Finally i have my atrix! My mini review - Atrix 4G General

Ok, here are my first impressions so far. Android is mostly unknown in Venezuela so i don't have any prior experience to relate to, but i do have an ipod touch 4g to compare with the OS and such.
-The phone refused to do anything without a sim card, either valid or invalid. As soon as i inserted my invalid sim card, i could do the blur wizard on WiFi and continue.
-Screen is rather nice, it's not AMOLED, but since i haven't owned any AMOLED devices (ipod is lcd) i don't feel it sucks in comparison. Some text is a little blurry, colors not that rich, but i like it.
-Phone seems speedy. Flash on a webpage indeed worked and didn't seem laggy. Except pinch to zoom way sucks, it's isn't fluid anywhere, iOS definitely wins here.
-Camera is better than i expected, since i expected purple pics. Seems ok. Shot 720p video, 20 seconds is 30 MB, huge!
-Alarms won't work with the phone off. This sucks, i don't want to leave the phone on when sleeping (want to save the battery, i don't want any type of data sync). I know i can put it on airplane mode, but it sucks. Every phone i have owned for 15 years has been able to wake itself on. Also, no auto on or auto off like my blackberry does. I know that there are apps for auto off (tasker?), but still this sucks.
-LED is tiny, doesn't do much by its own, needs external apps
-Blur isn't that bad, maybe because i haven't added any account to it. I installed facebook and twitter separately from the market, and am using the gmail app.
-Just enabled usb debugging, installed moto drivers, i see it under adb, time to root! Already purchased unlock code, will wait for it. Update: rooted with aroot, works fine so far.
-I want to make the display turn off at 30 seconds and the device to only lock after 5 minutes. While i have seen an option "security timer", i put it at 5 minutes but after 30 seconds i still needed to draw the finger horizontally to unlock it. Maybe i am not understanding this properly

please let us know when you unlock your phone to tell us if your wifi is working or not.
many users are reporting that when they unlocked their phone, their wireless no longer works.
and where did you get your unlock from " when you do "

Congrats and nice constructive review. Get root and you'll start to appreciate more. I was using an IPhone 4 and the screen didn't seen quite as nice but my eyes have adjusted rather well and i'm really enjoying the Atrix.
It has so much more, I dont think I could ever use the fruit phone again. Have fun
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many users are reporting that when they unlocked their phone, their wireless no longer works.
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unlocked mine last week and mine is working fine (Telstra Aus)

xdaLurker said:
Congrats and nice constructive review. Get root and you'll start to appreciate more. I was using an IPhone 4 and the screen didn't seen quite as nice but my eyes have adjusted rather well and i'm really enjoying the Atrix.
It has so much more, I dont think I could ever use the fruit phone again. Have fun
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The LCD screen color in the Atrix is all wrong. The yellow looks lime green and this is not sure even if it's software fixable!

squarejp said:
The LCD screen color in the Atrix is all wrong. The yellow looks lime green and this is not sure even if it's software fixable!
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actually its, nexus S users have been having same problem and VOODOO was released and now they have a program that adjust the colors based on your desire.
now they dont have pink gray in low brightness or yellowish white screen " those are the issues they used to have "
so all you need is to wait to get this rooted. and by the look of it, we are not very far from it according to the recent development in the last couple of days.

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unlocked mine last week and mine is working fine (Telstra Aus)
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thats encouraging. good to hear that someone got his atrix wifi to work after the unlock. been alot of bad wifis recently

if my wifi stops working after unlocking i will flash the sbf that has been leaked. some users are saying this fixes their problems.
A couple of questions:
Can you configure the time that the display turns off independently of the time that the device locks? I want to turn off the display after 30 seconds, but only want the device to lock after 5 minutes. I have seen an app to disable locking , but not exactly what i want.
My only workaround for the alarm issue is to go on airplane mode and kill all apps before going to sleep. That way i can leave the phone on and the alarm works, but i would have to open again gmail and twitter manually each morning. I have seen a paid app that lets you configure certain tasks (tasker) but wanted to know if there is an alternative.

