Database Users

first impressions of the x

what do you think of the x
Sent from my Incredible using XDA App

i really like mine.its ok that the x cant be rooted and the only people that i hear say its to big is girls.but i allways thought they liked big things?

Romflash,rr, whoever ur back! Good to see u. I switched from the dinc to the x. Like the x much better, love the feel, the ui overall is smoother when on the homeacreen on the dinc. But the x runs games like need for speed better than my ps3 lol. Now i will actually consider playing games on my android. DInc is gone and i wont look back. Goodluck if u decide to change.
Sent from my DROIDX using XDA App

Good, but with notable faults:
+ Great screen
+ Great keyboards
+ iphone-style text selection
~ Ok speed
~ Ok battery
- Poor speaker (too quiet)
- No zoom on mobile web pages (esp Goole)

I'm pretty sure the X has zoom on the browser. However the moblie Google doesn't zoom on any device. Test it on another page.

ksizzle9 said:
Romflash,rr, whoever ur back! Good to see u. I switched from the dinc to the x. Like the x much better, love the feel, the ui overall is smoother when on the homeacreen on the dinc. But the x runs games like need for speed better than my ps3 lol. Now i will actually consider playing games on my android. DInc is gone and i wont look back. Goodluck if u decide to change.
Sent from my DROIDX using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i probably wont change since i cant return the phone, and i dont want to get slammed with that early termination crap.
anyhow, the x looks promising, but is not for me. its too big, amd the ui is a bit clunky, but i am still concidering the x regardless.
Sent from my Incredible using XDA App

I upgraded from an htc Fuse from at&t and i'm loving it. The switch from winmo to android has been exciting. The phone itself is amazing. I'm loving the speed. I thought the switch to a full touch keyboard would be hard, but i'm not missing the physical keyboard at all.
A lot of people have been complaining about motoblur, but it doesn't seem bad. That's probably just coming from my inexperience with android though.
Sent from my DROIDX using XDA App

I came from incredible, while as i stated before the ui is slower and clunkier than incredible the spped of opening apps and eeverything else is way better. My quadrant benchmarks are faster than my DInc with froyo installed and a custom overclocked kernel. The sense ui is the most polished custom ui out there to say the least. This phone has FAR better graphics and multimedia abilities. Given a little time and the addition of froyo this will b one of the best phones u can buy for some time. The TI OMAP is a superior proccssor in almost every way. Also this phone has guerrilla glass. For those who don't know that is some tough ****. I think the only lagging that happens is the homescreen scrolling. After 3 days with the x its a keeper to me. Also the battery life is twice that of my incredible.
Sent from my DROIDX using XDA App

See this thread for a nice comparison between Droid 1 and Droid X

BmBoof said:
I'm pretty sure the X has zoom on the browser. However the moblie Google doesn't zoom on any device. Test it on another page.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
EVO zoomed in on "mobile" pages. I assume other HTC phones do too.
I realize it zooms on non-mobile pages, but of course mobile pages are the ones your going to get on a (mobile) phone. :-/
BTW, even on non-mobile pages, the zooming in uneven, as the follow-on double-tap to re-flow text will often not work (depends on other formating on the page). Again EVO (HTC) was better at this. Not saying there aren't DX advantages too, but this is a major drawback to the DX browser.

ksizzle9 said:
I came from incredible, while as i stated before the ui is slower and clunkier than incredible the spped of opening apps and eeverything else is way better.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'll second the quick open experience. Very nice. Also (may be related), non of the 3-5 second hanging on app installs I've seen on other Android phones.

ViBrant Lag/Slowness

So to make my Question short
id like to know to know how well the phone performs after having used for at least 24 hours. I hear People complain about it lagging and being slow when switching homescreens specially if you add TouchWiz3 Widgets????
Im thinking of ordering one but want to hear from you guys. I Really dont support Samsung too much because well, THEY dont support their customers either. They say one thing with updates and promises but at the end they never fullfill their words. Any ideas???

