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My original question:
Anyone know how is this SD card support on Xoom?
I meant, is it micro SD card, mini or full size?
Is there any hardware slot?
Or is it via USB port?
I don't recall there is hardware slot there to insert SD card when I saw all those "hands on".
Answer from Motorola support can be seen from my update here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11546402&postcount=19
gogol said:
Anyone know how is this SD card support on Xoom?
I meant, is it micro SD card, mini or full size?
Is there any hardware slot?
Or is it via USB port?
I don't recall there is hardware slot there to insert SD card when I saw all those "hands on".
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All legit androids use microSD, as does the XOOM.
I don't know what you mean by hardware slot.
USB Port? Are you asking how the microSD slot interfaces with the device? Your question is good, because I too have been wondering where the SD Card goes.
http://www.androidcentral.com/motor...ardware-upgrade-4g-software-patch-microsd-use
I am not seeing any mention of SD card slot in the specs or in the user manual. Am I missing it somewhere?
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Motorol...rice/1946179.p?id=1218305636450&skuId=1946179
There is a microsd slot at the top of the device. I think i remember seeing it in a hands on video
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jvs60 said:
There is a microsd slot at the top of the device. I think i remember seeing it in a hands on video
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I saw it in a video but it was not the same model. It had a different color for the back. But it is odd that on Best Buy site the specs show NO for sd slot and no mention of it on Motorola site or user manual. Not sure why this is a big secret since it is a big deal and in fact, deal breaker for me if it is not there.
keitht said:
I saw it in a video but it was not the same model. It had a different color for the back. But it is odd that on Best Buy site the specs show NO for sd slot and no mention of it on Motorola site or user manual. Not sure why this is a big secret since it is a big deal and in fact, deal breaker for me if it is not there.
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I think I remember hearing somewhere around CES that the SD card slot didn't work and was going to be activated by a later patch. What's up with the Xoom being shipped with all kinds of missing functionality?
The BGR hands-on with the Xoom this week mentions the microSD slot is on the top of the device, along with the headphone jack and SIM slot (if applicable). There is a microSD slot on the device. It's been mentioned several times that it will require a software update from Moto to activate it - it's not clear whether that's a Google issue or a Motorola issue. There has been some speculation that it was because Android 3.0 didn't yet support SD cards at the time the Xoom was being demo'd.
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The BGR hands-on with the Xoom this week mentions the microSD slot is on the top of the device, along with the headphone jack and SIM slot (if applicable). There is a microSD slot on the device. It's been mentioned several times that it will require a software update from Moto to activate it - it's not clear whether that's a Google issue or a Motorola issue. There has been some speculation that it was because Android 3.0 didn't yet support SD cards at the time the Xoom was being demo'd.
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Perhaps that is why it is not mentioned in any of the official specs. Pretty lame for a $800 device. So I wonder if the slot is there, when it will actually work? Very sloppy.
on page 10 of the manual theres a reference to microsd card. as for where it is i remember seeing it on the top of the xoom during hands on videos.
socomdark said:
on page 10 of the manual theres a reference to microsd card. as for where it is i remember seeing it on the top of the xoom during hands on videos.
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Thanks, I missed that:
"Tips & tricks
• Photos and videos are stored on your micro SD
memory card."
I just hope it actually works without waiting for an update. It is odd that Best Buy specs for the device do not mention an SD slot even exists.
Yes. Support WILL come. I would love to know how they are having trouble with something so basic. Based on the Viewsonic G-Tablet labeling internal memory as SD 1 and the SD card as SD 2.. perhaps they are working on a more fluid integration of it. As long as they let me put the 50,000 apps I plan to install on the internal memory similar to App2SD I'm happy for now.
keitht said:
Perhaps that is why it is not mentioned in any of the official specs. Pretty lame for a $800 device. So I wonder if the slot is there, when it will actually work? Very sloppy.
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I'm not bashing the iPad, but do the expensive iPad WiFi+3G versions support microSD? No, they don't. MicroSD support will come, likely shortly after launch, and 32GB of storage will be enough to tide people over until it does. I'm not worried about it.
dwboston said:
I'm not bashing the iPad, but do the expensive iPad WiFi+3G versions support microSD? No, they don't. MicroSD support will come, likely shortly after launch, and 32GB of storage will be enough to tide people over until it does. I'm not worried about it.
