I tried the Atrix and HTC Inspire in-store, and while I absolutely want an upgrade, I'm not convinced either is good enough, and am looking beyond to the next wave of Android phones on AT&T, unless nothing better is coming anytime soon.
I am subject to an odd process where I put in for an upgrade now and will get approval in four months, at which point I get to choose a new phone, which means I merely need to know that a phone I want will be available four months from now. If a good phone is coming in 5 or 6 months, it makes sense to wait, otherwise, I can put in now and see, four months from now, if the Atrix's bootloader has been smashed to hell and good custom ROMs are available, and if not, get an Inspire.
So, what good-looking Android phone are here or on the way. Here's what I've been able to determine, with pros and cons:
Motorola Atrix
Available Now
Pros:
Dual core 1 GHz Tegra 2
1 GB RAM
Fingerprint scanner
Front-facing camera
"4"G
HDMI out
Giant battery - 1930 mAh
16 GB internal memory
Highest resolution screen - 540 x 960
Gorilla Glass
Cons:
Past experience with AT&T says that custom ROMs will be few and far between
Froyo (and lack of ROMs means we can't fix this ourselves)
Slow webtop experience (we can't, yet, fix ourselves)
Internet speeds were terrible in store
4-inch screen (not necessarily a bad thing, but a point to consider)
HTC Inspire
Available Now
Pros:
4.3-inch screen (bigger than the Atrix)
HTC (ROMs galore!)
8 Megapixel camera (Atrix has 5)
Cons:
No front camera
Much smaller battery - 1230 mAh
4 GB internal memory
1 GHz Snapdragon single core processor
768 MB RAM
Lower screen resolution than the Atrix - 480 x 800
Lousy speakerphone
No HDMI
Samsung Infuse
Available Mid-2011
Pros:
1.2 GHz Hummingbird (single core, but faster)
8 Megapixel camera with 1080p video
Front facing camera - 1.3 Megapixels (four times the Atrix)
Super AMOLED Plus screen
Decent battery (1750 mAH)
As flashable as any Samsung (much better than Motorola)
16 GB internal memory
Cons:
4.5 inch screen (tablet territory, some may love it)
Lower screen resolution than the Atrix - 480 x 800
Only one core
RAM unknown
LG Optimus 2X
Availability: Who knows?
Pros:
Tegra 2, like the Atrix
Decent 1500 mAH battery
HDMI out
Gyroscope
Cons:
No carriers announced
8 GB internal memory
Samsung Galaxy S2
Availability: Q2
Pros:
Ships with Gingerbread
Exynos 1 GHz dual core processor
4.3-inch Super AMOLED Plus display with Gorilla Glass
16 GB internal memory, 32 GB on some models
8 Megapixel camera with 1080p video and image stabilization
Front facing camera - 2 megapixels, almost 7X the Atrix
Gyroscope
Excellent 1630 mAH battery (no Atrix, but pretty good)
Quad core GPU
NFC (some versions)
HDMI out
Bluetooth 3.0
Cons:
Lower resolution than the Atrix - 480x800
Not yet announced for AT&T (but probably coming)
Looking at all that, I'm thinking that the best bet is that the only true Atrix competitor is the S2, and assume that it will come out mide July, like the Captivate. I can put in for an upgrade in late March, which should give the S2 enough time to come to market and be reviewed, plus the Atrix to hopefully get some ROMs, and make the call.
Are there any other phones worth looking forward to? Is there any other reason to choose the Inspire or Infuse, or to not put my chips on the Atrix or Infuse?
There is always going to be a group of new phones coming out soon. I'd say just pick the one you like the most at the time. If something else you can't live without comes out in a few months (and it will) just sell the phone you bought to cover most of the out of contract price of your next one.
I returned my Inspire to get the Atrix so that's where I stand there.
I would never buy another Samsung Android device unless the show a commitment to upgrading. They tend to just want you to buy the next phone instead.
LG Optimus looks nice, but I hate LG phones so I'd stay away. Generally poor build quality and software.
These questions may be better answered in the General forum, not the Atrix specific General forum.
In here you are limiting your population to people that are looking about Atrix specific stuff.
I'm typing this on my inspire. Saying that, I love it a lot. It is my first android, and in my opinion probably the best way to enter it.
My only complaint is the battery. Even being small, it does power management well and lasts longer than my dads iphone 3gs. (maybe some debate if that's froyo I guess)
With rooting/roms, I'm sure I could make the battery last longer by removing bloat ware and stuff.
the way I see it, phones are out matched months after they come out. Better phones will be developed even after phones are announced. That's what competition does to technology. So why torture yourself thinking about what MAY come out, when months later better suff will be out.
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Good points all around.
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These questions may be better answered in the General forum, not the Atrix specific General forum.
In here you are limiting your population to people that are looking about Atrix specific stuff.
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Perhaps. I guess what I'm really asking is that, now that the Atrix is available and people have tried it out, do they still want the Atrix, or is it worth waiting just a couple more months?
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There is always going to be a group of new phones coming out soon.
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antioch216 said:
the way I see it, phones are out matched months after they come out. Better phones will be developed even after phones are announced. That's what competition does to technology. So why torture yourself thinking about what MAY come out, when months later better suff will be out.
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Absolutely. I think that what it comes down to is:
The Atrix got us all very excited, but the excitement is fading under a number of negatives:
1 - terrible pricing on the dock and tethering policy
2 - Motorola's pointless signing of the bootloader, which only removes value from the device
3 - the laptop dock has a lot of dissapointments (touchpad, speed)
On the other hand, the Atrix is still an incredible phone, and it goes us excited for some great reasons:
1 - killer processor
2 - huge battery
3 - unique features (docks, fingerprint reader)
4 - somewhat rare features (front facing camera, lots of internal [non-MicroSD] storage, HDMI out)
What makes it tough is the Galaxy S2, which doesn't have the unique features, but has everything else the Atrix has and more
Vs. Atrix:
Atrix negatives:
2 - Samsung's are easier to load custom ROMs on
Atrix positives:
1 - Also has a killer processor, one that, when tested, could even beat the Atrix
2 - Larger than average battery
4 - better rare features (better front facing camera, more internal storage
And its own positives:
1 - better camera
2 - Super AMOLED plus screen (amazing bright colors, lower power usage)
3 - bigger screen
4 - Gyroscope
5 - 1080p video
And just one known negative:
1 - Lower resolution screen
So, what this thread should really be is:
Do you still want the Atrix, or do you plan on waiting just 5 months for the Galaxy S2?
