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Anyone got their hotspot working w/o paying for tethering?

After rooting my phone I figured i would give the hotspot a shot. But when i try to browse on my ipad it brings me to the VZW self provision broadband page.
I normally use wifi tether, but i would rather be able to use the built in because its an infasture netowork vs the ad-hoc wifi tether gives me.

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Festaman said:
After rooting my phone I figured i would give the hotspot a shot. But when i try to browse on my ipad it brings me to the VZW self provision broadband page.
I normally use wifi tether, but i would rather be able to use the built in because its an infasture netowork vs the ad-hoc wifi tether gives me.
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actually your right and your wrong at the same time sadly; your right about the infrastructure network vs ad-hoc, but wrong about the 3g hotspot app vs. tethering & portable hotspot not an app.
The 3g hotspot app is a verizon product not googles in the sense your looking at.
The tethering & portable hotspot should have been activated in wireless & networks section, right between "Bluetooth setting & VPN settings" from a froyo(2.2) google standpoint but in our case its not even there.
Hope this clears up the mistakes about froyo tethering & portable hotspot and verizon 3g mobile hotspot app.

Yes it does thanks! I have a nexus one So i know what your talking about.

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if your rooted.. download "wireless tether for rooted" wam bam thank you mam.. all done..

xdaadmin said:
if your rooted.. download "wireless tether for rooted" wam bam thank you mam.. all done..
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he stated in the post that he was rooted, he just wanted to use the native tethering application.

Does this mean that if we can get a vanilla Froyo or a custom ROM compiled from source that we'll have the true Android hotspot?

xdaadmin said:
if your rooted.. download "wireless tether for rooted" wam bam thank you mam.. all done..
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That's all fine and well except that the wifi tether app runs in adhoc mode not infrastructure.
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why do not you just use pdanet from market?

There was a new experimental Wifi Tether build that was released dismorning bringing it up to Pre9. I was unable to find a change log, still adhoc?

fuzio1963 said:
why do not you just use pdanet from market?
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Pdanet creates an ad hoc network just like every other third party app.
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If its just the one computer you are logging on with use the BT method very easy and works quite well for free and even on non-rooted phone

No need to tether Wifi... Bluetooth tether works

I have a droidX, and was syncing the two devices to push a file across them when I saw bluetooth tethering... it works flawlessly. I never even heard about this during all the "screw the data plan, I'll wifi tether my tablet" hoo-ha.
Basically: sync up a phone with the tablet so they see each other.
Then go into bluetooth settings on the Xoom: settings > wireless and networks > bluetooth settings > paired devices > (YOUR PHONE)... and click the wrench icon. There's a tether option right there sitting in broad daylight... no need to even have a rooted handset I guess?
works great for me.
baller status.

Cool! That's great for those of us with OG Droids who can't use infrastructure mode.
I'm curious though. If I'm tethering via bluetooth, will I simultaneously be able to use my bluetooth headset with the XOOM, or my Droid for that matter?

ixobelle said:
I have a droidX, and was syncing the two devices to push a file across them when I saw bluetooth tethering... it works flawlessly. I never even heard about this during all the "screw the data plan, I'll wifi tether my tablet" hoo-ha.
Basically: sync up a phone with the tablet so they see each other.
Then go into bluetooth settings on the Xoom: settings > wireless and networks > bluetooth settings > paired devices > (YOUR PHONE)... and click the wrench icon. There's a tether option right there sitting in broad daylight... no need to even have a rooted handset I guess?
works great for me.
baller status.
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Good lord! This actually freaking works! I'm typing this post from my Xoom that is bluetooth tethered to my droidx. Thank you google for this crazy easter egg

Ok, I may be dumb and not really familiar with bluetooth, but can I get some help with this? I've got them paired, but how do I get them to connect?

so does this mean anyone with a smartphone data plan should not need the pLAN for xoom?
I dont see a tether option.
Same with me, paired but not connected.
Verizon fascinate.

My Dx pairs but is unable to connect :-(

I'm trying to connect to my OG droid and I am having trouble connecting as well. It pairs just fine. To the users having trouble, are you rooted with a custom rom and kernel? I'm trying to narrow this issue since others on the same mobile device are having success.

This doest work on atrix
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Do you have to be rooted (on the phone side) to be able to successfully do this? I have a Droid X and tried tethering my PSP the other night and no luck, might be a similar situation.

Droid Incredible. Which is rooted with a custom ROM.

Why not just use "wireless tether" form the market? Or does it not work on the Droid X? I was using it to tether my Xoom to my Evo running on Sprints 4G....

