[Q T-MOBILE G2] doubts on unlock - G2 and Desire Z General

Hi everyone,
i rooted and s-off my g2 with visionary r14, the easiest way since i don't wanna mess with command prompt and adb...
when i go to HBOOT i see that is s-off, but i checked with a sim different than t-mobile and i figured out it's operator locked.
I tried to see if the menu simlock on the HBOOT was useful, but when i enter i get load mccmnc image error, is that menu helpful in some way to unlock?
what is the easiest way to unlock?
tnx

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855764
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sorry if the question can be silly, but i have another doubt: will the locked phone work with the simple mobile carrier (that is t-mobile MVNO) sim card?

Yes
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underground9 said:
sorry if the question can be silly, but i have another doubt: will the locked phone work with the simple mobile carrier (that is t-mobile MVNO) sim card?
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Yes SimpleMobile is made to work just fine with any T-mobile or AT&T phone even if you're not rooted or unlocked.

Why don't you just gfree the damned thing and be done with it?

dhkr234 said:
Why don't you just gfree the damned thing and be done with it?
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For real. If you cant do that then you shouldnt have root.
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never ever use visionary, its extremely unstable and you have a chance at bricking your phone every time you use it, at first gfree may seem hard, but once you do it its pretty easy, but if you are unable to use gfree, dont even attempt at getting root access

shortlived said:
For real. If you cant do that then you shouldnt have root.
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i rooted because i want to personalize my phone and till now any damages occurred.... i see there's a lot of solidarity here towards newbies

Yeah dude sorry for those guys. Their content is sound, but their delivery was awful. It's your phone, do whatever you want to it, however you want. Just know the risks and realize there is an inherent danger to your device no matter what method you use. Read read read.
And the VAST majority of folks here are more than happy to help, regardless of the problem. Just make sure you also search, search, search because it is very difficult to have a truly unique problem and someone has probably asked your question and someone else has probably already answered it.
Have fun bro.

underground9 said:
i rooted because i want to personalize my phone and till now any damages occurred.... i see there's a lot of solidarity here towards newbies
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There is nothing wrong with being a 'newbie'. All of us were in that position at one point or another.
The issue that this community has with newbies is that many of you have a simple disregard for forum RULES and POLICIES. Here's a start:
1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
A simple SEARCH and reading would have revealed that Visionary is not for unlocking the device, only for obtaining root.
As has already been stated here for you, GFREE is the method you need to follow to unlock. Search for that and read the thread.
Your Welcome.

i been searching for long the thing is that all the guides makes it confusing, and u have to believe that to who doesn't know all this methods is lost, and i thank when somebody helps.

The cyanogenmod wiki has a very nice guide to rooting and unlocking with gfree, google "htc desire z rooting", it should be the second result

Hey OP,
When i first got my G2 (Desire Z here in Canada) I spent about 3-4 hours on just research and understanding of the rooting process, adb, S-ON/S-OFF and gfree. After I figured all that out, the actual process was only about 10 minutes. It was a great learning experience and I would be more than happy to give you a simpler and more broken down procedure if you would like. Let me know via PM.
Regards.

Hi op I sorta was a noob for a day or 2 everytime I switch devices I was on the android central forums think I new everything lol nooooot I bricked my first switched service.
phone the mytouch using the visionary method not the way to got I thought why not just get the phone unlocked and get true true s-off just in case and it has been the best thing I ever thought of.
I have not used these directions it does get confusing cuz some say it worked some say it don't them some start saying where does this or that go and then you have no clue where to start lol.
I hate to tell you to go to a different site but I used the new unlockr.com method which is the same gfree method with a mix of some of the true s-off guides.
because some file pushing commands where annoying so once you get a video guide on what to download and a writen guide over here just put the 2 together.
I moved the gfree file,busybox,data file to your data/local/tmp directory and moved the superuser apk on to the root of the sdcard and then followed the commands that actually use the file that you placed into your data/local/tmp directory.
you will need visionary need this just to get temp root to access the data privalge you need to get into your data/local/tmp but after you've read the directions a thousand time you'll know what I had directed you to do.
I know that was a lot to read but that is plain an simple ways to manually move the files to the spot you need them without commands to move them you can do it your self but read this and the true root directions and the unlockr.com guide for this phone 3 times before attempting.
I had unlocked and rooted my g2 in 10 mins instead of bringing another brick to my friends store lol
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Rooting Guide For A Noob