If theres samsung widgets on TW then yes it lags.. I use tw without samsungs widgets and dont get any slowness going on.
I personaly havent seen any slowness yet. But read others do. Maybe im lucky..

temperbad said:
If theres samsung widgets on TW then yes it lags.. I use tw without samsungs widgets and dont get any slowness going on.
I personaly havent seen any slowness yet. But read others do. Maybe im lucky..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That Truly Sucks. Is it still possible too use stock 2.1 Launcher and not TW like with most android phone?

Yeah you can use Launcher PRO instead.

minogue said:
That Truly Sucks. Is it still possible too use stock 2.1 Launcher and not TW like with most android phone?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yea just use adw launcher or launcher pro. Fast as can be with either of those. But im digging the TW for now without the widgets...

Awesome. Thanks for the replies. i guess ill be picking one up later around 6pm at T-Mobile Corp. Store.
Only Thing i hate is after playing with nexus one, mytouch slide, HD2, i will be missing the Led Flash which i still wonder why they would not add such feauture.
Kinda makes me think its because they want to launch a new phone not too far away and add Flash so people want to upgrade their current phones to that:/

I am using Samsung Widgets in 3 of 5 my screens with no Lag; I find it curious anyone is having lag unless you have like 20 homescreens packed with widgets. The hummingbird processor in this beast has currently edged out all of the top of the line android phones for CPU speed and it also has the fastest GPU (PowerVR SGX540) as well, offering performance of almost 2x compared to the Evo and Nexus. Lag should not be a happening thing

I have had mine since Friday, used it with TW and samsung widgets without issue, but I like the customization from adw so I have been using that for the last couple days. So far I have no complaints about speed, just hoping the gps and compass issues get fixed soon.

I have 3 widgets, one of them being Buddies now and get very little lag. Only the pause when coming back to the home screen (not always happening)

New owner I have one widget no lag at all.
Sent from my Droid using XDA App

No lag here, I was using touchwiz but I prefer the more stock look of adw launcher...
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

liquidice007 said:
I am using Samsung Widgets in 3 of 5 my screens with no Lag; I find it curious anyone is having lag unless you have like 20 homescreens packed with widgets. The hummingbird processor in this beast has currently edged out all of the top of the line android phones for CPU speed and it also has the fastest GPU (PowerVR SGX540) as well, offering performance of almost 2x compared to the Evo and Nexus. Lag should not be a happening thing
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I wish I could say the same. I have one widget, feeds and updates, and when it tries to refresh, it lags like hell. If I add the buddies now widget on another screen, just those 2 tw widgets are enough to make this feel like my original mytouch. Very disappointed in the lag.

Babyface1249 said:
I wish I could say the same. I have one widget, feeds and updates, and when it tries to refresh, it lags like hell. If I add the buddies now widget on another screen, just those 2 tw widgets are enough to make this feel like my original mytouch. Very disappointed in the lag.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Could you describe the lag in more detail? How many screens do you have? What wallpaper are you using? Are those the only 2 widgets you are using? Is the lag a skipping or is the phone not responsive at all? Is it better after a reboot?

iceman1251 said:
No lag here, I was using touchwiz but I prefer the more stock look of adw launcher...
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I always love ADW because of the options and ESPECIALLY the "Drop to Uninstall" option.
but ADW would be just another program running, using more RAM. less use the better.

Yeah from what I can tell the TWLauncher is pretty light on the battery.

i just got rid of the 7 screens and am just using 1. i am gonna see if this helps with the overall performance of the phone. (from the homescreen> menu (haptic button)>edit> then delete the homescreens to your heart's content . You can always put them back by using the same method

neema said:
Could you describe the lag in more detail? How many screens do you have? What wallpaper are you using? Are those the only 2 widgets you are using? Is the lag a skipping or is the phone not responsive at all? Is it better after a reboot?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I currently have five screens, one has Weather Widget and battery widget, another has the feeds and updates widget, then 2 widgets for stocks (that only update when i tell them to) and youtube and google search widgets. No live wallpaper either. When adding more TW widgets, swiping screens is slower than my old mytouch.