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tmobile vibrant works great and no complaints

I must be the only one in this forum with a working t-mobile vibrant.
Works great and never had the gps issue either.
Keep up the good work T-mobile!
You're not the only one.
my compass was wonky though, but the JI2 Rom fixed it for me.
glad to hear your's works fine.
I am on my third Vibrant...
My first one was perfect: GPS worked, no lag issues etc. Unfortunately the menu key became nonresponsive...
Mine works great also
My Vibrant is just fine
My Vibrant is working just fine...
Maybe its because I haven't tried to mod it.
At $300, I don't want to "brick" it.
Enough said.
Working great here too.
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I have no complaints about mine ether. I just root it, but didn't get any modes.
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Never have lag issues just GPS issues. Other than that this thing has been wonderful ....
The one that I have currently works great. I returned my first one because the home button quit working, gps also sucked on that one as well. I knew that there was a problem because my wifes vibrants gps works great.
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It's nice to see a thread complimenting this wonderful phone instead of complaining. I also love my phone. Rooted, applied the GPS flashable .zip, and lag fix, but since then, everything's been flawless. Well, the battery life could be a little better, but I get through the day. And the fact that I can't sync with my Google Groups is kind of annoying, too. Haha. But it's cool to see my iPhone friends drool over the greatness that is my Vibrant.
Cheers.
A good amount of people with problems are the ones that hack up their phones. I don't install garbage roms on my phone and I don't have any "lag" "fixes" on my phone and it works great. I updated my phone to JI2 and performance is exactly where I want it to be. Battery life is excellent, EVEN BETTER - despite the fact that I have Tweetcaster, Google Talk, Tweetdeck, Google News&Weather, Fancy Widget AND Feeds & updates syncing every hour or 3. 13 hours of time unplugged right now @ 60% left. Slept for 10 of those hours, left it alone for 2 and I've been used it for maybe 1 hour. Now I'm going to really wake up..
LOVING my Vibrant.
The people complaining are people who expect more from the hardware. This phone is a monster when it comes to specs, but its not showing it software wise, yet.
Personally, coming a blackberry, I don't notice any lag lol.
How you got install JI2... to make the phone run smoother. If you don't mind.
Love mine too...even more after rooting and debloating
Same
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Lovin it!
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Using Ji2 also. I haven't bass much problem with my phone, except for lousy 3G, which got better with Ji2, but is ultimately a network problem in my area.
GPS and compass were wonky, but Ji2 fixed that. I have never had the supposed lag that everyone talks about. Did they expect a beowulf cluster of MIT supercomputers under the touchscreen?
As some others have said, those who have problems tend to also run extensively modded ROMS and overclocked kernels, etc.
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... those who have problems tend to also run extensively modded ROMS and overclocked kernels, etc. ...
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And those having problem with the battery life tend to talk and text and email..., you know, they use it too much like a smartphone....
I switched to the Vibrant from the iPhone 3GS since the contract was finished and I couldn't be happier. This screen leaves the self-promoting "retina" screen in the dust. Black is black on this phone, period. Looking back at the iPhone, the colors now seem to be washed out. The Vibrant is really so vibrant and so light that I can put it in the shirt pocket and don't notice anything. However, after two weeks, I start seeing some worrisome symptoms. Occasionally, the phone becomes so sluggish that only a reboot will fix. I can't let the phone running constantly for many days without rebooting to get the responsiveness back. Even when a call comes in, the screen just not responds to touch until 10 sec later. The System Sound turns itself back so loud that when you reboot the phone, you have to keep the finger on the loudspeaker hole in the back to keep the sound down in the office and then set the System Sound down again for quiet shutdown. In side my house, the signal strength drops to around 0. Many time the phone just does not bother searching for signal any more. When I get into the car and drive out, the phone does not refresh searching for signal. I have to manually turn off and then on the flight mode for the phone to wake up, search for signal and lock it. This relock is very quick, but it's annoying that I have to remember to give the phone a kick to search after it looses the signal for a while.
All problems above are small problems, but they remind me the symptoms of Microsoft Windows before Windows 7 finally came. Any one has the annoying problems that I have? Note that I have Android 1.2 update 1 and I do not have any issue with GPS. Overall it's a much better phone than the iPhone, since I don't have the feeling of locking into ONE company for hardware and for software and I don't have to jailbreak it to get what I want. Thank you for all you guys writing great software for the Android platform. Samsung did a good job with this phone. Maybe Android 2.2 fixes all issues above. Can't wait.
tphone said:
I switched to the Vibrant from the iPhone 3GS since the contract was finished and I couldn't be happier. This screen leaves the self-promoting "retina" screen in the dust. Black is black on this phone, period. Looking back at the iPhone, the colors now seem to be washed out. The Vibrant is really so vibrant and so light that I can put it in the shirt pocket and don't notice anything. However, after two weeks, I start seeing some worrisome symptoms. Occasionally, the phone becomes so sluggish that only a reboot will fix. I can't let the phone running constantly for many days without rebooting to get the responsiveness back. Even when a call comes in, the screen just not responds to touch until 10 sec later....
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How's your battery life?
I love the screen, too, but after two months with the phone I can't wait for 2.2 to hopefully fix some of the issues, and 3.0 to revamp the UI a bit - it's just not as smooth as the iPhone. And I hate the battery life compared to the iPhone.
But, the screen rocks.