i have searched but not knowing exactly what to search for is no all that helpful.
i am familiar with ubuntu(been using that on laptops since 8.04) and i can tinker with the terminal (by followng someone else's instructions)
but as far as android, 100% new.
i'm considering rooting my device.
i have learned by reading about what rooting is and the uses.
what i'm looking for is guide or links to more information/read.
what application do i need to get to root my device?
how do i start? what do i do?
i just need a to be pointed in the right direction so i can learn more.
thanks
viper3ez said:
i have searched but not knowing exactly what to search for is no all that helpful.
i am familiar with ubuntu(been using that on laptops since 8.04) and i can tinker with the terminal (by followng someone else's instructions)
but as far as android, 100% new.
i'm considering rooting my device.
i have learned by reading about what rooting is and the uses.
what i'm looking for is guide or links to more information/read.
what application do i need to get to root my device?
how do i start? what do i do?
i just need a to be pointed in the right direction so i can learn more.
thanks
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First, you want to post questions in the Q&A section. Second, look here.
A simple search will save you from getting flamed in these forums. The thread I linked was listed at the very top of the development section.
Christopher3712 said:
First, you want to post questions in the Q&A section. Second, look here.
A simple search will save you from getting flamed in these forums. The thread I linked was listed at the very top of the development section.
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th many other threads
thank you.
i have read that along with many other threads.
problem is, being new, i am yet to understand what the program "visionary" is or where to get the right version
other terms like like radio=off are new to me.
i'm not slow but some of these guides are written with an audience already familiar with rooting in mind.
for someone using their first android phone and trying to root it, a little help is needed so i dont turn my new phone that cost me 2 years of wireless liberty in a paperwheight
viper3ez said:
th many other threads
thank you.
i have read that along with many other threads.
problem is, being new, i am yet to understand what the program "visionary" is or where to get the right version
other terms like like radio=off are new to me.
i'm not slow but some of these guides are written with an audience already familiar with rooting in mind.
for someone using their first android phone and trying to root it, a little help is needed so i dont turn my new phone that cost me 2 years of wireless liberty in a paperwheight
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Well, try this thread, and if you don't understand that, you probably should not mess with your phone. I'm totally not being mean here. But if you don't understand the previous helper's link or the one I'm sending you, you could easily brick your phone and be totally screwed. The guides posted that we linked to are pretty straightforward.
But, to answer one of your questions, VISIONary is an Android app listed in the Android Market that some of the XDA Developer GENIUSES wrote. It's basically the first step in permanently rooting your phone. It can run a discovered exploit in this group of devices and gain 'temporary root'. Which basically means that if you rebooted your phone after gaining temp root, the root would we removed from memory. But, by gaining temp root, you can run superuser level commands which will provide the full root (which doesn't disappear after reboots). This used to have to be entered manually, but again, the geniuses who wrote VISIONary folded this functionality into the app.
BTW, u asked about S=OFF. In the Hboot section of your phone (when you hold the VOLUME DOWN button and POWER button together from a shut off phone), it displays certain firmware information about your phone. 'S' refers to Security (I think), and the '=OFF', is, well, off. So it's supposed to mean the Security's turned off on your phone.
See, I have read about VISIONary and know what it does. Problem is I cant find it in the market place. Rrquested a download link and used QR, neither worked. I dont care about anyone being mean over the net as far as I get the help I need like you gave. I'm new to android and not stupid so I think I can handle rooting a phone.
I intend to keep reading to learn bit I still ne er d help with things like absence of visionary from the marketplace.
Btw is there an alternative for VISION ary?
1337squirrel said:
Well, try this thread, and if you don't understand that, you probably should not mess with your phone. I'm totally not being mean here. But if you don't understand the previous helper's link or the one I'm sending you, you could easily brick your phone and be totally screwed. The guides posted that we linked to are pretty straightforward.
But, to answer one of your questions, VISIONary is an Android app listed in the Android Market that some of the XDA Developer GENIUSES wrote. It's basically the first step in permanently rooting your phone. It can run a discovered exploit in this group of devices and gain 'temporary root'. Which basically means that if you rebooted your phone after gaining temp root, the root would we removed from memory. But, by gaining temp root, you can run superuser level commands which will provide the full root (which doesn't disappear after reboots). This used to have to be entered manually, but again, the geniuses who wrote VISIONary folded this functionality into the app.
BTW, u asked about S=OFF. In the Hboot section of your phone (when you hold the VOLUME DOWN button and POWER button together from a shut off phone), it displays certain firmware information about your phone. 'S' refers to Security (I think), and the '=OFF', is, well, off. So it's supposed to mean the Security's turned off on your phone.
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Well I care about the meanness, because I need to ask questions from time to time, and I DO search and read threads, so I know how it feels when someone gets uppity about your question.
Anyway, I think I was wrong about it being in the Market. It is posted as a thread in this sub-forum, or as link somewhere, but anyway, you have to download it from here. Best of luck!
Oh, and I'm not sure about alternatives to VISIONary, but I think the only alternative to it would be the original HTC G2 exploit, and whatever command-line stuff that entails. Dunno if that stuff was even posted online; it probably exists with the developer(s) who originally found the exploit.
Please post questions in the Q&A section.