neema said:
Could you describe the lag in more detail? How many screens do you have? What wallpaper are you using? Are those the only 2 widgets you are using? Is the lag a skipping or is the phone not responsive at all? Is it better after a reboot?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was running fine for a couple of days and then I started noticing the lag. Selecting the Settings menu would take a couple of seconds. Camera would take a while. I have also had 3 or 4 freezes and had to reboot my phone. Hardly ever happened on the G1 in two years. Would get a black screen for 3-4 seconds in between operations. No spinner. Initially kept thinking the phone was going to sleep.
I have 5 screens with the buddies widget, 2 picture frames, the double daily time widget and Google Search. Shouldn't be causing this hardware to so much as break sweat. I tried removing all widgets. But it didn't help.
What did help was rooting the phone and running the script to move the apps to NAND. But of course there's a limitation on the number of apps. So far, after doing this, it's much better. I'll see if this holds.
The lags have ruined an otherwise outstanding experience on this phone. I'm very disappointed with this performance on this hardware.
What's interesting here is that it's working well for some of you. Which makes it inexplicable why moving the apps to NAND should make such a difference. If this were a problem with the cache, it should have been a problem on every phone. Don't understand this.
The good news is that almost all of the problems I have with the phone should be software fixable.
When it works well, it truly is an amazing device.

I'm very interested in doing the lag fix but I'm intimidated by the process. Is it worth trying to learn ADB? Or should I wait until September for the 2.2 release?
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

I have major lag only when using my corporate email (Exchange active sync). just opening, composing or deleting takes about 5 to 8 sec. Has anyone else experienced this?

Epic Running Htc Sense? Need Help Asap

I have to choose either epic or evo tomorrow, and would like the epic cause of the screen quality and the video quality.. but the evo has sense and i simply cant live without it..my question is would there anytime soon be a sense port to the epic? cause i would love to have the best of both worlds.. i dont want no alternative widgets ect..i want sense on that amazin amoled screen...

If I can remember there was a team of people trying to port it, but haven't heard from then in awhile
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App

It's being worked on right now. by 2 devs, 2 good devs, who will most likely have it done a few days after the official froyo release.

Sense? Are you serious? Just go get an EVO cause if your buying an Epic to put Sense on it you could be waiting forever. And also the Epic is to nice a phone to ruin it with Sense.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App

get the EVO, we don't need another "krazie" in here posting in the wrong section.
OP reported as belonging in the general section.

If you want Sense, just get an Evo. No port will function 100% like official Sense from HTC. Personally, I hate all these customized launchers from manufacturers (Sense, Touchwiz, etc.) as they're slow and laggy, and I just use LauncherPro (ADW is great as well).

bsutton said:
It's being worked on right now. by 2 devs, 2 good devs, who will most likely have it done a few days after the official froyo release.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
LOL..yea ok. I know its being worked on, but its far from being even close

Fck sense I had it on mts3gs and its nothing special,how about porting Xperia X10 Rachel or Acer Breeze ui they look way better and offer way more functionality,i even like our Epic's Twiz better than sence.

Yeahh i was just trying to get the thread over with. i hate stupid questoins

I thought I would miss sense when coming from the touch pro 2 to the epic. Boy was I wrong.. sense is so slow in comparison to the eic running launcher pro or adw.. sense has sme cool features but nothing that you can't download or add with launcher pro.. but if you really want 100% sense go with the evo.. I'm sure either way you won't be dissapointed
Sent from my SPH-D700 using Tapatalk

I personaly like sense and hate touchwiz however owning both an evo (wife) and epic (myself) I can tell you performance/battery/screen...etc wise the epic is a better phone. I miss sense as well but nothing you can't be without. Get the epic!