quick review after a day of use.

Things I like
1. Keyboard. Did I say keyboard?
I'm still trying my fingers to get familiar with physical keys. Almost two years of wondering on virtual keyboard made it little bit uncomfortable but I love actually having the physical keyboard.
2. Call quality
Compare to my dear NexusOne, call quality is little better.
3. Hinge design
I remember how unsatisfied I was with G1's design or Xperia x1a with it's slide out. I didn't like how G1 continuously hitting the side and became loose or not so smooth sliding out mechanism of Xperia x1a's design. Fortunately my hinge didn't have any problem and works great.
4. Size
So much thinner than I thought. Of course comparing to ones without physical keyboards this is much thicker but wow not bad at all.
now the things I don't like
1. G2 didn't restore all my apps from app store. I had to manually search and download them all again. Yes it still had my paid apps on there but none of them restored either.
2. Screen problems.
First, automatic brightness doesn't work. On top of that screen with white background flickers (i.e. surfing the web) when the brightness set to minimum.
3. Space bar on the keyboard
I really do wish space bar is little bit bigger. I do not need three quick keys. Two would been perfectly fine. I rather have a bit longer space bar.
4. Battery life
Probably due to auto-brightness not working properly, battery drained a lot quicker than i thought. It lasted me only 7 hrs on my first day.
Sigh... After work I'm going to T-Mobile store to exchange it =(
Automatically restoring apps will be in gingerbread from what i've read... but dont quote me on that
It sucks that you had to download everything again. I'm not sure if your previous phone was rooted or not but Titanium Backup does a fantastic job of restoring everything with one click but you have to be a "Root" user to use the application.
I dont have the phone yet but I do agree that the quick keys aren't need. Having an application on a homescreen is alot easier to access than having to open the phone and then hit the quick key.
Are you going to exchange the phone for another G2 or just another phone entirely?
I can't figure out what auto-brightness is really trying to do. I figured it would use the light sensor and adjust brightness as necessary. Instead it seems that it just starts the brightness on a lower setting when you first wake the phone up and then increases it if you keep the phone awake long enough.
I can see some logic to that design, so it may be intentional. Of course it does not reflect how we actually use our phones. If I need full brightness, I probably need it right away. If I'm using my phone in a dark room (say, trying to read a terrible Google Voice transcription of an already incomprehensible late night drunk call), the last thing I want is for the screen to go full blast after a minute.
The quick keys definitely feel like a gimmick to me. I have them set to directly open a message to people I frequently text, but I don't know how much I'll really use them. I'm sure someone will come up with a really cool thing to link them to though.
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Automatically restoring apps will be in gingerbread from what i've read... but dont quote me on that
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with my NexusOne, whenever I wipe the device completely to install different rom and waht not, as soon as I sign into Google account all my apps were restored. I don't know why G2 can't when Nexus One with Froyo can
Akulamenuri said:
It sucks that you had to download everything again. I'm not sure if your previous phone was rooted or not but Titanium Backup does a fantastic job of restoring everything with one click but you have to be a "Root" user to use the application.
I dont have the phone yet but I do agree that the quick keys aren't need. Having an application on a homescreen is alot easier to access than having to open the phone and then hit the quick key.
Are you going to exchange the phone for another G2 or just another phone entirely?
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I still do have an option to go back to NexusOne.
I'm going to exchange the phone for another G2 and see from there.
I don't think it is a good idea to decide a device after only a day of use
Sorry to hear that man. My G2 lasted 18 hours on its first charge.
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I can't figure out what auto-brightness is really trying to do. I figured it would use the light sensor and adjust brightness as necessary. Instead it seems that it just starts the brightness on a lower setting when you first wake the phone up and then increases it if you keep the phone awake long enough.
I can see some logic to that design, so it may be intentional. Of course it does not reflect how we actually use our phones. If I need full brightness, I probably need it right away. If I'm using my phone in a dark room (say, trying to read a terrible Google Voice transcription of an already incomprehensible late night drunk call), the last thing I want is for the screen to go full blast after a minute.
The quick keys definitely feel like a gimmick to me. I have them set to directly open a message to people I frequently text, but I don't know how much I'll really use them. I'm sure someone will come up with a really cool thing to link them to though.
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I should used multi-quote...
anyway, there's a light sensor on top left corner of the screen. It should sense the amount of light it sees and adjust accordingly. At least that's how iPhone, NexusOne, and other devices worked. hm.. if yours act like that too then idk it is defective entirely or just need a update.
Either or, my screen flickering at the lowest setting should not happen.
Actually, there is a QuickKeys widget included that you can put on the homescreen, so you don't need to open the keyboard to get that functionality.
