescreens.
I have played with friends Ipad1/2's and while for the most part things seemed smooth and work well I always had this feeling of being lost when looking through the app screens, its like all the icons look the same (same size, many of them same colors) just felt very sterile and un-enjoyable and you get ZERO information without going from one app to another just felt like so much work for simple basic information readily available on my Xoom.
I've never been a fan of iOS or Apple's strategy towards their customers but I really tried to look at my 2 options without bias before choosing my Xoom. As several others are stated you really dont have any choices with Apple products, you take what your given and if you dont like your options you dont have any more to look at.
Android (despite its fragmentation in some areas and flaws, hiccups in others) is the best choice if you like options and a desire to learn more and have real options with your chosen device. If you want something simple that tells you what you want then Apple products are for you. If you dont mind a hiccup with something here and there and having the ultimate say in the apps and add-on parts for your device then I say without a doubt Android is the way to go. Widgets are the best thing to happen to phones/tablets as it gives you so much information without having to do anything to get it and you can always enter into that app for a more detailed look and more options.
As for the comment on Apple App Store having more options, maybe it does but judging by the amount the Android Market has grown over 1 year I highly doubt Apple will be able to say the same thing next year. More and more developers either jump ship from Apples restrictions in apps or choose to release their products on both Android and iOS platforms which means in many cases the Apple App Store is slowing down and stagnating in some areas due to the open nature of app development for Android OS, its infinitely easier to write and sell and app for Android than iOS.
As a side note a friend of mine and I compared apps, we both had some niche apps and some common ones... my total cost was about $40 (like I said I have some apps that cost about $15, my phone apps only had a grand total of like $10) but all in all his total for all similar (sometimes the same app) was about $200, that alone pushed my decision for another android device with the Xoom vs Ipad2.
If your cheap and want to hack get the Xoom. If you want to easily be able get VIDEOS to play fluently for rent or TV episodes get iPad. I got the ipad because it was so gay to get Videos on the thing. Having to convert then drag to device verse iTunes makes iTunes seem easier. Especially is JB.
Xoom =iPad none is clear winner
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If your cheap and want to hack get the Xoom. If you want to easily be able get VIDEOS to play fluently for rent or TV episodes get iPad. I got the ipad because it was so gay to get Videos on the thing. Having to convert then drag to device verse iTunes makes iTunes seem easier. Especially is JB.
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I am not sure I would call the Xoom cheap (not in build quality and certainly not in price) and I don't see what the sexual orientation of the iPad has to do with the issue.
I feel the video converting question is a non issue. For me, converting via iTunes or by a third party app is just as big a pain, and the iPad's native video app is even more limited codec-wise than the Android stock Video. Anyway, just use a player like MoboPlayer or VPlayer which can show pretty much anything, and you are golden.
However I agree that there is no real BEST TABLET...it is just a matter of personal preference.
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If your cheap and want to hack get the Xoom. If you want to easily be able get VIDEOS to play fluently for rent or TV episodes get iPad. I got the ipad because it was so gay to get Videos on the thing. Having to convert then drag to device verse iTunes makes iTunes seem easier. Especially is JB.
Xoom =iPad none is clear winner
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So spend more money for the more restrictive device? Also, you don't have to hack the xoom. The Xoom has more option out of the box than the ipad.
You didn't manage to get gay videos on the Xoom?
Croolis said:
btw where is that price from?
when i bought mine it was closer to 600eu for wifi eu
which is why i got the us one..
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It's on www.expansys.com.mt, excluding VAT.
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i'm about to purchase a new tablet and i have issues deciding which tablet i want. i would like the ipad because it can run at least 95% of the apps in the app store. i like the iconia because it has built in hdmi port, usb port,external microsd,and a lot more features with in the os. but i'm afraid that most of the apps i want or need will either be not available or won't be compatible with honeycomb. Either or i like the way the acer looks and the price is cheaper than the ipad. i have an android phone Samsung Vibrant 4G and i'v had the iphone before...which is the reason why i'm debating on which tablet i want. i've seen youtube videos regarding the ipad vs the iconia but its not enough for me to make my decision. I much rather ask the experts and users of xda to get the final desicion. so what should it be?