thanks to everybody who gave me positive feedback. to all the rude people making smart comments, i would like to cuss you guys out but im going to be an adult about the situation. with that being said, Im going to get the evo..simply because I believe the camera will be modded by developers..i have seen the youtube videos and all and have been blown away by the epics quality as far as audio and video camera..but i simply cant live without sense..the calender and peep widget and email widget have me in love

benbenondatrack said:
thanks to everybody who gave me positive feedback. to all the rude people making smart comments, i would like to cuss you guys out but im going to be an adult about the situation. with that being said, Im going to get the evo..simply because I believe the camera will be modded by developers..i have seen the youtube videos and all and have been blown away by the epics quality as far as audio and video camera..but i simply cant live without sense..the calender and peep widget and email widget have me in love
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I love sense. Its amazing..but launcher pro pretty much has me covered with its sense like widgets..if you stay on a few minutes ill post scree shots

lviv73 said:
Fck sense I had it on mts3gs and its nothing special,how about porting Xperia X10 Rachel or Acer Breeze ui they look way better and offer way more functionality,i even like our Epic's Twiz better than sence.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've agreed with him before and I agree once again
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App

lviv73 said:
Fck sense I had it on mts3gs and its nothing special,how about porting Xperia X10 Rachel or Acer Breeze ui they look way better and offer way more functionality,i even like our Epic's Twiz better than sence.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What you like isn't really relevant to the OP.

Check out this thread and the video. Had the guy fooled into thinking it's SenseUI but it's actually just a theme and widgets. Take a quick look at it, you might just find it suites your taste.

+1 for adw
Sense is aright, but really....on the epic...
I hate TW myself. So went with adw and never looked back! My roomie has adw on his evo and would never go back to sense.
Sent from my Rock Awesome Samsung Epic using XDA App

+1 to the Launcherpro comment. The widgets are just as nice, if not better because of the better speed.
I don't believe there is a email widget though... the Samsung email application is simple enough and handles emails like a dream though, the exchange calendars sync right up to, AND the launcherpro widget can pull in everything even from the Samsung calendar app. It's fairly nice.
It's really all about personal preference, I'd pick based on the pros and cons of each that aren't software related, because even if the official sense never makes it to the epic there are alternatives that will do the same thing, look just as good, and be faster and easier on the battery. At the heart of Android lies Linux.. and like anything Linux you can customize to your hearts content.
The Epic trounces the Evo in terms of performance, the evo has a bigger screen but the epics is higher quality, battery life is better on the epic, the evo gets faster updates but the epic in theory might get them longer with the superior hardware, the epic has a pretty good hardware keyboard the evo has an awesome touch screen keyboard (which can be installed on the epic), epic 3D performance is outstanding while the Evo's is so-so but not bad, the evo's build quality seems better and the epic feels less solid due to its keyboard slider (you will have that tiny tiny amount of play in the screen even closed like most slider phones have). List goes on and on. You can't go wrong with either really.

Just watched that video of "pseudo sense" hilarious.....
you can get anything you want, to look like anything you want for android. You just gotta be persistent. If you like the Hardware of the Epic, go with the epic. You might get tired of Sense.
I have the Epic and the Evo.. Rocked the Evo for a week and a half and went back to the Epic. Just better quality screen and got bored of Sense.

I been using Go Launcher on the epic and I like it better than Launcher Pro may wanna try it out its free and uses less memory.

X10 smoothness

Ive always really liked my x10 and coming from a bb storm is was a huge improvement. The one thing thats always driven me nuts about the phones is that all the scrolling, weather it be in menus or the home screen has always been choppy compared to say the iphone. I recently had the chance to use a galaxy s and it too way farr smoother than my x10. Is there anything that can be done to improve this?

root it, delete facerecognition.apk and enable jit
that was the biggest improvement i made

yea my phone is rooted, im pretty sure I have enabled JIT I'm running about 17.5 MFLOPS on Linpack. Ill have to see if facerecognition is still there. Is it constantly running in the background or something?

