I'm new to the Glacier scene. And I've read through some of the rooting threads. It looks like they're a couple of different methods for rooting the Glacier, although it looks like some people with newer devices seem to have problems with a couple of the methods.
All I'd like to do is delete some of the stock bloatware. Do I need S-Off to accomplish this on the 4G? What would be the easiest way to approach this? At this point I don't see the need for an OC, or a custom rom, etc... I know before root/S-OFF was obtained on the G2 that people figured out how to go in and disable the stock apps. Is there a way to do this on the 4G?
You'll need root access to delete the bloatware, but it's relatively easy. You can use grankin's s=off root script visionary method (which can easy be reverted with the PD15IMG.zip file) in the resource bible and then delete what you don't want. I've deleted a massive amount of apps, more than any guide I've seen, with no side effects. The positive of rooting the phone is that you can install CW recovery and backup your phone before making changes, so even if you delete something important you can restore and not lose data.
Thanks! I know that someone (cyan?) used to publish a list of applications that were safe to remove. If I remember correctly it was a list of applications and all of their dependencies. Is there anything like this for the 4G?
I just google searched at first, found one on androidforums. Then I just got experimental and started deleting anything I didn't use. As long as you keep that backup it takes about 5 minutes to get yourself back to a working state after making a mistake. I never did, kept it simple and only deleted things I recognized and had a market replacement for or never opened.
darinmc said:
I just google searched at first, found one on androidforums. Then I just got experimental and started deleting anything I didn't use. As long as you keep that backup it takes about 5 minutes to get yourself back to a working state after making a mistake. I never did, kept it simple and only deleted things I recognized and had a market replacement for or never opened.
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Cool that works for me!
Correct me if I'm wrong (of course you will), but simply rooting the phone and deleting the apps doesn't actually do anything. Its more of hiding the app from the menu. To truly get rid of the bloatware, you need to install another ROM.
I've rooted the phone once, deleted apps, unrooted and sure enough those apps were back.
Don_Perrignon said:
Correct me if I'm wrong (of course you will), but simply rooting the phone and deleting the apps doesn't actually do anything. Its more of hiding the app from the menu. To truly get rid of the bloatware, you need to install another ROM.
I've rooted the phone once, deleted apps, unrooted and sure enough those apps were back.
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You are correct. if you do not turn s=off you are only hiding those applications v. deleting from the memory bank of the phone. If you turn s=off you can truly delete them w/o worrying about them returning.
neidlinger said:
You are correct. if you do not turn s=off you are only hiding those applications v. deleting from the memory bank of the phone. If you turn s=off you can truly delete them w/o worrying about them returning.
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Without having to install another ROM?
Don_Perrignon said:
Without having to install another ROM?
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I believe that, that's what happens when you attempt to delete apps with S-ON; they'll 're appear' after a reboot.
You need S-OFF for true write access. You don't need a custom rom to delete apps with S-OFF, because you've got true access to your device. You can delete whatever you want with S-OFF. That's my understanding anyway.
once you root your phone, you can uninstall all the bloatware you want with titanium backup
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Has anyone come up with an unroot method for the fascinate. I just got one and it really sucks out of the box. I was going to play around with rooting it and see if I can make it fully functional again but I might end up just returning it and getting an incredible. Before rooting it I want to make sure I can go back to stock so it can be returned.
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Has anyone come up with an unroot method for the fascinate. I just got one and it really sucks out of the box. I was going to play around with rooting it and see if I can make it fully functional again but I might end up just returning it and getting an incredible. Before rooting it I want to make sure I can go back to stock so it can be returned.
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I'm coming from an Incredible and it is true that there is not as much hacks on the Fascinate yet, but there is a lot of activity already:
We have a way to backup and restore:
h**p://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782204
The Fascinate has been rooted (the first day mind you):
h**p://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=779238
There is the usual Galaxy S lag fix:
h**p://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=779597
List of crap apps to remove safely:
h**p://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=779948
And the very first custom-ish ROM:
h**p://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782250
So plenty of action for the first week, I'm sure by the end of the month we will be eating Vanilla Froyo, the best flavor !
Am I wrong for thinking that Unroot = undoing the lag fix, and then just doing a system wipe from the privacy settings?
When I have done this, I have had to re-root the phone each time. So I'm thinking yes.
Daswolven said:
Am I wrong for thinking that Unroot = undoing the lag fix, and then just doing a system wipe from the privacy settings?
When I have done this, I have had to re-root the phone each time. So I'm thinking yes.
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You don't even need to do the system wipe, you can just remove the files you copied over initially. The root process is minimally invasive.
Always undo the lag-fix first.
If a system wipe is easier for you, then un-do the lag fix and wipe the system.
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You don't even need to do the system wipe, you can just remove the files you copied over initially. The root process is minimally invasive.
