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AOSP Alpha for Fascinate

So, I see Twitter is all buzzing about the developers putting AOSP on the Fascinate and I was hoping to see some discussion about it here but surprisingly....nothing.
Actually I have to admit, I was hoping to lurk around to learn some more about what this means for us. As a new Android owner, I believe this gives us the stock android experience that devices like the N1 and NS have but I'm not entirely sure.
So I'm just coming out and asking, is this the reason why so many people are excited? To get rid of Samsung's TW layer on top of Android or does this mean something more? Secondly, does this offer us a pathway to Froyo or Gingerbread or are we still dependent on Samsung releasing their version first?

Aosp is android open source project. Yes it is vanilla android. The reason there is no discussion on here about it is that it is not totally functional yet, from last I heard, 2 days ago. If you want to see the progress of this, you can go into irc and ask about it. Aosp is usually more streamlined because there is no custom skin over it, sense, tw, blur which usually slow the phone down. It offers more customization, you can look at other aosp roms on different phones to see what kind of customization it offers. And lastly, no it does not pave the way for froyo or gingerbread. The source has to be released from Google which it has been, (I think) but samsungs source is corrupted which really hinders our devs from really doing much and makes it much more difficult. The RIL, the thing that allows us to call, text, ect also is also a problem. I hope this clarifies some things for you and I am still learning things everyday and if I have anything wrong, please feel free to correct me.
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Skyeclad said:
So I'm just coming out and asking, is this the reason why so many people are excited? To get rid of Samsung's TW layer on top of Android or does this mean something more? Secondly, does this offer us a pathway to Froyo or Gingerbread or are we still dependent on Samsung releasing their version first?
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The alpha build was just "released" here today or last night. It's still buggy, but functional enough for basic use. It will make it somewhat easier to get AOSP Froyo/Gingerbread working, but it will still be difficult to get either on our phones without Samsung releasing either of them first to lay the initial groundwork for them.

Jt has made his own RIL for the aosp build, so I think this does help with froyo a bit.

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Jt has made his own RIL for the aosp build, so I think this does help with froyo a bit.
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Thanks guys. I had read the he was making his own RIL, which seemed like you would only do if you wanted to make yourself independent from Samsung in the future.
This is my first Android and I REALLY like it compared to my previous smartphone, the BB Storm 1. However, like the Storm, Samsung's inability to produce a timely Froyo build feels like Deja Vu all over again.
I've played with TW, Sense and Stock Android and maybe it's just me but honestly, they are all pretty similar. I know that some here will vehemently disagree but all of them just let me do what I need to do, run apps, write e-mails and make calls. Truthfully, it seems absurd for these manufacturers to even write these silly custom UI's at all but they seem to think that this provides some sort of value added differentiation.
The only 2 things that bother me about my phone, the occasional freezes where the hardware buttons are lit but don't respond and then all of a sudden all the touches that I made that didn't do anything at first, start to fire off rapidly. Secondly, not being able to upgrade to apps that are coming out that require Froyo.
Full disclosure, I would have said GPS performance but that was fixed here with DJ05 and JT's 12/12 Non-Voodoo Kernel.
Well, I think the only thing that scared me away from running the AOSP rom was the list of bugs that seemed to indicate that inbound phone calls don't always work and lack of BT. While I know I can try it out and return, I hate having to restore all those apps and data settings with Titanium, not to mention the potential for a late night in IRC in case things go south!!

I was really excited to see this and loaded it up as soon as I could. It looked great, I would have kept it on regardless of the bugs, but for some reason my home button stopped working and sms functionality was sporadic at best.
I can't wait to try it again when it is finished.

Gotta say, major props to JT, birdman and others. Only reason for me wanting froyo now that i have DJ05 is HID support, which most likely won't come until CM comes around, so i'll wait on installing this, especially since they don't need bug report yet. But its nice to see progress on the playing field, especially when its progress that the community has taken into their own hands.
Thanks for all the hard work.

^this. Cant wait until its fully stable/all features working properly. JT is truly awesome at his craft!

I'm running it right now as we speak pretty stable for me, my new daily driver
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Also running this. Really awesome! Can't believe how hard you guys work on this phone. Keep it up
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working okay for me. keep up the good work

Working good for me as well.
Noticed there is no task manager as well as the backup to reload contacts. Guess it's manual input of those again....not so bad since it is the 20th time doing it. Just a nice waste of time.