Having trouble rooting T Mobile G1 after OTA Update build DMD64?

I had an incredible amount of trouble rooting my G1 after i got the OTA update. I looked for answers everywhere and there weren't many, and way too many "do a forum search" answers on forums. As if i hadn't tried searching haha.
Luckily i finally figured out how to do it.
The solution is to create the Unlockr's Goldcard. This creates an SD card that gets around the security of your current build.
If you want to skip a lot of steps (1-8) in the Unlockr's method, download the Goldcard Helper from the Market. This gives you the number you need without using adb. If you have a PC you can follow the Unlockr's guide from step 8 on and create your Goldcard.
(edit: from here downgrade to 1.5 and one click root will probably work)
I am assuming that most of you can figure out the rest, since i'm really busy right now, but i want to open a thread to point people in the right direction. If I see people having trouble i'll make a [Guide] when i get some time.
For now, Good Luck, and if you have it, try Super D. You'll feel like that G1 is like new again!
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Or you could just slap an rc29 .nbh file onto the sdcard, install that, and root as normal.
In theory...that's what everyone on forums keeps saying, but I was really frustrated because it doesn't work...at least it didn't work for me.
Were you ever able to do that successfully from the DMD64 build, or just rc30?
I don't know for sure, but I think a lot of people who were trying really hard to be helpful perhaps had rooted their phones before the last OTA update from T Mobile and therefore didn't realize there was a new problem.
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There are a couple of different nbh files for matching the particular region of your hardware. This technique most definitely DOES work, but since DREAM was available as ADP, anybody who ever HAD to was, by definition, either retarded, or bought it from someone who was retarded.
Well, I downloaded every findable .nbh file and none were allowed until I put them on a "goldcard."
Yes, I tried everything in the forums to the letter. I think I chiefly had trouble because everyone responded to other people with the same problem saying "it works, you just need to [insert common solution that I already tried]"
But I don't mean offence because I really do know that you are just trying to be helpful.
I just mean that unless you *actually* have rooted a DMD64 build, and you may have FAIK, you might just be adding to the problem...
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jontornblom said:
Well, I downloaded every findable .nbh file and none were allowed until I put them on a "goldcard."
Yes, I tried everything in the forums to the letter. I think I chiefly had trouble because everyone responded to other people with the same problem saying "it works, you just need to [insert common solution that I already tried]"
But I don't mean offence because I really do know that you are just trying to be helpful.
I just mean that unless you *actually* have rooted a DMD64 build, and you may have FAIK, you might just be adding to the problem...
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All that a goldcard does is it bypasses the CID check. If you do, in fact, have a tmobile branded phone with OEM firmware, then there is no benefit from a goldcard since the CID check will obviously pass since the hardware's CID matches the nbh's CID. Whatever you did differently that made the "goldcard" work had nothing to do with it being a goldcard.
Ah! You are smart! You actually just cleared up what happened with my phone and why I had so much trouble!
Here is what happened: I had just received the phone (Rogers branded) and was extremely new to Android and rooting. I attempted to root got it all done, running with cm6 etc. I overclocking it, but had made a mistake in one of my CPU speeds, freezing my phone. When I tried to reboot to recovery, I accidentally rebooted to hboot and the the t-mobile nbh was still on my SD and it installed. So I ended up with t-mobile stock 1.5. So now I had to go to work, and just left it with the uptake t-mobile Rom. In the middle of the day I got a "there is an update available" notice. I thought it was for an app (noob, I know) and let it update. That is how I got a Rogers branded phone with t-mobile 1.6 DMD64 software and why I needed the goldcard to re-flash the t-mobile cupcake!
