[Q] what is stored on the HD2 internal storage? - HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera

besides apps, is there anything else stored in the internal storage? i just got android on my HD2 and got everything set up, and i really don't feel like formatting my sd for a2sd, and i won't need too much space for apps.
also, is there a way to install apps on the sd without formatting anything? thanks.

System stuff, like the system.img from the android build you downloaded, uhh cache, HSPL/SPL, MAGLDR (This is if you're using a NAND android build). Mhm, pretty much that? Note even if you delete some system stuff it won't really free of storage for apps, as the memory is partitioned (meaning that it has a set amount of available space for apps, etc, and a set amount for system).
Well you could use the the freed system data for apps, just navigate to /system/apps and copy your apks to there. You can use droid or root explorer, or any explorer that has access to the roots of your device.
You can try move2sd, but it doesn't completely install the app to sd, it just moves a big chunk of the app to sd, leaving some left in the phone.

huh, seems like moving to sd will work for stuff like Astro File Manager but not system stuff PowerAmp. gonna try games if i can get them to download from the market.
have another question. is it possible for WP7 to load from the SD and boot from android, preferably without deleting the contents of the sd? i can't deal with magldr because of my touch screen problems. whenever i use the end key, my touch screen could start freezing, and i've set up android so that i never have to use the end key.

isoDUB said:
huh, seems like moving to sd will work for stuff like Astro File Manager but not system stuff PowerAmp. gonna try games if i can get them to download from the market.
have another question. is it possible for WP7 to load from the SD and boot from android, preferably without deleting the contents of the sd? i can't deal with magldr because of my touch screen problems. whenever i use the end key, my touch screen could start freezing, and i've set up android so that i never have to use the end key.
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WP7 needs to be installed on NAND with magldr. You can run android off SD,then. Thats the only way to dualboot.

zarathustrax said:
WP7 needs to be installed on NAND with magldr. You can run android off SD,then. Thats the only way to dualboot.
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crap.. i was afraid of that. oh well. guess i'll stick with android for now. will prepaid work with the web daypass on t-mobile?

Kailkti said:
Note even if you delete some system stuff it won't really free of storage for apps, as the memory is partitioned (meaning that it has a set amount of available space for apps, etc, and a set amount for system).
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Wow didn't realize that... thanks for the insightful info

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memory card ?

