I'd appreciate it if somone with the Xoom would answer this question.
Back in Android 2.01 and earlier builds, the android gallery app had 24 bit color depth. Beginning with 2.1, they downgraded to 16 bit color. As a result, the gallery shows fewer colors and instead of smooth graduated tones you get distinct bands of color. Skies, bacgrounds, etc. look horrible. Here's a visual example of the difference:
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What's puzzling is that they downgraded the gallery app (which, more than any other app should make images look their best), yet the web browser still uses 24 bit color depth. This is the equivalent of the music app making your high quality music files sound like AM radio, while the same file sounds perfect as a ringtone.
All the third-party gallery apps in the market, except for Multi-Touch Gallery (Bread and Butter, or B&B), also use 16 bit color depth. B&B isn't a good soloution because it's buggy, and easily jumps to next and previous image when sliding around a zoomed-in image, and I think it's no longer maintained or supported by its developer.
Additionally, the default gallery down-sizes large image files. I have images that are only roughly 1700 x 2000 pixels that, when I zoom in 1:1 in the gallery look badly pixelated like a low-resolution image. The same file viewed in third-party gallery apps like JustPictures and QuickPic shows the detail when zoomed in.
I don't get why Apple can get this right with the iPhone and iPad, but Google gets it so wrong. They didn't fix these problems with Froyo and they didn't fix them with Gingerbread. As a photographer hoping to use my smartphone and, hopefully, a tablet as a mobile portfolio, that this is fixed in Honeycomb. Can someone confirm?
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Hello,
I've just got my replacement phone (the previous one had mechanical problems) and the display seems a bit strange with this new device.
There are visible banding effects in color gradients, (web pages, pictures) I know the Lcd has only 65K colors, but I don't remember those bands being so strong on my previous device.
Could you fellow G1 owners check this on your device please? I am in Hungary, Europe and I don't know any other G1 owners here (you know it's not available here, actually mine is an ADP1).
It's easy to check, the effect is very visible on http://www.google.com/news (Google international news mobile site) in the Android browser. It's slightly visible in the dark blue title bar, more in the light blue bar below and very strongly in the "Sections" bar far below.
Please check it and tell me what you have found...
Thanks,
Peter
I see the same issues with google/news. I think it has to do with google's site and/or the g1's browser. Here's a few high quality jpeg gradients Black-White, RainBow and Blue-Red. Unfortunately google compresses them and they look like junk online. So, here's a .zip of the three gradients your can download right to your phone and view with Astro, or extract to pc etc. They should look fairly smooth on the g1, better on pc tho..
use there gradients for w/e you choose.
Hello sonikamd,
Thanks for your help! Interestingly your test pictures look better (smoother) in the standard picture viewer app than in Astro's viewer. Can you confirm that?
Also how old is your device? It looks like that mine (the replacement device) is very old, it's serial number is lower than what I have sent back (purchased in december).
Thanks,
Peter
Just one last quick question: on the incoming call screen there are strange lines appear, do anyone see those on the G1 or it is just me?
Click on the picture to see what I mean.
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No, I am not crazy - I am a graphics artist and really sensitive to things like that.
Thanks,
p
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Hi lilithpro,
Thanks for the image, however you won't see the effect on a screencapture (like you attached). I made the pic in Photoshop (from a captured emulator screen) to show the effect - I exaggerated the effect in the pic a little.
You should check your device's lcd during an incoming call to see it. I think it is something to do with the lcd panel. Today I managed to check an other G1 and it showed that effect, too.
So it seems it is not my ADP1's problem.
I've had my G1 for almost a week now, and during this time I have modded it, added a custom boot image and much more. However, there is one thing that has really been bothering me. And that is the colordepth of the screen. At 65,000 colors, it really isn't impressive at all. Pictures seen from far away are okay, but close up you can notice the phones attempts at creating an additional color (little dots of the same color in a web fashion) which really is kinda annoying. Also, why is it that wallpaper images on the G1 always look so blurry and fuzzy?
The default wallpaper feature sucks and uses some kind of compression that blurrs the wallpaper image. Use Wallpaper Set & Save instead, for full quality wallpapers.
The color depth of the G1/Dream is abysmal, but there's not much that can be done about that.
Is wallpaper set & save only for png's? Or does it make jpg's look better also? All my wallpapers are jpg format
Works great with jpg too.
I gave wallpaper set and save a try but I didn't notice much difference, I will keep experimenting with it.
SolemnWishing said:
I gave wallpaper set and save a try but I didn't notice much difference, I will keep experimenting with it.
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Here's an enlarged example of the difference between default the wallpaper feature (left pic) and Wallpaper Set & Save (right pic):
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Notice the "cracks" are a lot more defined in the right pic, giving more detail, and the colors are deeper/more vivid too.
Wow, your right that is very good. It must just be the wallpaper that I am using that probably isn't very clear in the first place. The only reason I am using the wallpaper I currently am, even though the quality isn't great is because it has a dock. Is there anyway I can put a dock on my own wallpaper? Is there a program I can use or a tutorial?