WiFi Tether doesn't work for some of us because Android doesn't connect through ad-hoc. The bluetooth solution sounds like our only option aside from wired tethering.

blozout said:
Why not just use "wireless tether" form the market? Or does it not work on the Droid X? I was using it to tether my Xoom to my Evo running on Sprints 4G....
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My Droid X works fine with my laptop, but not with certain devices. My Xoom is being delivered later today and I'll let you know how it goes. =P
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WiFi Tether doesn't work for some of us because Android doesn't connect through ad-hoc. The bluetooth solution sounds like our only option aside from wired tethering.
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Is Bluetooth as relatively fast as WiFi?

Not sure.
Maybe someone who is able to do both could do a speed test.

Pair but can't connect with EVO.
Anyone wanna shed some light here? Is it just the Droid X this works with?

The DroidX has trouble with data connectivity(3g) with the current release Wireless Tether app. There is a prerelease 2.07 that fixes this. I am now wifi and bluetooth tethering without data disconnects. Download the release from the wireless tether website.

rquellet said:
The DroidX has trouble with data connectivity(3g) with the current release Wireless Tether app. There is a prerelease 2.07 that fixes this. I am now wifi and bluetooth tethering without data disconnects. Download the release from the wireless tether website.
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I tether my droidx to my Xoom to use its unlimited data. Works fine, most of the time, but I do have to stop/start wifi tether on my droidx occasionally.

Update: I downloaded the experimental apk on the wireless tether's site and installed it on my Droid. My Xoom is now able to use my Droid's data via bluetooth option. JACKPOT!

Droid4All said:
Update: I downloaded the experimental apk on the wireless tether's site and installed it on my Droid. My Xoom is now able to use my Droid's data via bluetooth option. JACKPOT!
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Ha, your welcome. Enjoy!

Cool! Got a link?

Picking Up Wifi

I am trying to pick up my Droid 1's tethering but it doesn't seem to come up on my list of networks. Also when I was at a friends house, I could not pick up his wireless either. Anyone know why this would happen?

Android cannot connect to adhoc wireless networks. Your OG Droid is not capable of operating in AP mode and thus uses adhoc mode for wireless tether. As has been mentioned elsewhere you should be able to get bluetooth tethering to work.

Thanks. Don't know too much about tethering. So just change it to Bluetooth instead and it should work?

I have paired (PDA Net) my xoom to my droid x and it says they are using Bluetooth tethering. But it still shows 3G. How do I know which is actually active? Do I need to turn off 3G? How?

Rich W said:
I have paired (PDA Net) my xoom to my droid x and it says they are using Bluetooth tethering. But it still shows 3G. How do I know which is actually active? Do I need to turn off 3G? How?
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What did you do to pair it with PDA Net?

Running 4g on CM7 GB with hotspot on and it works great.
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Wi/Fi Tether From Droid X --> Xoom Wi/Fi

My Droid X is rooted and I regularly use Wireless Tether for Root app. I purposely bought the Xoom Wi/fi instead of the 3g for this wonderful advantage. I've review steps for the Xoom 3G tether, but I'm thinking this is a little different for the Wi/Fi model. When i am tethering from my Droid X, my Xoom does not recognize my network? Dont know if anyone has had some success on this yet.
Forgot to add, my xoom is unlocked and rooted as well.

Make sure you are using Infrastructure mode on the Droid X.
EDIT: I can't seem to find that option at the moment...

Well i couldnt figure it out using the Wireless Tether for Root app, but it worked flawlessly using the 3G Hotspot app by verizon, using Team Blackhat's hack.

I don't know how it is on the Droid X, but my Wi-Fi Xoom tethers to my Captivate just fine.

miui on evo 4g tether works fine. set up my first boot in the parking lot with it.

I use the stock tethering app on MT4G and GS4G and it works great. When i try wifi tether i cant see the network either. I had this same problem on my ZuneHD.

Using an Eris right now and I'm having no luck with bluetooth or normal tether. Eris is rooted, Xoom WiFi model is not.
EDIT: Just found out that the Eris uses Ad-Hoc for tethering not AP. Looks like I may be screwed.

Just a followup, I setup the Wireless Tether for Root on my Droid X and my xoom connects to it no problem.