Always undo the lag-fix first.
If a system wipe is easier for you, then un-do the lag fix and wipe the system.
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Lol. easy.
Now for a custom recovery. I need nandroid damnit.
Would wiping the phone work if I deleted instead of renaming some of the files on the phone? I deleted a bunch of the bloatware, and hoping that wiping the phone would just undo the root. I didn't do the lag fix. Just the root process and removed applications.
trevoryour said:
Has anyone come up with an unroot method for the fascinate. I just got one and it really sucks out of the box. I was going to play around with rooting it and see if I can make it fully functional again but I might end up just returning it and getting an incredible. Before rooting it I want to make sure I can go back to stock so it can be returned.
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Here's my rooting instructions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=798064
Yes, it can be unrooted. Do everything in the instructions and it is a much better phone.
EDIT: I also just added a guide to get back to stock.
Hello XDA,
After doing some reading, I decided I wanted to back up my entire phone (effectively copy the whole OS as-is) before I start tempering with it (root, ROMs, etc).
But all services I found for this are root-only, and getting root wipes your entire phone.
Do you see my issue here? I really dont want to do anything with it, before I have created a full backup, which I then can restore in case things go bad.
Now my question to you is, Is there any tool that does this WITHOUT tempering with the phone as it is now? So no root, _maybe_ install an app, but nothing that would involve changing the phone as drastically as root does. (I know root isnt considerated drastically, but I'm over-exaggerating to stress the fact I would really like to solve it without that)
Thanks!
LeandroMarceddu said:
Hello XDA,
After doing some reading, I decided I wanted to back up my entire phone (effectively copy the whole OS as-is) before I start tempering with it (root, ROMs, etc).
But all services I found for this are root-only, and getting root wipes your entire phone.
Do you see my issue here? I really dont want to do anything with it, before I have created a full backup, which I then can restore in case things go bad.
Now my question to you is, Is there any tool that does this WITHOUT tempering with the phone as it is now? So no root, _maybe_ install an app, but nothing that would involve changing the phone as drastically as root does. (I know root isnt considerated drastically, but I'm over-exaggerating to stress the fact I would really like to solve it without that)
Thanks!
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Rooting doesn't wipe your phone, I ran unRevoked 3.0 on mine from linux and it doesn't destroy everything on your phone, just gives you root access. from there you can boot into clockworkmod and choose nandroid backup, this will back everything up as it is. there are guides to do this all over the forum, hope this helps!
if i have anything wrong, feel free to correct me people
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Rooting doesn't wipe your phone, I ran unRevoked 3.0 on mine from linux and it doesn't destroy everything on your phone, just gives you root access. from there you can boot into clockworkmod and choose nandroid backup, this will back everything up as it is. there are guides to do this all over the forum, hope this helps!
if i have anything wrong, feel free to correct me people
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Yep root does not wipe your phone, you can do a nandroid backup and dl titanium backup from market to backup all your apps.
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chrisandchips said:
Rooting doesn't wipe your phone, I ran unRevoked 3.0 on mine from linux and it doesn't destroy everything on your phone, just gives you root access. from there you can boot into clockworkmod and choose nandroid backup, this will back everything up as it is. there are guides to do this all over the forum, hope this helps!
if i have anything wrong, feel free to correct me people
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Wow I am 101% I have read it would wipe everything. Thanks for clearing this all out. I'm gonna try this all. I will edit this post when I find the website responsible for giving the false info. Thanks both!
EDIT: lifehacker.com/5563527/back-up-your-entire-android-phone-to-the-cloud
"Then again, to get your phone rooted, you'll need to wipe it entirely, so it's something of a Catch 22. "
Weird, seeing how lifehacker usually is trustworthy.
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OK, congratulate me!! Thanks. I did it on the first try, no issue or hiccups what-so-ever.
Now for the info. I'm not sure that anyone will be interested, but I'm guessing other people in my position at least might be.
I'm very experienced with computers, but not working directly with rooting/unlocking devices. But I would say anyone who reads up a bit and can follow directions properly could pull it off pretty easily.
So I run 2.2.2, and I used superoneclick 1.6.3.
After opening superoneclick, I switched it from psneuter to rageagainsthecage. I had no idea if I was supposed to do this, but I read all about rageagainstthecage, and never heard of psneuter.
I had my phone connected to my PC, and I left my SD in the phone, but I unmounted it in settings. I have used ADB before, so I knew the drivers were installed and working, and I hit the button root.
After reading this site, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682, I started with debugging off, and turned it on as it said. I then turned it off, but didn't get a chance to turn it back on and off and on, so I just turned it back on (debugging) when it got to "Waiting for device" for the second time.
That was it! It asked to test and see if root was in fact accomplished, and it was. I then installed setCPU (which is basically the only reason I wanted to do this) and as far as I can tell it seems to be working fine.