sorry for this question but i've just got this amazing phone but i've put some apps on the sd card and can't find the sd card on the phone ? even googled this but to no avail ! please help a newbie , thanks !
you mean the physical location of the SD Card? Its under the back cover. You need to remove the battery to get it out.
Also, apps are not stored on the SD card, but rather on the internal memory of the phone.
A couple of things. First you need to set up the phone for non market applications. This is done thru Menu>>settings>>applications and check the box that says Unknown Sources.
Next, if you use Astro or some other file manager, you can go to /sdcard and whatever folder you keep your apps in.
I use EOEAppsinstaller to do this. It searches the whole SD card to find any APK files. Works great.
QMAN101 said:
A couple of things. First you need to set up the phone for non market applications. This is done thru Menu>>settings>>applications and check the box that says Unknown Sources.
Next, if you use Astro or some other file manager, you can go to /sdcard and whatever folder you keep your apps in.
I use EOEAppsinstaller to do this. It searches the whole SD card to find any APK files. Works great.
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thanks i'll try that !
It wasn't the physical finding of the card its how to access it to install apk files and a movie I installed !
does this means i can put applications on sd card without rooting my n1
audino said:
does this means i can put applications on sd card without rooting my n1
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Yes and no. You can put apk's that you find on the net so you can put them on the SD card so you can install them but as for installing them so they run off the SD card that won't happen until you root the phone.
marra2 said:
thanks i'll try that !
It wasn't the physical finding of the card its how to access it to install apk files and a movie I installed !
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+1 for Astro File Manager! It also has a built in apk installer AND task killer. I love multitasking apps.
your movie should appear in the Gallery
twiggy114 said:
Yes and no. You can put apk's that you find on the net so you can put them on the SD card so you can install them but as for installing them so they run off the SD card that won't happen until you root the phone.
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ah oke im able to instal apps from sd card... i only have 162 free phone memory is this ok? i thought it comes with 512 memory and 512 ram?
audino said:
ah oke im able to instal apps from sd card... i only have 162 free phone memory is this ok? i thought
audino said:
ah oke im able to instal apps from sd card... i only have 162 free phone memory is this ok? i thought it comes with 512 memory and 512 ram?
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another yes and no. Due to a bug both RAM AND ROM are limited to ~230MB ...all are waiting for the next update.
Took me 10 mins to type this in landscape mode due to keyboard bugs!
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audino said:
ah oke im able to instal apps from sd card... i only have 162 free phone memory is this ok? i thought it comes with 512 memory and 512 ram?
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The 512MB Flash ROM is shared between the OS and your installed apps. The amount left over for your installed apps after the system reserves space for the OS, scratch, recovery, and update partitions is around 190MB or so. Google mentioned that they are working on allowing us to store installed apps on the SD card so the size of this partition should not matter eventually.
The 512MB RAM is not used for storing the apps, it is used for running them and is a different set of memory. In 2.1 there is a kernel limitation that prevents them from using all 512MB just yet, but the next version of the Android Linux kernel will remove that restriction and we should see another 100 to 150 MB of memory available for use. That improvement won't have any impact on how many apps you can install, just on how many apps you can run at the same time and how much work they can do before they elbow other apps out of the way.
flarbear said:
The 512MB Flash ROM is shared between the OS and your installed apps. The amount left over for your installed apps after the system reserves space for the OS, scratch, recovery, and update partitions is around 190MB or so. Google mentioned that they are working on allowing us to store installed apps on the SD card so the size of this partition should not matter eventually.
The 512MB RAM is not used for storing the apps, it is used for running them and is a different set of memory. In 2.1 there is a kernel limitation that prevents them from using all 512MB just yet, but the next version of the Android Linux kernel will remove that restriction and we should see another 100 to 150 MB of memory available for use. That improvement won't have any impact on how many apps you can install, just on how many apps you can run at the same time and how much work they can do before they elbow other apps out of the way.
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Sound cool if they really let us install on sd would be very nice and for me no more reasons to root my n1
audino said:
Sound cool if they really let us install on sd would be very nice and for me no more reasons to root my n1
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Even more importantly - there would be no more disincentive for developers to start creating more interesting media-rich applications.
As it stands now, if you put a 10MB app on the market very few are going to be willing to waste that much space on their phone to download it. So, you wouldn't make much money on it. So, you are likely not going to bother developing it.
With relaxed storage restrictions will come nicer (looking, at least) apps...

Installing Apps to Phone vs. SD

I'm using MDJ's FroYo Revolution 1.7 build (kern: 6.1) and was wondering how app installation works. When I install apps, do they go to the phone's built in memory? If so, would it be possible for me to move these apps to my SD card without messing anything up? Thanks in advance.
Android is currently run from the sdcard. Installed apps end up in the data.img file that gets created during first boot.
miharkula said:
Android is currently run from the sdcard. Installed apps end up in the data.img file that gets created during first boot.
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Exactly right, as Android cannot access the phones storage (until Nand rears it's head) the data.img on your phone is what native Android phones see as "internal" storage.
Is there any way to intall virtual sd card?
I cant intall any game of navigation....
That just makes everything so much clearer. Thank you for the replies.

New HTC HD2 user again :)

