Anyone got an educated guess as to weather or not this device is going to have the same (crap) Samsung Stacks or traditional Bluez Stacks? To be able to utilize the Wiimote app for my emulators would make one more incredible reason to get this device!
My guess is that it will be Samsungs stack, which is nice for its HID profile support including BT Mouse, but a shame in terms of not being able to use WiiMotes with it (I have a Datel Retro Wireless controller gathering dust here). Hard to say though, Samsung may have changed some of their approach to things after their experience with stock Android in the Nexus S.
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yeah I sound stupid, usually you ahve to check in details the specs before buying device (I do own a TP2)
Anyway no IR port sucks... I like controling my home appliances with my phone and this si not possible with the TP2
Have the competing phones (iPhone, latts Acer, Xperia X2, N97, etc...) kept an IR port ?
*Edit* Sorry this thread should be in the General section of Rhodium, if someone could move it that would be better
Alcibiade said:
yeah I sound stupid, usually you ahve to check in details the specs before buying device (I do own a TP2)
Anyway no IR port sucks... I like controling my home appliances with my phone and this si not possible with the TP2
Have the competing phones (iPhone, latts Acer, Xperia X2, N97, etc...) kept an IR port ?
*Edit* Sorry this thread should be in the General section of Rhodium, if someone could move it that would be better
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In these day and age, mobile devices are excluding IrDA port already.. its pretty useless for file transfers.
Besides, if you are looking at remote controls, recent devices have only included lower class consumer IrDA ports. Which means they only function at very very short distances.. you are better off using your fingers on the buttons..
Hi, trolling in on the converstion here...
I have an old IPAQ PDA that came with a decent range IR port and stock Nevo Software.
It was awesome! I could control TV's, Videos, etc with it just by matching a code through trial and error.
I used to have great fun in shopping centre's turning off display tv's, then watching sales or demo people standing around scratching their heads as to why it would turn off or on or change the channels all by itself - hours of fun..!
Juvenile, yes - but lotsa fun.
Newer devices did shorten the IR range, which did make an IR port all but useless as a remote - shame, it was a handy thing to have with decent remote software like Nevo.
(Sometimes progress is not progress at all)
Cheers
Jabberoo
jabberoo said:
Hi, trolling in on the converstion here...
I have an old IPAQ PDA that came with a decent range IR port and stock Nevo Software.
It was awesome! I could control TV's, Videos, etc with it just by matching a code through trial and error.
I used to have great fun in shopping centre's turning off display tv's, then watching sales or demo people standing around scratching their heads as to why it would turn off or on or change the channels all by itself - hours of fun..!
Juvenile, yes - but lotsa fun.
Newer devices did shorten the IR range, which did make an IR port all but useless as a remote - shame, it was a handy thing to have with decent remote software like Nevo.
(Sometimes progress is not progress at all)
Cheers
Jabberoo
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I expected such models.. If the topic starter or anyone can name a few models which they had used the IrDA port with an effective range, I bet it would be old school PDAs.. Models in recent years have just really short ranged IR.
I also like the remote controling function.
I don't know why,for the designer,usually it's difficultly to carry out an useful funcation but easily to cut off an useful function.
Are there no Bluetooth to IR devices that would work?
No I've only seen a IR to Bluetooth devices on the market and that is the opposite of what your looking for it would be great if it was available. Somebody should put a request in to a developer who has experience with fabricating new hardware.
behold the solution to your problem!
no worries, I am working on a universal IR adaptor for phones, its coming along great; I killed my LEDs a while back so I had to wait for a new shipment and had problems with that, but delays aside, we are still set for a September release of our first products and delaying the boosted IR module to later this year (we will focus on software and regular rage IR instead).
Check out the links in my signature!
Hi!
Quick question.
Is there any way you can check whether N7 has got the latest bluetooth? Meaning, the latest N7s have bluetooth 4.0 (Low energy, Smart, whatever they call it)
I was thinking maybe you can look up S/N in store and be sure you got it before purchase.
I really need BT4.0 for my sport equipment.
Cheers!
You're in luck Mr. Damon! You'll soon be working on that impeccable physique with this gem of a tablet strapped to your torso!
Its wifi also takes up a ridiculously low amount of power btw (same chip).
If you mean Bluetooth Smart (aka Bluetooth Low Energy), the Nexus 7 does *NOT* have built-in support for it.
If you want to see support for it, go here, log in w/ your google account and click on the Star at the upper left to make it more important:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=33371
iOS and WP8 both have OS support for it (the GATT BT API). Android Jelly Bean does not
Hush man, you're scaring away Matt Damon! Geez... It's not like he would've noticed anyway. Now next time we'll see him on tv holding some iCrap -.-
Besides, the N7 hardware more than supports BTLE, it's only a matter of time before an update enables it.
LOL. The real Matt Damon is from Boston
Yep, I know the N7 hardware supports BTLE, but as of now, there's no support for it
Even the popular Samsung S3 has no software support for it
And HTC devices don't (same issue as S3...even w/ the 3rd party broadcom-le library, a shared library that has to be provided by the manufacturer is missing).
AFAIK, only a subset of Motorola devices do (mostly their RAZR ones).
I've been digging for a while tonight...got a bluetooth LE heart rate monitor today and went digging for why it couldn't be seen by my S3 and ended up checking my N7 too
Not a fan of the design of the controller or the $50 price tag but the new video is funny.
http://phandroid.com/?p=110415
Moga Review
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68XH6SCXqcc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Enjoy.