Hawon said:
I should used multi-quote...
anyway, there's a light sensor on top left corner of the screen. It should sense the amount of light it sees and adjust accordingly. At least that's how iPhone, NexusOne, and other devices worked. hm.. if yours act like that too then idk it is defective entirely or just need a update.
Either or, my screen flickering at the lowest setting should not happen.
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After a little experimentation using my hand to cover the light sensor, I think my sensor is just very sensitive. I'm also probably too used to a very dim screen because I always kept my G1 brightness down to save battery. I'll have to experiment more in a completely dark room to see what happens.
Im still training my battery its been more than 24 hrs and the G2 still hasn't went dead yet
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Would they let you exchange a G2 for another one just, no questions asked? I've never done an exchange before so I am just curious.
I think the reason your apps aren't automatically downloading is due to them being different devices and so the Market recognises that and doesn't download them.
If you use AppBrain you can sync your Nexus One and save the list of all your apps there and then copy that list on AppBrain to your new device and then you can sync that and it will download your apps so you don't have to search for each one.
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Would they let you exchange a G2 for another one just, no questions asked? I've never done an exchange before so I am just curious.
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Yes. If you bought it at a retail T-Mobile store you have a 14 buyers remorse period where you can freely exchange it for a new device (has to be the same device, can't exchange for a Vibrant for example) if something is wrong.
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Arcadia310 said:
Yes. If you bought it at a retail T-Mobile store you have a 14 buyers remorse period where you can freely exchange it for a new device (has to be the same device, can't exchange for a Vibrant for example) if something is wrong.
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How does that make any sense? "I have buyers remorse, so I'll go exchange this for the same model...."
The policy is 20 day no questions asked - restock fee may be applied. What they do at a local store may be entirely different.
http://www.t-mobile.com/Templates/P...Policy&WT.z_unav=ftr__returnpolicy&print=true
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How does that make any sense? "I have buyers remorse, so I'll go exchange this for the same model...."
The policy is 20 day no questions asked - restock fee may be applied. What they do at a local store may be entirely different.
http://www.t-mobile.com/Templates/P...Policy&WT.z_unav=ftr__returnpolicy&print=true
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If your phone has a defect you are allowed to exchange it for a brand new phone of the same kind within 14 days I believe. I'm obviously talking about a retail store.
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Arcadia310 said:
If your phone has a defect you are allowed to exchange it for a brand new phone of the same kind within 14 days I believe. I'm obviously talking about a retail store.
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Is the hinge issue considered a defect?
StuRoid said:
I think the reason your apps aren't automatically downloading is due to them being different devices and so the Market recognises that and doesn't download them.
If you use AppBrain you can sync your Nexus One and save the list of all your apps there and then copy that list on AppBrain to your new device and then you can sync that and it will download your apps so you don't have to search for each one.
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Agreed... AppBrain is a must have and it allows you to have apps setup per device. When you get a new device, AppBrain simply restores all of your apps.
Auto Brightness is working for me.
I think everyone, myself included, needs to train their battery if they want to make the most of their setup.
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Arcadia310 said:
Yes. If you bought it at a retail T-Mobile store you have a 14 buyers remorse period where you can freely exchange it for a new device (has to be the same device, can't exchange for a Vibrant for example) if something is wrong.
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Actually within thenperiod, you can exchange it to whatever. Only timenyou cantnfreely is exchange to same one. It has to have some sort of defects.
FYI, if you purchased out right, then its 30 days to return.
StuRoid said:
I think the reason your apps aren't automatically downloading is due to them being different devices and so the Market recognises that and doesn't download them.
If you use AppBrain you can sync your Nexus One and save the list of all your apps there and then copy that list on AppBrain to your new device and then you can sync that and it will download your apps so you don't have to search for each one.
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Appbrain, now I know what to do. Thanks,
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Agreed... AppBrain is a must have and it allows you to have apps setup per device. When you get a new device, AppBrain simply restores all of your apps.
Auto Brightness is working for me.
I think everyone, myself included, needs to train their battery if they want to make the most of their setup.
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Hmmm. How well does your auto brightness work?
I got the new one, include this one all five devices I tried didn't work as well as nexus one. Almost non-noticeable, like an iPad.

