Instore Demo's display has artifacts opening apps and jerky scrolling, pinch zooming - Xoom General

I have been on the fence for this ever since it has been out. I have been to bestbuy and verizon to test out the demo units multiple times and both units seem to have the same issue.
When I open some apps, say dolphin hd for example, I can see screen artifacts for a second. Like colored dashes of varying lengths, and this seems to happen often.
Second, when I am trying to pinch and zoom or scroll in Dolphin, it jerky and spastic, there was one other app that did this as well but I can remember which one. The scrolling on the stock browser seems ok but not the best.
Anyway, do any of you see this? More than likely a software fix, but hey, you never know.
And a rant, who on earth thought of that flimsy power adapter, good grief, they were both broken and the two stores when I first went to look but have since been replaced. And the power button? I have to turn it over to find it.....
Rant off and hoping to fall of the fence.....
Matt

The power button is actually placed well I think. It's not in the way and not hard to get to. I rarely have my device on a table cause of the viewing so it's not a hassle. Also I have not experienced that with dolphin HD on my device.

It's a Dolphin HD problem.
The stock browser rocks.

I haven't noticed any screen artifacts on my display whatsoever. For the most part I disregard demo displays in any store, as you have thousands of people with their hands all over it and the mentality of "Its not mine, what do I care?". God only knows what was done to the demo units.
I have not used Dolphin HD browser at all, so I can't comment on that, i'll try and download it today and give you another reply. The android browser pinch to zoom works damn near flawlessly for me.
As for the power cable, yes I was a little weary of it and the size. But since the battery lasts for quite awhile on this thing, I just plug it in on my nightstand and it lasts me through the day.
My typical uses through the day are music, browsing the internet on breaks, work e-mail, picture management, and work e-mail (exchange push). I start work at about 8 o cloak and am usually done around 6. During this time theres constant use of e-mail and music, and when the day is finished I am around 35%-50% on battery depending on how the day has gone. When I am home, its light browsing and maybe a game for awhile.
The power adapter could become an issue if you plan on having it travel with you constantly, but in a fixed location for charging and nothing disturbing it, its not so much of an issue.

Are you seeing the artifacts? It is like a blip and then the app starts.

I know what you're talking about... but it only occurs for me with Dolphin. I used to use that as my main browser and pinch/zoom when it would try to reload the text/images it would be very jittery.
Again though it's the apps issue not the tablet or honeycomb.
I just had to change the default browser to load as a desktop and not as a mobile device.

i know this probably a common excuse, but HD Dolphin isnt made for honeycomb. Dolphin is making a tablet specific browser and hopefully it'll be release soon. i have both installed just to keep my browser option open.
as for the power button, i think it's the best place. what you dont release from the demo unit is that when actually have in your hands, it's completely different. if the power button was along the side anywhere, it could be easily hit. especially laying down it on it side or even having it in a tablet stand. i even have some issues with the volume button when i place it in my tablet stand.
besides all that, i contact Quickoffice and asked about whether they're developing a Honeycomb specific Quickoffice with editing and making new documents. they said yes

I use the stock browser with no problems.I don't see why they had Dolphin browser on the Xoom anyway because its not designed for honeycomb & furthermore those demo units are no way to judge the Xoom anyway.People push everything in sight on them & mess them up anyway.

I'm surprised they don't perform a reset every once in a while to clear up the device of any hangups.
Though I guess it makes for a pretty good stress test to see if it can handle anything that is thrown at it.

Mooem7 said:
I'm surprised they don't perform a reset every once in a while to clear up the device of any hangups.
Though I guess it makes for a pretty good stress test to see if it can handle anything that is thrown at it.
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yeah I put all kind of stuff on there testing stuff I read here.
Launcherpro
dolphin
spareparts
asee ( app i use for my home dvr)
The verizon store also had an ipad right next to it, and I do have an ipad now, but love my Droidx.
the other thing I seem to notice is that the colors are a little washed out on the xoom compared to the ipad and the ipad is much brighter, but that always is best especially late at night in the bed. The ipad is to brit on tne dimmest setting.
Man i just cant decide to drop the dough....

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Pinch to zoom issues.

