[Q] Help a n00b - Wildfire General

Well this is my very first post/thread on XDA so hello all
I have been told to visit this site if I need help so, here I am.
Okay so I have just signed up for a contract which includes the HTC Wildfire. I want to update it to 2.2 (comes with 2.1 if I'm not mistaken)
I have read up as much as I can but it all really means mumble jumble to me. Anyway I have been told (by a friend) that I must first root the 2.1 and then download the 2.2 and put it in a recovery file. It this correctt?
If so how do you root a phone? Do you just download a file and run it? Also what is the best one to use because I have been reading up and there seem to be an awful lot of different ones.
Now I need to update it to 2.2, how? Is it a case of downloading a file and running it on the phone or what?
Also does any of this void the warranty on the phone?
What are the advantages of going this whole rout rather than just pushing the update button and letting the phone update it's self to 2.2? (Is it just so you can download paid apps for free or is there more?)
Thanks in advance guys
Mikrouwel

if you don't know which version you get, it's a bit early to ask question, as if its a wildfire froyo with hboot ver. 1.01 you already updated. And can't root it as yet.
If it's a wildfire eclair with hboot ver 0.8 you root it and put on a special ruu img file that doesn't change the hboot 0.8 to 1.01.
But ofcource this you've would already have known if you had searched the forums.
Sorry to say so, this is also my first post on xda, but i've been able to read and search......

Firstly, it seems your basic concepts are all muddled. There's no method which you will use which allows you to install "Paid Apps for Free". I have no idea where you heard it, but, to do that, you don't need 2.2, or any special ROM.
Secondly, there are two methods to get 2.2:
1: The official route: This is the route which you think will allow you to download paid apps for free (i.e. by simply clicking update on the OTA Notification). Although nothing of that sort happens. Anyway, back on point, if you do this, you will officially get froyo 2.2, but, most of the features of froyo will be disabled (eg: JIT), and, you will not be able to root your phone, and, in this process, install root apps, custom ROM's etc.
2: The unofficial way - In this, you will have to root your phone and put a Custom ROM. The advantages are many fold - You can get a ROM to your own liking, which is fast and free of bloat, and, customize it exactly to your liking, apart from many additional features like true Apps2SD, Live Wallpapers, Ability to completely backup, overclock and underclock your phone etc. Further, you can even get Android 2.3.2 Gingerbread, if you wish
Obviously, now, it is upto you which method you take, but, if you want to learn to root and install Custom ROM's, refer this guide, and just read it completely:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824396

Okay thanks very much
Mikrouwel

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[INFO] JF 1.51 US upgrade to Eno's OfficialCRC1 US, Awesome!

Hey all, just posting my experience upgrading from JF 1.51 US to the new OfficialCRC1 US (Fully loaded, see sig for link). Since JF has left us, its time to move on, like many of others here who worry about upgrading, wiping etc, wanted to let you know that the officialcrc1 is perfect to goto. (Cyans build is also great for those pioneers who keep up with his updates and always want the hottest items etc) Those of you who just want a clean upgrade with good performance I will recommend this one.
I upgraded perfectly! I was using Lucids script for apps2sd and the conversion to the new rom went flawless, no wipe, no force close issues nothing. My notes is as followed:
- Fixed my terminal issue where it was always in # even tho it wasnt in su mode. (Now the $ is back yeaaa)
- Emulators run ALOT smoother! (Yeaaa GBA doesnt skip as much)
- Speed has increased overall.
- Couple nice extras built in, Office and Wireless tether.
- Marketplace cache and everything else there has stayed perfectly. (Only thing that may change is various system settings)
- Compcache working perfectly and smooth, great expert setup mode to alter between that and linux-swap.
Now then notes to take care of before upgrading and notes for after:
- Turn off auto start on Swapper and/or SetCPU if you use them, as the rom handles that now.
- ODEX files, if you made odex files, this rom will remove them and on each boot, it will remove them. Lucids script is not able (As of the moment) able to recreate them. Upgrade to both the script and the ROM for handling/creating odex files are in the works for a update. So this fixed my tmobile visual voicemail.
Anyways, I am very happy with this rom build and wanted to make a post for anyone else who hesitates or worries like alot of us do when switching over rom builds. I will be posting benchmark results soon on my other thread.
So goodluck on your upgrades and thanks to JF for his work in the past. =)
Wait I thought if you went back to official than you would lose root, so how do you still have apps2sd, wi-fi tether, and compchace or linux swap since they are all root level access, are you sure that is an official rom and if so it might have something to do with the non wiping. Most likely you will lose root for sure with any ota updates. I am confuddle
Click OfficialCRC1 in my sig. =) Its what the dev calls it, Its a upgraded version of JF in a sense, Where JF kept it true to a Tmobile build, so is eno. =)
Yeah, that's not official since it is moddified, to give users the same feel as the stock roms but with su permissions and a couple other tweaks, so you might want to change it so people don't get confuddle, maybe stocklike crc1 build because this won't update with new ota s
Why change it? The dev himself on this thread has called it this. Anyone who knows the rom builds knows the name already. But Ill add Enos in it.
Great post, thanks for sharing
Hi Mysticales,
I read this post and am glad you're sharing your upgrade experiences with others. I'm also glad all went well for you when you when upgrading from a JF build to my newer CRC1-based-US ROM. There are also EU and ADP equivalents available.
I trust most users would have the same ease in upgrading.
So again, thanks for sharing your experiences, much appreciated!
To be clear, the ROM she speaks of is fully rooted and more info can be found here ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=448&order=desc
~enom~

HTC Magic -> Donut?

Hello everybody
I own a unbranded HTC Magic (which you seem to call saphire).
Now, all Magic owners that have a branded / "with google" version seem to be able to either get Donut OTA or from their respective carriers.
But I don't. HTC does not (yet?) offer 1.6 for us with unbranded phones.
Now my question is; a) CAN I install 1.6 somehow? And if yes, what would I have to do?
I'm in no way asking for a step for step solution here, but merely a pointer as to where to look for what.
Thank you so much.
Cheers.
As far as I know, T-Mobile is the only one that has pushed donut, but I'm not exactly sure. Now if you have root, you could flash a CyanogenMod Rom which is donut.
koboldx said:
Hello everybody
Now my question is; a) CAN I install 1.6 somehow? And if yes, what would I have to do?
I'm in no way asking for a step for step solution here, but merely a pointer as to where to look for what.
Cheers.
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Yes... flash a Donut based ROM.
If you have a newer phone, it likely has a "perfect" SPL which you will have to deal with before you can flash an alternate ROM.
Basic steps are:
1) Get to a engineering SPL, if necessary
2) Load a new recovery ROM
3) Make a Nandroid backup of your existing "factory" ROM in case you ever need to go back
4) Flash a Donut based ROM of your choice.
If you want a solid, fast, no problems ROM I would recommend RAv1.6.3H. If you want pretty/bells and whistles kinda ROM then look at the Sense based ROMs. Eclair (Android 2.0 ROMs will be coming shortly).
Definitely the way to go if you want the new releases as they become available instead of waiting for your carrier to decide to release them.
Thank you so much.
I now have a working 1.6 on my phone. Yay
For those that, like me, don't really see through all this stuff, there are two nice instructional step by step videos for the Magic on theunlockr.com
(Only thing I forgot was to make a nandroid backup...but luckily I won't need it as everything works perfectly.)
1. get Root: http://theunlockr.com/2009/08/29/how-to-root-the-htc-magic-in-one-click/
2. install a rom: http://theunlockr.com/2009/08/29/how-to-load-a-custom-rom-on-your-htc-magic/

Hero on Orange UK -- which custom ROM?

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I have tried searching and browsing the forums, but haven't found exactly what I need to know.
I've been waiting (very patiently) for an Android 2.1 ROM to be released for my phone. I tried to ask HTC Support when it might be available, but they just said 'check the website'.
I'm toying with the idea of rooting the phone, but am a bit undecided. I am interested in what the security risk is of rooting the phone. Doesn't this give root access to any application which I install?
Is there a custom ROM which will work on my HTC Hero, on Orange UK? If there's more than one, which would you recommend?
Currently my phone has the following versions listed:
Firmware version 1.5
Baseband version 63.18.55.06EU_6.35.06.18
Kernel version 2.6.27-8dd6eee [kernel details snipped]
Build number 2.73.61.5 146733 CL#61267 release-keys
Software version 1.0.0.A6288
Thanks,
Michael
I've been waiting (very patiently) for an Android 2.1 ROM to be released for my phone. I tried to ask HTC Support when it might be available, but they just said 'check the website'.
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Hopefully updates will start to be rolled out beginning 26th April,... HOPEFULLY!!!
I'm toying with the idea of rooting the phone, but am a bit undecided. I am interested in what the security risk is of rooting the phone. Doesn't this give root access to any application which I install?
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Indeed it does give root access to all apps you install,... and you are quite right to be worried about security issues. However these risks can be minimised. Only install apps after doing abit of reading up, making sure other users aren't experiencing major issues. Also create nandroid backups (just like creating system restore points on a PC) regularly, so if you run into problems you can roll back to when you were fine.
Is there a custom ROM which will work on my HTC Hero, on Orange UK? If there's more than one, which would you recommend?
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Any ROM for GSM HTC HEROs will work fine. I highly recomend MCR3.2 (see link in my signature). It is a rooted, tweaked Android 1.5 ROM. It is extremely fast and stable. I'd use that until a stable custom Android 2.1 ROM has been released.
One more thing,... Some Orange handsets can be awkward little buggers!!!!
Use BTDAG's guide (link in sig) to try and install the custom recovery console. This may fail as some Orange ROMS are known to be locked down. If this is the case with your phone, you will need to downgrade your ROM.
Gi'me a shout if you need any help.
Thanks for your help.
Use BTDAG's guide (link in sig) to try and install the custom recovery console. This may fail as some Orange ROMS are known to be locked down. If this is the case with your phone, you will need to downgrade your ROM.
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I think you're probably right about the locked Orange ROM -- I have read about other people having the same problem and I do have a fairly new ROM installed.
I'm sure I'll be ok, as long as the instructions are well-written!
However these [security] risks can be minimised. Only install apps after doing a bit of reading up, making sure other users aren't experiencing major issues. Also create nandroid backups (just like creating system restore points on a PC) regularly, so if you run into problems you can roll back to when you were fine.
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Ok I see. The thing that worries me mostly isn't the risk of losing data, but the risk of someone stealing identity/financial data from my phone, maybe by means of hidden malicious code in an app... Still, that could already be happening. Maybe I just need to be more careful in general.
I won't ask more questions yet... I'll go read those pages you suggested.
Thanks!
I used the flashrec method of rooting on my orange handset, can't remember what rom I was on though at the time.
Definitely root its the way forward. Once you go android 2.1 (on a good custom rom) you will never want to go back to 1.5.
Once you have root all (or most) custom roms come with SuperUser.apk which is an app that controls root permissions in apps, you can deny it, grant it, grant it once etc... you get the drift so it can be controlled.
You don't have to worry about security too much.

[Q] Some questions about rooting HTC Wildfire ?

Hi,
I have bought a brand new HTC Wildfire and am awaiting for it to be delivered. It is on Vodafone (uk).
I would like to root my phone when i get it and would appreciate your time if you could help answer some questions i have.
1) If i root my phone can i revert back if i want to? by this i mean go back to the Vodafone default, sorry don't know what they call it, basically so it's back with Vodafones custom android or whatever it is they call it.
2) I guess i will loose everything on the phone like apps etc? can i backup everything before hand?
3) I would like Android 2.2 which i believe is the latest version, by rooting the phone how would i go about then updating to Android 2.2? would i just need to check for updates from the HTC website or something?
4) I here about all these custom roms, can someone explain what these custom roms are? are they modified versions of android or something?
5) If i am able to update to Android 2.2 does that mean i can install apps on the sd card to save the memory in the phone as this would really benefit me?
6) Do i need to root the phone to install Android 2.2 on it?
Maybe i don't need to root the phone to get Android 2.2, if not does anyone have a guide on how i can do this please?
Thanks for any help and sorry if these questions have been answered before.
I did read the UnRevoked Guide which has explained things a bit and sounds the easiest way and red all the replies to.
Thanks
MR
1) Yes. You do this by finding the relevant RUU on the internet and then flashing it to your phone.
2) Rooting does not make you lose any of your apps, it just gives you more access to your phone in a way. When you install a custom ROM you can use a program like Titanium Backup to backup all your apps. Also you make a Nandroid backup of your phone that you can recover in case something goes wrong.
3) Over the air (OTA) updates of Android 2.2 will be coming before Christmas it is thought so if that is all you want you could wait. There are a few different 2.2 based ROMs available on this forum if you look through the threads. This thread lists the different ROMs with links to each thread and there are some links to guides as well. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=822181
4) The custom ROMs are community modified versions of Android that provide something different to the stock ROM. Some of them have HTC Sense, some of them are the standard Android interface. Which one you choose all depends on what you want out of your phone. See the link above for more info.
5) Yes a feature of Android 2.2 is apps2SD. This is available in the custom ROMs.
6) If you don't want to root your phone then you can wait for the OTA update of 2.2 from Vodafone. If you don't want to wait then you will have to root your phone.
I believe those answers to your questions are correct although you could be better waiting for a more experienced member to reply. I suggest you read as much as you can about rooting and installing custom ROMs so you can make sure you are making the right decision and that you know what you are doing.
You need to be aware that rooting your phone will void your warranty.
Hi,
Thanks for replying, this has really helped answering my questions
Thanks
MR

So, I purchased a MT4G. Now what?

Just purchased (again if you will, lol) a MT4G...if you read my other thread, you'd know I'm a total noob to Android, having had an iphone since the first one was able to get unlocked. So, I'm behind the times on these.
What do I do first? What are the things I need to do? Download? What are some other sites I should/need to know about? Enlighten me, please
bballcat03 said:
Just purchased (again if you will, lol) a MT4G...if you read my other thread, you'd know I'm a total noob to Android, having had an iphone since the first one was able to get unlocked. So, I'm behind the times on these.
What do I do first? What are the things I need to do? Download? What are some other sites I should/need to know about? Enlighten me, please
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First of all welcome!
well the number one site for all things android is XDA Developers so you are in the right place
if you want full customization ability, the first thing you need to do is root your phone. This will let you uninstall "uninstallable apps", and change almost every aspect of your phone. after doing this, you can install a custom recovery letting you do full backups (aka, nandroid). also rooting your phone with a custom recovery will let you flash new roms, which will let you change the complete android experience. flashing will also let you upgrade to the new 2.3 Gingerbread version of android.
Everything you need can be found here (the "everything" link i keep mentioning):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=866175
Rooting:
There are many ways to root. check the "everything" link for guides:
1. True Permroot and S-Off is the fullest root (what most people prefer, and also unlocks your phone to use with other companies sim cards.
2. Guide to permroot...the lighter version of the true permroot
3. visionary+, this is the easiest way to obtain permroot (identical to number 2 but is an app for easy accomplishment)
check out the guide in the "everything" link under the "rooting and s-off section" if you have trouble
Recovery 2.x.x.x (you will need 3.0.0.x if you want to use a gingerbread rom see further details):
To flash Clockwork Recoery (aka custom recovery), root your phone and download rom manager from the market, then click flash recovery. if this doesnt work, check the "everything" you need link for installing clockwork recovery through adb (adb is the command prompt delvelopment for android, the link on how to set that up is also in the "everything" link
Installing Recovery 3.0.0.x (for gingerbread/ CM7)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919834
Rom Explanation: (not every rom is explained here, but the major ones are)
Iced Glacier: Same basic rom you have without the junk files and it is deodexed (optimized)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=844594
MIUI: A chinese rom ported to the mytouch 4g (two versions available, Gr8Gorilla and eVilD's, but both are the same basic thing)
evilD - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874257
Gr8Gorilla - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=924610
CM6: Android without mySense or anyother manufacturer customizations, but has many user-demanded cusomizations. This is FROYO, aka android 2.2
DesireHD/Gorilla Sens port: This a froyo, Sense UI Port, this is pretty much the rom that comes on the HTC Evo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=841036
G2 Port: this is just like CM6, but without any customizations
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877620
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=903295
CM7/Gingerbread: This is CM6, but on gingerbread. (my favorite )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916930
I'm gonna follow this thread because I will be buying a MT4G soon as well... or the Vibrant...
@VibrantOwnr
THANKS! That will give me plenty to read about and go over on the train tomorrow!

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