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I don't understand this comparison. If Apple had a MicroSD card on the device, it would most definitely work out of the box.
dwboston said:
I'm not bashing the iPad, but do the expensive iPad WiFi+3G versions support microSD? No, they don't. MicroSD support will come, likely shortly after launch, and 32GB of storage will be enough to tide people over until it does. I'm not worried about it.
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An interesting point. iPad doesn't have the functionality at all and never will based on current devices. You have to decide how much space you want at release, which I find annoying as I always bought the cheapest device.
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I don't understand this comparison. If Apple had a MicroSD card on the device, it would most definitely work out of the box.
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On one hand, I agree, Apple never releases a device unfinished. On the other hand, they accomplish this by taking a long time for a device to come to market, and they are always behind in both specs and features.
Apple has proven the merit of a wholly controlled ecosystem that lends to a more solid device. Many people don't care about specs and advanced features.
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An interesting point. iPad doesn't have the functionality at all and never will based on current devices. You have to decide how much space you want at release, which I find annoying as I always bought the cheapest device.
On one hand, I agree, Apple never releases a device unfinished. On the other hand, they accomplish this by taking a long time for a device to come to market, and they are always behind in both specs and features.
Apple has proven the merit of a wholly controlled ecosystem that lends to a more solid device. Many people don't care about specs and advanced features.
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Apple does take their time and won't rush to just release a product.
I am sure motorola will have a patch ready to go soon if not already. they may have already gotten it done and put on the device.
Being an early adopter of gadgets I understand that sometimes the first release can be a little buggy.
However it bugs me that Motorola did not clarify these issues. No flash and no SD support out of the gate is something that should have been clarified to everyone. I have followed pretty closely the last month and did not realize either of these issues until today.
Having the promise of working features after day 1 is not always a lock as my Galaxy S phone was promised to have an update for flash support and an update to fix the GPS issue yet that has never happened.
i am still buying one on Thursday but will be deciding on the 29th day if I feel I can trust Motorola.
MOTO just wanted to wear the hat of "first to market a honeycomb tablet". Its a race for that hat, with solid patches coming down the pipe pretty quickly.
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An interesting point. iPad doesn't have the functionality at all and never will based on current devices. You have to decide how much space you want at release, which I find annoying as I always bought the cheapest device.
On one hand, I agree, Apple never releases a device unfinished. On the other hand, they accomplish this by taking a long time for a device to come to market, and they are always behind in both specs and features.
Apple has proven the merit of a wholly controlled ecosystem that lends to a more solid device. Many people don't care about specs and advanced features.
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Not sure why we are talking about the Ianything.. But Cut and Paste wasn't initially supported ... enough said.
This has been answered by the Motorola supports:
https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/45325?tstart=0
DansDroid wrote:
Yes Sir, received it today. Here are my readings with all of my apps and settings automatically transferred over. Total internal storage is 28.78gb., 698 mb. media, 518 mb. applications and 27.60 gb. available. There is an external sliding door for the external microSD card and SIM tray that will allow for the Verizon 4G LTE card when both are available in a future software upgrade. The external microSD card, when enabled, will support up to 32 gb., as I had thought. --- Dan
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So, apparently, this could be something NEW to Android.
There is only 1 single partition for all apps, media, files, etc.
That's good!
I think I talked about this in a different thread, but the reason for the delay in sd card support is because the sd card will not be mounted/unmounted whenever you plug it into the pc. Which I would prefer. Having my sd card mount and unmount every time I plug it into the pc is annoying.
This is the reason for the delay. Rebuilding the wheel takes some time.
I Just seen the Elocity A10 listed on tiger.
64GB $699
32GB $599
4GB $449 the 16GB not even listed on tiger
WLAN N
Claiming true multi touch this time for A10's
still ships with 2.2 froyo
Looks like the same pointless 1.3mp cam and still front facing(yes I know web cam)
with all the extra space you would think they would switch to full size SD
I truly have nothing against the elocity. I have an A7 with the 1.3 dex mod loving it, but wife wants it so I'm gonna spring for a Enspert Identy tab E201U. Looks promising and very comparable.