Thanks for persisting with me and helping me figure out the mystery.
Cheers!
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Thank you sir for finding this solution. I'm in almost the exact same shoes you were in. Noob to Android/rooting. Got this G1 from a friend with 1.6 DMD64 already on there. No root methods have worked so far. Going to try the goldcard sometime today. Will confirm whether it works..
Goldcard was what worked for me! 1-Click method, however, did not work.
Used the text-instructions/downloads from theunlocker.com. I can't post links on XDA yet, so the titles of the articles are "How To Root The HTC G1/Dream" with warnings of how it's an outdated method (but still the only one that works for my DMD64). Then I used "How To Load A Custom Rom On The HTC G1/Dream."
Did not use the videos on those websites...instead used a YouTube video for guidance. Its title is "How To Root Your T-Mobile G1 with Android 1.6 Pt 1."
Successfully running Cyanogen 6 now. Compared to 1.6...Ridiculous UI improvement and a ridiculous battery life decrease.
I tried em all, and gotta say thatv though I wanted android 2.x, Super D was IMHO, without a doubt, the best ROM for the G1.
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[Q] Noob seeking Root advice

hi,
I want to root my Desire Z as I would like to use Titanium Back Up Pro. I have checked thru the threads here. And, well, I am totally confused.
On TheRomMistress's great sticky there are 27 guides with at least 11 dealing with rooting the phone. Some of these guides refer you to other guides and these refer you to yet more guides for various reasons (updates etc).
I know a lot of the guides were initially worked out before the whole NAND lock was cleared up.
So my question is which guide should a noob follow to get root?
I love the whole android experience, love Sense and think my phone is all shiny, sparkly etc. I may want at a later stage to try out some of the other ROMs but so far I really love stock (heck, my previous phone was a windows 2003 Magician with BigStorage courtesy of XDA!!). I just want to be able to back it up.
Thanks for your help guys.
personally i used this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=843014
worked well once i had reset my phone and made sure my sd card was clean. Read up on adb before you attempt though so you know what is happening at each stage, it makes the whole process easier. And if things don't work as expected you'll be able to sort it.
The method listed in the official Wiki is the one recommended by most people nowadays: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#OTA_Updates.
It is generally considered the "safe" way to attempt root at this point. There were reports of semi-bricks caused by the permroot function in Visionary so general consensus is not to use it. For other guides (such as the one linked to earlier), if you have a typo while flashing the engineering HBOOT, you could cause a semi-brick as well (though if you follow the instructions carefully, it shouldn't be a problem).
A typo with the Wiki method shouldn't lead to a semi-brick though. It also has the added benefits of not only giving you root, but also true radio S-OFF, SuperCID, and subsidy unlock (if your phone was originally locked to a specific carrier).
That being said, as long as you read carefully and follow instructions, you should be fine following most any of the guides.
thanks guys for the answers and sorry for my delay in replying. The wife came home with a new netbook that she "needs". I do get the joy of setting up something I'll never get to use. Yay!! hmmmm
I'll read thru all this and hope to try this out over the weekend.
Again thanks guys.
Just use gfree method, its painless
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Sorry for responding so late, just wanted to say thanks again. Took me ages to get around to doing this. Work just went crazy busy Again thanks for your help guys.