My upgrade date is in three days, I'm hoping that they'll crack the bootloader issue for the atrix pretty soon, I will not buy the phone without it.
The only real con I see for the Atrix is the lack of an LTE radio on it, if you get one you'll be stuck with it for the next two years ( unless you want to pay full price ) and LTE should be up and running ( in some areas ) in that time frame.
Even though I've been an ATT customer for 8 years I hold no loyalty to them, I'm waiting for more info to come on the HTC " pyramid " and could switch to T-Mobile if that phone has a bigger battery than the pathetic things that HTC puts in them now. We all know HTC seems to be the devs favorite brand and CM would positively fly on a dual core phone.
After owning a Craptivate I wont even consider another Samsung phone. I don't care how impressive the specs are Samsung will find a way to screw it up. If you don't like the Atrix then just wait a few months for the next great HTC phone. The Inspire is nice, but it' s just a lightly upgraded Evo and cant compete with the Atrix.
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After owning a Craptivate I wont even consider another Samsung phone. I don't care how impressive the specs are Samsung will find a way to screw it up. If you don't like the Atrix then just wait a few months for the next great HTC phone. The Inspire is nice, but it' s just a lightly upgraded Evo and cant compete with the Atrix.
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I love HTC, and really wanted my next phone to be an HTC. But I feel like I can't rely on them to bring good hardware to AT&T. My current phone is their Rhodium, and since then I've seen:
Droid Incredible - Looks great, not on AT&T
Desire Z - Great keyboard, not on AT&T
Evo - Kinda special at the time, but not on AT&T
7 Pro - Amazing keyboard, probably never coming to AT&T
Aria - Wonderful phone, my wife loves it, but not for power users
I felt like HTC all of a sudden decided it hated AT&T. Now we've got two new ones:
Inspire - updated Evo, decent but old hat, doesn't stand up to the other phones released at the time
Thunderbolt - slightly better than the Inspire, not coming to AT&T
I hope HTC comes up with something special by summer, but I'm not holding my breath. I am on my fourth consecutive HTC phone, and right now, it looks like my last.
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Anyone else thinking about switching over to it? Just got my incredible last Saturday so im considering switching over to it instead... Anyone else got any thoughts on it? Im for sure interested in the 720p capture (but cant DI be upgraded for that in the future?) we already have the tv out (without a cord yet) but will it be the same capabilities as DI can have, im not sure. My biggest things are the better processor (still worried about heat issues on it tho, perhaps unwarranted) and the 4.3 inch TFT 24 bit display (really concerned at how that looks over the AMOLED screens we have now on DI) I am currently only a week in with the DI and have had problems with the phones hardware so I can either get full refund or trade it in for the Droid X within the 30 days from store or trade in from VZW tech support (since i had problems and no other units are available to RMA mine with some problems they gave me extended upgradeability incase i had to get another phone until more are available) so im just tryin to pick pros and cons and so far i am loving the size and feel of the DI but I do have battery issues as well and a bigger battery on the X is a great feature.... the shape looks a little bulky on top which might be great but may feel bad as well.... anyone who has anything to add I would greatly apprecieate your input... im afraid until I can play with a X I may not know tho... the 3 microphones and the top and bottom antenna are really sweet 2... this phone sounds pretty sweet.
Some quick Specs.
1. Operating System: Android 2.1 w/ Motoblur
2. Processor: 1Ghz OMAP3430
3. On-board Storage: 8GB
4. Expandable Storage: 32GB, (16 GB included)
5. Total Storage: 40GB (24GB included)
6. Display Size: 4.3" Capacitive Touchscreen
7. Display Resolution: WGVA 854 x 480 pixels
8. Camera: 8 MP
9. Flash: Dual LED
10. Video Recording: 720p
11. Noise Cancelling: 3 Microphones
12. WiFi: yes
13. GPS: yes
14. Bluetooth: yes
15. HDMI: yes
Android 2.2 Froyo w/Flash 10.1 will be release later in the summer(around August) with an over-the-air update.
Heck no, HTC Forever!!
c-pimp said:
Anyone else thinking about switching over to it? Just got my incredible last Saturday so im considering switching over to it instead... Anyone else got any thoughts on it? Im for sure interested in the 720p capture (but cant DI be upgraded for that in the future?) we already have the tv out (without a cord yet) but will it be the same capabilities as DI can have, im not sure. My biggest things are the better processor (still worried about heat issues on it tho, perhaps unwarranted) and the 4.3 inch TFT 24 bit display (really concerned at how that looks over the AMOLED screens we have now on DI) I am currently only a week in with the DI and have had problems with the phones hardware so I can either get full refund or trade it in for the Droid X within the 30 days from store or trade in from VZW tech support (since i had problems and no other units are available to RMA mine with some problems they gave me extended upgradeability incase i had to get another phone until more are available) so im just tryin to pick pros and cons and so far i am loving the size and feel of the DI but I do have battery issues as well and a bigger battery on the X is a great feature.... the shape looks a little bulky on top which might be great but may feel bad as well.... anyone who has anything to add I would greatly apprecieate your input... im afraid until I can play with a X I may not know tho... the 3 microphones and the top and bottom antenna are really sweet 2... this phone sounds pretty sweet.
Some quick Specs.
1. Operating System: Android 2.1 w/ Motoblur
2. Processor: 1Ghz OMAP3430
3. On-board Storage: 8GB
4. Expandable Storage: 32GB, (16 GB included)
5. Total Storage: 40GB (24GB included)
6. Display Size: 4.3" Capacitive Touchscreen
7. Display Resolution: WGVA 854 x 480 pixels
8. Camera: 8 MP
9. Flash: Dual LED
10. Video Recording: 720p
11. Noise Cancelling: 3 Microphones
12. WiFi: yes
13. GPS: yes
14. Bluetooth: yes
15. HDMI: yes
Android 2.2 Froyo w/Flash 10.1 will be release later in the summer(around August) with an over-the-air update.
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I am wary and here is why:
Have you seen how hard they are pushing the Droid X? TV, website, e-mail ads, plus they are offering free upgrades, low price, wifi hotspot i mean it goes on and on.
Plus there is the rumor they want to phase out the Incredible
Well, this makes me think not only is Motorola paying Verizon beaucoup bucks to be their top Droid provider, but that this phone is going to be the droid phone that Verizon pushes on everyone cheaply and fast. Cheaply and fast usually mean bad news.
NOt to mention if u want the vids the damn thing is HUGE.. I like the incredibleness's sleek small design, i want LEss weight. Sure the doird X will be a real nice huge screened media player, but it is going to be one heck of a pocket weight. Plus what is that screen going to do to the battery?