Glad you posted this thread. It clears up some questions I had too. I've been in computing since 1980 and it seems like the more time passes, the more unfriendly people are about sharing tech knowledge. Android has been one of the most difficult pieces of tech for me to find solid CONCRETE answers about. You have to piece things together from hundreds of websites and hope the consensus is accurate and not a stream of cut and paste work. Especially with android purporting to be open, you'd think there'd be a lot more energy to encourage more folks to develop for it, but it almost seems exactly the opposite.
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Anyone else having problems with their ringtones with this? Mine aren't playing at all. I just hear a short tweet sound at the beginning then silence
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bwheelies,
Does importing them from SD card work?

Google contact sync works fine (even fixes the duplicate contact bug that touchwiz has). I think he was referring to backup assistant (which is of course missing from this rom )
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Does anyone else get an instant FC on the Facebook for Android app? I was looking forward to using the app's built-in and far-superior to TouchWiz Facebook contact sync. Thing is, it just won't open after a fresh install. The only way I can get the app to open is if I restore a TB backup of Facebook taken from DJ05... which automatically keeps the built-in contact sync disabled.

bwheelies, as far as contacts go, it its probably worth your effort to put them into your google contacts now that you are entering them anyway... Just click Contacts in gmail (on your computer)and go to town, you will thank me later. Well, maybe not, but it its a handy time saver for synching contacts in the future
Swyped w/ XDA App. When in doubt, mumble.

+1 for contacts synced with google lol
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jspidah said:
bwheelies,
Does importing them from SD card work?
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That is what I did. Now to sync with Google.
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[$$$] Bluetooth HID Drivers for Verizon GT

I will pay for the development if someone can get bluetooth HID drivers working for the Verizon version of the GT. I have an Apple Bluetooth Keyboard I desperately need to work with the Tab. This can be my lightweight emergency station to handle different servers if I had a keyboard to type with.
Thanks!

TekSoft (BlueInput) has been talking about adding a fuller Bluetooth stack to thier keyboard driver to help all of the android devices that don't include the full HID (Droid incredible, VZW Samsung Galaxy Tab). It sounds like they are trying to have something in February. teksoftco.com
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Great! Though I still need something a bit more definite and sooner.
Any reason why taking the drivers from a Tmo one and putting them on a Verizon one wouldnt work?
Do they use different bluetooth chipsets?

I saw a tear down of a tab somewhere online I need to find again but a lot of wireless chipsets these days are integrated. Cdma wifi gps and bluetooth are often found in the same piece of hardware. This means we may have very different hardware from our gsm friends. This is to handle issues such as TDMA between bluetooth and wifi and other interferences.
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Dang. No coders up for this challenge?
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I believe on Tab in Samsung's ROM the Bluetooth keyboard support is in IME app.
For my CM6 build i had to enable BT HID in the kernel. Maybe if someone is building VZW tab kernels+initram fs they can try enabling BT HID in the kernel.

I'll check it out if I have some time this week. It *shouldn't* be hard to enable. No promises or anything though.

Boushh said:
I'll check it out if I have some time this week. It *shouldn't* be hard to enable. No promises or anything though.
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Thanks man. This is a big deal to making this device a great laptop replacement while traveling light.
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I'm willing to donate to get HID working on the VZW tab.
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kingharrison said:
Thanks man. This is a big deal to making this device a great laptop replacement while traveling light.
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For sure. I would much ratherhave my options on BT keyboards over the silly Samsung dock.

there is a keyboard that works with the Tab but it's not BT. I picked it up from the Verizon store and love it. Can even hook up speakers if I want.

I compiled the kernel with bluetooth HID included, no idea how to installbit though and am afraid to make a brick.
Any suggestions.
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robinsmy1 said:
I compiled the kernel with bluetooth HID included, no idea how to installbit though and am afraid to make a brick.
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You can't brick it by just replacing the kernel. Worst case scenario you'd need to reflash the rom.

I am still running stock.
How would I go about replacing the kernel?
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Did anybody get anywhere with this? I am still willing to donate to get these to work!

I still have the compile kernel, but no Idea how to flash it, I have not found anything on how to flash just a kernel to only the boot partition. I do not want to touch the recovery partition just in case it does not work.
I have no problem with programming stuff, I am just very new to the rom area and want to be safe

It needs to be a zImage, then flash it through Heimdall

I have a zimage....can you give me a little tutorial on Heimdall....never used it. If you will, i will try my kernal....otherwise, I would be happy to upload the kernel here and let someone who knows how try it on thiers
Also, what about signing....does the zimage need signing or do I need some change to allow it to run unsigned?