Hi I just wanted to say thank you to all of your hard work on this site. Both admin and developers. I didn't expect much when I bought this phone, I got very good price and it was brand new, so why not. Just got it 4 days ago.
Than I did some youtube and saw some pretty cool stuff, and here I am
Anyway, I tested out Android on SD and it was cool, I like it better than WM6.5 but camera could have been better. Feels like WM6.5 camera is better.
Now today I decided to try out Nand version. Omg it took me like 4-5hours, I know lots of information is already there, so I study, study and study. Decided to go with
[28 MAR][CWM ZIP]★★★★★HyperDroid-CM7-v1.0.4[a2sd+][CyanogenMod7 2.3.3][Tytung_R8.3]
Everything went smooth, except that I almost killed myself, it was not easy but it was fun. Lots of reboot on HD2 thou.
Anyway everything seems to be running fine and it feel smooth and good. About Ram I saw it list 411 but I guess it's correct because system use the rest.
Anyway sorry for making this long, I have one question. I tried to edit build.prop but without success. I tried and copy to memory and than to pc and edit there to make icon bigger. But when I tried to copy it over to root/system it fail. Same thing when I download text editor from Market and edit on phone, it can't save. How can I make icon bigger if I can't save the file?
Thanks for a wonderful site.
for editing build.prop you should get root explorer from the market or the internet.
then in root explorer go to /stystem and there is you build.prop
then click open in text editor and you should be fine
Taftus said:
Hi I just wanted to say thank you to all of your hard work on this site. Both admin and developers. I didn't expect much when I bought this phone, I got very good price and it was brand new, so why not. Just got it 4 days ago.
Than I did some youtube and saw some pretty cool stuff, and here I am
Anyway, I tested out Android on SD and it was cool, I like it better than WM6.5 but camera could have been better. Feels like WM6.5 camera is better.
Now today I decided to try out Nand version. Omg it took me like 4-5hours, I know lots of information is already there, so I study, study and study. Decided to go with
[28 MAR][CWM ZIP]★★★★★HyperDroid-CM7-v1.0.4[a2sd+][CyanogenMod7 2.3.3][Tytung_R8.3]
Everything went smooth, except that I almost killed myself, it was not easy but it was fun. Lots of reboot on HD2 thou.
Anyway everything seems to be running fine and it feel smooth and good. About Ram I saw it list 411 but I guess it's correct because system use the rest.
Anyway sorry for making this long, I have one question. I tried to edit build.prop but without success. I tried and copy to memory and than to pc and edit there to make icon bigger. But when I tried to copy it over to root/system it fail. Same thing when I download text editor from Market and edit on phone, it can't save. How can I make icon bigger if I can't save the file?
Thanks for a wonderful site.
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if you need any help with anything.. feel free to ask btw, try typhoon's gingerbread rom, no reboot issue
You need to make system R/W,its prolly in read only mode so you need to change it to read&write.
Thanks guys, I will play some more with the phone, haven't got time today. Just testing out some games. Since WM6.5 had very bad Market and barely any games. I tried not to ask to much, but do some research for my own, there's already so much written in forum. But sometimes it's kinda difficult to find the answer.
[email protected] Thanks, gonna try root explorer tonight.
Cheers!
PS: Have been having some issue, like sometimes I press back and phone freeze and stop responding. Suddenly it reboot itself. Happens 2 times.
Root Explorer works like charm!
Btw I see that Internal Storage is kinda small, it's like what 200mb or something?
Feels like some stuff that install, can't be remove to SD card. Wont this be a issue? I had a message told me that I have almost no space left :/
And btw games that I have for Android, like Angry Birds. Where does save games go? on SD card? Because I am receiving a new SD card on Friday and would love to use that one but don't wanna loose all save for my games.
Taftus said:
Root Explorer works like charm!
Btw I see that Internal Storage is kinda small, it's like what 200mb or something?
Feels like some stuff that install, can't be remove to SD card. Wont this be a issue? I had a message told me that I have almost no space left :/
And btw games that I have for Android, like Angry Birds. Where does save games go? on SD card? Because I am receiving a new SD card on Friday and would love to use that one but don't wanna loose all save for my games.