I will be getting one because my brother is going to take the Incred or the X based on which one i DONT want, but as of now, the incredible is looking better, especially with SenseUI over MotoBlah (blur).
Side by side comparison here:
Except for the noise canceling & HDMI output I don't see too much that the X has on the Inc now that we have root and froyo is inevitable... It's a bigger phone and thus a bigger screen, but the weight factor alone is what does it for me- A buddy of mine has the Evo, and at 6 grams, its heafty. I don't know how he does it. I picked it up and it felt twice as heavy as the inc (I know it's not).. For a quick idea, pick up your incredible and put your mouse ontop of it, that's about how heavy the Evo feels. Do you really want that in your pocket?
Plus, with a bigger screen and more mass behind it- it's more susceptible to damage in a fall (of which I've already dropped my Inc a few times without issue). I'm still not sold on Motorola's quality- If I had the opportunity to try it out, I would- but I would never jump in without at least a test drive...
The only thing that makes me yearn, well two things actually.
1. I live in a hollar and the 3G signal is very weak. I have a Network Extender but the Incredible battery still dies pretty quick. I know there are tweaks but I shouldn't have to tweak the phone to get a reasonable amount time out of my battery. My wifes Droid (formerly mine) last a lot longer.
2. On a related note the Droid radio was much stronger then the Incredible. I drop calls once in awhile with the Incredible while I don't think I ever dropped one with the MotoDroid unless I made a call in my house and then drove away.
I know it's huge but I didn't mind the weight of the MotoDroid at all and liked the metal case.
We'll see I guess.
balaams_ass said:
The only thing that makes me yearn, well two things actually.
1. I live in a hollar and the 3G signal is very weak. I have a Network Extender but the Incredible battery still dies pretty quick. I know there are tweaks but I shouldn't have to tweak the phone to get a reasonable amount time out of my battery. My wifes Droid (formerly mine) last a lot longer.
2. On a related note the Droid radio was much stronger then the Incredible. I drop calls once in awhile with the Incredible while I don't think I ever dropped one with the MotoDroid unless I made a call in my house and then drove away.
I know it's huge but I didn't mind the weight of the MotoDroid at all and liked the metal case.
We'll see I guess.
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Motorola historically has a stronger radio and ALWAYS has pushed the to the edge of what the FCC allows the SAR limit to be. Meaning? When you have a Motorola device close to your body (head, hip, etc) you are exposing yourself to much greater risk of cancer. This alone is reason enough for me to steer clear of Motorola devices, and their cellular devision is in MY State!
HTC is the coolest devices made in my opinion. I wouldn't have any other device (so far).
Just my 2 cents.
2 bad we cant have the samoled screens until 2012..the galaxy boasts alot but i really love the feel of the dinc.....galaxy is anothdr runner up for me 2...guess we get specs real soon
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As far as your battery life on the incredible, try the one time charging method recommended by HTC. My battery life has been 30-50% better.
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BetaMan said:
Motorola historically has a stronger radio and ALWAYS has pushed the to the edge of what the FCC allows the SAR limit to be. Meaning? When you have a Motorola device close to your body (head, hip, etc) you are exposing yourself to much greater risk of cancer. This alone is reason enough for me to steer clear of Motorola devices, and their cellular devision is in MY State!
HTC is the coolest devices made in my opinion. I wouldn't have any other device (so far).
Just my 2 cents.
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It's a myth that cell phone radiation causes cancer. Not all radiations do. You have a higher chance of getting cancer from the bio toxins produced during stress by your body than RF radiation. The media tends to hype topics they know nothing about just for ratings. Look at the platic bottle myth. Fact is there are no dioxins in plyetholine bottles (bottled water bottles). Research has actually shown that cell phone radiation helps prevent and reverse the effects of alzheimer's. It just takes a little research to not fall into the flock.
I know what you mean
I too am considering switching from Inc to X. I was sold until I read about lag/artifact issues with Motoblur. The thing that I love most about the Inc is that it runs so flawlessly. My biggest reason I traded in my N1 for the Inc was that the N1's UI was flawed (yes I know it ran on stock Android), so the idea of taking a step backward in that regard is unappealing. However, I, for one, love the idea of having a bigger screen and SWYPE, which should make texting and data input a breeze. I know the processor on the X is made my TI, but I have found the Inc's Snapdragon to be awesome, so that's not a huge factor to me. Nor is the HDMI (although it would be nice if a TV out cord would come out for the Inc, despite not being HDMI). The Inc is rooted, the but process is such a PITA that I am not going to bother with it anymore until it is simplified (this is by far the thing I miss most about the N1). Basically, the X has some small advantages, but an inferior UI. So I guess I am back where i started--unsure of which device to go with.
I really wanted a moto because of the better cell reception but ended up getting an incredible yesterday. After having an evo for 20 days or so I got tired of trying to use the device one handed (it was do-able but not comfortable for me) and wanted something that felt more like my nexus.
(the x being bigger I couldn't imagine feeling comfortable with it)
Another thing that bothered me (XD OCD I swear) was the lack of color on the screen and I'm not sure about going back to lcd because of that. Though I know it could have been just the evo's screen in this case as I don't know the exact specs on the X.
I'm not a huge fan of the Inc's radio thus far, but I firmly believe we'll see an update soon that improves it greatly. It's a hallmark of HTC phones - first version, radio sucks. Second version, radio improves a bit but something else suffers (usually battery), third version is like the three little bears, juuuuuust right
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I too am considering switching from Inc to X. I was sold until I read about lag/artifact issues with Motoblur. The thing that I love most about the Inc is that it runs so flawlessly. My biggest reason I traded in my N1 for the Inc was that the N1's UI was flawed (yes I know it ran on stock Android), so the idea of taking a step backward in that regard is unappealing. However, I, for one, love the idea of having a bigger screen and SWYPE, which should make texting and data input a breeze. I know the processor on the X is made my TI, but I have found the Inc's Snapdragon to be awesome, so that's not a huge factor to me. Nor is the HDMI (although it would be nice if a TV out cord would come out for the Inc, despite not being HDMI). The Inc is rooted, the but process is such a PITA that I am not going to bother with it anymore until it is simplified (this is by far the thing I miss most about the N1). Basically, the X has some small advantages, but an inferior UI. So I guess I am back where i started--unsure of which device to go with.
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The test videos show there is not MotoBlur on, it is actually disabled by default. All the recent test videos show straight Android with Moto widgets, no blur overlay.