The tablet eLocity A10 and prices, and mt discussed already here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=941603
A10 models starting to show up.
I just saw all 3 models of eLocity A10 on Tiger Direct for pre-order today. Amazon has it up but only on adding to wishlist when it becomes available. I am soo tempted right now to take my A7 back and get this A10 for just an extra 100 dollars to spend. I wonder if it is even worth it. If SteamTV can't release a fix for the sdram issue or at least add upgrade to gingerbread, I'm going to A10.
Poradicus said:
I just saw all 3 models of eLocity A10 on Tiger Direct for pre-order today. Amazon has it up but only on adding to wishlist when it becomes available. I am soo tempted right now to take my A7 back and get this A10 for just an extra 100 dollars to spend. I wonder if it is even worth it. If SteamTV can't release a fix for the sdram issue or at least add upgrade to gingerbread, I'm going to A10.
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What "sdram issue" ?
Sorry meant SD Mirco card where it wouldn't work properly with A7.
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Sorry meant SD Mirco card where it wouldn't work properly with A7.
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What issue? I don't have any issues with sdcard...
Dexter_nlb said:
this is all a misunderstanding of how tablets are supposed to work, and caused by the fact that android 2.2 is made for a phone with external memory cards, and less to nothing of internal memory.
the current installation where apps are "moved" to internal storage is actually how vendors are trying to implement 2 types of storage.
comparing this to a mobile with just sdcard, and android 2.2 only supporting one storage type, the preferred storage becomes the "internal" and sdcard handling as you notice is now pointing to a location with the internal storage location.
the mountpoint at the internal storage location is planned based on the fact that users coming from an android based mobile knows alot about where to find data, which is in the storage location, so its put as mount at the storage so its easy to access, and not actually any bug at all.
so until better handling is presented (hopefully 3.0) people will continue to think that the handling is wrong or something is not wright here, but it is correct.
your internal storage of "just" 1.5GB is the preferred location, as tablets are not meant to have sdcards as preferred storage, if you chose not to put a sdcard into the tablet. so the choice was easy, use internal storage for android so ppl didnt need to buy additional cards.
but the lack of storage internally is a vendor decision, not a bug or not "the android way" a problem in any way..
imagine, those users without any sdcard, being unable to use the feature of android to a storage, and needed to use data storage for all files, that would look strange, if you didnt have the option available..
it could have been planned differently but vendors (all of the tegra2 vendors) has chosen this path, which could have been done differently but its all relate to apps and how they expect your device to work..
a long explanation, but remember 2.2 is not made for tablets, it made for small devices with external memory cards, which is long overdue and is followed up with the new android 3.0 which hopefully solves your problem.
conclusion,
Nvidia could have chosen a different way of using android, but they're still rather new to the platform and their design is not without problems yet (honeycomb will show that too), so if they used real planning and organized memory and sdcard handling like 2.2 was made for, you would have no problems at all. Remember Nvidia designed it this way, and they are the reason you have problems..Lack of knowledge of design and functionality, like BMW trying to make graphics card for a pc, coming from designing cars, their work would not be in a class like nvidia graphics, but probably ok..but far from good..
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to answer you last question, usb to pc..
ill figure some idea out on the next update, as the tablet do support host/client usb port setup (recently confirmed), but i think you noticed the tablet don't have a port for connecting to your pc for now..
to enable the usb to pc connectivity you need a special usb cable, and software that changes the usb port mode. which can be solved, but disables the functionality of usb sticks etc, connecting to it.
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Yet another in a line of many "problems" that could have been solved by reading the information that is already here.
Curious to know whether our phones, or any other similar phones, will support this new type of SD card? I've heard of it being tested in SGS2 and others, and it working, but what I'm curious about is whether we will actually be able to utilize the full storage capacity of the new cards?
I'll probably be looking to pick one up when it approached the £50-80 price range.
Before people start saying "why do you need that much space?" My response will be music and videos and when a 128GB card comes out, I'll be getting that too
Thank you in advance for any info, and hopefully this will help others too who are unsure how our phones will handle this card.
Hi,
in general it is working.
See also here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1281585
regards,
tom
Thanks for the reply. Have already seen that link though and saw the comment about it being only able to access 32GB. This is what confused me in the first place because I assumed if it worked, then it would work to fully storage capacity.