Once again I am having issues with pinch to zoom on certain websites. This my second device, the first one I exchanged for this reason among others. For some reason it only happens on some websites not all. I have side loaded some apps, but every time I installed one I would check to see if it caused the issue but it never did. The phone itself is very snappy and has no lag unlike my first one. Someone suggested I disable plug-ins and that did not help. Here is a short video I made demonstrating this issue:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfP-4iP0n7o
I don't know, man. I would guess it has to be some of the side-loaded customizations you have running? Loading those same sites, my phone doesn't stutter nearly as much. I'm dropping a few frames at Phonedog, but that's about it.
I'm running stock with Fancy Widget, Pandora and Power Controls. The rest are shortcuts. I turned live wallpapers off and only have GPS enabled. TMOnews works just fine. Phonedog takes a ****, comparatively speaking, but is not unusable. If I had to guess, I would say it's running at about 24FPS with pinch-to-zoom on Phonedog. My iPhone does the same with that site, so I don't think it's the phone, necessarily. I think it has more to do with the rescaling of everything on that entire, stupid page. It's a terribly designed website, really. But yours is definitely 'chunky' in performance on those pages.
Try testing with stock settings to see if it's the phone itself or software that's giving you trouble. I would guess it's something that's running in the background.
Hope this helps.
It's a flash issue. I removed the flash plugin and player using root explorer and it fixed that issue. I also noticed my browser doesn't crash as much anymore.
What boggles me is that everything was working fine yesterday. I didn't want to root till all the fixes came out for this phone but oh well, guess I'll take the plunge.
It doesn't surprise me one bit if you have problems with Phonedog. That website has performed piss poor for the past month. It takes like 30 seconds to load on my home computer. I actually stopped going to it.

[Q] Did Acer ruin honeycomb?