Why should we update?

Why should we update? Did the phone get faster in terms of lock screen, the finger print scanner get better? ...etc Post it here!
fRenZy-_- said:
Why should we update? Did the phone get faster in terms of lock screen, the finger print scanner get better? ...etc Post it here!
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because motorola told you to.
much better SQ out of headphone jack
justdrew said:
much better SQ out of headphone jack
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is there anymore lag on the lockscreen, like you dont have to slide twice?
****ing awesome battery life!
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is there anymore lag on the lockscreen, like you dont have to slide twice?
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out of 10 times I only had to slid my finger twice once. The finger print reader scans much better now also. Battery life has gone up. Screen brightness has increased along with sharpness of pics. The pics I've transfered to my phone I took with my dslr looked washed out before. Now they look exactly like they should. Touch screen is more responsive now I think its a good and bad thing. I get more accidental selects now due to it.
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out of 10 times I only had to slid my finger twice once. The finger print reader scans much better now also. Battery life has gone up. Screen brightness has increased along with sharpness of pics. The pics I've transfered to my phone I took with my dslr looked washed out before. Now they look exactly like they should. Touch screen is more responsive now I think its a good and bad thing. I get more accidental selects now due to it.
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Are you over exaggeraring? Be honest. Because if this is the case, I may be willing to give up root for it.
Your telling me that the camera and screen quality is better? Are you certain that the lock screen slider is much more responsive?
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Sorry one more thing. Do you think the new added responsiveness only applies to blur? Im using launcher pro, do you think that would become more responsive? Thanks
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aszrael1266 said:
out of 10 times I only had to slid my finger twice once. The finger print reader scans much better now also. Battery life has gone up. Screen brightness has increased along with sharpness of pics. The pics I've transfered to my phone I took with my dslr looked washed out before. Now they look exactly like they should. Touch screen is more responsive now I think its a good and bad thing. I get more accidental selects now due to it.
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I did initially think the camera was crap until I viewed its pictures on my PC, so I know what you're talking about. But... would software really be able to save the natural crappiness of AMOLED PenTile?
Sofware could fix this and the atrix is not AMOLED just pentile
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Is the update still only available to beta testers?
From all the posts it makes it seem it is available for anyone though a check for updates does nothing for me.
Personally, I would caution everyone before updating. There are numerous issues behind the scenes that need to be worked out. Can not divulge details, but I would personally wait until it has been tested further.
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Are you over exaggeraring? Be honest. Because if this is the case, I may be willing to give up root for it.
Your telling me that the camera and screen quality is better? Are you certain that the lock screen slider is much more responsive?
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Sorry one more thing. Do you think the new added responsiveness only applies to blur? Im using launcher pro, do you think that would become more responsive? Thanks
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I've never used blur on my phone. The first app I put on it as soon as it was opened was luncher pro so I can't say how blur acts now. Its not the camera that has improved its the display of the phone. I do believe it can be done by software by adjusting the phones display (I.E. changing gama and other little behind the scenes things to make colors stand out more)
From what I know the update should be pushed out today. It does take some time and I thought my phone froze up while updating but it just takes time after the phones its first reboot so be patient. As far as brightness goes having it turned down as low as it can get its still brighter then it was before at 20-30%. I use to keep the phone at about 15-20% and now with it turned down as much as I can get it, it is still brighter then before.
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I've never used blur on my phone. The first app I put on it as soon as it was opened was luncher pro so I can't say how blur acts now. Its not the camera that has improved its the display of the phone. I do believe it can be done by software by adjusting the phones display (I.E. changing gama and other little behind the scenes things to make colors stand out more)
From what I know the update should be pushed out today. It does take some time and I thought my phone froze up while updating but it just takes time after the phones its first reboot so be patient. As far as brightness goes having it turned down as low as it can get its still brighter then it was before at 20-30%. I use to keep the phone at about 15-20% and now with it turned down as much as I can get it, it is still brighter then before.
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Is there a time frame I should be worried about here? Im rooted, have the webtop hack, and the adeo rom. Do I need to put all this back to stock before a certain time or ill miss out on the update?
The only thing I would be sacrificing is root. I am new to android, in your guys experience, how long does it take for updates to get rooted after they are released. I just don't think I want to give up root yet because I enjoy freezing all this CRAP that moto put on the phone.
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So the update will be "pushed" to the phones automatically if not rooted? Our does it need to be downloaded from MOTO...?
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If I do the update I my phone wont reset right? Ill keep all my apps and settings?
Never live in the past but always learn from it.
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Is there a time frame I should be worried about here? Im rooted, have the webtop hack, and the adeo rom. Do I need to put all this back to stock before a certain time or ill miss out on the update?
The only thing I would be sacrificing is root. I am new to android, in your guys experience, how long does it take for updates to get rooted after they are released. I just don't think I want to give up root yet because I enjoy freezing all this CRAP that moto put on the phone.
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If you're not up to date and you do a system update check, if there is any new updates, it should finded it. But as far as I know, the updates will be there if your phone is not up to date...
Rooting an update depends on the dev community backing the phone has, i.e. Droid X, which I had, updates were basically rooted within a day or so, look at the DX with the just released GB, it has a method for rooting already... and this phone doesn't look like it has as much dev backing, so it can take a while..
If you've done mods to your phone, and you try to update and it fails, it's most likey the mods are the ones stoping the updates, as it does checks on certain system files that need to match..
The update sounds great but I think ill wait for everyone to experiment with it first, then when the root comes out ill make the jump. Sounds like a lot of things that bothered me are fixed though. Too bad I can't grab it yet
I honestly probably would, im just scared as hell to try and remove these Adeo nods. The process looks involved. And I think I even read something that said wifi could break? Scary stuff
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I've done the update, retaining my root, and can confirm the phone is fast as hell. Use these guides:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991072
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12540398#post12540398
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I don't know how many here use swype, but I do, and i have seen a much better word recognition after the update. And i have kept root.
I think 4.1.26 is better. can easy be rooted and faster,I think.