I'm also thinking about getting a 64gb sdxc card (also got a lot of music, videos and apps).
So if you're gonna get on of those cards please report if they work properly.
Thanks in advance.
I believe the capability to access 64gb is based off firmware or something. If you can upgrade the firmware that is related to the card reader on the phone, it would probably do the trick, otherwise it probably wont work.
Will probably wait until this is confirmed to work properly on our phones. The price will drop over the next year or two so don't really want to splash out 100 quid on something which I may not able to be use properly until I get my next phone. Will post here if I hear any news in the future though.
hey guys and girls, I know its an old thread, but still can't find proof the 64GB sdxc card works... somebody already tried it?
The G2/DZ supports SDHC (max of 32GB), it will not support SDXC (least not officially, use at your own risk).
Hi, several of we GT 10.1" tab owners over in the tab specific area are looking into adding a external micro SD to our tabs. I am hoping that we might find some more expertise and input in this section of the forum.
The ongoing thread we are discussing the mod in can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1600661, but hopefully we can merge the threads, or somehow keep things straight, but it seems this may be the more appropriate forum section.
Brief recap is that it appears the early/pre-release GT-P7500 had an external SD card. My later model GT-P7510 has the associated area on the MOBO unpopulated. I found the connectors, the OP in the thread found the factory SD card holders. I used my tab for a test, soldered the the connector on, and early indications are it is not functioning. So far I haven't been able to dig back into it, but common consensus is that the unpopulated area near the SD reader connector is needed. I have a lot of experience with simpler analog electronics, and analog design, but to repopulate the needed components with no idea of where to start is beyond the scope of my abilities.
We have the GT-P7500 service manual, at least most of it I think. The MOBO photos in the manual show the area populated, but the photos are to low resolution to gain any useful data. I found some supposedly leaked FCC photos of the tab disassembled pre-release. It also shows the SD card area populated, and this one shows the SD card holder as well, but again low resolution.
Currently we are hoping that maybe the very early HW revisions of the 3g GT-p7500 may have had the SD card area populated, and possibly one of you owners could help us.
If anyone has any input, or can help build the circuit from the ground up I am happy to provide any testing/data/pinouts I can.
On a side note-- does anyone know how many times I can disassemble my tab without ruining the case?
Thanks in advance folks!
Jason Campbell
In addition to any missing components, you need to figure out which SDHCI interface of the CPU that is hung off of and add it to the platdata:
https://github.com/pershoot/galaxy-2636/blob/ics/arch/arm/mach-tegra/board-p4wifi-sdhci.c#L296
Looks like 3 is the internal eMMC, 0 is the wifi chip (BCM4329 and 4330 are SDIO wifi chipsets), 1 and 2 are not used.
I too have been toying around with this idea. Looks like I'm not alone in thinking this tab would rock with a microsd. Only you guys are way farther ahead than me! Also I know for a fact that the gtab 10.1 v2 that's coming out sometime this year will have an SD slot. And it looks like little else that's different. Maybe when one of us gets our hands on it we can see on the inside where things are populated or not.
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Hipcatjack said:
I too have been toying around with this idea. Looks like I'm not alone in thinking this tab would rock with a microsd. Only you guys are way farther ahead than me! Also I know for a fact that the gtab 10.1 v2 that's coming out sometime this year will have an SD slot. And it looks like little else that's different. Maybe when one of us gets our hands on it we can see on the inside where things are populated or not.
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Turns out that you're most likely wrong on this - all evidence (including the recent source release I believe) indicates the Tab2 10.1 will be OMAP4-based just like the Tab2 7.0 is.
interesting thanks
Looks like I will finally have some free time to open my tab up again. I plan to ring out the SD card holder to the connector, and then on out from there. I will go at least as far as the unpop area if that is indeed where it leads. While I have it open, do you folks have any suggestions as to other testing or mapping to do? I appreciate the input so far-- I don't really know much about the software side, but we can burn that bridge if/when we get there. Will keep you all posted.
Later,
Jason
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Hi! Do you know that if you add a sd-card extension, you must develop new drivers and kernels? And this could probably make you lose your warranty...
SD card
why do manufactures insist on leaving sd card slots off the build? doesnt seem like it would cost to much include one.
thanks for this
Hi,
My friend has a 10.1 GT 7500,
He bought an external adapter for sdcard.