Problems I've got with the Acer A500:
GPS is very weak. I get the best reception with the back of the unit facing the sky but in normal orientation I'm lucky to get 5 sats.
Compass doesn't work, always 90deg off
Digitizer unresponsive 3 times, had to power off each time. Strangely enough, the last time this happened the buttons at the bottom (home, menu, etc) still worked but nothing responded when tapped on the main screen area.
Have to be careful about plugging and unplugging items while the device screen is off. The headset icon is still showing in the tray after having disconnected a cable last night when the screen was off. Have seen problems where external USB devices aren't scanned if the screen is off.
System shut down 1 time after showing a low power notice. I was at 80%. Haven't had this happen again.
Market, Maps, Firefox crash a lot. The latter is probably Mozilla's fault but the core apps shouldn't be this crash-happy.
Bluetooth sharing only shows visible devices and not paired devices. What's the F-ing point of pairing if I have to make a device visible before I can send a file to it?
No media scanner notification. It takes a while to scan external USB media and there's no indication the scanning is going on. The only indication that it's done is when media starts appearing in apps like gallery. On older revs of the OS there is a notice that scanning is ongoing.
Copy/paste annoying. Especially that you can't paste if there's no text in your editor!!! In 2.2 you tap once to bring up the picker/caret (don't know what the google term is) and you tap that to get a popup menu for copy/paste/delete. On the Acer you have to double-tap to select text and only then do you get a menu on the top of the screen. Trouble is, if you have no text in your document you can't paste because there's no text to select!
Can't turn the d**n sound off on the camera.
Have to drill down into the settings turn the "ringer" off to mute the system. Why isn't there a dropdown icon for that?
Some of these are certainly Acer's fault and are related to hardware specific to this device. The UI elements I'm left wondering about. This is the only Gingerbread device I've really used and I can't tell how much is default behavior and how much Acer messed with the OS and borked it.
It's possible I've become spoiled by the devs on XDA. I'm coming from a Vibrant and the dev action is furious with that device. I've regularly upgraded my device with new ROMs on the order of every 2-3 weeks since October and I'm currently using 2.2.1 on my phone.
Given that the bootloader is locked (and encrypted?) I'm thinking dev action isn't going to happen real soon and I'm further thinking about returning this. I hate the idea of doing that because in a lot of ways this is a really nice tablet. It's got the form factor and weight I want. It's responsive. wifi is good enough for my purposes and I can carry it throughout home and work with no connection problems. I've found ways to make it part of my device chain (doc markup, blogging, reading, music playing) and the price was was low enough for me to give it a try. For the most part I like the device.
Trouble is, the bugs are like having someone standing next to you randomly poking you in the ribs. It's not enough to call the police but if he doesn't stop I'm going to punch him in the nose. With the Acer the bugs aren't bad enough for me to throw it out the window but they're getting bad enough that this thing may get returned.
For those in the know, how much of what I've complained about is normal Gingerbread and how much has Acer likely borked?
For reference my kernel is 2.6.36.3-00001-g9b3ce2b and build is Acer_A500_1.104.02_COM_GEN1
michaelh99 said:
Problems I've got with the Acer A500:
GPS is very weak. I get the best reception with the back of the unit facing the sky but in normal orientation I'm lucky to get 5 sats.
Compass doesn't work, always 90deg off
Digitizer unresponsive 3 times, had to power off each time. Strangely enough, the last time this happened the buttons at the bottom (home, menu, etc) still worked but nothing responded when tapped on the main screen area.
Have to be careful about plugging and unplugging items while the device screen is off. The headset icon is still showing in the tray after having disconnected a cable last night when the screen was off. Have seen problems where external USB devices aren't scanned if the screen is off.
System shut down 1 time after showing a low power notice. I was at 80%. Haven't had this happen again.
Market, Maps, Firefox crash a lot. The latter is probably Mozilla's fault but the core apps shouldn't be this crash-happy.
Bluetooth sharing only shows visible devices and not paired devices. What's the F-ing point of pairing if I have to make a device visible before I can send a file to it?
No media scanner notification. It takes a while to scan external USB media and there's no indication the scanning is going on. The only indication that it's done is when media starts appearing in apps like gallery. On older revs of the OS there is a notice that scanning is ongoing.
Copy/paste annoying. Especially that you can't paste if there's no text in your editor!!! In 2.2 you tap once to bring up the picker/caret (don't know what the google term is) and you tap that to get a popup menu for copy/paste/delete. On the Acer you have to double-tap to select text and only then do you get a menu on the top of the screen. Trouble is, if you have no text in your document you can't paste because there's no text to select!
Can't turn the d**n sound off on the camera.
Have to drill down into the settings turn the "ringer" off to mute the system. Why isn't there a dropdown icon for that?
Some of these are certainly Acer's fault and are related to hardware specific to this device. The UI elements I'm left wondering about. This is the only Gingerbread device I've really used and I can't tell how much is default behavior and how much Acer messed with the OS and borked it.
It's possible I've become spoiled by the devs on XDA. I'm coming from a Vibrant and the dev action is furious with that device. I've regularly upgraded my device with new ROMs on the order of every 2-3 weeks since October and I'm currently using 2.2.1 on my phone.
Given that the bootloader is locked (and encrypted?) I'm thinking dev action isn't going to happen real soon and I'm further thinking about returning this. I hate the idea of doing that because in a lot of ways this is a really nice tablet. It's got the form factor and weight I want. It's responsive. wifi is good enough for my purposes and I can carry it throughout home and work with no connection problems. I've found ways to make it part of my device chain (doc markup, blogging, reading, music playing) and the price was was low enough for me to give it a try. For the most part I like the device.