Are you running the default launcher? If so launcher pro and adw would be a nice choice. As compared to the iphone, no android device will be as smooth until android implement hw acceleration to the UI.

yea I have launcher pro plus, it was a huge improvement ill admit, I was just thrown off at how smooth the galaxy s is. Guess ill just have to live with it

Yea I think he's asking why is the galaxy s is like silky smooth in terms of scrolling and such but not the x10. Both are android phones with 1ghz processor.
I think the reason why is that the galaxy s has a better GPU chip? or a dedicated one? That's what I heard so maybe that's why? Correct me if i'm wrong.

Possibly, but also some widgets can slow it down. For instance i just installed animated contact widget and suddenly my scrolling lags after adding three contacts. I removed it and voila, adw ex is running like crazy again...
Sent from my x32 using the licking write method....man I am thirsty now!

Same here. Using adw ex now, have the scrollable calendar and folder organiser with no effect, but when facebook or contact widgets are added it goes into bullet time... think there's cache issues with the X10. Then again, updated on Xmas eve and lost root.
Sent from my X10i using XDA App

you can't solve the smoothness problem on the x10 with software :/ the main problem with this phone is acually the screen.. it's not very responsive and it takes a moment to register your finger. this makes scrolling and everything else laggy compared to other phones with the same hardware
for instance the game fruit ninja is almost unplayable bacause of this.

dforesi said:
Ive always really liked my x10 and coming from a bb storm is was a huge improvement. The one thing thats always driven me nuts about the phones is that all the scrolling, weather it be in menus or the home screen has always been choppy compared to say the iphone. I recently had the chance to use a galaxy s and it too way farr smoother than my x10. Is there anything that can be done to improve this?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think you are describing the 30 frames per second limit that SE has implemented on the screen.
Go to the website below and look at the 30 FPS and then 60 FPS. Is this the problem you are describing?
http://www.boallen.com/fps-compare.html

Hey There,
I´ve added this command line: windowsmgr.max_events_per_sec=26 to my build.prop and it feels smother whenever you´re going around the homescreen or appdrawer.
You should give it a try....
Ps. You can add that line at the bottom of your build.prop using Root Explorer.
Jim

I got root explorer, i found build.prop in /system/. How do I edit it?
There's no edit option?

you are using launcher pro.
go into the launcher pro settings and there you can change the scrolling speed and smoothness.
turn off the elastic effect and speed up drawer and scrolling speeds.
should be much smoother now.

dforesi said:
Ive always really liked my x10 and coming from a bb storm is was a huge improvement. The one thing thats always driven me nuts about the phones is that all the scrolling, weather it be in menus or the home screen has always been choppy compared to say the iphone. I recently had the chance to use a galaxy s and it too way farr smoother than my x10. Is there anything that can be done to improve this?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hmmm...weird because I thought the X10 was much smoother than the Galaxy S...which is why I sold the Galaxy and got back my beloved X10. I didn't like the Galaxy when compared to the X10. Im rooted, deleted timescape, face recognition, etc etc...huge improvements.

I think my X10 is pretty smooth. Compared to my friend's Galaxy S I think its even better. Although mine is rooted and cleared and his is not.

Tri3Dent said:
I got root explorer, i found build.prop in /system/. How do I edit it?
There's no edit option?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
At the top of Root Explorer is an option select the one that says r/w (read/write) and then long press on build.prop and at the end of the pop-up menu choose open in text editor... that way you can add the command line...
I hope this helps.
Jim
Sent from my X10i

Thanks.. Just did it. In order to make it take effect, just restart the phone?
Or what does this code do anyway?

Tri3Dent said:
Thanks.. Just did it. In order to make it take effect, just restart the phone?
Or what does this code do anyway?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Did you see or feel an effect? For me there is no difference ...

I am almost 100% sure the problem is the 32fps cap SE placed on this phone. Total and utter garbage! Until we are able to modify the X10's kernel, there will be no improvement to the smoothness you are referring to.
And to the guys who's used both the galaxy S and X10 and think the X10 is smoother, pass me some of that stuff you're smoking will ya?