Amazing to see that people are working on this HORRIFIC issue. I am also willing to donate a bit of cash to get this one working

Thanks for working on this guys! This is HUGE for us wanting to replace their laptop with the Verizon GT.

About to purchase a used Galaxy S I9000

Sirs,
How are you all doing? this is my very first post and I decided to ride dirty with the android OS finally (I'm late..) Originally coming from that dead Symbian OS environment.. I love customization and everything related to tinkering the phones hardware and software..
So now I am about to buy a used galaxy S I9000, I just want to know what are the things to look for this used android unit? I can see it's just slightly used so what will I look for aside from the outside appearance? How about in the software itself?
I only know that the phone is on GB 2.3.3 I think and it has like a custom way of killing apps, launching..really it's my first time on android and I need professional advises and this is the best site to ask from, I know.
Jesse

Check usb connection and it powers on and gets signal ..... Duplicate thread
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as expected, so if this is a duplucate thread, could you please give a me a link to this thread sir? I already read the guidelines, rules, and regulations but I just want to ask from a personal standpoint and I expect this forum to be the best and expert in this Android revolution..

Someone else opened the same.thread
Just make sure usb is secure, make sure it boots ok and speaker is ok.
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alright alright gotcha!

How do you want to use your phone?
In my opinion, this device is a disappointment for normal,everyday basic use.
If you really want android ride on SGS, keep yourself ready for be here on xda regularly for help (you tasted it already)and hacks,be ready to root your phone and be ready to reboot your phone n number of times(sometime it does auto ) and be ready to get a mixed feeling,sometime it makes you happy and sometimes you would like to throw it away.
Its my opinion based on use, not intended for anything else.
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GreenSGS said:
How do you want to use your phone?
In my opinion, this device is a disappointment for normal,everyday basic use.
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Unless you're installing the latest beta ROMs or custom ROMs, this phone is actually very stable and reliable for day to day use. And the UI is fast and responsive enough on 2.3.3. In any case, in terms of reliability and speed, the SGS is miles ahead of any Symbian device.

Wtf???
Mate. He said he likes to customize.
I have nothing but good things to say about my phone. Gps is accurate and always has been. I knocked back an sgs2 upgrade to wait for next nexus.
Check pixels and speaker.
Check Gps accuracy in maps.
Usb connects and check for 3 button combo to recovery/download mode.
Good luck and enjoy.
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Guys,
My use of phone dialer,messaging and call logs comes under basic use.
And dialer lags, contacts gives message 'no additional info available' and then shows number.no matter which rom you use.
Even dialer removed from memory.
I have 2 phones in house one running stock 2.3.3 and one 2.3.5 so I am not imagining anything.
Dont reboot phone for a week and see what happens.
If it was all that good, all the ram tweaks,kernel tweaks,optimization tweaks, wouldn't even exists.
If your expr. & opinion differs post it.
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wow thanks! a lot of tips already! my appreciation to you guys,
well i want my phone for calls, sms, internet, productive apps,some graphically good games?, storage for photos(bought a 16GB microSD yesterday for this phone, excited am I?) videos-movies perhaps? some noobie photography (BTW I love that touch to focus feature!)
I guess I'm more into content, really LOL
Again thanks!
PS how to enter to download mode?

I'll try first dealing with the stock roms, is there any 2.3.7 GB for galaxy cause I see it everywhere along with the CM7? is that an official firmware or CM7 based on that OEM firmware? maybe when I want more, that's the time I'll do a CM7 flash..what about skype video calling or google talk? is it good in this phone?

GreenSGS said:
How do you want to use your phone?
In my opinion, this device is a disappointment for normal,everyday basic use.
If you really want android ride on SGS, keep yourself ready for be here on xda regularly for help (you tasted it already)and hacks,be ready to root your phone and be ready to reboot your phone n number of times(sometime it does auto ) and be ready to get a mixed feeling,sometime it makes you happy and sometimes you would like to throw it away.
Its my opinion based on use, not intended for anything else.
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Trollollololol - back under your bridge fellow.

"Do not feed the trolls"- epic quote
I will be using this phone for everyday use, k?