Trouble is, the bugs are like having someone standing next to you randomly poking you in the ribs. It's not enough to call the police but if he doesn't stop I'm going to punch him in the nose. With the Acer the bugs aren't bad enough for me to throw it out the window but they're getting bad enough that this thing may get returned.
For those in the know, how much of what I've complained about is normal Gingerbread and how much has Acer likely borked?
For reference my kernel is 2.6.36.3-00001-g9b3ce2b and build is Acer_A500_1.104.02_COM_GEN1
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I'm not sure if you know this or not, but tablets and Honeycomb are pretty new.
rorytmeadows said:
I'm not sure if you know this or not, but tablets and Honeycomb are pretty new.
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Yeah, I'm aware. How does that apply to my questions & issues with the A500?
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Yeah, I'm aware. How does that apply to my questions & issues with the A500?
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Well, I think your thread is misleading. Tablets are new and there are going to be flaws in new products. That's why you don't buy the first new model of a car. But if you're going to, then understand there is always risk.
1. I have had no problems with the GPS.
2. I have had problems with the compass, but nothing unusual for a digital compass.
3. Unresponsiveness happens with pretty much every device. Mine has been unresponsive like 5 times already, but a power down and then up again fixes it beautifully. It's like a nice reminder to clear the system and make it run faster. This doesn't necessarily have anything to do with Acer. It could be Honeycomb.
4. Apps crashing. Happens. I'd think that it's Honeycomb, rather than Acer.
5. I've seen the headset icon on when I didn't have any headphones in. Oh no! Stop the presses! This occurs, sure, but that could be Honeycomb, not Acer. Also, are we sure it's not the music icon?
6. Bluetooth profiles are limited. Sure. But maybe that's a reminder to us all that Bluetooth is awful technology. This one is probably Acer.
7. Copy and paste, although annoying, isn't Acer.
8. Right now, it's not proper to open the bootloader for everyone. Don't hold that against any company.
Most of the things you mentioned really might have to do with Honeycomb rather than Acer. So don't trash the wrong company.
Now given that it's Honeycomb instead, it's new. It will have bugs and problems. Sit and wait or learn the trade and get in there and fix it.
Or wait until a future generation product.
Problems I've got with the Acer A500:
Digitizer unresponsive 3 times, had to power off each time. Strangely enough, the last time this happened the buttons at the bottom (home, menu, etc) still worked but nothing responded when tapped on the main screen area.
NEVER OCCUR for me
Have to be careful about plugging and unplugging items while the device screen is off. The headset icon is still showing in the tray after having disconnected a cable last night when the screen was off. Have seen problems where external USB devices aren't scanned if the screen is off.
NEVER OCCUR for me
System shut down 1 time after showing a low power notice. I was at 80%. Haven't had this happen again.
NEVER OCCUR for me
Market, Maps, Firefox crash a lot. The latter is probably Mozilla's fault but the core apps shouldn't be this crash-happy.
Just restore to factory default or clear the data in "manage application" can solve the problem
Can't turn the d**n sound off on the camera.
Root the device and remove the sound using root explorer
Have to drill down into the settings turn the "ringer" off to mute the system. Why isn't there a dropdown icon for that?
when you press vol +/-, there is a small icon on the right and you can adjust 3 volume settings
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Ya, I'm pretty much in the rorytmeadows and ardatdat camp. Considering Acer did very little to their OEM copy, I'd place the blame for a lot of the issues on HC.
The compass is definitely finicky. I've only ever got a solid read when my GPS was tracking - when it's not, the compass is definitely off (using GPS Essentials here which could also be an app issue). If there is a common degree variance, this can be coded in/out. Also, orientation matter - whether you have it in portrait, facing you, landscape facing up... There's a difference and the gyro checks.
I understand where some of you guys are coming from re. new releases having bugs. I can't accept that viewpoint. I paid for this device and while a few bugs are to be expected these days, some of the problems amount to beta level bugs that should have never left the factory.
If there were going to be regular releases of updates I'd feel differently but it seems clear that releases will likely only come from the devs and only after jumping through the hurdles and hoops that Acer has put in their way.
I think the A500 was worth trying but I'm still not sure it's worth keeping.
A BETA bug is something that is consistent (across all testware) and repeatable. Nothing you listed falls near that.
gammaRascal said:
A BETA bug is something that is consistent (across all testware) and repeatable. Nothing you listed falls near that.
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I think we'll have to agree to disagree. The general level of bugginess shown by the complaints in this forum alone cause me to classify this (and many other android devices) as beta.
With so many people willing to be paying testers, the manufacturers don't have any incentive to behave differently.
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I think we'll have to agree to disagree.
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Ya, but... Nothing you listed is consistent and repeatable... Where exactly is the disagreement?
The general level of bugginess shown by the complaints in this forum alone cause me to classify this (and many other android devices) as beta.
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I don't see it. Maybe I'm biased *shrug* The majority (not all, of course) complaints or issues with the a500 (be them HW, SW or HC related) on this (and other) forum are sporadic and inconclusive. Not a lot of serious testing happening and a complaint like 'my gps can't see any satellites' doesn't mean a whole lot without more granular info. It doesn't help and it certainly shouldn't be used as part of a rationale. You gotta take those kinds of half-thought out complaints with a grain of salt.
With so many people willing to be paying testers, the manufacturers don't have any incentive to behave differently.
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I read this all the time - with games mostly, but the argument is the same.
How when a new game is released (pick your poison) you're bound to get a very small, thought vocal, minority who dig their nails into the support section complaining about 'players are paying to be testers' - or - 'their computer should be able to play it' etc. The argument being, 'it's suppose to act the way I want it to act' when in fact, that is never the case. With games, with hardware - software. 'It's suppose to act the way they want it to act' - We're just consumers. We consume. They create, we consume.