Market Link
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bda.pivot.mogapgp
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Lol, that commercial is pretty funny! I just noticed this controller on Slashgear yesterday.
I really love the design - keeping in mind it is intended to be a pocketable controller. So it may not be as nice as a PS3 or 360 controller, but appears more portable/pocketable. I don't have one though, so I can't say for sure. I think the main thing I love is the folding arm - if you keep it folded, it doesn't look that awkward to use as a regular controller with your tablet, but then you unfold it and dock your phone in and it works great that way too. All the other controller attachments look weird if they have a slot for a phone but you don't have anything there...
That said, I'm severely disappointed it wasn't implemented as a standard bluetooth HID device. It only works through their custom Android app. I pictured it as a great controller you can dock your phone into for gaming, but then fold it up and also use it as a regular bluetooth controller for your tablet, laptop, PC, and all your other devices. But that's not what it is, which disappoints me greatly. This was the first controller attachment that made me think "You know, maybe if I have to ditch my Xperia Play someday for a more powerful and current phone that doesn't have game controls, this could get me by", but the way they implemented it really ruins it for me.
Good news is someone has already reverse engineered it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33164006
Which makes me start to consider it an option again, but I really wish it had been implemented differently in the first place.
~Troop
Its funny how not long ago I had my xperia x10 and I was looking for these types of controllers. So it was these types of controller things which lead me into buying an xperia play.
Now every time I see these types of items I just think
Why not just get the Xperia Play!
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That video was pretty funny actually. I just saw this device online, nice idea.
I am very impressed by the hardware. The CPU and GPU leapfrog every other set top box on the market. But for me, Google really needs to invest more of its developers into fixing the software situation. That's the only way I will believe they aren't planning to abandon it like they have so many other ventures.
Gaming matters, but not in the way most people think IMO. No one will ever opt for this over a PS4. Trying to compete with dedicated consoles is a fools errand. Abandon that pipe dream and instead work on making this device the perfect companion device to our gaming consoles. Aim to make it so that anything you can do with a htpc, you can do with the nexus player. Let us install emulators on it. Let us get our PS4 or Ouya controllers working flawlessly on it. Let us stream games from our desktops steam library on it. Work with sony to get playstation tv and ps4 remote play on it.
Google, offer to code these apps and support for third party controllers (ps4 controller, xbox 360 controller, wii u pro controller and Ouya controller) yourself if that’s what it takes to get these controllers working flawlessly on the Nexus Player. We all have ps4, 360, wii u pro or Ouya controllers lying around. Don't make us buy more controllers, make drivers yourself if need be to let us use any of our existing Bluetooth controllers on the nexus player flawlessly.
This article to me is on point... http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/7-things-googles-nexus-player-must-succeed/
Do those and you will turn me into active developer for your device.
So what about you. What does Google have to do to get you to develop for the nexus player?
Nothing really. I am tired of developing simple games for small screens and would love to jump to developing games for the big screen but without obstacles that big consoles put on indie devs. I will port at least tree of my games immediately I get hands on it (which might take time, Google doesn't ship to Poland). I am also developing a new platformer game with a mini console as a main target (and multiplayer like in Rayman Legends) in mind.
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I am very impressed by the hardware. The CPU and GPU leapfrog every other set top box on the market. But for me, Google really needs to invest more of its developers into fixing the software situation. That's the only way I will believe they aren't planning to abandon it like they have so many other ventures.
Gaming matters, but not in the way most people think IMO. No one will ever opt for this over a PS4. Trying to compete with dedicated consoles is a fools errand. Abandon that pipe dream and instead work on making this device the perfect companion device to our gaming consoles. Aim to make it so that anything you can do with a htpc, you can do with the nexus player. Let us install emulators on it. Let us get our PS4 or Ouya controllers working flawlessly on it. Let us stream games from our desktops steam library on it. Work with sony to get playstation tv and ps4 remote play on it.
Google, offer to code these apps and support for third party controllers (ps4 controller, xbox 360 controller, wii u pro controller and Ouya controller) yourself if that’s what it takes to get these controllers working flawlessly on the Nexus Player. We all have ps4, 360, wii u pro or Ouya controllers lying around. Don't make us buy more controllers, make drivers yourself if need be to let us use any of our existing Bluetooth controllers on the nexus player flawlessly.
This article to me is on point... http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/7-things-googles-nexus-player-must-succeed/
Do those and you will turn me into active developer for your device.
So what about you. What does Google have to do to get you to develop for the nexus player?
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Totaly agree, some people dont like the PS controlls but someone likes XBOX controlls people should just get to select what controlls them want to use to the device.
Hi,
I read somewhere that you can no longer use wii controllers since samsung did the updates on the blue tooth stack.
Can i still use a proper blue tooth game controller? Im looking for very small pad i can carry with me.
I found this Nyko play pad thats supposed to work on android, will it still work on my S5 ? Dont want to spend $40 if its a turkey.
http://www.nyko.com/products/product-detail/?name=PlayPad (Black)
Thanks.
What about the MOGA line of Bluetooth gaming controllers?
I have the MOGA Power Pro, and I love it. I has and will continue to work with every android device I have. They run anywhere from $40-$70, but you are paying for a quality made product, with exceptional support and a large community. Just do a simple Google search and you will see what I am talking about. Good Luck!
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I bought the steelseries free instead as the moga is too big, I wanted the smallest full featured pad i could get.