Ive been able to connect to both TBH hotspot hack and wireless tether with no issues.

chaz03 said:
My Droid X is rooted and I regularly use Wireless Tether for Root app. I purposely bought the Xoom Wi/fi instead of the 3g for this wonderful advantage. I've review steps for the Xoom 3G tether, but I'm thinking this is a little different for the Wi/Fi model. When i am tethering from my Droid X, my Xoom does not recognize my network? Dont know if anyone has had some success on this yet.
Forgot to add, my xoom is unlocked and rooted as well.
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Download Fission ROM Manager, install Fission ROM for DX, install tether patch and 3G Hotspot app. Tethering to Xoom should work...
Tether patch will modify NVRAM on DX and the 3G Hotspot is just a modified Verizon Hotspot app. Get all the tethering you want without having a tethering package

Fwiw : my Dinc running CM7 teathers fine with my Wifi Xoom just using the native teather feature. No downloads or setup required.
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My N1 tethers to my Xoom just peachy, no root or anything needed.

It appears that AdHoc mode on Droid X and Samsung Epic work fine with the Xoom? Maybe im nuts, but I thought Android wouldn't connect to ad hoc....im probably nuts.

I'm having no luck tethering my recently purchased wifi xoom. I am using a mytouch 3g with all variants of wireless tether.... i know my tether works because my rooted nook with CM7 can see it and LOGIN with no problems. I added the wpa variant that helped my nook see ad hoc wireless.
Please if someone has a solution i will be externally grateful.

Yeah my xoom wasn't reading my phones tether since its adhoc(Using WirelessTether from market), on their website they have a new thing called "wifi tether" and it works perfectly.
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list
"WiFi Tether for Root Users 3.0-pre12 *** EXPERIMENTAL ***"
Then in setup method change it from adhoc to softap, so far so good..
phone: epic 4g (galaxy s)

p2flol said:
Yeah my xoom wasn't reading my phones tether since its adhoc(Using WirelessTether from market), on their website they have a new thing called "wifi tether" and it works perfectly.
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list
"WiFi Tether for Root Users 3.0-pre12 *** EXPERIMENTAL ***"
Then in setup method change it from adhoc to softap, so far so good..
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Thanks but unfortunately my phone (mytouch magic) doesn't give me that option. I tried nexus one device and selected softap, but still no good.
Looks like I need to somehow tweak my wifi xoom to recognize ad hoc wireless router. I have just 6 months till my phone contract ends, but that's too long to wait.... if this doesn't work i may have to return my xoom
Anyone know how to unlock the ad hoc wireless on the zoom?

Chickenbutt20 said:
Using an Eris right now and I'm having no luck with bluetooth or normal tether. Eris is rooted, Xoom WiFi model is not.
EDIT: Just found out that the Eris uses Ad-Hoc for tethering not AP. Looks like I may be screwed.
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Has ANYONE found out ANYTHING about tethering w/ the ERIS? I can connect via bluetooth BUT then my Eris reboots and I lose the connection.
This is the only issue that probably will have me returning if I can't connect to internet on my phone when I'm away from wifi.

fabian29906 said:
Has ANYONE found out ANYTHING about tethering w/ the ERIS? I can connect via bluetooth BUT then my Eris reboots and I lose the connection.
This is the only issue that probably will have me returning if I can't connect to internet on my phone when I'm away from wifi.
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Sounds like we need to tweak the wpa file in system>app to make it accept ad hoc.

I have Samsung Captivate with mobile AP enabled. However i am not able to get good tethering speed on my xoom. I ran a speedtest on the captivate which has HSUPA enabled and i get 1.5MB download speed and 2MB upload but my xoom barely gets 100KB download. Any ideas?

purav17 said:
I have Samsung Captivate with mobile AP enabled. However i am not able to get good tethering speed on my xoom. I ran a speedtest on the captivate which has HSUPA enabled and i get 1.5MB download speed and 2MB upload but my xoom barely gets 100KB download. Any ideas?
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That's interesting, i tested HTC DHD stock hotspot app yesterday with my laptop (i don't have a Xoom yet). If i run a speed test on my phone, i get about 4,5mbit download speed but if i do a speed test on my laptop i only get about 2mbit. Why is that?

[Q] No DUN no ADHOC rant.....Honeycomb 3.1?

So all of our phones with Wifi hotspot features create an ADHOC connection which Honeycomb does not support. Same goes with Bluetooth, no DUN. Google what the hell? Ya ya,carriers this and carriers that but what about people paying for hotspot features on the phone. I have customers that I need to setup to pair with the TF but it seems nothing will work without rooting and that can be phone specific. So the TF is great as long as you are close to a WIFI connection is supports?
If I'm missing something someone please fill me in.
~DC

think it depends on phone my desire HD works fine

Welcome to Android.
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combat goofwing said:
think it depends on phone my desire HD works fine
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Are you rooted?
Are you simply pairing or using another app on your phone?
Can you run through your connection steps?
Thanks,
~DC

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Welcome to Android.
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But why would they do this knowing what the phones support?
~DC

I am using the hotspot feature on my Evo, and I've been tethering to it at work since the day I got my Transformer. I'm not doing anything special, just turning on the hotspot and letting the TF connect. Now, my Evo is rooted with a ROM that "unlocks" the hotspot functionality so I'm not paying extra, and I'm not using the Wireless Tether app, but it's the same concept.