Ics face unlock missing

got my transformer updated last night to ics and I cant find face unlock in settings. can anyone help me find it? or is it not there for tablets?
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not available in this release for front cameras under 720p devs are working on it though already got it working on nexus s
ohh thanks man
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Owning a Nexus, it's annoying anyway... cool but annoying.
I played with it for a few days and it was more hassle then it was worth. You have to "Improve" it constantly at first for it to even work with some consistency.
What they need to do is set a timer so once you face unlock, it just requires a simple slide to unlock for a set period... like 15min of screen off time. When you are working on something and constantly having to take self pictures to unlock the damn thing, it becomes a pain.
Once you face unlock, it should know that you're "around" close by. I only need FaceUnlock when I haven't been on my tablet for 15+ minutes and gone.
player911 said:
Owning a Nexus, it's annoying anyway... cool but annoying.
I played with it for a few days and it was more hassle then it was worth. You have to "Improve" it constantly at first for it to even work with some consistency.
What they need to do is set a timer so once you face unlock, it just requires a simple slide to unlock for a set period... like 15min of screen off time. When you are working on something and constantly having to take self pictures to unlock the damn thing, it becomes a pain.
Once you face unlock, it should know that you're "around" close by. I only need FaceUnlock when I haven't been on my tablet for 15+ minutes and gone.
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I agree completely. It's nothing more than a gimmick at this point.
Yes it's missing but it is running in the background. If you check all apps you will see it has the force close option. I myself just disabled the app so not to waste resources.
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not available in this release for front cameras under 720p devs are working on it though already got it working on nexus s
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i dont think galaxy nexus got 720P FFC
LastStandingDroid said:
i dont think galaxy nexus got 720P FFC
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then you are wrong
player911 said:
Owning a Nexus, it's annoying anyway... cool but annoying.
I played with it for a few days and it was more hassle then it was worth. You have to "Improve" it constantly at first for it to even work with some consistency.
What they need to do is set a timer so once you face unlock, it just requires a simple slide to unlock for a set period... like 15min of screen off time. When you are working on something and constantly having to take self pictures to unlock the damn thing, it becomes a pain.
Once you face unlock, it should know that you're "around" close by. I only need FaceUnlock when I haven't been on my tablet for 15+ minutes and gone.
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Load AOKP onto it. It has an option to delay the lock for a while and it works pretty good. Stock ICS has this option too whenever you have a secure lock turned on (like a pin) right under the lock options in security. Not sure why it doesn't show up otherwise but whatever. Only problem is that if you manually lock the screen it'll still lock it completely, hence why I like the AOKP option better because it doesn't care how the phone turns off it only locks it after x amount of screen off time.