I have been reading a lot about this for the past few days, but the actual procedure only took a couple of minutes. Keeping in mind, of course, that I already had ADB and drivers working.
Nothing was wiped off my phone, which surprisingly was hard to confirm on the web. I did read somewhere that only unlocking wipes data, but still, you never know.
I hope this helps anyone else who is new and unsure of the process, and I'd be happy to answer any other specific questions based on what I have learned of the last week or so. I know that people hesitate to ask questions in case they have already been asked lots of times, but are buried and hard to find (because that's the position I was in ).
Thanks for posting your "rooting" experience. I'm sure there are people that will find it helpful.
I think when I did mine, it was something along the lines of:
fastboot-oem-unlock
fastboot flash recovery <whatever>
reboot into recovery and flash rom
Other than the ability to install custom ROM's I've yet to see a huge deal in rooting my phone. Anyone care to tell me what I can do with a rooted N1 that is a must have? So far I tried to change some fonts, which didn't work, and discovered that I have to install a custom ROM to change the color of the notification bar, and I can't make the default Google music and news widgets slightly transparent. So educate me, what's the huge deal with rooting, aside from a custom ROM?
Set cpu of course like being said. I remember the first time I rooted my phone was universal androot it was a breeze. Then I lost root and use super one click to gain out back. Root really easy as well
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- Backup application, like MyBackup, can backup your app data(including game save...) if your device is rooted.
Hi N1 owners.
I also just root my N1 with superoneclick 1.6.3
After that I flashed CM 6.1.1 and yesterday I tried CM7. Everything has worked fine for me so far, but I have some questions, I hope someone can answer.
1/Can I just flash random roms on top of each other, like i did from cm6 - cm7?
2/ Can I always restore backups, nomatter what rom I come from or to?
3/ when/if official GB come out, can I flash a stock rom and get the OTA update right away?
Sorry, if I ask silly questions ..
Built in trackball colors, call blocker, hide frequently called list in the favorites tab, remove unnecessary apps, tmobile wifi calling, notification bar power toggles, trackball wake and unlock, quiet hours, themes, etc., etc., etc. Just off the top of my head. Oh, and Gingerbread!!!
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Some apps want to bypass the home screen "5 second rule" like widget locker, you need root. I setup a widget to reboot (nice!).
brettbellaire said:
...I did read somewhere that only unlocking wipes data, but still, you never know.
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Unlocking the Bootloader wipes data, rooting does not. This is probably what you read.
offenberg said:
Hi N1 owners.
I also just root my N1 with superoneclick 1.6.3
After that I flashed CM 6.1.1 and yesterday I tried CM7. Everything has worked fine for me so far, but I have some questions, I hope someone can answer.
1/Can I just flash random roms on top of each other, like i did from cm6 - cm7? Yes you can. Often if the ROM is the next version in a series, you can flash without wiping data or cache, but some ROMs require you to do this first.
2/ Can I always restore backups, nomatter what rom I come from or to? A Nandroid backup can be reinstalled from any ROM, or even just from Recovery if there is no ROM.
3/ when/if official GB come out, can I flash a stock rom and get the OTA update right away? Yes. Either restore your stock ROM Nandroid backup or a passimg.zip.
Sorry, if I ask silly questions ..
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offenberg said:
Hi N1 owners.
I also just root my N1 with superoneclick 1.6.3
After that I flashed CM 6.1.1 and yesterday I tried CM7. Everything has worked fine for me so far, but I have some questions, I hope someone can answer.
1/Can I just flash random roms on top of each other, like i did from cm6 - cm7?
2/ Can I always restore backups, nomatter what rom I come from or to?
3/ when/if official GB come out, can I flash a stock rom and get the OTA update right away?
Sorry, if I ask silly questions ..
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1. As a rule, if you are going from 1 ROM to another totally different ROM, it's always a good idea to wipe. It only takes a few seconds to sign back in to everything. You can bypass immediate sign in and activate wifi if you need it.
2. Nandroids can be reinstalled anytime. However, a nandroid does not contain your HBOOT and Radio. So if you updated those to use a specific ROM, they would stay in place with the nandroid restore.
3. When GB does finally make it out to our specific device, there is no way you would get an OTA before the ROM devs here had you up and running.
***Also note, the 1-click root tools may or may not work right away with the OTA 2.3. So to anyone that rooted using those tools and unrooted to hurry up and get an OTA, you may be stuck on stock until it gets fixed.
Know-Fear said:
1. As a rule, if you are going from 1 ROM to another totally different ROM, it's always a good idea to wipe. It only takes a few seconds to sign back in to everything. You can bypass immediate sign in and activate wifi if you need it.