Another important thing to look for: if it enters Download Mode [Vol Down + Home + Power]
If not, it can be fixed, but it involves a little risk. This would be the only risky thing you'll do software wise, after your Download Mode works, it's very hard to brick the phone.

jcagara08 said:
I'll try first dealing with the stock roms, is there any 2.3.7 GB for galaxy cause I see it everywhere along with the CM7? is that an official firmware or CM7 based on that OEM firmware? maybe when I want more, that's the time I'll do a CM7 flash..what about skype video calling or google talk? is it good in this phone?
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2.3.7 was a Nexus upgrade that added things like NFC, which most phones do not have the hardware to support this. CM7 uses Nexus source code. I don't believe anything helpful for you was added/changed.
And try not to believe the crap these people are spewing. My contacts, diallers, and whatever else that guy was rambling about are just fine. And obviously that is not a problem across all ROMs, considering most ROMs use different apps (for example, Samsung apps aren't run on AOSP ROMs—and I haven't seen this problem on either).
Good luck! It's an exciting phone.

wow, thanks to all of your advices dudes! what would be a good protector for this phone aside from the screen guards?

Dev shopping for music-only ROM idea

I had been thinking of all those who are going to or already have gotten a new phone, but thanks to the development community still love their old Erii. I am going to eventually (as soon as I get a job) switch mine, but I really love my Eris and don't want to see it end up getting tossed out like it's garbage. So I had an idea for a super-light ROM that disables or deletes anything not need for being a fancy mp3 player (read Android version of an iPod Touch).
I had asked Workshed if he might want to do it, and he said he thinks it's a great idea. I think it should happen and so I am asking the rest of the devs to try.
It should :
Be as fast as possible.
Be super stable.
Have (baked in) the WiFi only script.
Be sexy.
If possible, be either ICS or ICS-themed. (optional but would be cool)
If there is a dev that feels like giving it a try, respond here and see what you can do.
I love you all here on XDA. But even more so the development community of the Eris. It's made the using of such an outdated phone bearable and, in fact, enjoyable.

a froyo rom like this was made a year ago.. im surprised nobody has made a gingerbread version.. and honestly for a device thats not a phone.. i could deal with froyo... 2.3 on my touch pro 2 runs so slow...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=979808

I have made my own "music only" ROM based off GSB 4.5 that workshed just released.
basically, I just load the "wifi-only" script via init.d, and have stripped out everything not necessary. The only remaining annoyance is that the signal bars for the cell network still appear in the status bar, just grayed out and with an x over them... I'm trying to find a way to remove the signal bars entirely from the device, and then I will be happy.

Is it not possible to just remove them from systemui. In a sense just remove the actual PNG files.
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I'm using xtrROM, because I needed native wma support. I stripped everything I didn't need. I used zeam launcher and put only one screen to avoid the annoying auto scroll from the well known crappy track-ball problem. I underclocked it with setcpu, down to 256Hz with the screen off. Added wifi only script, and I can get about 6 days moderate use and 8 hours of continuous play. I think an mp3 rom is a good idea, but I have already got a good setup. WMA support is a must though.
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Futile post, I made a thread with the rom I released.
Called (ROM) Abridged for Music

I'll have to try that one once I get my new phone (soon so don't worry). If it's not fast, I suggest asking workshed for tips, since GSB has speed figured out. It should be really fast if the bloat gets removed, or at least easy to make faster. And as far as forgetting the script, don't worry. All devs forget something from time to time.
Also, if there are any devs working on ICS for the Eris, I would love one of them to try this out, as it could be a simpler "starter version" of their final work and be perfectly suited for this. After all, most ROMs start out really rough, with no working phone or some such problem. In this version, they wouldn't have to work all the major problems out, after all. All we want is to have no phone access, but WiFi. Not even Bluetooth.
However, I have to point out that this thread is for getting devs interested in the project. You should make your own thread for the result, so people can come to you and let you know of issues and suggestions.

Futile post, I made a thread with the rom I released.
Called (ROM) Abridged for Music

Super_Dork_42 said:
I'll have to try that one once I get my new phone (soon so don't worry). If it's not fast, I suggest asking workshed for tips, since GSB has speed figured out. It should be really fast if the bloat gets removed, or at least easy to make faster. And as far as forgetting the script, don't worry. All devs forget something from time to time.
Also, if there are any devs working on ICS for the Eris, I would love one of them to try this out, as it could be a simpler "starter version" of their final work and be perfectly suited for this. After all, most ROMs start out really rough, with no working phone or some such problem. In this version, they wouldn't have to work all the major problems out, after all. All we want is to have no phone access, but WiFi. Not even Bluetooth.
However, I have to point out that this thread is for getting devs interested in the project. You should make your own thread for the result, so people can come to you and let you know of issues and suggestions.
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I'd say leave Bluetooth, myself. There's a lot of Bluetooth pieces for streaming media and you won't have those stupid wires hanging out of your head ...
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CondemnedSoul said:
I'd say leave Bluetooth, myself. There's a lot of Bluetooth pieces for streaming media and you won't have those stupid wires hanging out of your head ...
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Fair enough. I guess I was only thinking of headsets.
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I just wanted to pop in and say that preludedrew mentioned the following to me about a possible future addition to Evervolv...
preludedrew: oh btw, kinda on the same subject of your small builds
preludedrew: I Want to do a 'media' build
preludedrew: more or less, a build that can be used as a media player
preludedrew: goes through and disables all telephony except wifi
preludedrew: for people that have spare phones and want to use them as mp3 players.
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Not sure when one of us might get around to that but it's on our radar.