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well for me on this build most of the apps work while on sd card.
some apps btw don't work on gingerbread builds.
well for the SD card you can just copy all the files you have on there to your new one right? that way you definately won't lose anything
XthelordinatorX said:
well for me on this build most of the apps work while on sd card.
some apps btw don't work on gingerbread builds.
well for the SD card you can just copy all the files you have on there to your new one right? that way you definately won't lose anything
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I got 32GB Kingston yesterday, I copy all from my old card to PC, and than copy it over to new one. I had some problem at beginning, files wont install. But than I took new one out and reformat with SDFormatter, it seems to works fine now.
But unfortunately my saves files don't seems to work. I re-install Angry Birds but I have to start all over again.
Btw when you click on Apps button on homepage you get lots of apps/games, and you can make a new folder, and than customize it. But can you delete a folder call "All"
Taftus said:
Hi I just wanted to say thank you to all of your hard work on this site. Both admin and developers. I didn't expect much when I bought this phone, I got very good price and it was brand new, so why not. Just got it 4 days ago.
Than I did some youtube and saw some pretty cool stuff, and here I am
Anyway, I tested out Android on SD and it was cool, I like it better than WM6.5 but camera could have been better. Feels like WM6.5 camera is better.
Now today I decided to try out Nand version. Omg it took me like 4-5hours, I know lots of information is already there, so I study, study and study. Decided to go with
[28 MAR][CWM ZIP]★★★★★HyperDroid-CM7-v1.0.4[a2sd+][CyanogenMod7 2.3.3][Tytung_R8.3]
Everything went smooth, except that I almost killed myself, it was not easy but it was fun. Lots of reboot on HD2 thou.
Anyway everything seems to be running fine and it feel smooth and good. About Ram I saw it list 411 but I guess it's correct because system use the rest.
Anyway sorry for making this long, I have one question. I tried to edit build.prop but without success. I tried and copy to memory and than to pc and edit there to make icon bigger. But when I tried to copy it over to root/system it fail. Same thing when I download text editor from Market and edit on phone, it can't save. How can I make icon bigger if I can't save the file?
Thanks for a wonderful site.
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Simply download LCD density from market
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But I already got my answer how to fix bigger icon
But thank you for the information.
By the way when I flash to newest version of Hyperdroid do I need to make new partition so it work with APP2SD+ to work with exern patition?
Guys I just change Rom to:
[12.Apr.11][CWM ZIP]★★★★★HyperDroidGBX-v12[GRI54-2.3.3][a2sd+][TytR8.3][INSANE SPEED]
And I did the same in clockwork I made 1gb partition and install Rom. But it doesn't seems to work
I install games and they seems to be on phone only, but not before when I use other rom. What did I do wrong?
Not quite sure what you're getting at. When you make a partition, the phone recognizes that partition as additional space, or just available space the phone has. In other words, partition space is phone space according to the rom. So your apps when installed to the partition should say they are installed to phone. Correct me if this is not what you wanted or trying to get at.
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Not quite sure what you're getting at. When you make a partition, the phone recognizes that partition as additional space, or just available space the phone has. In other words, partition space is phone space according to the rom. So your apps when installed to the partition should say they are installed to phone. Correct me if this is not what you wanted or trying to get at.
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Sorry if I didn't explain correctly. What I want is the extra extern space. As you know HD2 have small intern storage. And on my last Rom I did partition 1gb before I install the Rom. And when I install apps/games they all went to that extern instead of phone's intern.
But I did exactly same thing with this Rom, but it seems that games/apps that I used on last Rom, they went on phone's intern instead of that partition I made. Is there anyway I can make sure there's a extern partition? Any program that I can check with?