Perhaps you can use the layout schemas from such a device to discover what you need to make it work internally.
Its probaply the same "signal wires" but now abvailable on the external connector.
Hope this helps/.
lyoddxd said:
Hi! Do you know that if you add a sd-card extension, you must develop new drivers and kernels? And this could probably make you lose your warranty...
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Yes, thank you. The tab has been rooted and running experimental roms from ~6hrs after I bought it. Warranty has been void for quite a while...
macdova said:
why do manufactures insist on leaving sd card slots off the build? doesnt seem like it would cost to much include one.
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I doubt so much that it is the hardware costs, although it would add up to a significant amount, but rather due to the desire to sell the more costly tabs with more internal memory. After all, why would the you buy a 64gb tab for $200 more than the 16gb one, when you could throw in a 32gb card for $30? It seems pretty clear in this case, Sammy had developed the tab with external SD. There are lots of photos floating around of the pre-release tabs with slots. There is some evidence that they planned this nearly to the last minute, as we are buying the factory holders which "don't exist" on ebay. Unless they could not get the SD reader working properly or had more issues than the time solving was worth, then I think all things point toward this being a plain and simple money move.
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Hi,
My friend has a 10.1 GT 7500,
He bought an external adapter for sdcard.
Perhaps you can use the layout schemas from such a device to discover what you need to make it work internally.
Its probaply the same "signal wires" but now abvailable on the external connector.
Hope this helps/.
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I appreciate the input, I have the Sammy autherized adapters. These all use the USB OTG protocol, and I think it is unlikely that the hardware will be the same. I will deffenitely investigate this though.
Thanks,
Jason
If you don't succeed with the adapters you could do what i'm trying to do with the Kindle Fire. I'm building in a microsd adapter for use with USB host.
Read here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25953776
Since I don't have a Galaxy tab I can't really be of any more use, sorry.
Disclaimer: I have no vested interest in you buying one of these.
I just got one of these about two weeks ago. So far, so good especially given the low price. The only serious downside is the battery is on the small side but unless you must watch streaming video for hours at a time, probably not going to be an issue. Screen is very as is the ability to have SD, hdmi and a usb port that actually works. It only has ICS on it and I think the build date is jan 25. But my best guess from trying to decipher the chinese or korean Hyundai website is that they will have a JB update after the official release at MWC. Device also appears to be built by Samsung but not 100% certain on that. If you want a lot more details about it (way more than would be appropriate) here http://www.gedankenexperiment.dk/pivot/entry.php?id=865&w=rant
beezle said:
Disclaimer: I have no vested interest in you buying one of these.
I just got one of these about two weeks ago. So far, so good especially given the low price. The only serious downside is the battery is on the small side but unless you must watch streaming video for hours at a time, probably not going to be an issue. Screen is very as is the ability to have SD, hdmi and a usb port that actually works. It only has ICS on it and I think the build date is jan 25. But my best guess from trying to decipher the chinese or korean Hyundai website is that they will have a JB update after the official release at MWC. Device also appears to be built by Samsung but not 100% certain on that. If you want a lot more details about it (way more than would be appropriate) here http://www.gedankenexperiment.dk/pivot/entry.php?id=865&w=rant
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I just bought a Hyundai T7s via an Amazon reseller in the UK, and it too works very well indeed. It's hard to believe it's so much cheaper than a Nexus 7 and yet has USB on the go and so on working right out of the box, not to mention a micro sd card slot etc. The only pain so far is the dedicated charger - it's a shame it doesn't charge via micro usb. Exynos Abuse root method works perfectly which is great.
Ouzo said:
I just bought a Hyundai T7s via an Amazon reseller in the UK, and it too works very well indeed. It's hard to believe it's so much cheaper than a Nexus 7 and yet has USB on the go and so on working right out of the box, not to mention a micro sd card slot etc. The only pain so far is the dedicated charger - it's a shame it doesn't charge via micro usb. Exynos Abuse root method works perfectly which is great.
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Apparently charging by USB is possible but has to do with the current provided. Check the T7 thread at slatedroid.
Huyndai is one of the best companies worldwide.
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This is a review and not a deal.
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