I'm keeping my Inc. I'll save a little cash and watch as the Dev's really unlock the power of this little beast. Plus I'm not keen on Motoblur. I guess I'm the only one who's wondering why the Droid 2 is launching only a few months behind the X... I'll just wait a few months and see.
Actually I'm hoping that the Droid X release prompts HTC to crank out some goodies for the Incredible like a multimedia station and car dock.
Where are you HTC?
Pretty sure im going to be keeping my dinc, i do like the thought of a big screen for media viewing but i am really not to keen on buying another phone from motorola. I had the droid and had nothing but problems. What i would really like is for htc come out with a 4" screen and nice slide out qwerty like on the touch pro 2.
ehh...
Im not spending 600 dollars on a phone that's slightly better than mine sorry. Nor am I going to waste my upgrade on a the x. The inc is basically a smaller evo without the hdmi and front facing cam. I just don't see any point in switching except bragging rights. I won't lie the x looks great but I can wait.. next year is going to be crazy..lte, more 4 inch devices, and front facing cams will probably standard maybe even two ghz devices.
And hello this phone came out two months ago its not outdated.
I'll always have a soft spot in my heart for Motorola. They have made the best pure cell phones I've had (an old StarTAC analog and an e815). The radios were unparalleled, and voice quality was very good.
But the Inc is the best all-around personal computing/communication/information device I've ever owned, and it is not much bigger than those old Moto phones of yore. It's the same size as the Samsung Omnia I had previously, but has 4x the screen resolution, is a better pure phone, and has none of the lag and performance issues the Sammy had (even with custom ROMs and task managers).
It sounds (from the 2 reviews I've read) like the Droid X will continue Motorola's tradition of good phone performance. But its large size might put me off. Also, apparently the HDMI-out is not supported by most of the phone's apps. And you'll probably have to wait awhile for rooting, if you are into that sort of thing (I just rooted my Inc this evening).
I think either would be a great choice, especially if I didn't have to shell out more money for the Moto. It would probably come down to whichever one they could get me the quickest
I like my DI especially now that its rooted, but given the free chance to trade to the moto x I probably would. The droid x has a gpu, and a larger screen. Plus I like motorola, they havent had any inventory problems so the dev community would probably grow quickly. I would have to hold it in my hand to see if it was too big or not, but I think it would be nice to have the larger screen. It would use up a ton of battery but I would just buy a couple extra.
I dont think its worth an upgrade for full price but its a nice option. There will be phones with dual core chips and gpu's and whatever else all coming by the end of the year im sure. Ill wait a little bit more.
I don't really see any reason to pay another 500+ dollars for a phone that semi better than the inc. My new every 2 is up April of next year and i'm sure by then we'll have dual core CPU and maybe even 1 GB ram with a nice GPU only time can tell. Think i'm going to hold out on any new phones until next year sad to see iPhone 4 spank the inc but ill live.
No thanks. I'm very happy and have no desire for something larger. I AM looking forward to prospective updates, though.
hello guys,
i'm currently not sure about what i'm thinking, my Desire HD order will probably arrive at 15th November, and the new phone is going to be announced at the 8th... so should i cancel my order and wait for the new Samsung phone? or keep waiting??
i dont even want to wait for the releasing period for the new Samsung, which i think i may get it by December???!!!!
oh God
im in the exact situation! but this is what i plan on doing.
Keep my order, get the desire and play around with it. I'll see what Samsung announce, if it's much better and a worthy upgrade from the DHD then i'll put it up on eBay. Im sure i won't make much of a loss selling it there. Some people pay crazy money
But ultimatly what's most important to me is root, and if the devs here can't crack the DHD's protection, then i'll have little choice but to sell and get the N2.
Wren nexus one was released the phone was available the same day as the announcement. There has been talk that google will be selling it direct again this time round though I m not convinced it ll be on the same day. However, there shouldn't be long wait like DHD.
Personally I m not sure if it ll be a better phone, as I hated everything there is about Galaxy S. It ll basically be Gingerbread vs almighty DHD on Froyo, assuming HTC won't be bothered to update DHD to gingerbread any time soon. I m sticking with DHD for now unless Samsung has real trick up it's sleeve this time. I find it hard to convince myself to put up with another dreadful Galaxy S alike experience.
Sigh.. Only if HTC is more ethusiatic about it's software upgrade and Motorola is more keen about Android...
Sansung's got really nice hardware(only nice in figures) but their system craps,will think about it if it will get a none plastic-like surface and system designed by google itself.
So far the news ive read tell that in terms of hardware its not good, it will be more of a developer test machine since it brings 2.3.
I think Google is committing suicide by letting Samsung handle Nexus Two
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- 5 megapixel camera with autofocus and HD video capture, front-facing camera
- 512 MB RAM, 16 GB internal storage
- Support for multiple carriers
- All the usuals like WiFi, Bluetooth, 3.5 mm headset jack, etc.
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I had a Nexus that was stolen from me, god how i miss that phone
As a replacement i am getting the Desire HD through the insurance i had on the Nexus.
However having been on the gravy train that is Android Dev phones (G1 & Nexus one) i must say that the Desire HD doesn't seem to be a worthy upgrade from the nexus, i was pretty psyched in the beginning about the Desire HD but the more i learn about it the less it appeals to me.
The screen isn't Amoled; the touch sensor isn't unlimited like i assume it will be on the Nexus two (Galaxy S :Atmel maXtouchsensor),
The battery is not 1500mha - honestly even if the cpu is much more power efficient than the old generation cpu's why not throw in a bigger battery?
And no front facing camera which in itself isn't a deal breaker but cmon, its not like we are buying budget phones here anyways...
As already mentioned possibly only one software upgrade during it's life time which to be honest is quite average however Google Dev phones always has the latest & greatest.
Not to bash on the Desire HD, but honestly its just a EVO with a new CPU minus the frontfacing camera and kickstand.
I will most probably test out the Desire HD and and change to Nexus Two if it seems better in some of these aspects.
Evo 4G is prettier, i would change from a DHD to a Evo 4G or incredible HDin a snap if it wasnt not being able to use it in europe. Why HTC only makes good phones for the US ?! Why are we treated like **** !?
you might as well ask why did the us implement WCDMA or 4G while the rest of the world is stil 3.5G (even in Japan..i think)??
they cater to the specific market needs.
same as Japanese mobile carriers, they only produced their phones for their markets in consideration only.
which is why they are highly sought for
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Evo 4G is prettier, i would change from a DHD to a Evo 4G or incredible HDin a snap if it wasnt not being able to use it in europe. Why HTC only makes good phones for the US ?! Why are we treated like **** !?