Easy answer.
Which do you want, Android or iOS?
Only you can answer that.
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Easy answer.
Which do you want, Android or iOS?
Only you can answer that.
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+1 to this. Which one do you want, and why? Give us some more info about what you actually want to do with your tablet - this will help us know what to recommend.
Need Adobe Flash support? Would be my first question. Need expandable storage?
iPad 2. Currently the only tablet worth 500 bucks. This is coming from a guy who kinda hates Apple.
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i would like the ipad because it can run at least 95% of the apps in the app store.
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So far, all android 2.x apps i've tried are working on android 3.x
The two problems are
* they are not necessarily compatible with the resolution of the tablets
* the app UI might have been designed for smartphone use (small screen, mobility)
Regarding the resolution issue, android 3.2 is fixing this by adding the new "compatibility zoom" feature (not tried yet, still waiting acer to release android 3.2 on the iconia )
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i'm about to purchase a new tablet and i have issues deciding which tablet i want. i would like the ipad because it can run at least 95% of the apps in the app store. i like the iconia because it has built in hdmi port, usb port,external microsd,and a lot more features with in the os. but i'm afraid that most of the apps i want or need will either be not available or won't be compatible with honeycomb. Either or i like the way the acer looks and the price is cheaper than the ipad. i have an android phone Samsung Vibrant 4G and i'v had the iphone before...which is the reason why i'm debating on which tablet i want. i've seen youtube videos regarding the ipad vs the iconia but its not enough for me to make my decision. I much rather ask the experts and users of xda to get the final desicion. so what should it be?
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I was in the fix like you when i was buying tablet, i opted for iconia but i am regretting now. Iconia is not at the fault but apps, cause not many apps are available for bigger screen.
That's why go for IPAD 2, it has so many more applications.
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iPad 2. Currently the only tablet worth 500 bucks. This is coming from a guy who kinda hates Apple.
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Why? I assume you do not require Adobe flash support. More details, plz
I've got both, and switch between them regularly. There are some things the iPad2 can do that the Acer cannot (some Citrix connectivity with my company), there are some things the iPad2 simply does better (WiFi reception, battery life). Then, there are places where it's a toss up. Then there are things like widgets and ability to control my user experience through settings, root applications, etc. that Acer delivers on. The SD card and USB ports are, of course, in Acer's favor.
On the whole, I find myself reaching for the Acer more often through the day, unless I know that the iPad is necessary, or if the Acer's battery is low. This, however, might be because I've owned an iPad (1 or 2) since early in the iPad's life (not the launch of 1, but close) and I've only had the Acer for a month, so there's a newness/novelty to it. The experimentation with ROMs, kernels, etc. also keeps the Acer more interesting from a tweaker's perspective, of course.
The Acer provides homescreens that are much more useful through their customization and dynamic screen content. The iPad gives an overall smoother interaction. Typing on onscreen keyboards goes to the iPad, I think, despite using SwiftKey, which offers word prediction, etc.
Screens are pretty similar in my uses, although the Acer is glossier(glare) and shows fingerprints more readily.
If I had to choose only one at this time, and money was not an issue, I'd probably stick with the iPad2.
Note, I use an Android phone, but I don't know that the integration is really better in one over another, using gmail and corporate accounts and calendars. In my situation, my corporate account did require the use of a third party exchange application due to some weird security issues. This may change if you were using an iPhone with iOS 5 coming with the iCloud system, who knows. But, if you had an iPhone, I would guess you'd already be heading to the Apple store.
i must say the acer changed my opinion of android tablets. Its fantastic! I bought mine second hand on craigs list. Well worth it.
After rooting the usb ports support all my usb drives, keyboards and anything else that ive tried. Thr battery life leaves something to be desired, but its still good enough.
Its my remote for xbmc, managing utorrent on my server and just putzing around on the web.
Im sold on the acer. Get the 16GB with the 100 dollar gift card and you will love it.
I also have groove ip installed and can make and receive phonecalls without having to find woorkarounds to make it work.
I have used ipads, just not enough to judge them. I did have a touch 4g but was never pleased with what it took to get it set up to do what this does.
I also love rooting and flashing different rom.