HD2 rules!
This week I bought my 3rd hd2 (I bought them and sold them in the past) like you study a lot and finally flashed the nandroid and finally feel android running as it deserves
BTW for density I recomend using 217, its the natural dpis for our scren size & resolution.
Taftus said:
Sorry if I didn't explain correctly. What I want is the extra extern space. As you know HD2 have small intern storage. And on my last Rom I did partition 1gb before I install the Rom. And when I install apps/games they all went to that extern instead of phone's intern.
But I did exactly same thing with this Rom, but it seems that games/apps that I used on last Rom, they went on phone's intern instead of that partition I made. Is there anyway I can make sure there's a extern partition? Any program that I can check with?
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Some ROM's you have to turn on auto moving to SD card in the settings. Check there. Anything currently on your phone will have to be moved to the SD card via application manager.
You run any Linux? Easiest way to work with your SD card.
nac5000 said:
BTW for density I recomend using 217, its the natural dpis for our scren size & resolution.
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I love using 167! Puts so much more on the screen.
digiholic said:
Some ROM's you have to turn on auto moving to SD card in the settings. Check there. Anything currently on your phone will have to be moved to the SD card via application manager.
You run any Linux? Easiest way to work with your SD card.
I love using 167! Puts so much more on the screen.
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I can't find where I can setup it to move to SD card. Look everywhere in settings. No I use Windows 7, is there anyway to reformate SD card for extra extern without re-install Rom?
Taftus said:
I can't find where I can setup it to move to SD card. Look everywhere in settings. No I use Windows 7, is there anyway to reformate SD card for extra extern without re-install Rom?
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settings -> cyanogenmod settings -> application
That's where you turn on auto moving. Anything already installed will need moved manually via settings -> applications -> manage applications. Click on a program and choose "move to SD card".
Easy partition creation:
Reformat the whole thing in Win7 using default allocation size.
Boot into MAGLDR -> AD Recovery to enter CWM Recovery Mode
Once in CWM choose advanced, then choose Partition SD card, then choose the size of the partition (Maximum of 1024M recommended)
The choose 0 for the swap and partition away.
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I saw you already did the partition trick with CWM. If you did that before installing HyperdroidGBX it all should work.
digiholic said:
settings -> cyanogenmod settings -> application
That's where you turn on auto moving. Anything already installed will need moved manually via settings -> applications -> manage applications. Click on a program and choose "move to SD card".
Easy partition creation:
Reformat the whole thing in Win7 using default allocation size.
Boot into MAGLDR -> AD Recovery to enter CWM Recovery Mode
Once in CWM choose advanced, then choose Partition SD card, then choose the size of the partition (Maximum of 1024M recommended)
The choose 0 for the swap and partition away.
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I saw you already did the partition trick with CWM. If you did that before installing HyperdroidGBX it all should work.
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Problem is that I use:
[12.Apr.11][CWM ZIP]★★★★★HyperDroidGBX-v12[GRI54-2.3.3][a2sd+][TytR8.3][INSANE SPEED]
There's no cyanogenmod like last Rom I use.
My PC is Windows 7, hm so you mean I format SD Card first on my PC default setup? And than put it in to phone and boot in to CWM and than partition in there? Do I have to re-install my Rom?
Taftus said:
Problem is that I use:
[12.Apr.11][CWM ZIP]★★★★★HyperDroidGBX-v12[GRI54-2.3.3][a2sd+][TytR8.3][INSANE SPEED]
There's no cyanogenmod like last Rom I use.
My PC is Windows 7, hm so you mean I format SD Card first on my PC default setup? And than put it in to phone and boot in to CWM and than partition in there? Do I have to re-install my Rom?
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We are using the same ROM. Did you check in settings? Mine has the cyanogenmod settings.
And yes to the partitioning. That's how I did mine. Not sure if the ROM need reinstalled as I've always had my card partitioned before the install.