ProBoner said:
I am almost 100% sure the problem is the 32fps cap SE placed on this phone. Total and utter garbage! Until we are able to modify the X10's kernel, there will be no improvement to the smoothness you are referring to.
And to the guys who's used both the galaxy S and X10 and think the X10 is smoother, pass me some of that stuff you're smoking will ya?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Agree, in quadrants 700 vs. 1850. Neomark 27 fps vs. 56 fps.
X10 is so much underperforming at the moment, that I could cry. It's so much similar to the Nexus One. Blame SE.

Z2 graphics performance

Hey all, I was in John Lewis playing with the new Z2. I noticed that the live wallpapers were really slow and the transition between pages seemed a low frame rate. No way near as fluid as on the Galaxy Notes. I was a bit surprised, surely as the latest and greatest device it can eat any live wallpaper for breakfast?
I was planning on buying the Z2 LTE but I was a little put off by what I saw. I closed down all the running apps on the device but it was still not smooth. I put on the stock water drop live wallpaper and it ran even more stuttery than on my Nexus 7 (1st gen)!! Surely that can't be right.
I expect my Dualboot Games live wallpapers to run buttery smooth on my next tablet!
Was that just a freak occurrence or is that just how it is? Hopefully one of you guys can put my mind at rest or I will pass on this one.

Forget this stupid stock launcher. Totally irrelevant.
I don't understand how people judge a device by preinstalled crap.
Install another launcher (Nova, whatever), and there you go.
Live wallpapers are battery eating, superfluous s**t anyway.

hasenbein1966 said:
Forget this stupid stock launcher. Totally irrelevant.
I don't understand how people judge a device by preinstalled crap.
Install another launcher (Nova, whatever), and there you go.
Live wallpapers are battery eating, superfluous s**t anyway.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What is there to understand? I had to judge it on that cos it was a display model in the shop. I cant go customising it lol. Thats why Im on here asking the question from people that own one.
Was it the stock Sony launcher at fault? Is the stock launcher really that bad or is the device just like that regardless? For a premium device I would expect the stock launcher to perform at a decent level at least.
As for live wallpapers being superfluous s**t, that's irrelevant. Its been a feature of the OS for a long time now and I was surprised that the device struggled so badly with it. Like I say with seemingly less performance than my Nexus 7.
I was ready to buy one but from what I saw in the shop it made me nervous to drop £500 on it. So Z2 Tablet owners how is the device performing with 3rd party launchers? Im really expecting it to be silky smooth even with a live wallpaper running (obviously I understand some LWP's are badly made and slow no matter what device).
Any comments appreciated!

tumpin said:
What is there to understand? I had to judge it on that cos it was a display model in the shop. I cant go customising it lol. Thats why Im on here asking the question from people that own one.
Was it the stock Sony launcher at fault? Is the stock launcher really that bad or is the device just like that regardless? For a premium device I would expect the stock launcher to perform at a decent level at least.
As for live wallpapers being superfluous s**t, that's irrelevant. Its been a feature of the OS for a long time now and I was surprised that the device struggled so badly with it. Like I say with seemingly less performance than my Nexus 7.
I was ready to buy one but from what I saw in the shop it made me nervous to drop £500 on it. So Z2 Tablet owners how is the device performing with 3rd party launchers? Im really expecting it to be silky smooth even with a live wallpaper running (obviously I understand some LWP's are badly made and slow no matter what device).
Any comments appreciated!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Are you complaining about the launcher or the wallpaper? If it's the launcher, I barely see any lag at all. For the wallpaper it will depend on the wallpaper, the tablet is very powerful with a decent graphics chip, but if whichever wallpaper you are using is badly coded it won't make a difference.