LG G4 No Issues

Hey, everyone!
I, for one, am sitting on the fence with the decision on whether or not to buy the G4. Since there are so many threads talking about the various issues with the G4, I thought that I would ask those of you who don't have any issues. Let's balance the arguments so that more of us can decide on whether we want to buy the phone or not.
So... Who is perfectly happy with their phone and would you recommend it?
Yes i am pretty happy with this phone.. No touch issues for me 10 fingers are registering nicely.but sometimes 2 or 3 times out of 100 knockcodes says wrong but taps are registering i think its my fault that i enter knockcode incorretly.
Right now i m using lg keyboard and no lag at all..
Battery is seems ok to me i m using games skype fb viber intertnet browsing all day and i got 4 hours of screenon time with brightness level 75%.
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By far the best phone I've ever purchased. Very happy with all aspects of the phone. I do no notice any missed touches or incorrect knock codes as long as I'm going at a reasonable speed. Everything works wonderfully. The camera is amazing and I am incredibly impressed with the OS. 100% satisfied here!
Me too. Best phone ever. Camera is amazing too
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No issues for me even snapiest than S6 imo. Perfect phone
Battery routinely gives me 4+ hrs sot. Great camera. Great colorful screen, probably my favorite feature.
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I unlocked bootloader and rooted installed adaway and remove some bloatware
DeadSOL said:
Hey, everyone!
I, for one, am sitting on the fence with the decision on whether or not to buy the G4. Since there are so many threads talking about the various issues with the G4, I thought that I would ask those of you who don't have any issues. Let's balance the arguments so that more of us can decide on whether we want to buy the phone or not.
So... Who is perfectly happy with their phone and would you recommend it?
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Absolutely zero issues. Perfect screen, touch is responsive, no heating up, no lag, camera takes gorgeous pictures.
I get occasional lag, but for all I know is it's an app (I'm a techie so I'd like to think all of my apps are legitimate but who knows).
No hardware issues, etc.
I voted "Yes" because I have some issues but those are so minor that I don't really care about them too much... It's a really great phone and I highly recommend it...
Great phone
My first post but I wanted to chime in on this thread. I have read this forum a lot since I am interested in root access. I feel like there is a vocal minority that hates the phone, primarily because of lack of root, and wanted to offer perspective from someone who's mostly a regular user.
I mostly love the phone. I previously had a Galaxy S4, and have had this for 3 weeks. There are many little things that make it overall a great piece of hardware.
- No buttons on the side. I can't tell you how much of a design improvement this. Never accidentally press anything, hold it how you want, put it in any clip-type mount, no issues. It takes about a day to get used to using the back controls and then it's joy.
- Phone feels great in your hand. It's the perfect size, shape and weight, and you can switch the on-screen navigation buttons so "back" is where I was used to it on the S4 (the right side). I never really felt comfortable holding the S4. Would often flip it out of my hand while trying to one-handed operate it.
- Beautiful big screen. The slight curve feels perfect in your pocket.
- The default launcher is actually very nice. Some nice little things like you can shove 7 across on the task bar and it will shrink the icons to fit them; good folders implementation; apps/widgets tabs. It's unintrusive and gets most stuff right.
- The IR blaster actually works.
- Mine is Verizon and annoyingly they disabled some features, but the only thing I really cared about I got back with a shortcuts (native phone number blacklist). And access Lock, vital.
- Shortcut to camera with volume-down button, nice. (And of course the camera is stunning)
- Battery life has been fantastic for me. I've gone two days on a single charge with moderate use. I don't keep the screen incredibly bright, though, this is definitely the biggest power sucker.
- No overheating issues. This was infuriating on the S4, I couldn't run Waze on a summer day without it literally shutting itself down half the time.
- And of course the whole reason I got this instead of an S6 in the first place... removable battery and my 128 gig of storage
I haven't had any touchscreen issues. I did install the OTA update which was pushed to my phone the same day I got it. (I hope I don't come to regret this w.r.t. root...)