Now, I'm not trying to discount the importance of your view (I know it reads like I am but I'm not trying too - just trying to further the discussion). You're obviously having issues with the a500 and far be it for me to make lite of them. I think what is key here is that, for the majority of us, there aren't any of these kinds of issues and that, of the ones you listed, few are consistent and repeatable.
So I chalk it up to one of two things - you got a bum tablet or it's user error.
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Ya, but... Nothing you listed is consistent and repeatable... Where exactly is the disagreement?
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Most of the problems are very repeatable on my machine. In the end, that's the only one I care about and the only one that matters to me.
Not a lot of serious testing happening .. You gotta take those kinds of half-thought out complaints with a grain of salt.
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You're mistaking brief descriptions for incomplete testing or "thoughts.". I haven't described my testing methodology nor put down all the tests I've done because I'm not game for writing a paper on the subject.
I've been around quite a while and have been in development for decades and done my time in QA. I know how to test. Which is part of the point. I'm not running into these problems while doing things that qualify as something a user shouldn't do and I'm really not interested in helping Acer or Google iron out the bugs in their system.
Hell, I just did a factory reset and without installing any apps I had the Market crash twice while just browsing my paid apps list.
The argument being, 'it's suppose to act the way I want it to act' when in fact, that is never the case. With games, with hardware - software. 'It's suppose to act the way they want it to act' - We're just consumers. We consume. They create, we consume.
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Yeah, know where you're coming from. My complaint isn't the same.
I want it to behave the way it used to
My UI complains stem from behavior that was present in 2.2x and is very different but harder to use in 3.x. They futzed with the UI for no good reason IMO.
So I chalk it up to one of two things - you got a bum tablet or it's user error.
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Well, it's not user error
I've just factory reset the thing and I'm going to spend a few hours using just the apps I can't live without and leave off the questionable utilities that might be destabilizing the system (widgetlocker, stuff like that) and see where that gets me.
So far it's not good though. 2 market crashes with a stock system.
All very fair and understandable. I've had my share of freezes/lockups and FC. There is no doubt that updates are needed. I'm just not convinced the majority of the issues are Acer related, but rather, Honeycomb related.
Hey Michael do us a favor and return it. I am having none of the issues you have listed with mine with the exception of some FC apps, but I attribute this to the apps not being optimized for HC since the tablet specific apps work perfect.
Sounds like you got a bum tablet, so you have 3 options. 1) keep it and keep complaining and hope you or another dev can fix your problems. 2) exchange it for a new 3) return it and wait a year or so til HC is more stable and out of this "beta" phase.
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michaelg1030 said:
Hey Michael do us a favor and return it.
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Do you a favor? In other words, stfu?
BTW michaelh99, I appreciate the fact that you're not flying off half-cocked and taking anything I (or others) have said out of context. It's important for mature and focused discussion to stay calm and proactive - with the goal being, resolution - not argument.
If bugs were completely out of technology before it was released to the public then we wouldn't have technology.
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BTW michaelh99, I appreciate the fact that you're not flying off half-cocked and taking anything I (or others) have said out of context. It's important for mature and focused discussion to stay calm and proactive - with the goal being, resolution - not argument.
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Thanks.
I'm not really expecting people to supply resolutions to the problems I've seen. It looks like most of them are problems with the first release. Some could be due to my personal usage patterns (apps I have installed) but others are clearly out of box bugs.
It may be that I need to bite the bullet and get a larger version of my phone (Samsung), which I've been very happy with. Like many people I wanted to pay as little as I could. May be that I went too low for my expectations.
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If bugs were completely out of technology before it was released to the public then we wouldn't have technology.
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If I can crash the market by browsing my paid apps after having done a factory reset and without having installed anything I would say they haven't met the minimum necessary to release the device.
The market is a core component of the system. If that's unstable, the whole device is suspect.
Why did you start this thread knowing that no matter what good things are said about the tablet, nothing would change your mind. If you are not happy with the device then return it and go on. The majority of the owners here are very satisfied with both the hardware and software of the Acer. I don't think anyone was expecting HC to run as smooth as apple os and if these were your expectations then you will never be happy for the time being.
Again, I'm assuming you started this thread hoping someone would agree with you, but the fact is that most of us do not. Your problems are way out of the ordinary and for all intended purposes unacceptable in this device. So again, return it. Your not doing yourself any service by keeping a faulty product.
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Good point michaelg1030.
michaelh99 said:
If I can crash the market by browsing my paid apps after having done a factory reset and without having installed anything I would say they haven't met the minimum necessary to release the device.
The market is a core component of the system. If that's unstable, the whole device is suspect.
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michaelh99 have you considered posting a bug report to Google? For what it's worth, it may at least bring the issues you're having to their attention. It's placating but it can't hurt.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/list

