OK
before this come out
iknow this has been done before, people linking on here to a petition website with the signatures on
but iwant to try having the petition in this sticky so we can see the numbers
we visit this site everyday so there no need to go to other sites just to see the numbers
And i will be sending this thread to them when the numbers get up
dont post more than once, and dont post to say its not going to work
Just to say though its not that im not happy with the phone, the phone rocks even in its current incarnation, hat i hate is being fobbed of with crappy excuses. thats why im doing this because instead iof saying we would rather not invest in OLD hardware they say there 2.1 is bettter than stock 2.2
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The reason we shouldnt be asking for fgroyo is because theyre not gonna update an old phone to an OS there new phones have on them
This is my Entry
Maybe if there is enough we can get their attention
Dean Thompson
Unless x10 gets froyo I'll never buy another SE
I will not buy a SE phone ever again unless the X10 gets Froyo or beyond!
If any one on SE tried out the ROM's found here they'd know it's totall bull**** when they say their 2.1 is on par with a vanilla 2.2, i love the design and the hardware of SE even their software! As long as it is up to date, if they learned this there would be no competition for them in the Android market.
Sign me up for 2.2+ and beyond.
Froyo for X10!!!!!!!!!
I was not sure whether I go for rooting or I will wait for Froyo. (only what I want at least is app to SD) And I was like well, they just updated to 2.1 they not gonna release 2.2 anytime soon, but never????!!!!!!!!! What a F..k? I love the design of X10 that's why I bought it instead of HTC even with lower software! but this is F...Up! Give as Froyo now!!!!!!!
however im gonna leave you guys soon to get a Incredible S, you still have my vote, and for SE i hope you realise i will switch brand because of your stupidity.
SE you are more than stupid. You've designed a great phone then ruined it. Wake up.
+1 to everything previously stated.
The X10 is an amazing beautiful phone... but the 2.1 ROM on it is holding it back.
Sony's lack of attention to their products has stopped me from getting the Arc or any of the future hardware. I like their phones, but they can't handle Android... how sad.
Count me in..
my vote on that!!!
This was probably the last time i ever buyed something from SE
before i had 3 diffrent 850i SE that was broken from factory and now
this thing with not upgrade the x10i higher than 2.1 is just to mutch.
/signed
Another Thompson on the poll, but Deon this time.
With my other SE purchases there was a clear upgrade to the hardware. But the X10 is still on par with the upcoming crop and I love the way it feels in my hands still. Without further support I'm going to follow my gf's lead on my next upgrade and make mine HTC most likely.
Excellent thread.
I have used SE products W810, K790, W580, W760, C902, X1 and X10.
X1 + no winmo 6.5 and X10 + no android 2.2 has shown that SE would rather extort for a new device as opposed to providing adequate OS updates.
Lack of support after relatively short period of time has moved me to Samsung.
My loyalty to SE would return with improved support.
signed/Mike Augustine
I would say, why crave on 2.2 when we know that the new sony devices will be running on 2.3?
It'll be easy for xda and/or sony devs to work out how to port the rom to our x10s as they are all sony phones with essentially the same hardware capabilities
count me in
I'm In! Even if in Guatemala there are not too many X10 Owners.... C'mon SE push our beautiful X10's to the limit!
Jim
aR_ChRiS said:
I would say, why crave on 2.2 when we know that the new sony devices will be running on 2.3?
It'll be easy for xda and/or sony devs to work out how to port the rom to our x10s as they are all sony phones with essentially the same hardware capabilities
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Well theyre not gonna offer us an OS thats on their brand new devices. They shoul theorically have put us on to froyo then gone no further i can kinda live with that
but whats happened is they took soooo long with 2.1 they missed the deadline for 2.2 and dumped us
count me in
S.E. 2.2 is faster than 2.1 so please update my android phone......
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X10 is going to release very soon but it has already a lot of rivals: Google N1, HTC Desire, Motorola Shores (also going to be released soon)
So which Android phone is a true Phone?
The Droid.
I think the desire stands out thanks to HTC's sense interface.
X10 got Mediascape which easily beats everything else out there be it on Android or WinMo or iPhone OS or WebOS + got Timescape which is pretty much a match or better than WebOS great communication UI or better than the rest (Droid/Motoblur or iPhone's missing "unified communication")... the only negativ thing is running on DOnut (v1.6) but SE already said it will be updated - my money is on X10 and a 2.1 update by the Summer...