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thats just your opinion of things
Europe get the release first for nearly all HTC phones.
the US get rebranded versions. they also get some different phones because they use rubbish CDMA technology.
people hating on the desire hd, if you own one/owned one and played with it and made the comments fair enough. until then you have no right what so ever to "review" a phone you haven't used.
i own one for over a week and i have to say its a great phone.
the phone does have root,be it temporary at the moment but things have to start from somewhere. i don't see the average user like some people here trying to obtain root, but moan and demand it.
i don't see the nexus two being an all awesome phone. the nexus one's bootloader got unlocked with 1 click because it was a development phone but it voided the warranty. how many people are going to risk that with a samsung built device?
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im in the exact situation! but this is what i plan on doing.
Keep my order, get the desire and play around with it. I'll see what Samsung announce, if it's much better and a worthy upgrade from the DHD then i'll put it up on eBay. Im sure i won't make much of a loss selling it there. Some people pay crazy money
But ultimatly what's most important to me is root, and if the devs here can't crack the DHD's protection, then i'll have little choice but to sell and get the N2.
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absolutely my thinking. I already have the DHD, but if the protection cannot be unlocked, and the specs of the "Nexus two" are OK/confirmed, I have not choice as to sell the DHD. Having had the Nexus One (and still owning it), I am no longer tolerating manufacturers lock-downs! That is a no-go for me nowadays.
Plus: I HATE the speaker on the DHD - (same XXX as on the nexus one). And I really have a bad feeling about these plastic covers on the DHD (only a matter of time until they wear out).
If the "nexus two" has a decent design and better materials (less plastic than the iphone-look-alike Galaxy S), my decision is made...
Yes that's true but im talking in terms of quality, look at the Incredible HD (desire hd for US) and look how perfect it is compared with the Desire HD
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people hating on the desire hd, if you own one/owned one and played with it and made the comments fair enough. until then you have no right what so ever to "review" a phone you haven't used.
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Review ?! What the freaking hell, im talking in terms of product Quality/Design, from every single review and comment ive read theres flaws with the design of the Desire HD, look at EVO 4G and Incredible HD they are brilliant, the EVO 4G came up before the Desire HD any decent company would grab their design and improve it, not make it more ridiculous.
Ive ordered a Desire HD since the day 2 of its announcement then amazon screwed their customers and now im waiting on handtec 3rd shipment so you cant say im a anti Desire HD... freaking fanboys are starting already...
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- 5 megapixel camera with autofocus and HD video capture, front-facing camera
- 512 MB RAM, 16 GB internal storage
- Support for multiple carriers
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512? dont think so...
DHD already has 786. and 1GB will be required for 3.x
1GB ?! :| What the hell where have you read that ?! Link please!
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i havent.
its what i would expect from it.
Hey, even Windows 7 can run on 1 gb of memory
Android 3.0 will run on lot less.
hard choise, n2 doesnt exist yet.
btw...I'd rather buy a google experience with a huge screen. actually, the only reason I didnt buy a galaxyS so far, is it's samsung software and the lack of a flash-led. DHD...I dislike how htc managed it
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people hating on the desire hd, if you own one/owned one and played with it and made the comments fair enough. until then you have no right what so ever to "review" a phone you haven't used.
i own one for over a week and i have to say its a great phone.
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I've had the DHD for 5 days and to be honest I'm underwhelmed. I have the regular Desire and the DHD isn't that big of an upgrade. I'm not saying it's a bad phone, just that it's only a little better than the Desire. except speaker is no better than the Desire, infact I find it slightly quieter. Big screen is great if that's what you want, but AMOLED on Desire is more vivid an there seems to be a little motion blur at times.
No problem with proxomity sensor or plastic covers here btw.
I'm going to sell my DHD and wait for something a bit better.
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I've had the DHD for 5 days and to be honest I'm underwhelmed. I have the regular Desire and the DHD isn't that big of an upgrade. I'm not saying it's a bad phone, just that it's only a little better than the Desire. except speaker is no better than the Desire, infact I find it slightly quieter. Big screen is great if that's what you want, but AMOLED on Desire is more vivid an there seems to be a little motion blur at times.
No problem with proxomity sensor or plastic covers here btw.
I'm going to sell my DHD and wait for something a bit better.
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OK - please share what did you expect DHD to be? Please tell me what evolutionary leap could be achieved in about six monts? And enough of the AMOLED thing! HTC are absolutely right not to put themselves dependant on one supplier that also happens to be their competitor. And when (not if) they are forced to switch to another technology, they will have to take the blame for it. Fool me once - shame on you, fool me twice - shame on me. You get bigger screen, more RAM and ROM, better camera, next gen CPU... what else can be desired in six months of evolution? 2GHz CPU? Not gonna happen! I personally would like from the phone to cook and clean, but that also woun't happen .
Been using Nexus One, near the beginning when it came out. Other than the poor speakers and the multi-touch issue, it served me well. To this date, nothing seems to be worth upgrading to. At first, LG optimus 2 seemed an ideal upgrade, but still wasn't "interesting" enough.
Watching CES, this Motrolla Atrix, has really caught my attention.
For those not up to date on it, here are some vids
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x7omSTSzl8
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=motorolla+atrix&aq=f
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/06/motorola-atrix-4g-hd-multimedia-dock-and-laptop-dock-hands-on/
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/07/nvidia-shows-off-tegra-2-gameplay-on-atrix-4g-and-optimus-2x/ EDIT *** Found it ***
Front/back facing camera, tegra 2 dual core, 1gb ram, 1930 mAh battery (WOW?!),, HSPDA+, good screen resolution. But, most importantly, that desktop app looks amazing. This is the first phone, since Nexus 1, which I felt was made to get market share rather than profit, in that, they really tried not skimping out on ANYTHING (I guess though retrospectively, HTC did on MT/speakers). I mean, the only thing I could see which could have been improved on this phone is 8MP camera instead of 5MP, but that difference is so minor imo.
I don't have the video, but it showed an nvidia zone - for apps which take advantage of tegra 2, which showed off a lot of cool multiplayer games, which you can play online against console owners (PS3/XboxLive) as well as fellow tegra-2 based mobile phones, which was neat.
This may be the phone, which I will upgrade to, when I decide to do so, or it will be an iphone 5(though never have used an iphone). Orion may be the better chip, when released, but the Nvidia zone thingy on CES sold me this over the Orion chip.
In order:
1) Motorola Atrix --- the TOP phone of CES. 1GB of Ram, 1930mAh Battery, HSPA+, Laptop dock, Dual core etc...
2) LG Optimus 2x / Droid Bionic --- HDMI mirroring is an insane ability for a phone to have, allow you to play any game emulator on a big screen TV with your phone and a wiimote
3) G-slate / Xoom tablets --- Honeycomb has tons of eye candy and looks great. Cant wait to try these out in the store.
Now while these things interest me, probably won't be enough to get me to give up my $40/mo Nexus 1
I believe the Atrix also has HDMI mirroring, correct?
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I believe the Atrix also has HDMI mirroring, correct?
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From the videos and things I read about it the Atrix doesn't have pure HDMI mirroring by just plugging in a cable. I could easily be wrong though since theres not even an official review. I hope I'm wrong
Disappointed by HTC. Same old processor and battery improvement only slightly.
I agree that Motorola Atrix is the best phone so far, followed closely by the LG Optimus 2x and then the Samsung Infuse.
Why god did you make the Atrix on AT&T?
I been running my n1 on ATT so when I saw MOTO atrix I was all giddy. This is a monster. I think I will trade my n1 for that. But that's if I can pry off my n1 out of my hands. It will be tough but clearly its the best phone that can replace my n1. I am just glad I never used my upgrade on a iPhone. Lol. So so happy. I guess I now have to stay with ATT.
Oh yeah laptop dock and the application is so sick.
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Oddly enough, the Sony Experia Arc. It like the UI and the design of it.
I really want to see the LG Optimus Black's display.
Honeycomb's UI looks pretty exciting and the tablets actually look good. Can't wait to try out a tablet that doesn't scream, "Giant Smartphone!"
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1) Motorola Atrix --- the TOP phone of CES. 1GB of Ram, 1930mAh Battery, HSPA+, Laptop dock, Dual core etc...
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Totally agree and since I have been using an AT&T Nexus this is perfect.
The screen is bigger than Nexus 4" vice 3.7", but the Atrix phone is smaller and thinner and a few grams heavier than the Nexus
Like the three docks but wish it had the docking pins like the Nexus
Overall I can't wait to get my hands on it.
Edit: wish it was LTE compatible, seems that is going to be a weak point for this phone.
This sucks I am really looking forward to something that is decent on tmo.. I love my bill with tmo and am just looking for something decent which we all knew the "S" wasn't. CES has not had anything that looks good for tmo yet.. besides tablets..
Some key differences between the Atrix and the 2X that noone has been talking about yet is the better quality cameras on the 2X. The back camera is an 8mp and personally I miss my 8mp smartphones. I haven't had one since I traded my Omnia HD for my beloved N1. Also the 2X has a 1.3mp front cam which is the least amount of megapixels I'd accept if I were to do video calling in any kind of frequent capacity. Now on the Atrix side, they have obviously the webtop and desktop applications, but also it has an amazing screen resolution of 540X960, comparable to the 640X960 retina display of the iphone. My only take away from the Atrix is the front camera only being a simple vga cam, that couldn't possibly look good on the other side. When it comes down to me personally, they both offer what I want at the core, the Tegra 2. So my decision will be made up by which one will work once I snatch it away to use on T-mobile's 4G network.
Sent using my N1, rooted. w/ HTC Sense.
This is a big thumbs up and the main reson I was holding out for a new phone. Just can't wait until the rest of the dual cores come out. Now I know for sure that Google released a dead duck with the nexus s compared to the Motorola. The spec makes it a monster and a true upgrade.
who said it's not LTE compatible? everything I see says atrix 4g?
How hard is it going to be to load ROMs on this moto? I don't follow the moto forums at all, but doesn't moto go to great lengths to lock their stuff down?
This is for AT&T and has motoblur, I have tmob so looks like I am still stuck with the Nexus One
Motorola xoom was the highlight. Smartphones didn't impress me much. I'm happy with the nexus one.
But the xoom tablet won me as soon as I could see those tron style astethics.
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Xoom is pure amazingness in my opinion... finally a tablet that looks futuristic and fun to play with... the iphone is so bland and has no compatibility, i feel like it is completely disconnected from the world and all the new tabs like the GS tabs (played with one at tmobile) feel just like an enlarged version of my nexus or an ipad wannabe... yuck
the Atrix literally made my jaw hit the floor... those docking capabilities are EXACTLY what i want my phone to be able to do... I think i said in another thread (n1 end of life thread?) about how i would like to dock my phone up and turn it into my pc... granted not play super intensive games like my desktop currently does but give me the feel that i always have my computer at the palm of my hands... and the laptop dock looked sick too, i wonder how much that puppy is going to cost haha
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Some key differences between the Atrix and the 2X that noone has been talking about yet is the better quality cameras on the 2X. The back camera is an 8mp and personally I miss my 8mp smartphones. I haven't had one since I traded my Omnia HD for my beloved N1. Also the 2X has a 1.3mp front cam which is the least amount of megapixels I'd accept if I were to do video calling in any kind of frequent capacity. Now on the Atrix side, they have obviously the webtop and desktop applications, but also it has an amazing screen resolution of 540X960, comparable to the 640X960 retina display of the iphone. My only take away from the Atrix is the front camera only being a simple vga cam, that couldn't possibly look good on the other side. When it comes down to me personally, they both offer what I want at the core, the Tegra 2. So my decision will be made up by which one will work once I snatch it away to use on T-mobile's 4G network.
Sent using my N1, rooted. w/ HTC Sense.
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VGA front cam is not too bad, for videos at least. Aren't DVD movies at VGA resolution? DVD movies look great on old TVs. I'm pretty sure it will look fine on a 4" screen. I hope...
the news that got me pretty excited is samsung's new super amoled plus screen. the pentile pixels are gone! pixels go from 8 on the old S-AMOLED up to 12 on S-AMOLED plus. pure awesomeness sharp text.
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Some key differences between the Atrix and the 2X that noone has been talking about yet is the better quality cameras on the 2X. The back camera is an 8mp and personally I miss my 8mp smartphones. I haven't had one since I traded my Omnia HD for my beloved N1. Also the 2X has a 1.3mp front cam which is the least amount of megapixels I'd accept if I were to do video calling in any kind of frequent capacity. Now on the Atrix side, they have obviously the webtop and desktop applications, but also it has an amazing screen resolution of 540X960, comparable to the 640X960 retina display of the iphone. My only take away from the Atrix is the front camera only being a simple vga cam, that couldn't possibly look good on the other side. When it comes down to me personally, they both offer what I want at the core, the Tegra 2. So my decision will be made up by which one will work once I snatch it away to use on T-mobile's 4G network.