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I am using the hotspot feature on my Evo, and I've been tethering to it at work since the day I got my Transformer. I'm not doing anything special, just turning on the hotspot and letting the TF connect. Now, my Evo is rooted with a ROM that "unlocks" the hotspot functionality so I'm not paying extra, and I'm not using the Wireless Tether app, but it's the same concept.
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The hotspot feature on your ROM is supporting a true wifi connection and not peer to peer adhoc. I can't always root customers phones.
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I may be misunderstanding how it works, but this isn't a wireless tether baked into the ROM, it's the built-in Sprint hotspot feature that I'm using, just unlocked so I don't have to pay extra. If someone was paying for the hotspot feature on Sprint, they wouldn't need root, but maybe this is only the case with Sprint's implementation.

i was able to do both wifi and bluetooth tethering. took me a while to figure out, (since i've never done it before, less due to the difficulty of doing it)
assuming the phone supports Bluetooth tethering, it should always work.

I have a DroidX and I can tether using the built in stock Hotspot feature or with Bluetooth. However, I can't tether using an ad hoc connection because I get an error stating that the device doesn't support ad hoc connections...
So, it is definitely device specific and it will be something the carriers remove as many report being able to do so with root (my device is rooted and I can't connect via ad hoc - although, I haven't d/l or tried out the pdaNet app).
I will also add that the bluetooth tethering has worked MUCH better than the wifi - easier/faster to connect, runs pretty fast, and my phone doesn't overheat as much....

Works fine with my evo. The Evo has proper infrastructure wifi hotspot.
Maybe the users need to update their phones?

I went into a store to try a tf and there was no internet so I turned on my WiFi hotspot on my sgsII and it worked perfectly fine, not sure if that's the same as you're asking but that works.

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Works fine with my evo. The Evo has proper infrastructure wifi hotspot.
Maybe the users need to update their phones?
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Are you rooted?
~DC

Any HTC thunderbolt users reading this that have tried hotspot?
~DC

a lot of clarification
Hi all,
I need your help, understanding ... well everything about wifi/TF/WM6.5/adhoc and whatever the other connection is?
I don't think of myself as a noob, but to be honest I'm lost with the wifi on the TF. So here it goes: I have TF and HD2. Under WM6.5 I can't get the TF to see the shared internet through the "wifi router" application on the phone. But then I run a custom Desire HD ROM and this one (can't remember the application) shares and gives access to the TF?!?!
First off, which is which? Which is adhoc and which is infrastructure? And what is the difference (sorry i did look on the internet, but that got me confused even more because I could not see any difference). Are you saying that a standard (not rooted Android) will have the same problem? I was thinking of switching to an android phone so that I can get the easy sharing option, but if I have to root a brand new phone????
Any help will be appreciated,
rio

Easy way to tether off a rooted phone.
Install one of the older versions of wireless tether that supports bluetooth.
Turn on the bluetooth DUN on wireless tether.
Hit ok when it asks to turn on Bluetooth and make discoverable.
On the transformer go to settings-wireless-bluetooth
Scan for your device and pair.
Once paired you should see a little wrench next to your device, click on it
Under Profiles, it should show tethering with a checkbox. Click this and in a few seconds Wireless tether should buzz its connected and off you go.
I've been able to tether my transformer like this since out of the box.
Edit - BTW I've tried this with PDAnet and other non rooted tehtering programs, and I couldn't get it to work with those options. Just FYI

the difference between ad-hoc and infrastructure is the way devices communicate.
infrastructure is kinda like the way we send messages via the post office. we send it to a central place, then it figures out how to deliver the message. this is how true routers operate
ad-hoc is peer-to-peer. imagine passing notes back in elementary school.
( Do you like me [yes] [no] )
some phones comes with a tethering app without having to root, but this typically requires you to pay extra fee to your carrier ($30 for sprint)
if you don't want to pay that, then you have to root your phone to either get a rom that already supports infrastructure mode, or download an app that does. [ ie Wifi Tether ]

people googling "honeycomb dun" would be incredibly misinformed by this thread.

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people googling "honeycomb dun" would be incredibly misinformed by this thread.
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You are right. I put Honeycomb 3.1 in the title but forgot to mention in the OP if anyone heard that 3.1 would have support for DUN or Ad Hoc.
Sorry for any confusion I might have caused
~DC

Edit: I posted misinformation.