The Final retail-rom (not the one engadget reviewed) seems to be great! Some reviewers in the Netherlands already have them and they are very impressed by the speed, the screen and media/timescape!
Yes, I heard the same thing from a friend running it since last Fall... heck, when I tried X10 back in November it wasn't that bad already... and it's been 4+ months now, I'm sure they worked out all the kinks - as a matter of fact that was the official reason for postponing the launch date, to make it absolutely bug-free.
SE is top-notch when it comes to UI design, I always said it - it's just they have been always stretched too thin and never had the time to properly finish everything. It's a (resource) management issue and I think it is the same type confusion that caused the demise of Sony during the past decade.
SE should settle on ~2 platforms (plus their proprietary one for the integrated and lower-tier phones) and cut the number of concurrent models in half but every new release should be near flawless, as bug-free as literally possible because when you are asking $500-$1k for a phone it's better be perfect or you will lose its angry owner as a customer forever...
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The Droid.
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EW! how can you even say that's something worth holding in your hand. craptacular device. by craptacular company..
Well, I am using HTC Legend, and today I got SE X10, so what can I say, X10 has impressive screen but I am worry because it is TFT (and Legend has AMOLED), also Android 1.6 is not a match to an Android 2.1 in Legend (with and without HTC Sense).
Timescape and Mediascape are good and easy ideas, and they are beating HTC Sense in way of multimedia and friends stream (HTC Sense has Friends stream which dosent work so fine).
So, X10 is a preatty good smartphone, here in Croatia it will cost about 4500 kunas about 840 USD.
So, until they release Android 2.1 update on Xperia X10, it will be just a good smartphone with big potential, so SE if you are reading this, go to work!
There's nothing wrong with a TFT screen.
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EW! how can you even say that's something worth holding in your hand. craptacular device. by craptacular company..
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Good luck with getting an upgrade to the OS by the Summer as SE themselves have said it won't be till Q3 oh and by the time SE implement 2.1 what version will the others be at by then?.
I must say from reading your posts throughout the X10 section you seem quite the SE zealot but seriously anyone that bought a W950 and then also bought a W960 lacks a certain credibility IMO.
As for your claims about Timescape and Mediascape just being the best how's the Crystal ball doing as from what I've read they both suffer when updating. They may look pretty and functional when not very full but once they have lots of data to deal with they slow right down. Maybe you should have a device in hand to see just how well it performs when full of data before claiming it to be best.
Personally SE lost me from UIQ3 and nothing they have done since then has tempted me back till now either. It will be interesting to see if they do manage to actually launch a relatively bug free device for once. As although this is there aim they seem to keep falling short of this objective, it will interesting to see just how well the X10 does and what ordinary non SE fans make of it.
Marc
Looks amazing! Cant wait to get it!
beetleman said:
Well, I am using HTC Legend, and today I got SE X10, so what can I say, X10 has impressive screen but I am worry because it is TFT (and Legend has AMOLED), also Android 1.6 is not a match to an Android 2.1 in Legend (with and without HTC Sense).
Timescape and Mediascape are good and easy ideas, and they are beating HTC Sense in way of multimedia and friends stream (HTC Sense has Friends stream which dosent work so fine).
So, X10 is a preatty good smartphone, here in Croatia it will cost about 4500 kunas about 840 USD.
So, until they release Android 2.1 update on Xperia X10, it will be just a good smartphone with big potential, so SE if you are reading this, go to work!
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whats up with having both the legend and the X10`? doesn't that get kinda expensive.
Anyways, I did like the HTC magic, untill it got thrown into the wall in anger, because I was pisst off at a friend
And I have always loved SE, unlike Nokia(that I used to like before) are they actually trying different OS's etc.
+ I feel like they have better designs etc.
not very expensive at all when you WIN both the phones. read prior posts
killerskincanoe said:
not very expensive at all when you WIN both the phones. read prior posts
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I know that, I read it in another thread a while after I posted this. So the "prior posts" thing, is kinda wrong to say.. since it wasn't mentioned in this thread.
And it wasn't posted in this thread, so I don't really see the big problem here.
I'm having my doubts, I'm actually thinking between the Nexus One and the X10, I'm currently liking the Droid due to the keyboard only because I email alot, and would not like to go for a blackberry.
The x10 seems fantastic, just that the absence of a physical qwerty may put me off.
droidzer said:
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The x10 seems fantastic, just that the absence of a physical qwerty may put me off.
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Indeed. Once you go physical QWERTY, you never go back !