ICS Bugs. Gallery refresh and mkv/avi videos

not the kinda thing i want to write up first thing in the morning but i want to see if i'm alone here or if these are release wide bugs in which case hopefully asus will fix them.
for some perspective, i have a galaxy nexus and that does not have any of these issues.
Gallery: i downloaded a few files off of the internet and then never showed up in the browser, even after forcing a refresh and erasing the data they did not show up. After rebooting they showed up, but on first boot nothing would work.
MKVs/AVIs. diceplayer
So 720p MKVs are even worse than before. they lag so bad that it makes honeycomb look good. 720p avi file plays perfectly.
standard def avi files in diceplayer and moboplayer are being sped up just slightly. kinda like looking at a 120hz tv. was not like this in honeycomb.
And on my Galaxy Nexus these files play perfectly in diceplayer and moboplayer, so i doubt it's an ICS issue, but an asus issue.
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curious to see if anyone else has these issues. honestly very upset with the video issues. i was hoping that ICS would finally allow me to play my hd videos, and now my HD and SD videos are screwed up. almost like asus is forcing me to buy the prime if i want to watch videos, which i refuse to do
Two bugs I've seen so far:
-Battery meter taps out at 99%... It will not say 100. The lockscreen says Charged, but check in Battery and it says 99%, also in the notification area in the lower right.
-Two hours later, the Sync Browser in the Accounts and Sync is still thinking...
fatesealer said:
Two bugs I've seen so far:
-Battery meter taps out at 99%... It will not say 100. The lockscreen says Charged, but check in Battery and it says 99%, also in the notification area in the lower right.
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I have the same on my Moto Defy with ICS. It only reaches 100% when charger connected but will drop to 99% if removed. I guess, "It's not bug, it's a feature". You can try Battery Calibration if it never reaches 100%.
battery charge
My nexus S never charges over 96%. Then I found its a "feature". It is meant to prolong battery lifespan.
Stock internet explorer turns off by it self.
fatesealer said:
Two bugs I've seen so far:
-Battery meter taps out at 99%... It will not say 100. The lockscreen says Charged, but check in Battery and it says 99%, also in the notification area in the lower right.
-Two hours later, the Sync Browser in the Accounts and Sync is still thinking...
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Please read up on LiPo batteries. It is working as intended. LiPo's are not meant to be ever fully charged.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium-ion_polymer_battery
People having problems with things shutting down, done a factory reset?
I know it's a huge pain, but the lag/stopping of programs I was having appears (so far) to have been solved by a wipe, and re-install of all my apps.
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Please read up on LiPo batteries. It is working as intended. LiPo's are not meant to be ever fully charged.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium-ion_polymer_battery
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Ok, as a remote control hobbyist who uses lipos all the time, this is just not true. There is no reason why at a certain voltage (4.2 per lipo cell) that the TF should read 100%, this is not normal behavior..but 1% is a negligible drop in battery performance, but could only get worse.
My major bug I discovered- Do NOT use ANY LCD density apps, it will severely mess up you keyboard scaling while not affecting anything else, so I used another one and my launcher is FC'ing will not even boot into it. Time to factory restore..
Factory restore worked, did not even lose root access, but in the process discovered two things, one cool, the other not so much.
1: Asus task manager widget!!
2: tapping VERY quickly seems to be registered as a long press..try it on a widget, just tap it very fast, see if it lags up and then highlights as if it is ready to be dragged, the next tap on the screen will be seen as a drop. Apparently there are touch screen issues even within the official build..CONFIRMED.
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2: tapping VERY quickly seems to be registered as a long press..try it on a widget, just tap it very fast, see if it lags up and then highlights as if it is ready to be dragged, the next tap on the screen will be seen as a drop. Apparently there are touch screen issues even within the official build..CONFIRMED.
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I can't seem to duplicate this error.
Regarding the widgets, I'm not so sure that it's a bug. Now I hate to harp that drum but it's very consistent in the way it acts, and I've only found that behaviour with widgets specifically. In fact, the whole tablet runs like a bloody dream after the update, with touch reaction being one of the improved things. Regarding trouble with video in dice, I'm lucky to not have the same fate. Then again I've always been on stock.
Holy ****, I'm actually blown away. Swiftkey feels so much better now too, and there's absolutely no typing lag in chrome, which was the first thing I downloaded. Wow
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But Chrome will never support Flash. Weh.
I as well am blown away.. Never going back to HC lol! ICS is just so smooth, and even with a couple quirks, better than HC
The quirks I see could possibly be with not having rebooted since install, so grain of salt with these please:
Slight lag when opening some programs that are not in memory
slight type lag if other things are going on (picky, I know)
bit of an install lag
Its damned good, but why oh why does the bloody GMail widget *STILL* not update/refresh properly?? i.e. what *should* happen is that new emails arrive, and the widget refreshes highlighting the new email in bold and showing an unread count..
Nope.. no dice.. seems to suffer from exactly the same behavior as the old Honeycomb widget, i.e. it updates some of the time at best (a force close on "Launcher" will cause it to refresh just as before).. In the grand scheme of things, this is small potatoes but it would've been nice if it just *worked*
In other news, the stock browser seems great and typing lag is definitely a thing of the past on forum sites like XDA
jms_uk said:
Its damned good, but why oh why does the bloody GMail widget *STILL* not update/refresh properly?? i.e. what *should* happen is that new emails arrive, and the widget refreshes highlighting the new email in bold and showing an unread count..
Nope.. no dice.. seems to suffer from exactly the same behavior as the old Honeycomb widget, i.e. it updates some of the time at best (a force close on "Launcher" will cause it to refresh just as before).. In the grand scheme of things, this is small potatoes but it would've been nice if it just *worked*
In other news, the stock browser seems great and typing lag is definitely a thing of the past on forum sites like XDA
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as far as email widget, do you have push notifications on for gmail?
panorama mode doesn't work with the new camera app, it just shows a black screen. Has anyone else experienced this ?
I also got a random reboot, which is new for me,, as HC never did that.
Another thing I've noticed: When I do a shutdown, I have to plug in power to get it to come bakc on. No amoutn of holding or pressing the power button will work without power applied.. Doesnt bode well for me, as it happened also on spark rom when I had it. Seem that i'm the only one with this issue :/
No sound of any kind system, media or otherwise. Silent mode is not on. Really weird. Had no problem with the tablet playing/making sounds prior to the ICS update.
Anybody dock since ics? Im not seeing my battery info for the dock in notifications, just that it is docked.
Some of the buttons(namely the settings button) dont work or dont work the same. Maybe there is suppose to be a firmware update? Is there away for it to force a check for an update of the docks firmware?
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as far as email widget, do you have push notifications on for gmail?
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Yep, all enabled. As I said above, it works *sometimes* and always after you force close Launcher, but we shouldn't have to do that..
Had a look around, and irritatingly some people get the same problem and some don't so there's no conclusive answer
G+ keeps closing
I did not notice any sort of issue with dice and 720p mkv files. Should I be looking for something specific ? (These profiles are baseline as high causes artifacts under hc).