Running out of space

As the title suggests on my N1 i keep running out of memory space. I use APP2SD but not all of the apps can get transfered. So what can i do to fix this problem? Some apps like Shazam i need,K-9,handcent, Flextp, but apps like Quickoffice and books i dont need but those wont delete.Any advice?
Install Titanium Backup.
Use to to either uninstall the apps you dont want (including ones built into ROM if youre rooted) AND/OR us it to force apps to the SD card.
KidTech said:
but apps like Quickoffice and books i dont need but those wont delete.
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Since they're in /system/app, you cannot delete them without rooting. And even if you can delete them, it won't help you to solve your problem. If you want many application without having space problem, you need to root, install custom rom, use Apps2SD(it will install applications to SD card Ext partition) or Data2Ext.
I'm in the same boat as well. I am consistently hovering around 21-22 mb free. With all the recent updates, it eats up all my memory.
Freaking flash is still 12 mb, google maps is 9.7 mb, music 7.7 etc. Half the google apps I don't even use such as books 4.3 mb and goggles 3.8 mb.
I have to uninstall a few programs every once in a while so I can update another...uggh I guess Google didn't see this coming when they made the n1!
I'm with you. It's annoying as crap.
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Try to see if you can find move2SD Enabler (not sure if it's on the market). It forces your apps to be able to move to SD card. It requires you to be rooted so I'm not sure if that's up your alley or not
Really rooting is your only solution. With root you can have hundreds of MB free, or even cyanogen ROM lets you move all apps giving me 120 MB free with my 89 apps installed.
RogerPodacter said:
Really rooting is your only solution. With root you can have hundreds of MB free, or even cyanogen ROM lets you move all apps giving me 120 MB free with my 89 apps installed.
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Are you using dalvik to sd too? Im using dtapps2sd and i get between 18--23mb of free space on any given day. My sd card is too slow for dalvik to sd, and anything below 20mb and i stop getting things like email notifications.
If you are rooted... and if you have a decent SD Card (I just use the one that came with mine). I would suggest putting something on it that supports Darktremor. I swear by it for sure... after setting up an sd-ext... installing Darktremor and then running cachesd... I have tons of programs on my phone and I constantly put more on and have not had any issues since. Before, I would run out of memory even with dta2sd. I started removing stuff I didn't use often then decided to finally try out cache2sd and... now... no more problems. It seems like it might be a bit slower on the startup than before (though I never tested to see if it actually is or by how much) but after that it seems to run smooth as silk for me with tons of room to spare. My sd-ext is only 512 MB but you can modify it as you like with the proper partitioning utilities.
Though... this suggestion comes with the advice that you might want to know a bit about what it is I am suggesting before you actually do it. Read into it before you try anything.
Others have lightly touched on it, but most of the google apps are installed directly to the /system partition which is separate from where your downloaded apps are installed. Really, the only way to get additional space is by rooting your phone. The easiest thing to do would be to get Titanium Backup and merge all the updates for system apps back into the ROM. Whenever a system app gets updated, the updated program chews up your available space unless you merge it back into the ROM.
There are also additional options like apps2sdext, but they get a little more advanced as it requires partitioning the sdcard.
liam.lah said:
Are you using dalvik to sd too? Im using dtapps2sd and i get between 18--23mb of free space on any given day. My sd card is too slow for dalvik to sd, and anything below 20mb and i stop getting things like email notifications.
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honestly i am lazy, so the only thing i did was use the stock cyanogen allow any app move to sd setting. and it really made a difference. i guess if i wanted to install games that are 200 mb then this wouldnt help. but this method gave like 110mb free so i was happy enough with that.
i never researched the cache2sd or darktremor's method.
also in the past i did use root explorer to move some things from system/ to data/ etc to maximize as much as possible.
There is actually a method that can force enable "Move to SD" button for all apps. Check this link for more info
http://androidforums.com/desire-tips-tricks/160560-force-apps-install-sd-without-root.html
However, please be reminded that this implementation is actually based on the Google's app2sd.
So if you move apps with Widgets to SD, they will fail to launch the next time you reboot your phone
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bassmadrigal said:
Really, the only way to get additional space is by rooting your phone. The easiest thing to do would be to get Titanium Backup and merge all the updates for system apps back into the ROM. Whenever a system app gets updated, the updated program chews up your available space unless you merge it back into the ROM.
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Finally! This works, thanks for the tip. It was soooo obvious, but I had never used Ti for this. Tap&hold and choose "Integrate update into ROM".
I just did that to Facebook, Twitter and Google Maps & got over 25 megs new space immediately.
liam.lah said:
Are you using dalvik to sd too? Im using dtapps2sd and i get between 18--23mb of free space on any given day. My sd card is too slow for dalvik to sd, and anything below 20mb and i stop getting things like email notifications.
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Any card besides pure crap is fast enough for Dalvik2SD.
And this thread is absolutely pointless. This was discussed like 100000 times. There's ONE real solution - and it's A2SD, Apps2EXT, Data2EXT, and another zillion of names for the same thing - rooting, repartitioning SD card, and moving the apps and Dalvik-cache to the EXT partition. All the other solutions are temporary, and while giving some more air to breathe, don't really solve anything for anyone that downloads enough apps.
FAQ, question 9.
Jack, I'm looking into tweaking my partition table to make use of the/cache that hardly gets used in CM.
Do you know much about it?
My biggest problem is getting solid information on the N1 partitions, since I've stumbled across conflicting info...
Any help/guidance would be appreciated!
I guess the most guidance is in the Unrevoked site, the guys who achieved S-OFF on Desire. They have a bootloader that can change the partition sizes, and there's a post on Desire forum with the explanations of booting kernel while switching the partition sizes by passing boot parameters to the kernel.
The problem with Nexus is that unlike Desire, the bootloader will still see the original partitions. So if you change the recovery and the kernel to run with different values, overriding default partitioning (which you can do - it's explained for Desire, I remember reading a thread with explanations there), the bootloader won't play the game. Boot and Recovery will have to remain in place, otherwise the phone won't boot. And if anything goes wrong and the recovery won't boot one day - you'll need to repartition the ROM from the bootloader again and install stock to get going. Lots of work.
What you can do, and what might be better/easier to do, is just to link part of your ROM there - install system apps to /cache, for example, or such. Just remember not to wipe it then
Thanks for the heads up, Jack!
Still got a lot of reading to do on this one...
I have around 168 apps and with 'round 32mbs available ...FYI I am using CyanogenMod
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
I have over 200 apps with 42+ mb free... I still wanna play with my partitions... xD
Jack_R1 said:
Any card besides pure crap is fast enough for Dalvik2SD.
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I did use dalvik 2sd for a while, I believe I'm using a 16gb kingston class2. While the phone was still certainly usable, there was a noticeable decrease in performance.