When the tablet in the shop was fresh out of the box, it's no wonder that it was lagging. For instance, the media scanner will run and other first-time apps and background services will be started. An Android device is always only at it's real snappiness a few hours after first start.

hasenbein1966 said:
When the tablet in the shop was fresh out of the box, it's no wonder that it was lagging. For instance, the media scanner will run and other first-time apps and background services will be started. An Android device is always only at it's real snappiness a few hours after first start.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It wasn't new out the box, it was on the display. They had rows of demo units on display. I closed down all the apps too. There was a lot open from people playing around with it.

jai23 said:
Are you complaining about the launcher or the wallpaper? If it's the launcher, I barely see any lag at all. For the wallpaper it will depend on the wallpaper, the tablet is very powerful with a decent graphics chip, but if whichever wallpaper you are using is badly coded it won't make a difference.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It was more the wallpaper. I tried the default Android water ripple one and it was really slow, slower than on my Nexus7. Also the standard Sony wallpaper. Swiping through the screens it just wasn't as fluid as the Galaxy Note also on display. Must say it shocked me a bit.
Do you own one? Im after gauging what its like for people that actually own one. Because I know what I saw on display but I only had a short time with the device. I am asking what its like for you guys that own one. Is it smooth and fluid with 3rd party launchers? Do live wallpapers slow it down a lot? I know there are badly made LWPs but Im talking about good wallpapers, does it handle them ok?
I had been waiting for the Z2 to come out but after playing with it Im having second thoughts. I want my next tablet to be hassle free. I dont even want to be flashing roms, Im fed up with that, I want it to be slick straight out the box.
Im considering one of the Tab Pro's or even a Win 8 Pro tablet. I played with a Sony Tap 11, I know its a different device altogether but that thing impressed me! Its so light considering its a full i5 PC.

Slick straight out of the box? Seriously, take an iPad or a Windows machine.

tumpin said:
It was more the wallpaper. I tried the default Android water ripple one and it was really slow, slower than on my Nexus7. Also the standard Sony wallpaper. Swiping through the screens it just wasn't as fluid as the Galaxy Note also on display. Must say it shocked me a bit.
Do you own one? Im after gauging what its like for people that actually own one. Because I know what I saw on display but I only had a short time with the device. I am asking what its like for you guys that own one. Is it smooth and fluid with 3rd party launchers? Do live wallpapers slow it down a lot? I know there are badly made LWPs but Im talking about good wallpapers, does it handle them ok?
I had been waiting for the Z2 to come out but after playing with it Im having second thoughts. I want my next tablet to be hassle free. I dont even want to be flashing roms, Im fed up with that, I want it to be slick straight out the box.
Im considering one of the Tab Pro's or even a Win 8 Pro tablet. I played with a Sony Tap 11, I know its a different device altogether but that thing impressed me! Its so light considering its a full i5 PC.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes I own one, I've had no problems with lag of any sort.

Thanks Jai23, I will take that on board.
Hasenbein that's funny but sadly true!
I am going to have a think about it and try get another demo of the Z2. What I would really like is the latest Asus Transformer that comes with Tegra 4 graphics. That's the kind of graphics grunt I know I would like but they don't do an LTE version for some reason.

The Adreno 330 in the Tablet Z2 has at least (!) as much "graphics grunt" as the Tegra 4! If you notice lag, it's not because of the "graphics grunt"!
---------- Post added at 07:54 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:59 AM ----------
Gizmodo Review - they say the same: Simply forget stock launcher crap, install another, be happy with a really great tablet!
http://gizmodo.com/sony-xperia-z2-tablet-review-hardware-triumph-softwar-1565712780

Ok guys, based on your replies I will go give the Z2 another demo. Especially now I've learnt that the Tap 11 isn't 4G.
My next tablet absolutely must have 4G. Its surprising there isn't much choice when it comes to 4G on tablets. All top end phones have it but not tablets.

tumpin said:
Hey all, I was in John Lewis playing with the new Z2. I noticed that the live wallpapers were really slow and the transition between pages seemed a low frame rate. No way near as fluid as on the Galaxy Notes. I was a bit surprised, surely as the latest and greatest device it can eat any live wallpaper for breakfast?
I was planning on buying the Z2 LTE but I was a little put off by what I saw. I closed down all the running apps on the device but it was still not smooth. I put on the stock water drop live wallpaper and it ran even more stuttery than on my Nexus 7 (1st gen)!! Surely that can't be right.
I expect my Dualboot Games live wallpapers to run buttery smooth on my next tablet!
Was that just a freak occurrence or is that just how it is? Hopefully one of you guys can put my mind at rest or I will pass on this one.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have been using my Z2 with some high res games and have not had any problems, a fantastic tablet.