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I agree, do a full wipe if it's a new ROM. Titanium Backup is a great way to get all of your apps and data back after installing the new ROM.
bigmout said:
I agree, do a full wipe if it's a new ROM. Titanium Backup is a great way to get all of your apps and data back after installing the new ROM.
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So what do you lose (if anything) when flashing a new ROM if you backup and do things the right way?
Another question would be if you just flash a new kernal do you lose any/all data?
brettbellaire said:
So what do you lose (if anything) when flashing a new ROM if you backup and do things the right way?
The only thing you'd lose is the old rom
Another question would be if you just flash a new kernal do you lose any/all data?
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Nope
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Nope
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Interesting... Thanks!
@ brettbellaire
I've rooted before, and lost root when ota's came. I've rooted again using superoneclick, and am contemplating cm7. But I feel very cautious about flashing a different rom, I'd cry if I bricked my phone. However, I'm probably going to do it during the next week (unless gingerbread ota arrives).
Andy
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Hmmm, I have been anxious for GB too.... but I'm not sure it's worth it. I don't think it's such a big update. I don't think there's too much of a danger of brinking these days.
I have been contemplating doing what I have to to overclock, see what kind of a difference that makes...
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I agree, do a full wipe if it's a new ROM. Titanium Backup is a great way to get all of your apps and data back after installing the new ROM.
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I am a newbie to root. Can Titanium Backup restore the paid apps? because some apps require online verification with Google at the first time of use.
Also, Z4root does not work on my N1. I want to use superoneclick but where can I find the driver for my win7? thanks
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is it possible to go back and unroot the phone? i.e. hide the padlock during phone startup ..I am using N1 ForYo 2.2.2..Thanks
zmalach said:
is it possible to go back and unroot the phone? i.e. hide the padlock during phone startup ..I am using N1 ForYo 2.2.2..Thanks
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If you see the padlock, you've got an unlocked boot-loader. This can't be re-locked.
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Am using Tibu to back up apps now, but am going to 'attempt' to flash a new ROM that's rooted and just in case it doesn't go as planned and I lose root, I'd like to know if there's a app or whatever that allows a unrooted phone the same or near same options and ability to back up apps that Tibu has. Any animal like that exist???
No, Titanium Backup is as powerful as it is because of root access. Without that, there is no way to get the same functionality, no matter what app you're using.
And if you're trying to flash a rooted ROM to a phone that's already higher than 4.4.4, you aren't going to find success...
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No, Titanium Backup is as powerful as it is because of root access. Without that, there is no way to get the same functionality, no matter what app you're using.
And if you're trying to flash a rooted ROM to a phone that's already higher than 4.4.4, you aren't going to find success...
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I'm on rooted 4.3. going to rooted Jasmine 6
Sporttster said:
Am using Tibu to back up apps now, but am going to 'attempt' to flash a new ROM that's rooted and just in case it doesn't go as planned and I lose root, I'd like to know if there's a app or whatever that allows a unrooted phone the same or near same options and ability to back up apps that Tibu has. Any animal like that exist???
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This shouldn't even be a concern.. You're missing the most important step in flashing a new ROM. It should be in every single ROM thread, for any device here on XDA, its usually the first on the list of instructions...?
MAKE A BACKUP OF YOUR CURRENT ROM!!
You do this in your custom recovery, TWRP, CWM or Phils...
This restores your system exactly as it was, when you made the backup, your call logs, messages, apps, app datas, even app caches, if you select it when making the backup..
Backups are one of the main purposes for a custom recovery, if you screw up, you can always go back..
Were you not aware of this till now??
Unless you're intention is to stick with the ROM, that's not rooted.. Not sure why you'd want that, but everyone's different, so I'd recommend using Helium instead of TB, root isn't required with that app..
I'm not on a developer edition. It does not have a unlocked bootloader, so not sure I can 'go back' if the thing doesn't work right. Maybe I'm wrong. But I've heard once you flash past 4.4 there is no going back to root and I'm going to 6. In the past on unlocked units I've had no problems going back. But locked is another animal...it's rooted but not unlocked...
Not sure why I didn't unlock and robot phone initially. However, I'm planning to do this now. Unfortunately, by waiting, I've got a good filtered list of apps installed that I use compared to the ones I've installed over the years.
In the past, when already rooted, I would just do a backup using titanium of the apps currently on the phone and just restore that set after a clean wipe which would would also bring back all of my app settings.
Is there a similar way of doing this now or do I just have to suck it up and get a current list of all the apps I have and do an ota install of them again?
If you do a factory reset on the device when you log back on it will ask if you want to restore your apps. Just click yes and it will put everything back on that was there before.
How would it know what "before" was though. Does it somehow know what was on the device just before and not pull apps that I have installed since the beginning of time?
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How would it know what "before" was though. Does it somehow know what was on the device just before and not pull apps that I have installed since the beginning of time?
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Turn on developer options and use "adb" to backup the phone.