New TF300T on stock ICS 4.0 - Initial review

Hi guys. I tried looking for a review that spoke specifically about how the TF300 works with ICS, but I didn't come across any. Maybe I didn't look hard enough . Anyhow - here are some newbie thoughts on the device. Having had it for three days. But I will try to keep this more software, rather than hardware oriented.
I got the dock as well. Initially, the power mode was set to balanced, but I felt like the device was a bit slow in response, so I set it to full performance mode. With that on, the power on the dock drains fairly quickly. I lost about 20%+ dock charge to the tablet in about an hour of light use: browsing with streaming radio in the background (via TuneIn). GPS off. Low brightness setting.
The browser is just ok, but not great for me. Many sites default to the mobile version though (as to be expected). Haven't figured out how to change the home page from Asus as yet. Pages seem to load a bit slower than on my Motorola Milestone 1 on gingerbread (CM7) or on my iPad1 on the same wifi connection.
I tried to maneuver between Maps, Browser and Polaris Sheet without an external mouse - and this was a bit tricky. I had problems selecting, copying and pasting text from one to the other. It doesn't seem to accept the typical Ctrl+C or Ctrl+V functions either. Using Polaris Sheet is not all that intuitive, and responds a bit different from traditional excel, but still useful.
I installed Netflix on it. On both my phone and iPad, scrolling left-right or up down is alot more fluid, while on the TF - it's a bit choppy. This is on a 5meg DSL connection. When I click on videos on the TF300 it sometimes take a few seconds or a few tries before it does anything. Also, during playback, when I try to scrub, it doesn't show me frames as it does on the other two devices (or as it does on a PC). I also do not see the language selection pop-up. It might be that Netflix itself is not optimized for ICS?
I inserted a standard 2GB SD card from a Canon digital camera into the keyboard slot. It saw the card and the first two folders in the hierarchy. However, when I tried to access the folder with the pictures (DCIM) - it just sat there thinking.....and thinking. I tried to access from File Manager and Polaris - and neither way worked. . I didn't try another SD card from another camera or device as yet.
I tried skype on it as well. The self picture compensates the exposure a bit too much if it detects a bright area behind you and you find that your picture (and resulting feed to the other end) comes out rather dark. There should be some way to adjust that, without having to point the thing downward or away from any background light source. A workaround will be to turn of any lights behind you (if you're indoors). If you are outdoors, I don't know how it will behave.
All in all, it's ok so far, and I still need to use it some more to see if there are tweaks to help with some of the problems I've encountered so far and review some of the tips that are out there. I will update this thread later on too.