[Q] ROOTING of Vision (Desire Z) 2.3.3 Not Possible

Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I can figure out, there is no way of rooting the 2.3.3 version of the Desire Z?
All guides start with downgrade to exploidable firmware, and that is not possible without gaining at least temporary root access, and all previous methods are broken?
Anyone has any ideas that work?
MichaelBrandi said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I can figure out, there is no way of rooting the 2.3.3 version of the Desire Z?
All guides start with downgrade to exploidable firmware, and that is not possible without gaining at least temporary root access, and all previous methods are broken?
Anyone has any ideas that work?
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Of course it is! Don't you think there would be alot more angry people lol?! You have to obtain temp root on GB then downgrade to Froyo and get S-Off. It's a pain but I just did it on my friend's Evo Shift last month.
Thank you for answering I have spend several hours, and I can't get any of the temporary root solutions to function, they all seem to be ineffective against the current version?
Follow the XDA Vision wiki method. Shouldn't have any problems. I know someone that just did it last week and worked.
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I tried that, and just about any other method available, and non of them seem to be effective.
MichaelBrandi said:
I tried that, and just about any other method available, and non of them seem to be effective.
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Can you go into more details? Like error code or anything? Are you sure you have adb set up properly? plus, drivers too?
If you can't get fre3vo to work (the only step which might not work, every other step is gauranteed to) use a different exploit, either zergRush or tacoroot will work.
-Nipqer
Please post up exactly what steps aren't working. Then we can try and help you
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
Also Desire Z 2.3.3.
Hello guys,
I just wanted to ask, you say it is possible to root the 2.3.3. and you also said how. Actually I spent like 3 hours today by looking for the guides how to root this phone, and I am really scared to do it without previous asking.
all your responses were great, but I am really a newbie to these things, and those names you said (containing techniques how to root) didnt ring a bell in my head. Could you please just send me a link with a guide that will work?
downgrading and rooting
MichaelBrandi said:
I tried that, and just about any other method available, and non of them seem to be effective.
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I rooted and modded two G2 using this method and all went flawless, I read about ADB and how to use it, I read the guide several times to understand what was going to happen.
Read read read and then root and mod. The phones that I rooted were my first and second ever, I am NOT a dev nor am I an expert by any means. My point is that again if you read the entire post before trying anything then you will be successful. My phones were both on 2.3.3 and the process is not an easy one but works well. Hats off to those who took the time and effort to write the guide.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912 this is the link to the guide.
Thank you for your answer. In any of the threads somebody mentioned the CM´s rooting guide on wiki, I checked it out and I got the idea.
which one would you prefer? the one posted above or the CM´s?
The CM wiki is based off that xda thread.
I would recommend the xda one, as it includes flashgc (for goldcard generation), which the cm wiki doesn't.
-Nipqer
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I have a friend that just bought an HTC Vision(G2) with 2.3.4 and he has been unable to downgrade using xda or wiki. He thinks 2.3.4 is incompatible with these methods. He is familiar with adb and previously owned a Nexus One. Anyone know if his opinion is wrong?
These methods do work.
If for some weird reason fre3vo doesn't feel like working, you can use zergRush or tacoroot to gain temp-root (which I linked in a previous post in this thread)
-Nipqer
Adb can seem scary/difficult to setup to some, but it's not at all. Adb being a tool used in the rooting/unlocking process. See my signature for a link to a guide on setting up adb.
Please stay away from any so-called one-click rooting/unlocking solutions (especially Visionary), because a lot of them don't work, and some carry a high risk of bricking your phone. There is absolutely no risk of bricking your phone if you carefully follow the XDA Wiki guide. Read it first, and feel free to ask questions if you're not sure about something.
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
LikeaG2root said:
I have a friend that just bought an HTC Vision(G2) with 2.3.4 and he has been unable to downgrade using xda or wiki. He thinks 2.3.4 is incompatible with these methods. He is familiar with adb and previously owned a Nexus One. Anyone know if his opinion is wrong?
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It can be done and quite easily (took a while but it was very smooth). I did it on my friend's EVO Shift recently with 2.3.4 which is very close to our devices (an uglier cousin one might say lol). Sometimes if you get stuck, it helps to take a break. Also, don't over complicate things. Commands while using adb have to be precise. I suggest using copy and paste. Also double check you commands before hitting enter. I am quite sure 2.3.4 still works with frevo. Maybe his drivers are mixed up. That's usually what it is. Make sure you can get all your functions to work before rooting like usb tethering and whatnot.