I have gone ahead and ordered one, delivery Friday.
Its been a long time since I bought Sony. I used to buy nothing but Sony but their build quality and service went down hill and let me down so I boycotted them. Their latest stuff caught my eye though. We are in this together now guys..

tumpin said:
What is there to understand? I had to judge it on that cos it was a display model in the shop. I cant go customising it lol. Thats why Im on here asking the question from people that own one.
Was it the stock Sony launcher at fault? Is the stock launcher really that bad or is the device just like that regardless? For a premium device I would expect the stock launcher to perform at a decent level at least.
As for live wallpapers being superfluous s**t, that's irrelevant. Its been a feature of the OS for a long time now and I was surprised that the device struggled so badly with it. Like I say with seemingly less performance than my Nexus 7.
I was ready to buy one but from what I saw in the shop it made me nervous to drop £500 on it. So Z2 Tablet owners how is the device performing with 3rd party launchers? Im really expecting it to be silky smooth even with a live wallpaper running (obviously I understand some LWP's are badly made and slow no matter what device).
Any comments appreciated!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I dont see why you wouldnt try customising it. on the demo model in john lewis, I found an open wifi network, logged on with my google account, installed antutu and minion rush and tested them both to see how well it ran (very nice). Then I removed my account from it again. problem is the tab pro 10.1 also ran very nicely!
Also, there are going to be a number of software updates from sony that will fix issues like poor live wallpaper response. Although I too think they are resource hogging garbage!
Sent from my GT-P5110 using Tapatalk

@tumpin
Late reply considering that you've bought it but the reason that the store one was laggy was because it had been on for a LONG time. Given it a reboot should have fixed it.
Sent from my Xperia P using Tapatalk

Hamza Murad said:
@tumpin
Late reply considering that you've bought it but the reason that the store one was laggy was because it had been on for a LONG time. Given it a reboot should have fixed it.
Sent from my Xperia P using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep very well might have been that. I did try closing all in the switcher but maybe a reboot was needed. The poorly optimised Sony live wallpaper doesnt help either. Makes the device look slow! Im happy with it now!

hasenbein1966 said:
Forget this stupid stock launcher. Totally irrelevant.
I don't understand how people judge a device by preinstalled crap.
Install another launcher (Nova, whatever), and there you go.
Live wallpapers are battery eating, superfluous s**t anyway.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Agreed

tumpin said:
Yep very well might have been that. I did try closing all in the switcher but maybe a reboot was needed. The poorly optimised Sony live wallpaper doesnt help either. Makes the device look slow! Im happy with it now!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Received mine yesterday, and it is pretty damn nice. I had the TF700 for a while, and it seems so slow compared to the Z2, that old thing.
But you do have to install your own launcher, dont use that Sony crap, not so bad compared to usual stock, but other launchers are so much more customizable, why would you want to keep it stock!
Just waiting for a root option without losing the ability to backup DRM keys...

elbello said:
Received mine yesterday, and it is pretty damn nice. I had the TF700 for a while, and it seems so slow compared to the Z2, that old thing.
But you do have to install your own launcher, dont use that Sony crap, not so bad compared to usual stock, but other launchers are so much more customizable, why would you want to keep it stock!
Just waiting for a root option without losing the ability to backup DRM keys...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I to am looking at getting this tablet. Anyone using action launcher on it? I own all the paid launchers except for that one.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk