Engadget Review of the Motorola Xoom - Xoom General

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/23/motorola-xoom-review/

http://www.slashgear.com/motorola-xoom-review-23135670/
I think that review is more useful, shows shortcuts and many more features

parrotheadmjb said:
http://www.slashgear.com/motorola-xoom-review-23135670/
I think that review is more useful, shows shortcuts and many more features
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Good find, great review. Reviewer is a boner however.

blozout said:
Good find, great review. Reviewer is a boner however.
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Yea but he actually shows the device and its features :/

parrotheadmjb said:
Yea but he actually shows the device and its features :/
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Yup, which is why its a great review. Shows what it does rather than ***** about no flash or OS bugs.

Always remember that Topolsky can't review for **** (although he has improved a teeny bit over the years). He's probably the most biased reviewer of the whole lot there.

PoisonWolf said:
Always remember that Topolsky can't review for **** (although he has improved a teeny bit over the years). He's probably the most biased reviewer of the whole lot there.
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I certainly believe that he holds biases, but the more I hear about the Xoom the more I feel the score he gave it was accurate. I feel that he inflates the scores of Apple devices, but gives Android devices a fair score generally.

I am a bit worried with the wonky buttons.
And I might agree with the Honeycomb user interface comments (not good).
Hope Google address this.

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Engadget's faulty "reporting" on the Nexus One

Just.. unbelievable.
Engadget has close to ZERO fact checking.. and it almost seems like they're actually out to smear the N1 altogether! Check out this rediculous post from the 'engineers' at Motorola, claiming that drawing crossing lines on a device is a good test of a touchscreen's quality. Look how wavy the N1 is! Worst of the bunch, right? Not so. Here's a screenshot from my fiance's phone:
http://www.cartoonmonkey.com/nexus.jpg
Read the article here:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/09/moto-gives-straight-advice-on-smartphone-touchscreen-quality/
And my reply here:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/09/...tphone-touchscreen-quality/comments/24574769/
The other post that bothers me, is Engadget's stance on the flash 10 player coming to the N1:
Be sure to check out the animated ad for dog food to fully realize what a future of Flash-capable devices will really look like.
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/05/nexus-one-previewed-with-flash-10-1-beta-careful-what-you-wish/
Vote my comment up! Don't let Engadget get away with this bogus "reporting"..!
It's MOTO, not Motorola.
its funny that they post pictures but no video, ok we have the video of the first 3, but what about the video of the N1 getting doodled on... are they all using the same app? (that goes for the android phone)
why are we sposed to take their word for it that one pic was taking with slow, full finger motions while the other was tip and medium speed?
i used to go to engadget for all my tech reviews before i buy things but after pickin up this godsend of a phone, i have noticed how little validity or credibility their site has... still shots do not prove actions of precision...
this is an advanced world we live in now, engadget can make a video to bash androids browser speeds yet it cant make a video to prove this simple line test? plz...
cartoonmonkey said:
Just.. unbelievable.
Engadget has close to ZERO fact checking.. and it almost seems like they're actually out to smear the N1 altogether! Check out this rediculous post from the 'engineers' at Motorola, claiming that drawing crossing lines on a device is a good test of a touchscreen's quality. Look how wavy the N1 is! Worst of the bunch, right? Not so. Here's a screenshot from my fiance's phone:
http://www.cartoonmonkey.com/nexus.jpg
Read the article here:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/09/moto-gives-straight-advice-on-smartphone-touchscreen-quality/
And my reply here:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/09/...tphone-touchscreen-quality/comments/24574769/
The other post that bothers me, is Engadget's stance on the flash 10 player coming to the N1:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/05/nexus-one-previewed-with-flash-10-1-beta-careful-what-you-wish/
Vote my comment up! Don't let Engadget get away with this bogus "reporting"..!
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Nice work setting these Id10T's straight! I can't wait for your video!
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The other post that bothers me, is Engadget's stance on the flash 10 player coming to the N1:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/05/nexus-one-previewed-with-flash-10-1-beta-careful-what-you-wish/
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I just read the flash article on engadget and really? the guy specifically said that 80% of the video online uses flash, HOW ON GODS GREEN EARTH COULD FLASH OVERALL BE NEGATIVE?! This baffles the hell out of me, granted there will prolly be more ads on our browsers but i really dont care because having flash for other things is HUGE!
pros- 80% of online video will now be viewable
-sites that use flash entirely will now be viewable
-flash games can now be played
-flash can be integrated 1000 other ways with practical uses
cons- ads on websites
-may be a resource hog down? (doubt it though)
i say the pros definitely outweigh the cons...
It's funny...the Nexus One launch have brought out the true colors of Engadget, BGR, and others. Looks like Google and HTC are doing their job! That and I have lost all respect for Engadget and BGR.
staulkor said:
It's funny...the Nexus One launch have brought out the true colors of Engadget, BGR, and others. Looks like Google and HTC are doing their job! That and I have lost all respect for Engadget and BGR.
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A lot of us have known Engadget are a bunch of iphone licking fcuk heads for quite some time.
Once they get their vibrating iphones out of their respective a$$es, they might see straight again....
Its really disappointing. They also dished the HD2 which I currently use (altho I have a Nexus 1 on the way) and its truely an awesome winmo phone - and much better than an iphone!
cheetah2k said:
A lot of us have known Engadget are a bunch of iphone licking fcuk heads for quite some time.
Once they get their vibrating iphones out of their respective a$$es, they might see straight again....
Its really disappointing. They also dished the HD2 which I currently use (altho I have a Nexus 1 on the way) and its truely an awesome winmo phone - and much better than an iphone!
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Don't get me wrong, I love the HD2 as well; however, most people would rate the iphone higher strictly due to the OSes. I've never personally had a problem with WinMo, but it hasn't exactly been forward moving.
I'm still laughing at them about the 802.11N "reporting".
...breaking news...Nexus One doesn't support 802.11N...breaking news....
And they didn't try it? Simple test, would have shown they were wrong and it does support 802.11N, but that would not have pumped up the page views.
I personally dont have a problem with people liking their respective phones. If you like the iPhone thats great. If you like the HD2, thats fine. If you like the G1, thats great too. Hell, if you like the Motorola DynaTAC 8000X then thats just peachy.
What really pisses me off is when you try to use incorrect logic, flawed tests, and biased opinions to try and prove to me that the 3g signal in a Motorola DynaTAC 8000X is better than that of the HD2 (lets just say). This is what Engadget and many other reviewers have done, who after all this bull**** with biased opinions and flawed data are no longer considered reviewers in my opinion.
And it also pisses me off that because most people are ignorant, they take these reviewers words as truth and instead of forming there own decision, testing or doing more research already have a bad taste in their mouth. People should be like the recent TechCrunch article and and realize that just because you are not used to it and that it is different from the norm DOES NOT MAKE IT FLAWED, WRONG OR BROKEN!!!! IT JUST MAKES IT DIFFERENT WHETHER THAT BE FOR GOOD OR BAD IS FOR THE USER TO DECIDE!!!
CrApple must be paying them good money for messing things up with N1 launch. I really hate these fan boy srories poping up every day. I've got HD2 Bold2 and expecting N1 on monday. Every device has its own strength and weakness.
I think iToy user think they have best device and it will be forever. They have been deceived by Apple and whore member of on line media. New hardware of iToy can't be jailbreak any more, game over for now.
cartoonmonkey said:
Just.. unbelievable.
Engadget has close to ZERO fact checking.. and it almost seems like they're actually out to smear the N1 altogether! Check out this rediculous post from the 'engineers' at Motorola, claiming that drawing crossing lines on a device is a good test of a touchscreen's quality. Look how wavy the N1 is! Worst of the bunch, right? Not so. Here's a screenshot from my fiance's phone:
http://www.cartoonmonkey.com/nexus.jpg
Read the article here:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/09/moto-gives-straight-advice-on-smartphone-touchscreen-quality/
And my reply here:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/09/...tphone-touchscreen-quality/comments/24574769/
The other post that bothers me, is Engadget's stance on the flash 10 player coming to the N1:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/05/nexus-one-previewed-with-flash-10-1-beta-careful-what-you-wish/
Vote my comment up! Don't let Engadget get away with this bogus "reporting"..!
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This is preposterous. First the web browser speed test between iPhone, Droid, and N1 where the iPhone had clearly visited the page before and was just loading from cache and now this? What a complete joke.
Please stop bashing Engadget for nothing...
Engadget post doesn't say anything about the performance from the iPhone or the Nexus One. Engadget just posted an article from MOTO, without making any conclusions. And, if you read the post at MOTO, then you will know that the Nexus One preformed very good (the same as your picture shows) if you press 'medium' on your touchscreen.
So, please, stop bashing Engadget and read the posts good en entirely!
Wtf. Don't these people have anything better to do than doodling lines? Why are they spending countless hours to rip a phone?
FabianNL said:
Please stop bashing Engadget for nothing...
Engadget post doesn't say anything about the performance from the iPhone or the Nexus One. Engadget just posted an article from MOTO, without making any conclusions. And, if you read the post at MOTO, then you will know that the Nexus One preformed very good (the same as your picture shows) if you press 'medium' on your touchscreen.
So, please, stop bashing Engadget and read the posts good en entirely!
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You can't say that engadget hasn't exhibited a clear bias. Their browser test was clearly rigged. That generated a lot of bad press. Almost every aspect of their review focuses on the tiny contrivances they found instead of anything positive. Literally, the phone is twice as fast (almost) as any of the other smart phones out there, yet they could hardly find even a single good thing to say about it.
Everything was written from a "the iphone has been doing it better for years now" perspective.
I tried this myself as well, and my lines came out pin straight even moving very slowly. Engadget is really a bunch of apple fanboys, even from their initial review of the Nexus.
Ive had my girlfriends Iphone 3Gs and my Nexus side by side, and in all aspects I'd rather use the nexus.
Crowe T. Robot said:
You can't say that engadget hasn't exhibited a clear bias. Their browser test was clearly rigged. That generated a lot of bad press. Almost every aspect of their review focuses on the tiny contrivances they found instead of anything positive. Literally, the phone is twice as fast (almost) as any of the other smart phones out there, yet they could hardly find even a single good thing to say about it.
Everything was written from a "the iphone has been doing it better for years now" perspective.
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The browser test was indeed very poor and totally useless because they only use one website, Engadget.com, instead of multiple websites like it use to be. And yes, I have seen better reviews then this review... But, to say that all the articles on Engadget are 'crap' because they are iPhone fanboys is a little overdone.
FabianNL said:
The browser test was indeed very poor and totally useless because they only use one website, Engadget.com, instead of multiple websites like it use to be. And yes, I have seen better reviews then this review... But, to say that all the articles on Engadget are 'crap' because they are iPhone fanboys is a little overdone.
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No its precisely what it is..crap.
Its liek asking a redskins fan to break down Dallas Cowboy performances.
These guys clearly have an agenda which means the product is irrelevant. Once that happens things become tainted and "crap" is the label most appropriate.
The N1 is becoming the most hated phone to ever come out. It's amazing at how tech sites and apple fans are trying to make this phone look bad. Just admit it, you really do want one. We all know you do.
Got my N1 2010/01/07
Absolutely love it.
My N1 brings all the boys to the yard,
And their like
It's better than yours,
Damn right it's better than yours,
I can teach you,
But I have to charge

xperia arc review - engadget

First review I have seen
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/30/sony-ericsson-xperia-arc-review/
everything non Apple is bad for Engadget
mith500 said:
First review I have seen
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/30/sony-ericsson-xperia-arc-review/
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This Engadget site is pro Apple and is against anything else which is not made by Apple. Ignore this site for android device reviews
hung77 said:
This Engadget site is pro Apple and is against anything else which is not made by Apple. Ignore this site for android device reviews
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quite, dear sir, quite.
i never liked them..
Why on earth did the Incredible S get 8 points and the Arc 7? Same chips, Arc has a bigger and better screen, better camera, looks great and sleek, comes with 2.3 already (!), only has less RAM. And did they even mention sound/call quality?
Engadget is a bad joke.
george232 said:
Why on earth did the Incredible S get 8 points and the Arc 7? Same chips, Arc has a bigger and better screen, better camera, looks great and sleek, comes with 2.3 already (!), only has less RAM. And did they even mention sound/call quality?
Engadget is a bad joke.
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But I do agree with them that the videocam is terrible ! I hope they can fix that.
Personally I'd give it 8 out of 10 but that comes from a guy who just ordered one today and cant wait to get it on friday. Guess I "want" it to be 8/10.
Ah what the hell, its gonna be awesome
I love how they wouldnt stop talking about how thin the iphone 4 was but it was barely mentioned in the Arc review and when it was, it was shown in a negative light. The iphone 4 should have gotten a 7 just for the fact that the screen is so bloody small.
Horrible Engadget horrible.
Theres another review over at What Mobile, quite thorough and seems generally positive. They gave the phone a 5 out of 5
Sadly i cant paste links yet, but google sony ericsson arc review and you should see it, or go to What Mobile's site
The only downside to the Arc's buttonry is one we spotted with the Xperia Play as well -- there's no illumination for the key labels in the dark. You get a pair of lights marking the division between each key, but their purpose is basically indecipherable when the phone's used in the dark
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Hahaha... ooh 3 buttons.. oooh.. I can't remember which one is which.. it's so complex! if only there was just one button.. that would be much better!
hung77 said:
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I do not bother visiting Engadget any more as they are only positive with Apple products. Time to clean out the reviewers I think and get some fresh faces there that will give us unbiased opinions on new technology from non fan boys.
I was hopping the camera was as good as they were making out it was going to be in there advertising lets hope there can be a software update to improve the quality a little.
Engadget is a good source for review
You can check also CNet UK which give good review
(http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/mobile-phones/sony-ericsson-xperia-arc-review-50002090/)
The point is that SE saves money where they should not
Giving little RAM make no sense
It makes the machine slow when running new games or multi-tasking and this is not what the end user want
It is difficult enough to compete with dual-cores so at least give us 512mb or 768mb - this is also probably the reason why the camera video is jerky
Camera also not as good as advertised since small sensor
Nice. I have a feeling that a Factory unlocked Xperia ARC will be my next device . IF the unlock bootlader thing comes out first!
Positive review on Pocket Lint as well.
http://m.pocket-lint.com/reviews/review_summary.phtml/5341
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Camera also not as good as advertised since small sensor
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It's far better than the iPhone 4 camera. I have both.
And the advertisement was mainly in the low light capabilities, where it's FAR better than the iPhone.
i like this thing!! i buy this thing!!
it rocks!
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You can check also CNet UK which give good review
(http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/mobile-phones/sony-ericsson-xperia-arc-review-50002090/)
The point is that SE saves money where they should not
Giving little RAM make no sense
It makes the machine slow when running new games or multi-tasking and this is not what the end user want
It is difficult enough to compete with dual-cores so at least give us 512mb or 768mb - this is also probably the reason why the camera video is jerky
Camera also not as good as advertised since small sensor
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1) arc has 512 ram. all new xperias have 512 ram
2) the camera is awsome, for a phone. there are comparison vids between iphone4 and arc.. you see the difference lol
3) camera is not jerky cuz of low ram. lol. or am i wrong here? but still if it can be, they must have had a ton of apps in the background, since 300+ mb of user available ram is MORE than enough for a friggin camera lol.
Even while multitask-gaming (multiple games open at once) and listening to music and just using my Arc for general stuff, I haven't dropped below 80MB free RAM. And I do not use task killers or kill processes. RAM is really not a problem ATM.
The camera is really, really good for a phone. Only the Nokia N8 has a better camera. Especially in low light, the photos might not be really really good, but they're still by far the best of all mobile phone cameras. In such a small and slim device it's impossible to fit a larger sensor, so it's impossible to get a much better camera anyway.
Camera video jerky? There's a small bug that makes video hang for half a second when switching between very dark and very light images, but that is the only thing I've noticed, and it happens very rarely.
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I understand your point but did you even read the article? They gave it a good review. Also to those referring to the number system please remember that the same person does not usually do all phone reviews so they are subjective.
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gsm arena's xperia arc review is out
but I cant read it, it is gibberish....WTF! April fools or what?
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_arc-review-583.php
EDIT: new link for the review in English...lol
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_arc-review-584.php
It should be clear by now that this review article, outlived in a day, was a mere April's Fools Day joke. We have a proper Arc review up online, so you should refer to that instead. We're glad you saw the funny side of it. If you are interested, you can find more about the Lorem ipsum dolor text here. To see more of our 1st April's spirit, check out our Genesis tablet.
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Yup, Arpil fool. They have a real review up but i can't link it.
The lorem ipsum dolor text is an old Microsoft joke used to display how fonts appear in Word to give the user an idea which font to choose. The text means nothing, it's a bunch of words sounding Latin and therefore important and smart.

Hemorrdroids.net Galaxy Note Review

Hi guys, I'd appreciate any feedback.
http://hemorrdroids.net/samsung-galaxy-note-review/
Video portion here --
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxxEm_P57JE
It's very well written and objective. I think that the best praise I could give is that you came with an open mind. When comparing to other reviews, many were immediately critical of Samsung for the large size - you acknowledged that it was for a niche audience.
Oh well ... there are people who like big phones.
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Hi guys, I'd appreciate any feedback.
http://hemorrdroids.net/samsung-galaxy-note-review/
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It's pretty decent.
I remain amazed at how few reviews discuss how awesome it would be to use the Note as a GPS, with its fast lock time (GLONASS), large screen, and free Navigation. I think it's a big selling point, not just for the Note but for android as well.
- Frank
Agree with the comments above good review Andy and I am following you on youtube (along with NZtechfreak) as well.
Thanks guys
I'm a little annoyed with myself, I meant to put in a picture of me using it as a SatNav, as it certainly is very good for it. Maybe I'll edit it in this week
Very good review. Also matches pretty well my opinion of the device, except for camera that seams clearly worse then S2. I have the Note for an week and i took plenty of shot with it. I think the aperture of Note < S2, also the diameter of the lens is smaller
ChodTheWacko said:
It's pretty decent.
I remain amazed at how few reviews discuss how awesome it would be to use the Note as a GPS, with its fast lock time (GLONASS), large screen, and free Navigation. I think it's a big selling point, not just for the Note but for android as well.
- Frank
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Totally agree with you Frank
Great tip on Samsung Dive. Didn't know about that. Thanks given
mdalacu said:
except for camera that seams clearly worse then S2. I have the Note for an week and i took plenty of shot with it. I think the aperture of Note < S2, also the diameter of the lens is smaller
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Yeah, the only two shots I had I could directly compare, one I was worried it was more about weather, the other they looked very similar.
The only thing I would recommend (and this is for all Android phones) is that you abandon the usage of Quadrant as a benchmark. It is inaccurate in terms of real world performance. Sadly, it is also one of the most widely used.
As an alternative I would recommend perhaps Smartbench 2011.
Smartbench wont run on the Note though
Hey Andy, nice review, like your work - I'm pretty disenchanted with the major sites rubbish gadget reviews, it's really nice to see some of the highest quality ones coming from people such as yourself.
Agree with the dark lords comments about Quadrant as a benchmark too, I still include it because lots of people want to know, but I also make sure to include some better benchmarks. Smartbench and Chainfire bench are two of the better ones (of course as you say, and as I alluded to in my own review Smartbench is buckets o' fail for the Note right now).
Oh, and in terms of feedback - more screenshots are good, particularly in a Note review where you can annotate them from the device itself!
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The only thing I would recommend (and this is for all Android phones) is that you abandon the usage of Quadrant as a benchmark. It is inaccurate in terms of real world performance. Sadly, it is also one of the most widely used.
As an alternative I would recommend perhaps Smartbench 2011.
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their quadrant score seems a little low. mine hits 3865 running stock.
Nice review, however regarding the S-Note app, you can add pages by clicking the plus in the bottom right of the screen.
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The only thing I would recommend (and this is for all Android phones) is that you abandon the usage of Quadrant as a benchmark. It is inaccurate in terms of real world performance. Sadly, it is also one of the most widely used.
As an alternative I would recommend perhaps Smartbench 2011.
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As we all can see AnTuTu is clearly gaining it's fair share of reputation and well worth it I believe.
As for benchmarks tests for PC's, they usually subjective to the performance and not real world scenarios.
Also about Quadrant, I agree with what you said 100% but since it's so widely used we can only use it as average of what we are "supposed" to get. Nothing more.
Didnt read any reviews yet , dont own the Note yet ( but I will, unless the Nexus Prime will change my mind), but I did my own testing and comparison tests on some showrooms and I am quite impressed....even the Yamaha dac is better implemented...
I just could not test the GPS...
The gps chipset on my sgs1 needs some assist but it does the Job.(see videos on my sign)
I read that the sgs2 got the sirfstarIV chipset which is impressive cause all my standalone Gps devices got the SirfstarIII.
Does the note got the Sirfstar IV as well?
Tks.
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I have owned a lot of devices and SGN has the best GPS by far, yes, better than SGS2. Very accurate and quick!
Nice reviews thank you for taking the time. You reaffirmed what I suspected great device but big. For me considering my hand are big (+10" span) this actually will be better for people with large hands.
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Thanks for good review!
Today was Samsung Galaxy Note release day in my country Latvia and first 50 phones were sold by the half price LVL 263.50 (~$ 540,00). I was lucky to get one by the half price
Phone is realy amazing so far!
Here you can check the link:
http://www.galaxynote.lv/http://www.galaxynote.lv/
katinsh said:
Thanks for good review!
Today was Samsung Galaxy Note release day in my country Latvia and first 50 phones were sold by the half price LVL 263.50 (~). I was lucky to get one by the half price
Phone is realy amazing so far!
Here you can check the link:
http://www.galaxynote.lv/http://www.galaxynote.lv/
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Where's the BUY BUTTON?!

Viewing angle shots Xperia Z vs. Optimus 4x vs. iPhone 4

Hi guys and gals,
got my Xperia Z today and am really disappointed with the display viewing angles. Just wanted to share a few shots with you for comparison.
(Don't hate me for the iDevice, it's a business phone, didn't have a choice :angel: )
The bad thing is: you really notice the color distortion at normal use. While looking up front, everything's fine. But tilt in any direction and you immediately see the problem. Didn't expect the 4x display to be so much better, minus the resolution. Maybe I just have caught a "bad" Xperia, but... meh. Guess I will return it and wait for the X-Phone or so.
I read on a german site that users are reporting a great variety in display quality, this is really a bummer on a flagship smartphone.
regards,
pint
Looks good to me.
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Same here
That's not even close to bad. The two others uses IPS displays and the Z does not.
pintness said:
Hi guys and gals,
got my Xperia Z today and am really disappointed with the display viewing angles. Just wanted to share a few shots with you for comparison.
(Don't hate me for the iDevice, it's a business phone, didn't have a choice :angel: )
The bad thing is: you really notice the color distortion at normal use. While looking up front, everything's fine. But tilt in any direction and you immediately see the problem. Didn't expect the 4x display to be so much better, minus the resolution. Maybe I just have caught a "bad" Xperia, but... meh. Guess I will return it and wait for the X-Phone or so.
I read on a german site that users are reporting a great variety in display quality, this is really a bummer on a flagship smartphone.
regards,
pint
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Whats the issue, 99% of the time you will look head one, which your photo proves Sony is as good as the other phones.
Is this a troll thread?
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agreed
samxool said:
Whats the issue, 99% of the time you will look head one, which your photo proves Sony is as good as the other phones.
Is this a troll thread?
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to be fair, not every one has the same expectations and preferences so if you really want good viewing angles this is not the phone for you or if you feel you miss out when other phones have better viewing angles, this is not the phone for you. in the end of the day Sony could have prevented this by using a better panel.
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indycar said:
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The screen quality looks amazing! Viewing angels are alot better than expected too.
The Sony Xperia Z looks much sleeker and has a better design compared to the other 2. The Iphone looks tiny.
Wow... Are ppl this mindless? It was proven that the screens are all the same. How can some look bad and some great? Simple. They can't.
What is happening is that some ppl are just shouting about how great the scrrn is, while ignoring a huge flaw.
I don't understand why ppl don't recognize this and speak up? Tell Sony you arent happy so they can change it in the next version.
Why are ppl settling for less?
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Maedhros said:
Wow... Are ppl this mindless? It was proven that the screens are all the same. How can some look bad and some great? Simple. They can't.
What is happening is that some ppl are just shouting about how great the scrrn is, while ignoring a huge flaw.
I don't understand why ppl don't recognize this and speak up? Tell Sony you arent happy so they can change it in the next version.
Why are ppl settling for less?
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This is sad. Why's it affecting you more than people who will and already have shelled out money for it?
omersak said:
This is sad. Why's it affecting you more than people who will and already have shelled out money for it?
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Because... The better phones Sony Makes, the better for eveeyone. Simple capitalism. I have a vested interest in pointing out flaws in the device, just as I am critical of several things on otther device
Such as DDR2 Ram on the HTC one instead of DDR3. Not to mention low GL bench scores and the the camera not necessarily living up to the hype.
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Because... The better phones Sony Makes, the better for eveeyone. Simple capitalism. I have a vested interest in pointing out flaws in the device, just as I am critical of several things on otther device
Such as DDR2 Ram on the HTC one instead of DDR3. Not to mention low GL bench scores and the the camera not necessarily living up to the hype.
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So, when the S4 is announced with exynos 5, i take it you'll focus 100% to the HTC One forms and repeatedly post about it being outdated and obsolete - right? You know, like exactly you did with the Xperia Z.
Please can you take a photo with a better camera? Thanks
samxool said:
Whats the issue, 99% of the time you will look head one, which your photo proves Sony is as good as the other phones.
Is this a troll thread?
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Nobody looks on their smartphone in the exact same angle 99% of the time. Do you hold your smartphone straight before your eyes when you look at it? Because that's the only angle the colors are shown correct. The slightest tilt will result in distortion and this ist f*ing annoying.
I have my phone lying on the table while reading news or watching videos, imagine that. Looks ****ty.
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That's not even close to bad. The two others uses IPS displays and the Z does not.
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Why would I care what kind of screen Sony uses on the XPZ, I just want an AWESOME screen. This is cleary not awesome.
Don't forget it's a 600€-phone, you should expect a high-end-display on this one.
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Please can you take a photo with a better camera? Thanks
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The camera's great, I just had not-ideal settings. But given I wanted to show the color distortion, I guess the problem is pretty obvious. What do you want to see?
pintness said:
Hi guys and gals,
got my Xperia Z today and am really disappointed with the display viewing angles. Just wanted to share a few shots with you for comparison.
(Don't hate me for the iDevice, it's a business phone, didn't have a choice :angel: )
The bad thing is: you really notice the color distortion at normal use. While looking up front, everything's fine. But tilt in any direction and you immediately see the problem. Didn't expect the 4x display to be so much better, minus the resolution. Maybe I just have caught a "bad" Xperia, but... meh. Guess I will return it and wait for the X-Phone or so.
I read on a german site that users are reporting a great variety in display quality, this is really a bummer on a flagship smartphone.
regards,
pint
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Yuck that is pretty bad.
I should have mine soon, guess I'll see how I get on before the return period runs out..
pintness said:
Nobody looks on their smartphone in the exact same angle 99% of the time. Do you hold your smartphone straight before your eyes when you look at it? Because that's the only angle the colors are shown correct. The slightest tilt will result in distortion and this ist f*ing annoying.
I have my phone lying on the table while reading news or watching videos, imagine that. Looks ****ty.
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Not true, sorry.
Here are my shots of Z in the store:
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=205054&p=106&g=Go
The fourth photo shows the phone at an angle (even this is unnatural though) and everything looks great.
Mind it's a shop where strong lights reflect on the Z's surface.
Al Gore said:
Looks good to me.
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can u post img of ur xZ for viewing andgle?
doministry said:
Not true, sorry.
Here are my shots of Z in the store:
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=205054&p=106&g=Go
The fourth photo shows the phone at an angle (even this is unnatural though) and everything looks great.
Mind it's a shop where strong lights reflect on the Z's surface.
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Compare the icon colours of picture 2+3 to the colors on picture 1. Obvious.
Since there are no colours on picture 4, take a look at the software button bar and compare the lightness to that on on picture 1. Pretty much different, I don't think it looks too great.
edit: also compare the software button bar on pic 2+3 to pic 1, it's almost as "nice" as the display on my Archos A70.
Wow XZ screen looks really wonderful at first pic, which the same viewing angle I use 99% of the time
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Japanese vs European screen
Japanese is better (disregarding grey navigation bars on Euro models)

Harsh Rating!!!