[Q] App2SD files locations

I want to know where App2SD moves the files. I have flashed my device with RUU (official) and before I did that I had lots of apps moved to SD and now am not sure if the files from those apps are still on the SD card or not and if they are, where ?
It moves your apps to a magical place where they can roam free and happy
teh5abiking said:
It moves your apps to a magical place where they can roam free and happy
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I could have guessed that myself (the name gives it away). What I meant is which directory on the filesystem and is it system directory that I can not access from the phone itself (unrooted)
If you are asking about Android's built-in App2SD functionality, check the .android_secure directory of your sdcard.
theSpam said:
If you are asking about Android's built-in App2SD functionality, check the .android_secure directory of your sdcard.
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Talking about this one
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.a0soft.gphone.app2sd&hl=en
As far as I know 2.2 doesn't have this functionality
froyo has it aswell check out .android_secure
nonione said:
froyo has it aswell check out .android_secure
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I am using the app that I mentioned so even if Froyo has it, it wont matter
The directory is empty
telerian said:
I am using the app that I mentioned so even if Froyo has it, it wont matter
The directory is empty
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Here's the thing - Froyo DOES have that functionality. If you're rooting you should try to know a bit more about your device before attempting something so drastic.
Now, that app does NOTHING that stock app2sd doesn't already do. Only if the dev allows the app to be moved can it be moved. If nothing is in the .android_secure folder then no apps are on your sdcard - plain and simple.
a2sd (a2EXT) is much different. It moves every bit of every app to an ext partition. You need Linux or a program capable of reading ext partitions if you're on Windows to see the apps and copy them over.
You could just get Titanium Backup and save the apps so you won't have to worry about any of this while switching between ROM's or whatever else you decide to attempt.
EDIT: Just to make it clear - the RUU doesn't touch your sdcard so whatever was on there before is still there, or should be unless you updated while on LSD and hitting yourself in the head with a hammer.
KCRic said:
Here's the thing - Froyo DOES have that functionality. If you're rooting you should try to know a bit more about your device before attempting something so drastic.
Now, that app does NOTHING that stock app2sd doesn't already do. Only if the dev allows the app to be moved can it be moved. If nothing is in the .android_secure folder then no apps are on your sdcard - plain and simple.
a2sd (a2EXT) is much different. It moves every bit of every app to an ext partition. You need Linux or a program capable of reading ext partitions if you're on Windows to see the apps and copy them over.
You could just get Titanium Backup and save the apps so you won't have to worry about any of this while switching between ROM's or whatever else you decide to attempt.
EDIT: Just to make it clear - the RUU doesn't touch your sdcard so whatever was on there before is still there, or should be unless you updated while on LSD and hitting yourself in the head with a hammer.
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Here is the deal, I rooted my phone and found out that I have no Arabic after downgrading my firmware to 1.34 so I got the RUU with Arabic (1.85) and updated the phone. before all that I used App2SD to move some apps to the SD card to save phone storage and after going toe Arabic RUU, the apps are not in that directory but everything else (photos, documents, maps, etc ..) is still there which means the SD was not wiped. I also used astro to backup my apps before doing the downgrade but it only backed up the ones on the phone storage and not everything.
I am a bit of Android newbie but am an expert in Linux (which is what Android is). I would love to root the phone but it is not possible to downgrade to 1.34 without losing Arabic .
Maybe I should mount the SD card on my laptop and do a find

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