This might sound stupid, but only reason I'd get X10 than other phones (like Galaxy S, Milestone, Desire etc.) is cos the X10 looks much better, and my 'blind loyalty' to SE. But in terms of specs/features... well... X10 is really lacking.
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This might sound stupid, but only reason I'd get X10 than other phones (like Galaxy S, Milestone, Desire etc.) is cos the X10 looks much better, and my 'blind loyalty' to SE. But in terms of specs/features... well... X10 is really lacking.
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I like to think so too..
wait a minute!!!
is this phone made by HTC??????
And also the acer phone?????
i thought they made there own phones..
dont they?
Hi all,
today I got a X10 unit (here in Croatia there was a press conference) and X10 come with localized Android 1.6 Cupcake operating system.
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I just put battery in side and connect to Internet.
Device is great, solid construction (I also have HTC Legend), it is fast, but without multitouch
Can you, please, confirm the presence of AWS (WDCMA-IV) 1700MHz band support?
BTW Android v1.5 was Cupcake, your X10 is running Donut.
PS: I don't give a flying f*ck about multitouch, it's a classic gimmick with no use for me - I prefer to be able use my phone with one hand instead of having to perform some two-handed gymnastics nonsensical gymnastics, only to gain nothing but lose safety when, say, I'm riding a train or driving a car or walking with my daughter holding her hand.
Tnx for correcting me, so where can I check AWS?
Well, I am playing with X10 for few hours, and I think that the main problem is 1.6 Android, in comparation with Legend (which I have) it is slightly slower. This can be seen in putting widgets.
What you see is the "Donut lag" - it is a common problem among Donut-based devices.
After someone releases a 2.x port it should be gone.
Well, we will sit and wait and I will continue to use my HTC Legend, hope to see upgrade rom from SE on 2.1
I know they will, it's only the question of when...
Retail version review from Stuff Mag:
anyway, they say that SE UI is pretty laggy...
Congratulations on your new device beetleman! Glad to see you went with an excellent choice. Hope you can include some more pictures soon.. Have you tried changing the background at all?
Thanks but I won this device and also HTC Legend, last week (what can I say, best week in my life- HTC Legend was in press conference,and SE Xperia x10 on SE event- I am ICT yournalist and editor in chief of Croatian e-zine about smartphones).
So I am very lucky, but as I said, it is good device, with big potential, so in comparation with Legend, Legend has smoother UI (HTC Sense) and implementation of services, but all thanks to 2.1 Eclair, so we wait update on X10.
Today I got him, so I will play with him a while, so we will se how it goes..
my main concern is TFT screen, because AMOLED screens are much better.
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my main concern is TFT screen, because AMOLED screens are much better.
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...until you step outside.
hehe, so TFT screen is better outside? I thought that AMOLED was better...
Hmm we will see soon, I drive miata, without roof in a sunny day, we will see
Congratulations !
Keep us informed.
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Retail version review from Stuff Mag:
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Man even SE temselves can't get it right. They've linked that video through thier own Twitter postings, yet it was posted on Feb. 19.
Stuff.tv's actual review (which they state is of a pre-release unit) is this one posted on Monday:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzqznTsA130
saltorio said:
Man even SE temselves can't get it right. They've linked that video through thier own Twitter postings, yet it was posted on Feb. 19.
Stuff.tv's actual review (which they state is of a pre-release unit) is this one posted on Monday:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzqznTsA130
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Ouch! I cannot watch this: her nails are truly disgusting... what a nasty, unattractive girl.
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Then I loled 5 minutes in front of this joke !
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$eriusly, SE...
Sent from my rooted x10i using Xda app
old news is old
They should change their name to $ony €ricsson.
Marketing ****...
freco said:
They should change their name to $ony €ricsson.
Marketing ****...
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Yes, that's the way I'll see them now, it will be hard to trust $€ now
That's just good business.. any business would do it.. I'm fairly confident in saying that they're not building phones just for the fun of it!!...
If Apple do this with another thing...
Oh!Wait!
Jobs always do something like this !
Μα τι καραγκιοζηδες θεε μου! τραγικοι!!
English forum.. so err.. yeah post in english so we can all read your post!
its not necessarily a marketing ploy to get more money, if anyone here has done any research or read about it they would know the x10 HD is the exact same phone as the x10 (hardware n all) it just has 2.1 (which supports hd video recording).
and obviously since the 2.1 update is supposed to come out next week they will be advertising it like crazy since its something people have been waiting for.