I believe everyone rates this phone highly, so why has cnet gave this phone a 4 out of 5 rating??
Can't post a link as I'm a newbie...
fazzxx said:
I believe everyone rates this phone highly, so why has cnet gave this phone a 4 out of 5 rating??
Can't post a link as I'm a newbie...
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Maybe HTC dont advertise heavily enough on their site?
dahmmy said:
Maybe HTC dont advertise heavily enough on their site?
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hahaha, point to be noted, your honor!
i have never seen this many positive reviews for an HTC phone. some are calling it the best designed smart phone ever made.
not every review is going to be positive. and i wouldn't necessarily call 4 out of 5 stars a bad review.
It's still better than the Verge's abomination.
4 out of 5 is terrible tbh, phones are subjective and the main criticism for HTC phones is Sense... which I prefer to any other oem ui and asop by far, loved it since my touch pro
I wouldn't call it harsh. Here's their highlights and low-lights.
The battery and storage comment shouldn't really surprise anyone. So far,the camera's received mixed reviews with some reviewers being more impressed than others. I can see BlinkFeed being a "love it or hate it" proposition which is really in the eye of the beholder and everyone won't like it equally. The comments about scuffing are concerning. They loved the display and design which I think will be pretty much a universal theme.
Here's the review...
http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/mobile-phones/htc-one-review-50010439/
Blinkfeed is cool, when you like to read a lot of news and social things like Facebook, which i do often when i have job school
Camera is good, ok Lumia 920 beats it, but who cares. Its good, not negativ.
No need of expandable storage if you have 32 GB, in my opinion.
BarryH_GEG said:
I wouldn't call it harsh. Here's their highlights and low-lights.
The battery and storage comment shouldn't really surprise anyone. So far,the camera's received mixed reviews with some reviewers being more impressed than others. I can see BlinkFeed being a "love it or hate it" proposition which is really in the eye of the beholder and everyone won't like it equally. The comments about scuffing are concerning. They loved the display and design which I think will be pretty much a universal theme.
Here's the review...
http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/mobile-phones/htc-one-review-50010439/
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I kind of agree with all the points.
BlinkFeed is merely a user-preference, but ability to remove it should be an option.
Then read their xperia review and go mad.
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......also "Camera doesnt Impress", sounds more neutral than "Bad" to me, it's not a bad thing, it holds its own in most aspects of picture and video taking especially considering its stsbilisation function.
Actually I dont think any of those "Bad" points are really valid to potential buyers or the more tech savvy.
I think he is speculating about the black and scratches. I'm pretty sure his house keys are not made of gold (it's too soft and expensive compared to brass). Also, the black isn't painted on, it's anodised. I rate the review less than 4/5.
The camera might be a little gimmick but.. i wouldn't say 4 out of 5 is bad..Plus thats only one review.. im sure you not going to let one review be the deal decision maker for you.. i can only see myself taking a star away for the way HTC handling the release.. but that has nothing to do with the phone.. that's just bad PR
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The camera might be a little gimmick but.. i wouldn't say 4 out of 5 is bad..Plus thats only one review.. im sure you not going to let one review be the deal decision maker for you.. i can only see myself taking a star away for the way HTC handling the release.. but that has nothing to do with the phone.. that's just bad PR
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Camera is hardly gimmicky. Everything done is actually for good reason.
Hunt3r.j2 said:
Camera is hardly gimmicky. Everything done is actually for good reason.
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If the camera isn't, the term "Ultrapixel" is.
It's not new at all. In fact, the N82 and N95 from over 5+ years ago had both larger sensors (~1/2.5) and larger individual pixel bins than the new flagship from HTC.
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It's still better than the Verge's abomination.
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I know! And their comparisons were a load of rubbish as well!
Livebyte said:
I kind of agree with all the points.
BlinkFeed is merely a user-preference, but ability to remove it should be an option.
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I agree but at least you can tuck it away so out of sight out of mind.
hung2900 said:
If the camera isn't, the term "Ultrapixel" is.
It's not new at all. In fact, the N82 and N95 from over 5+ years ago had both larger sensors (~1/2.5) and larger individual pixel bins than the new flagship from HTC.
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Of course, but how else are you going to explain to "educated" consumers that 4MP is better than 13MP?
fernando sor said:
i have never seen this many positive reviews for an HTC phone. some are calling it the best designed smart phone ever made.
not every review is going to be positive. and i wouldn't necessarily call 4 out of 5 stars a bad review.
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It IS the best designed smartphone ever made. The previous title goes to the HTC One X in my opinion.
From what I've read, there's something symptomatic in CNET review: they put as a negative point the fact that the phone doesn't have SD card or removable battery, yet that point is never raised when they describe iPhone.

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