Sent using my N1, rooted. w/ HTC Sense.
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You're wrong on your strict assumptions. I have both a EVO 4G + iPhone 4 (as well as a N1). The EVO has a 8MP + 1.x MP FFC and the iPhone has 5MP + VGA. Simply put, the iPhone takes much better photos for both the front and back. The front facing cam is especially better, the EVO seems to have a really poor sensor for the FFC -- so MP != quality. Of course this doesn't mean that the Atrix cams are better but it's something to wait on before making assumptions.
To me the Atrix wins by a land slide. Better resolution, probably double the RAM, double the internal storage, plus a battery that's about 25% bigger. It's also HSPA+ and AT&T recently announced that they've already upgraded their entire 3G network to HSPA+. But it seems like you are stuck with T-Mo so you shouldn't even be looking at the Atrix anyway.
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who said it's not LTE compatible? everything I see says atrix 4g?
How hard is it going to be to load ROMs on this moto? I don't follow the moto forums at all, but doesn't moto go to great lengths to lock their stuff down?
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Atrix is HSPA+.
Which would you get? Both are supposed to come out October 26th. Both have Gingerbread. Amaze has Sense 3.5, SGSII has TWIZ. Almost all the specs are same. The main difference I see is that the Amaze has a 1.5 dual core processor. The SGSII has been listed on some sites with 1.2 and on others with 1.5. If it is 1.2, I think the Amaze may be my choice.
The Amaze would also be my choice since Samsung has waited so long to release the GSII here, and they've refused to acknowledged the GPS issue with the Vibrant. I think my "never again" protest will be to actually never again purchase a Samsung product. Or at least not this time around.
I also don't like the 4.5" screen size that the SGSII for T-Mo is coming with. AT&T seems to be the only US carrier with enough sense in their heads to keep it at 4.3". Is the Amaze also supposed to be 4.5" of over-sized ridiculousness?
The issue isn't really the screen size, IMO. The issue is the screen resolution. They are increasing sizes to epic proportions, but not increasing the resolution which degrades video on the screen compared to 4-4.3" devices. 4.3" @ WVGA is already borderline for me. I require qHD for a 4.5-4.7" screen. It's just that simple. The phoen can be the hottest thing since sliced bread, but the screen is what I look at all the time I look at it. Vibrant colors aren't enough anymore. Need a better PPI.
If I had a choice, and if the Amaze does have 16GB internal storage... It's pretty much a no brainer. Amaze it is.
Only thing I don't like is that HTC Sense has become cluttered as **** lately. I used my Mom's inspire and got knocked the **** out when I long pressed on the home screen. There was so much crap there...
4.3-inch qHD display, a dual-core 1.5GHz processor, an 8-megapixel camera, 2 MP FFC, 16GB of storage, 1GB of RAM and HSPA+ 42 are specs for the HTC Amaze
Droidificator said:
The Amaze would also be my choice since Samsung has waited so long to release the GSII here, and they've refused to acknowledged the GPS issue with the Vibrant. I think my "never again" protest will be to actually never again purchase a Samsung product. Or at least not this time around.
I also don't like the 4.5" screen size that the SGSII for T-Mo is coming with. AT&T seems to be the only US carrier with enough sense in their heads to keep it at 4.3". Is the Amaze also supposed to be 4.5" of over-sized ridiculousness?
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OMG, yea.. that .2" is the deal breaker for me! Especially considering that is measured diagonally! That is like .1" in each direction! And yes.. that is sarcasm. I don't think that .2" should be a defining characteristic to anyone unless the device itself gets significantly bigger than that as a whole.
I am not sure that this is the same on all devices(phones, tablets, pc/macs) but I am pretty sure THIS "--" is longer than .2". If you don't believe me, go find a ruler or tape measure, or I am pretty sure there is an app for that.. .2" is nothing.
Anyways, THAT aside.. I will agree to an extent that as screen size gets bigger, so should the resolution or ppi.. but then again it would have to significantly increase in size before you notice any degradation in quality. Yes, the iPhone has its "whatever the hell it's called" display(too tired lazy to remember/look it up), and MAYBE it is noticeable compared to devices like the vibrant.. but increasing to a 4.5" device isn't going to be a huge downgrade by far.
Besides, I haven't even considered the HTC amaze 4g.. why? I haven't heard it is coming to t-mobile(pretty sure it isn't..). I am not going to switch carriers for a phone.. the phone I buy is based on the carriers, what they offer, and the prices.. so is it coming for tmo? If not, than what reason do you have to switch to their carrier BESIDES the phone?
/rant. Too tired for this anyways.
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4.3-inch qHD display, a dual-core 1.5GHz processor, an 8-megapixel camera, 2 MP FFC, 16GB of storage, 1GB of RAM and HSPA+ 42 are specs for the HTC Amaze
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Aren't all of those the same specs the same that the prime is supposed to have, except for a 5mp camera(with a better sensor instead)? Except it will have ice cream sandwich? Haven't we learned anything from our vibrants? Buy a device that is either truly superior, or starts off with a better software upgrade.. I would rather have something that will software-wise be superior and equal or better hardware wise..
Not sure why my distaste for 4.5" displays twisted your panties so tightly, but have you ever held a phone that size in your hand? I have, and it wasn't comfortable. I'm not all that fond of the 4.3" size either, but its a little less of an adjustment to get used to, since I know several people with phones that size and have had a chance to compare them to my Vibrant. Rant about factual errors all you like; keep your rants about other people's preferences between your ears (doing that also has the added benefit of making it less obvious there's plenty of room there for rants to knock around).
The Amaze was called Ruby during development, if I'm not mistaken, and yes, its coming to T-Mo. So start thinking about it.
Sent from my rough sketch of a Vibrant on a brick.
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If these are accurate, this will be my next phone... if I can keep myself from buying a Sensation, that is.
Sent from my rough sketch of a Vibrant on a brick.
ill be buying a hercules!!
And having fun at #NeverAgain 2.0 after they release the Galaxy S 2.5 4-5 months later for forget about your T-Mobile model that has different hardware components from basically all the other variants?
AT&T are setting themselves up good with their model. They're sticking pretty close to the international variant there...
Based on the HD recording abilities, the Amaze is looking pretty nice.
Both phones are officially coming out on October 12th, pre-sale online/phone on the 10th. Amaze is $259 after rebate, galaxy S II is $229.
Price difference aside... I have no idea which I'm going to buy yet. I really like my Vibrant and wouldn't really hesitate to buy another Samsung device. On the other side, I like the screen resolution on the Amaze.