Randomly low performance?

Hey I just got my Z4. Upgraded from a Z2 Play. I bought direct from Motorola off their website. I'm having really strange 2D performance issues, and was wondering if anyone else is having similar issues because they seem outright stupid for a phone as beefy as this one is to be doing this.
OK, so, this is going to sound super vague because I did try to nail it down with a ctrace, but wasn't able to come up with anything conclusive.
Sometimes, when drawing 2D only, my phone will drop to 30fps or lower. This happens in both in the launcher/normal apps and games (Fire Emblem Heroes)
However, when the phone is drawing in 3D (Dragalia Lost) the phone never drops below 60fps, ever, for any reason.
I have tried the developer option to force 2D Drawing on the GPU. This does not change the behavior at all.
This happens regardless of what MotoMod I have attached (None, Car Dock, Projector, 360 Camera)
This seems really weird to me. The phone isn't getting hot. It happens both plugged in and unplugged. Fresh reboots and not. What's interesting about this is it's exactly the opposite of my Z2 Play, which Dragalia F***ing hated (It would run fine for anywhere from 5 to 30 minutes, and then it would crash) but FEH would run fine on, and never ever have issues, ever, even if the phone hadn't been rebooted in like, 3 months. And the Z2 Play is just generally a weaker, crappier device in every way (Except Ram, I had the 64gb/4gb model of the Z2 Play) than the Z4, I kind of "expect" the Z4 to just do everything the Z2 did but better.
I'm not a particularly heavy user (I upgraded from my Z2 Play because the battery was expanding, not because it was insufficient) and both of the games mentioned are the only things I do on my phone that could be considered to "Push" the phone in any way (Push in quotes because Dragalia and FEH are both REALLY light games.)
Has anyone else noticed any strangeness like this?
I have the same issue, and yes, it's really hard to describe and difficult to determine what causes it.
What it actually looks like to me is that the digitizer randomly goes into a powersaving mode and samples input at a lower frequency. When scrolling through any app, if you hold your finger down, it'll make it look like it's running at 30fps or less. But if you fling a page that can scroll, for the most part the scrolling animation will be full 60fps.
I know for certain that if you reboot the phone, you're more likely to trigger it soon after boot. But, if you suffer through the agonizing experience, the phone will eventually fix itself for the next week or so before it happens again.
Here's the weird part, not everyone is affected by the weird performance. My theory is most people can't detect it or don't care, or there's a particular app that is prompting the digitizer to behave badly. No idea what it is though.
damentz said:
I have the same issue, and yes, it's really hard to describe and difficult to determine what causes it.
What it actually looks like to me is that the digitizer randomly goes into a powersaving mode and samples input at a lower frequency. When scrolling through any app, if you hold your finger down, it'll make it look like it's running at 30fps or less. But if you fling a page that can scroll, for the most part the scrolling animation will be full 60fps.
I know for certain that if you reboot the phone, you're more likely to trigger it soon after boot. But, if you suffer through the agonizing experience, the phone will eventually fix itself for the next week or so before it happens again.
Here's the weird part, not everyone is affected by the weird performance. My theory is most people can't detect it or don't care, or there's a particular app that is prompting the digitizer to behave badly. No idea what it is though.
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It's definitely not the digitizer though! I have some data! Fire Emblem Heroes has an autobattle mode, This is as likely to happen during an autobattle when I am providing no input (Phone sitting on desk/just watching while holding) as it is when I'm scrolling through my list of apps.
Same problem here, pretty sluggish experience compared to my girlfriend's G7 Plus.
I've noticed that since the latest update, this issue has gone away for me. Anyone else confirm?
I don't think it was the update, but certain apps seem to exaggerate performance issues. I fixed mine by marking Pokemon Go (the only 3d game I play), as "Restricted" under battery usage settings.
I've been testing this configuration for about 2 days now and it looks like that solved it.
Just to set the record straight, the Android 10 update fixed the random performance problems that have plagued the device so far. There is some hitching right after a reboot, but if you let the phone settle, it's fine until the next reboot.

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