MongooseHelix said:
I just wanted to pop in and say that preludedrew mentioned the following to me about a possible future addition to Evervolv...
Not sure when one of us might get around to that but it's on our radar.
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So regardless of now, this denote you gave might end all the controversy about this 'MP3' rom run. Very discreet of you and your team

Hello Fellow S4 Users!!!

Hey all!!!
I've made my return to XDA after about a year of using an old blackberry when my last HTCrap broke.. I was so sad without my android I spent time fussing with my iPad Mini and it wasn't the same!
So over the weekend I finally switched from T-Mobile to AT&T and I couldn't be happier with my service (the LTE is FAST!!) nor the phone cause this S4 is such a treat as I'm sure you all know.
So as I try to get settled back into what was the daily XDA grind of helping fellow users and always trying to gain knowledge of our device and anything Android I felt it would benefit me if I could get a jump start in my new community!
I have a few questions that I know I can/will answer myself but I would value all and any input from you guys
So first off... What's gone wrong with the ROOT???? I was so excited when the S3 came out boot loader unlocked already and all... I had even pre ordered that one at one point.. But here it seems there is only a select percent of users who have attained root on their phone? Seems as if we as a community haven't quite unlocked our phones full potential yet!!
My next question stems from that last question. How is the development scene looking for our device?
I know the Samsung legacy has been a very attractive platform for some wonderful developers in the past, and that was something I was looking forward to with the S3 and is still true for my S4! My question is how good is our outlook?
Anyways other than that just little questions I have that I am sure i'll figure out as I get back into it all
Any good apps you guys could recommend that have maybe gained a footing in the past few months?
That's guys and I can't wait to get to start poking around and helping out as our device gets rolling!!!
Cheers!
Matt
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Oh and also guys!!!
This is my first Samsung phone I have had all HTCraps ever since my G1 it was all those htcs!!!! So even though I've read lots about the odin and that USB Jig thing and all that from the S2 days and such I don't quite understand what that is and why it is that we have to pay attention to such on our Sammie's... So if anyone could point me in the direction of a good guide to learning that maybe I would be much appreciative!!!
Thanks!!
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A lot will depend on which firmware you have. If you have mdl or mdb your pretty much good to go. BUT, take your SIM out now and do some research. If you have mf3 you only can root, no custom recovery or flashing roms.
Edit, and no odin back to stock. Very important to consider.
Start here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42320391

jd1639 said:
A lot will depend on which firmware you have. If you have mdl or mdb your pretty much good to go. BUT, take your SIM out now and do some research. If you have mf3 you only can root, no custom recovery or flashing roms.
Start here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42320391
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Thanks! I've read that and I do have MF3 I forgot to mention that above. Unfortunately I will have to wait it seems. Thank you!
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I would enable the Google keyboard instead of using the Samsung one. It has swipe built in and works better and also recommend setting chrome as the default browser because the stock one is nice but acts funny with the yahoo news widget when reading articles.
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galaxyjeff said:
I would enable the Google keyboard instead of using the Samsung one. It has swipe built in and works better and also recommend setting chrome as the default browser because the stock one is nice but acts funny with the yahoo news widget when reading articles.
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I'm enjoying the samsung keyboard quite a lot actually it has swipe.... and the only Google keyboard I see is the typical google voice input.
I enjoy the keyboard so much i switched from Swiftkey!
And of course Chrome or nothing!!
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CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
I'm enjoying the samsung keyboard quite a lot actually it has swipe.... and the only Google keyboard I see is the typical google voice input.
I enjoy the keyboard so much i switched from Swiftkey!
And of course Chrome or nothing!!
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Wait until it constantly puts the wrong word in. I liked it too but got tired of the inaccuracy of it.
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