BULL3TPR00F said:
its not necessarily a marketing ploy to get more money, if anyone here has done any research or read about it they would know the x10 HD is the exact same phone as the x10 (hardware n all) it just has 2.1 (which supports hd video recording).
and obviously since the 2.1 update is supposed to come out next week they will be advertising it like crazy since its something people have been waiting for.
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Exactly. I don't get what the big deal. It's just a rebranding, just like how the HTC Magic was renamed the Magic+ here in Canada by Rogers when it got its Sense UI.
pointless thread, close it please :\
BULL3TPR00F said:
its not necessarily a marketing ploy to get more money, if anyone here has done any research or read about it they would know the x10 HD is the exact same phone as the x10 (hardware n all) it just has 2.1 (which supports hd video recording).
and obviously since the 2.1 update is supposed to come out next week they will be advertising it like crazy since its something people have been waiting for.
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If the point of marketing isn't to generate more money for your company, then what is it?
Sent from my rooted X10a using Tapatalk
Guys chill out! This should be considered great news for X10 owners, simply because if SE advertises the same X10 after the upgrade to 2.1 as a new phone. This means it will likely be upgraded to Froyo! Therefore, if it gets 2.2 you will also get 2.2 right ?
So actually this is good news, and it will be a pleasure if this device gets Froyo, because it rocks already! By the way if you don't mind me asking, where exactly did you capture this picture?
I also see it as a marketing strategy is simple you add something different to the existing product and ready .. thousands more sales.
but that comment you said you opened my eyes and you're right .. if Sonyericsson sell it as new phone is very possible that give new upgrade for the "new buyers"
Let's hope so! would be great news
sorry my bad english
Yes.. We can expect 2.2 at Q4 2024 from $€.
Good thought anyway.
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Translation (short of).
My God... what ash.... Tragic.
I see lots of mistreated and tortured owners of Sony X8 phones.
People bought them in hope to replace old phones and use as main device.
So far NOBODY can use this phone as their main device.
The 2.1 firmware .504 was made same time when X10 was released, but we did not get it, only to receive the root-impossible .47 version !!!
I am sure this was my last purchase from sweden (yes, no ikea, no volvo and no stinky swedish fish for me from now on).
Are there more people feeling like me ?
Tell ericshits what we think of them, show your support for boycotting sweden and their stupid eric**** employees.
Nothing good ever came from sweden anyway (except Abba, long time ago)
Personally i'm quite satisfied with my X8, I bought it as a toy and to experiment with rooting, since i didn't want to risc bricking my X10. I now use it as a 3G modem with great success, but since it's the cheapest Android phone available in my country by a margin of 20% under the nearest HTC phone, i never expected much from the X8.
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I use it for everything and I am satisfied w/o rooting. It's my sixth SE phone
Your poll is extremely bias. Basically what you've done is said
Do you like Sony Phones?
-No
-No
-No
-No
Not everyone is going to agree with you.
And yes, I've always been happy with Sony Phones. I agree, however, that their decision to keep an android phone locked down is stupid, though.
Android is opensource... user can customize own phone... sony is ****... they lock android... i will sell my phone with the best buyer.. HTC i'm coming..!!! i use sony phone about 3year. i like walkman.. user can customize walkman phone.. sony ****..!!!
Development forums are not made for this kind of questions.
Moved to general.
Its realy good phone.It have everything from android to gps,wi-fi,bluetoth and is cheap.You are crazy men.Why you are buy phone if you dont like it.
Buy iPhone 4 for 2000 dollars then you will be sad because iPhone doesnt have to much better things then SE x8.
Agree 2 u.
That was definitly my last SE phone. It's the ONLY Android device which isn't rootable!
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Agree 2 u.
That was definitly my last SE phone. It's the ONLY Android device which isn't rootable!
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No, it is rootable. Just not on 2.1 firmware.
as-mario said:
Its realy good phone.It have everything from android to gps,wi-fi,bluetoth and is cheap.You are crazy men.Why you are buy phone if you dont like it.
Buy iPhone 4 for 2000 dollars then you will be sad because iPhone doesnt have to much better things then SE x8.
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Agree. Iphone 4 is worse than this cheap x8 phone I almost can do everything with it. I phone is more troublesome. Jailbreak and many other stupid things. X8 w/o root is still smarter than iphone.
Gunawan-GN Multimedia-X10i
I agree. Despite not being able to root 2.1 it's a very well put together device even if you havent updated yet. Besides its only a matter of time before one of us geeks finds another exploit
Yeah, dat's right. At least they gave us an 2.1 update, right?