If you're relatively comfortable with photoshop and know how to utilize layers and blending options it's easy to make your own "dock". If not then it's quite tricky.
Haha yeah that would be a problem then. Ah well, Im sure ill get around to learning it one day.
Anyone noticed that the detail/zoom level isn't as good as it could be?
e.g. try to find Piccadilly Circus in London.
I am told that the HTC Touch 3G and the iphone shows better res.
I believe the HD is having same problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532745
Is this device specific?
Anyone have ideas?
The search is great is a great app so want to keep this.
Have upgraded to 3.2 - no change
low resolution??
Got to be kidding...
Just take a look at these printscreens:
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/285/screen001b.png
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/7634/screen002zgt.png
I think the OP is referring to the amount of Zooming In which can be done on Satellite view before GoogleMaps stops displaying the view and shows blank screen.
I agree with the OP, I've noticed the same thing. I don't have any answers but would love it if someone has some insight.
JP
Hi
The zooming level hasn't changed at all, it is just the high resolution screen in a small area that means when you zoom in things don't seem so magnified than they would on a computer monitor for example.
If you take a screen crap and display that on your monitor and compare with the zoom level via a PC and I think you will find them the same.
Regards
Phil
I think it's true to say you need very good eyesight to use the TD2 screen to the full
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You're right, I'm going to have to carry round my Granny's Page Magnifier!
JP
japester36 said:
You're right, I'm going to have to carry round my Granny's Page Magnifier!
JP
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You joke about it, I'm seriously considering reading glasses specifically for when I'm surfing on the TD2, to save using the zoom bar all the time! OK, I'll need them soon anyway, but that will be the main use!
Google maps zoom level
I don't think you understand my problem - maybe you don't have the same problem?
See the 3 screenshots. 2 taken from Opera and one from Google maps.
The Google maps is at least 2 or 3 levels of zoom less than that from using the browser.
It seems that any wallpaper with a gradient or any shading or glowing is displayed like in 8-bit style. What I mean by that is this.
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Its really making alot of wallpapers look hideous and would like to know what I can do to make it look the way it should. Thanks in advance.
Seems like a little help and a little research does wonders these days.
Just so this can be used as a reference, i'm gonna go a little in dept here.
newone757 said:
might try adding some noise to the pic. just a little bit. I used to have to do this on my touch pro 1+2 on some walls
let us know how they turn out
a quick google turned out this:Say Goodbye To Gradient Banding | Planet Photoshop
this looks promising too
How To Correct Banding In Your Gradients Using Photoshop - SloDive
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These methods work in getting rid of the banding lines but what I figured out was to keep the quality, you need to do alot of tweaking and messing around. What I found out was adding a gaussian blur on a new layer thats slightly transparent and adding a little noise on a overlay layer thats slightly transparent is the trick.
This took me 2 mins to do. (Its 6:22am on fourth of July, I'll put up better examples later)
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After
What got me thinking was some of my camera pictures and other pictures in the gallery look stunning but anything I transfer via pc had horrible banding. Didnt make any sense at all. I'm no expert but adding a little blur and noise almost tricks the evo's screen.
great idea! thanks, now i can finally get some good wallpapers onto my evo.
How about sharing the exact settings you used? Or even better would be to post a PSD template that only requires people to paste their wallpaper (or possibly copy a layer style)
Download wallpaper set and save from the market. It fixes this problem.
I'm looking for a good background on the screen, if I open the screen setup I see a square block instead of a rectangle block,
if i use a 1280x800 image is always cuts off a part of the image.
does someone know the resolution of the square box?
of does anyone have a link to a wallpaper pack for the Tab 10.1?
Greetz...
I been struggling with this same issue since day one. I too tried using the same Res wallpapers with the same issue lol. Soo I did some experimenting. For me what worked was a combination of two things. First off I use 1280x1024 wallpapers and I use quickpic to apply them. Here's some screenies to compare gallery and quickpic..
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This image I'm sure ur familiar with. Nice n square and not cropped as we want it to be.
Here as you can see the crop toll within quickpic fits the rectangle horizontally quite perfectly and only cutting off the image at the top and the bottom. This is something that has become quite acceptable to me lol. Well I hope this helped
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Wallpapers that fit
I too was having this problem. Even using Zedge would render blurry, non-fitting images. After some trial and error, I found PicSpeed wallpapers (https://play.google.com/store/apps/...1bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5zcnNkZXYud2FsbHBhcGVycyJd) and everything that I've loaded from there has been cropped and adjusted properly. I did find that I get my best results by picking the default settings, which is the one that allows the wallpaper to scroll. Not my app at all, but it solved this problem for me.
Good luck.
best solution till now for wallpapers i found
i use app in google play called wallpapers bay to get nice looking wallpapers with tablet resolutions and save them as download them then use app in google play called simple image wallpaper to set them i enter the app from from live wallpaper !!! and then find the name of installed app then enter it enter setting and browse image in gallery then set it sooo decent looking