Unlock Question.

Hi guys. I have been reading up on the forums for a couple days trying to figure this Root Unlock stuff out and it has me a little confused. I recently had a Samsung Galaxy S and rooted it no problem. But it seems that was much simplier than the things over here at HTC. So i have a couple quesitons. I am trying to unlock the phone from T-Mobile to AT&T. I understand that i could go to T-Mobile if my account has been active long enough, but sadly it hasn't.
1. I have found a couple guides on here explaining how to root and unlock but most of them seem overly complicated compared to rooting the Galaxy i used to have. Is this just due to it being HTC or have they just gotten way more complicated since then?
2. If i root it, then i should be able to unlock it so i can use it on AT&T by using the S=OFF guides i see around here right? I ask because i am not entirely sure what S=OFF even means, let alone what it has to do with unlocking the phone.
I have read a couple guides and it seems if i get it rooted it should be no problem to unlock using the S=OFF method, but it seems like rooting is a chore. If it is fairly easy then i will go for it no worries. And i understand that if anything happens it is my fault, i am just looking for the easiest method of unlocking this phone to AT&T aside from the unlock code from T-Mobile!
Thanks!
Sherms24 said:
Hi guys. I have been reading up on the forums for a couple days trying to figure this Root Unlock stuff out and it has me a little confused. I recently had a Samsung Galaxy S and rooted it no problem. But it seems that was much simplier than the things over here at HTC. So i have a couple quesitons. I am trying to unlock the phone from T-Mobile to AT&T. I understand that i could go to T-Mobile if my account has been active long enough, but sadly it hasn't.
1. I have found a couple guides on here explaining how to root and unlock but most of them seem overly complicated compared to rooting the Galaxy i used to have. Is this just due to it being HTC or have they just gotten way more complicated since then?
2. If i root it, then i should be able to unlock it so i can use it on AT&T by using the S=OFF guides i see around here right? I ask because i am not entirely sure what S=OFF even means, let alone what it has to do with unlocking the phone.
I have read a couple guides and it seems if i get it rooted it should be no problem to unlock using the S=OFF method, but it seems like rooting is a chore. If it is fairly easy then i will go for it no worries. And i understand that if anything happens it is my fault, i am just looking for the easiest method of unlocking this phone to AT&T aside from the unlock code from T-Mobile!
Thanks!
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My advice would be just to go ahead and root that bad boy, in the process of rooting it will be the option to unlock it. The thread is in the sticky section of the dev section. I'll post a link in one second.
EDIT: OK here's the link. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
Its pretty straight forward just follow it without shortcuts and you'll be fine.
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Gfree includes carrier unlock.

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