So while I wish I could root it, the lack of root access isn't actually making my life miserable in any way. The only reason I rooted the S4 it was because of the lack of SD card write access under Kit Kat, and because Verizon pushed an update that actually broke the S4 causing random reboots which was fixable by removing Knox.
The SD card is not an issue with Lollipop. That said, once I had root access on the S4, of course I installed the Xposed Framework and played with stuff, like adding flashlight to my reboot menu (hey, this is already on the pulldown menu built into my G4!). But there is really nothing I couldn't live without.
So I'd love to be able to root this thing, but here's exactly what I am missing without root compared to the S4:
1. Full ad blocking (I can block over wifi with a proxy, so it's just an issue for cellular data)
2. Greenify that has native access to stop apps.
I have since just started using Greenify as my screen-off button and this is satisfactory (though I still see some apps like Skype that like to just resurrect themselves randomly, not much I can do here). The ad thing is not really that big a deal for me. I don't spend a ton of time reading ad-heavy web sites over cellular data, while I've certainly noticed ads a little more than I used to, it's not making me crazy. There's no dealbreaking functional issue such as I had with the S4 that makes me feel like I will cry if I never get root.
So there you have it, very happy LG G4 user.
I remember reading here on XDA a way to have adblock on cellular. I think you need to create a new APN and add a proxy to that APN I tried this on my s6 and it worked.
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I remember reading here on XDA a way to have adblock on cellular. I think you need to create a new APN and add a proxy to that APN I tried this on my s6 and it worked.
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I did find a description of a method to do this while researching the issue, but I don't think it's possible on this phone. The methods described involved options that were not available. (No proxy config, can't create new cell data profile). I looked for shortcuts that might expose hidden options but couldn't find anything relevant.
Anyone elses g4 mistake a swipe up gesture for a tap when scrolling? Ill be scrolling xda or any other app and i swipe to go farther down and the phone will mistake it for a tap and click on reply or photo or something, pretty annoying but just wondering if anyone elses g4 does this
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I have the H815 verison and besides double tap to wake sometimes needing 3-4 taps to wake up, the phone is flawless (as it should be for what I paid for it lol).
I voted no problem, but I have a small issue with double tap to wake.
It seems that occasionally the phone is locked and at the knock screen even when several Smart Unlock conditions are met (location, connected to bluetooth, etc.). If I double tap, it doesn't wake because it's still locked and expecting a knock code. This double tap wakes the phone, but doesn't always turn on the screen. The second double tap usually unlocks the phone, but occasionally it only wakes to the knock code screen. If I pause for a moment, it'll usually Smart Unlock and all is well.
I seem to have less of a problem with this if High Accuracy Location Mode is on. In GPS only mode this was happening all the time. Hopefully there will be an update to prioritize Bluetooth for Smart Unlock.
DeadSOL said:
Hey, everyone!
I, for one, am sitting on the fence with the decision on whether or not to buy the G4. Since there are so many threads talking about the various issues with the G4, I thought that I would ask those of you who don't have any issues. Let's balance the arguments so that more of us can decide on whether we want to buy the phone or not.
So... Who is perfectly happy with their phone and would you recommend it?
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Using it for a couple days now. Its a great phone. Am patiently waiting for Root then it'd be perfect
Wow. Thanks for the replies, people.
The poll results seem neck-and-neck right now but it's great to know that there are several people with no issues. Software issues can always be fixed so that's an upside.
Interesting how there are people that say they have no issues other than swipes not registering correctly or double tap doesn't work all the time or there is something often lagging....
Those are issues...
Bootup said:
Interesting how there are people that say they have no issues other than swipes not registering correctly or double tap doesn't work all the time or there is something often lagging....
Those are issues...
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It feels like a small software issue.
If you check out the horror stories in this forum, you'll see how people are really giving this phone bad press. Compared to that, a couple of taps not registering for Knock On doesn't seem so bad.

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