I have use of both via work, and have also used both for work and for home. They both have their strong points and weaknesses. I also use Citrix for access to work applications - multiple times per day - and I actually prefer the Iconia with 3.1 over the iPad 2 for this purpose.
IPad certainly has more apps, and some are phenomenally good value (including Apple's own ported apps like Garage Band). Some are mediocre, and quite a few are poor. In real life, however, unless you collect apps just for the number you own, most things can be done with either tablet.
The clincher for me is Steve Jobs personal aversion to Flash and Java. One of the main cloud-based professional apps I use is written in Flash. With the iPad2, my only work around that works (but very slowly) is to VPN into either the office Mac or one of the PC's. The Iconia runs it natively, quickly and effortlessly.
For entertainment, the Iconia won't easily run Netflix yet (it is possible via a hack only), but it effortlessly streams media from my home media server (Serviio on Ubuntu server, on an $70 Intel Atom board), including video, pictures and music. The iPad won't work with it (though it will with some other servers).
The Iconia scores hands down on connectivity. USB input/output. HDMI out without dongles. SD card expansion without dongles and with far les limitations on use. Bluetooth that will connect with stereo headphones, keyboards, mice and other devices while the iPad2 Bluetooth is deliberately crippled to not allow serial devices without jailbreaking and add-on apps from Cydia. That includes no normal Bluetooth GPS connectivity, and the iPad 2 doesn't have one built in (Iconia does).
Although I use an iMac much more than I use Windows, I find the reliance on iTunes for everything concerning interconnection really annoying (though there are ways to work around it, if you look hard). You even needed a PC with iTunes to wake up the darned iPad 2 when it arrived...
So it depends what you really want, and what you need. Personally, I'm finding that I carry the Iconia a lot more than the iPad2.
Kevin
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I've got both.
It depends on what you need.
If you want to put kb/mouse onto it, then Iconia.
Ports isn't THAT big an issue cos u can get attachments that give u hdmi out etc on iPad 2.
If you want to do weird and crazy things, then Android.
If you are a 'normal' user (ie surf, read, tunes etc), then iPad by a million miles.
Much much much nicer experience on iPad2 for everyday use.
Working with my Acer Iconia since one week. Never want to miss a fully functional USB Port. You can do so much more than with ordinary Tablet PCs or the Ipad .
Best regards, maris
MrBoingy said:
I've got both.
It depends on what you need.
If you want to put kb/mouse onto it, then Iconia.
Ports isn't THAT big an issue cos u can get attachments that give u hdmi out etc on iPad 2.
If you want to do weird and crazy things, then Android.
If you are a 'normal' user (ie surf, read, tunes etc), then iPad by a million miles.
Much much much nicer experience on iPad2 for everyday use.
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I disagree on the 'normal' usage being better on the ipad. Surfing without flash and the need to sync your media through itunes makes both a poor experience. At least poorer than with the iconia.
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For those considering battery life : remember the iconia is almost 100€ cheaper and got a LOT more connectivity than the ipad 2. And I heard about Acer lowering the price soon.
The lack of flash player and the inability to sync media without itunes makes the ipad2 worst than the iconia for me.
MrBoingy said:
I've got both.
It depends on what you need.
If you want to put kb/mouse onto it, then Iconia.
Ports isn't THAT big an issue cos u can get attachments that give u hdmi out etc on iPad 2.
If you want to do weird and crazy things, then Android.
If you are a 'normal' user (ie surf, read, tunes etc), then iPad by a million miles.
Much much much nicer experience on iPad2 for everyday use.