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I'm using x8 as a main phone, and i had waited it since august. I like Sony phones-the best phones.
I have a Sony Ericsson P910i. This phone was a brick. My friend, Kristian used it as a work phone. It was dark red when I got it. Kristian was painted it. I cleaned the whole device and assembled it as a brand new hammer.
Now I have an X8. Akku is **** but that is the only benefit of Android phones. My GPS flying, Android 2.1 flying as well. I need the root only or hacking the bootloader. That is only 11 more days. I can wait.
I am handling this device as a finger friendly computer. I do not brake it as Kristian but this phone lives as the fish in the ocean.
Not too keen about such a biased poll... thought I'd balance it a bit.
I'm happy about my x8, but I do realize that I would be even more happy with an android device from another manufacturer. For me, its not a phone, it's an android device. How well it performs as an android device is alpha omega. Manufacturers that don't provide updates to most recent version ASAP, are simply cut from my list of potential buys in the future.
I have no anger towards SE. I am happy about my phone. Next time tho, it won't be an SE, unless they convince me they got their stuff together and realize that its no longer about the phones, but about running android well. I'll simply look elsewhere.
Manufacturers who still think they sell phones (SE, Nokia), will have a hard time competing with companies who sell devices (HTC, LG, Samsung).
Stupid thread.Go home and cry.Dont waste our time here please.
N.
Thread closed on account of the fact it pointless
OP if you disagree with my decision feel free to PM me and ill tell you why im right
It's official, the X8 will not be getting any android updates whatsoever beyond 2.1
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xda's good developers.., we're counting on you!
But why??? WHY ????? OMG!!!
EL_BELLACO said:
But why??? WHY ????? OMG!!!
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No idea, ask sony phaggyson, I guess they think cheap phones with great hardware that are more than capable of running 2.3 still wont get them good money even if they update it..
fkn companies, this thing is way better than the wildfire i can't get my head around why they don't wanna update it.
You're a bit late there.
You can use a custom ROM (for example the Racht's ones) to upgrade your OS Android to 2.2 or 2.3.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=914513
umm.....i threw my phone today in trash....
feeling relaxed!!
in future...i will never buy another SE product!
Goin to buy HD7 or any Nokia+Microsoft product...
but Android/SE.....
NEVER AGAIN!!
That's actually quite absurd! Bad idea Sony!
Custom ROM has some bugs so it is not fully FROYO and GINGERBREAD but it is in evolve so we will have good custom ROMs in future but BE PATIENT!
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umm.....i threw my phone today in trash....
feeling relaxed!!
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Can you tell me which bin it's in? I'll go pick it up...
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Can you tell me which bin it's in? I'll go pick it up...
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Haha! Now you will get a fine for throwing your phone in the bin It's not environmentally friendly
Sent from my X8 using XDA App
Phone with lower CPU can have froyo installed on it. X8 should be sufficient running froyo, either it cost lot of money to support X8 or SE think why should support 'old' series when they can make money from new one with upgrade OS.
mohakrastogi said:
umm.....i threw my phone today in trash....
feeling relaxed!!
in future...i will never buy another SE product!
Goin to buy HD7 or any Nokia+Microsoft product...
but Android/SE.....
NEVER AGAIN!!
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Good for you!
I wanna sell this piece of $hit used before it gets any cheaper and save for a wildfire.
mohakrastogi said:
umm.....i threw my phone today in trash....
feeling relaxed!!
in future...i will never buy another SE product!
Goin to buy HD7 or any Nokia+Microsoft product...
but Android/SE.....
NEVER AGAIN!!
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I agree. This was my first smartphone, so I had no idea what I was getting; I just wanted a dirt cheap android phone I could mess around with. With all the mods, hacks, and especially racht's custom ROMs (I couldn't believe how crappy the stock ROM was compared to those) I've been able to experiment with, I have a much better idea of what I want out of my next android phone and what it will be capable of. As for SE, you're right: never again.
Agreed. I've just installed my first ROM (2.2.1 CM HACKDROID v0.12) on my X8 and there is no way i am going back to the original!! Works great apart from a few setbacks like vibration not working, unable to move apps to SD and locks on its own sometimes while i'm using it. But having said that it's still much better than the stock OS!!
hey mister, where did you got the screen shoot? can you provide a link? why rather give a screen shot either than link?
if it is true, i will never by SE product anymore, i will rather choose I-Phone 4 either than xperia x8
Thinking of getting this.
using rcht's rom... its awesome!!!