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IMO
If you want boring interface get an ipad
If you already spent a ton of money on apps through iTunes get a ipad
If you plan on using the web browser get an android (I remember the joy I experienced with my ipad when trying to browse to local business web pages and not being able to see anything)
If your not using iTunes to buy overpriced music get an android
If your business requires Skype calling maybe you should get an ipad. (Guess Skype figures android tablets don't want the support)
If you want to buy extra dongle to use USB devices you already own get an ipad (sorry the USB port is a big deal to me)
If your a normal user get an android more out of the box support by a million miles
If you want to video chat with family members that only have a computer and webcam get android atleast with gmail in the browser they won't have to buy only one type of computer(which is ten times easier to get going then having mom trying to install software when your not around to do it for her)
If you want hook your tablet up to the tv by only using a five dollar cable get android
If you might prefer a seven inch tablet get an android
If you want to mange files on your tablet with a computer then get an ipad (perhaps someone can inform me been awhile since I used an apple product are users allowed to delete music of phone\tablet without the use of iTunes)
If you love excel spreadsheet and want that kind of experience get something you use can use iTunes for
If your already on XDA and know your way around adb and stuff get an android
If you want reply on message boards and claim that android are only good for doing crazy weird things then get an ipad
All and all the two major platforms are becoming more the same anywho. Android just meet all my minimum requirements where the ipad did not
In the end you need to decide for your self if your work has requirements well I say make them buy you whatever they require. I myself have been burnt by apple to many times and all apple users I personally know act like asshats about their device(most of the time getting excited about features already available on other platforms)
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Is it just me? Where did OP go? Maybe he got an ipad already.
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whooda said:
I also have groove ip installed and can make and receive phonecalls without having to find woorkarounds to make it work.
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How's the quality?
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BrianDigital said:
IMO
If you want boring interface get an ipad
If you already spent a ton of money on apps through iTunes get a ipad
If you plan on using the web browser get an android (I remember the joy I experienced with my ipad when trying to browse to local business web pages and not being able to see anything)
If your not using iTunes to buy overpriced music get an android
If your business requires Skype calling maybe you should get an ipad. (Guess Skype figures android tablets don't want the support)
If you want to buy extra dongle to use USB devices you already own get an ipad (sorry the USB port is a big deal to me)
If your a normal user get an android more out of the box support by a million miles
If you want to video chat with family members that only have a computer and webcam get android atleast with gmail in the browser they won't have to buy only one type of computer(which is ten times easier to get going then having mom trying to install software when your not around to do it for her)
If you want hook your tablet up to the tv by only using a five dollar cable get android
If you might prefer a seven inch tablet get an android
If you want to mange files on your tablet with a computer then get an ipad (perhaps someone can inform me been awhile since I used an apple product are users allowed to delete music of phone\tablet without the use of iTunes)
If you love excel spreadsheet and want that kind of experience get something you use can use iTunes for
If your already on XDA and know your way around adb and stuff get an android
If you want reply on message boards and claim that android are only good for doing crazy weird things then get an ipad
All and all the two major platforms are becoming more the same anywho. Android just meet all my minimum requirements where the ipad did not
In the end you need to decide for your self if your work has requirements well I say make them buy you whatever they require. I myself have been burnt by apple to many times and all apple users I personally know act like asshats about their device(most of the time getting excited about features already available on other platforms)
Sent from my A500 using xda premium
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Haha, you can imagine the froth forming at this fanboy's mouth!
I'd reply in an equally rabid fashion if my Tab's virtual keyboard wasn't going a major unresponsive slowdown bender.
Oh, wait, I couldn't anyway cos the wireless has is doing the Obtaining IP address trick and I need to reset it twice again.
After I've recharged it cos the battery has run out inexplicably just over night.
I'm only kidding with you... it's a great tablet. Hey, I own one so I back it up with hard cash!
If you want quality hardware get an Ipad, otherwise get the A500.
My A500 is in repair shop now after 3 months!
the only thing bothers me is its quality and weight. I have decided number of times to sell the A500 and buy and Ipad2 but browsing experience just keep we from doing that
godsosall said:
the only thing bothers me is its quality and weight.
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I'm glad you mentioned the weight, I wanted the ipad 2 initialy, especially after trying one for a few days - I was comfortable with ios, since I have an iphone. Also you can hack them like any other device, plus plenty of apps.
However, I bought an Iconia, because of connectivity, expansion, Flash, and price, and I was keen to try Android, now that it has matured somewhat.
I love the Iconia for all the reasons I just mentioned, but I am shocked by its weight, I know there is only 165g difference, but it just feels really heavy, something I never even thought about with the ipad, so I did'nt take it into consideration when choosing a pad.
Bottom line is, if you are going to use it in your hands all the time, get an ipad, if its going to be used on its stand, and/or the weight does'nt bother you, definately get an Iconia