I like the fact that Cyanogen works at Samsung now, and how quickly Samsung has been with releasing source for their Galaxy S II phones (although not the T-Mobile variant yet from what I can tell).
I haven't had experience with HTC since the G1, are they as good at modding as the Samsung devices right now?
Amaze. It's an HTC and the specs are literally identical except the Amaze has a qHD 4.3" SLCD Screen vs. 4.52" WVGA SAMOLED+ and the Amaze has a superior camera.
Gonna have to go with the Amaze 4G, provided I even decide to waste another Year+ with T-Mobile.
However, it's rumored that the Galaxy SII has support for AT&T UMTS/HSPA+ Bands, as well.
If that's the case, I'll get the GSII and ETF after a month and move to AT&T, since T-Mobile has less bloatware they put on their devices... Only two GSM Carriers here so a T-Mobile phoen with all brands is as good as an Unlocked, Unbranded device...
If the Amaze 4G has those bands as well, then it's a blow-out. There's also the possibility to just get a Cheap Atrix 4G and call it a day. With the updates those run decently now.
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Which would you get? Both are supposed to come out October 26th. Both have Gingerbread. Amaze has Sense 3.5, SGSII has TWIZ. Almost all the specs are same. The main difference I see is that the Amaze has a 1.5 dual core processor. The SGSII has been listed on some sites with 1.2 and on others with 1.5. If it is 1.2, I think the Amaze may be my choice.
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The correct CPU is 1.5 Ghz Dual Core Qualcomm, which is basically the same on both the Galaxy S2 and Amaze
many of those blog sites are waaaaaaaay outdated
I'll go for the Galaxy S2 (hercules) for the SAMOLED+ screen, the Amaze uses sLCD
other than that, both phone are almost identical
with minal difference in the battery the Hercules has 1850mAh can be upgraded to 2000 mAh (original by samsung) without changing battery cover, Amaze is 1730 (less juice)
more amaze details here http://htc.t-mobile.com/amaze-camera-phone
personally i'm going for the Galaxy S2 (hercules)
So which is better? AMOLED plus or the LCD Screen? Both appear to have 1080 HD recording, but does the Amaze have better picture taking abilities? Finally, the Galaxy S II isn't listed as having NFC in its specs on the t-mobile website.
http://galaxy-s.t-mobile.com/samsung-galaxy-s2
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The correct CPU is 1.5 Ghz Dual Core Qualcomm, which is basically the same on both the Galaxy S2 and Amaze
many of those blog sites are waaaaaaaay outdated
I'll go for the Galaxy S2 (hercules) for the SAMOLED+ screen, the Amaze uses sLCD
other than that, both phone are almost identical
with minal difference in the battery the Hercules has 1850mAh can be upgraded to 2000 mAh (original by samsung) without changing battery cover, Amaze is 1730 (less juice)
more amaze details here http://htc.t-mobile.com/amaze-camera-phone
personally i'm going for the Galaxy S2 (hercules)
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HTC needs to stick with the people who made the Droid incredible 2 super lcd screen. Those displays are spectacular. I don't think I'll be going with the amaze 4g. Sense is nice the amaze has 3.5 sense no idea what's the difference between 3.0 and 3.5. I know partially that sense 3.5 doesn't have hardware limitations. Besides the screen size and the UI overlays the phones are the essentially the same. I'm still going for this phone so tired of HTC's hit and misses on phones.
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I agree the Amaze 4G is clearly a better phone but why is it SO FAT and heavy! Look at its dimensions...nearly a small brick in fatness and it weighs 176g without any sort of sliding keyboard or anything. It's weight is not even in battery as the battery is a 1730mah or 1750mah...not even the 1850mah that the Hercules has.
I'm a little dissappoint in the physical design on the phone. Wish Samsung would have crammed a 720p screen on the Hercules and then we would not even be talking about this. Sigh.
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So which is better? AMOLED plus or the LCD Screen? Both appear to have 1080 HD recording, but does the Amaze have better picture taking abilities? Finally, the Galaxy S II isn't listed as having NFC in its specs on the t-mobile website.
http://galaxy-s.t-mobile.com/samsung-galaxy-s2
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wait....
you are mixing up 2 things
SAMOLED+ vs. sLCD screens has nothing to do with 1080p Video Recording
a screen it's just a screen its function is only to display stuff, not record
the recording part is done by the camera and the video encoding chip inside the phone
as for the NFC it's part there it has been shown here, but it might or might not be right
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Galaxy-S-II-T-Mobile_id5541
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/17/unannounced-samsung-hercules-headed-to-t-mobile-bearing-godli/
HTC Amaze 4g
Hercules FTW
Hercules is better lower res means more speed bigger battery more use an upgradeable to 2000 an Samoled + an nice design an the have a better layout
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Both phones are officially coming out on October 12th, pre-sale online/phone on the 10th. Amaze is $259 after rebate, galaxy S II is $229.
Price difference aside... I have no idea which I'm going to buy yet. I really like my Vibrant and wouldn't really hesitate to buy another Samsung device. On the other side, I like the screen resolution on the Amaze.
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TBH - most of the reviews I've seen about the Sensation/Amaze screen state that they are inferior to the SGSII - regardless of the resolution. LCD is simply an inferior technology.
Sick of reading the prophets of doom and naysayers saying "fail,fail" you've made your point so i guess you wont be buying one then therefore you most likely won't be sticking around these forums then eh!!
This thread is for positive comments only, i for one am delighted with this release it is pretty much what i expected to be honest with a few added surprises, the early review from the Tech Radar website is very positive indeed and i am looking forward to getting this superb phone although it will be a wrench to sell my SGSII but ill have to do so to part fund buying the Galaxy S3,
I am looking forward to the USA announcement and hope they don't change it too much from the international version.
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The Galaxy S III will be nice for someone who is ok with getting uninspired upgrades from last years model and don't care about the negatives such as:
- battery (not 2500mAh like the Note?)
- camera (still the same 8mp camera as the 12 month old SII?)
- screen (same screen as the 6 month old Galaxy Nexus?)
- UI (touchwiz + hardware keys)
- Design (yuck)
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The Galaxy S III will be nice for someone who is ok with getting uninspired upgrades from last years model and don't care about the:
- battery fail (not 2500mAh like the Note?)
- camera fail (still the same 8mp camera as the 12 month old SII?)
- screen fail (same screen as the 6 month old Galaxy Nexus?)
- UI fail (touchwiz + hardware keys)
- Design fail (yuck)
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what part of my OP did you not understand take your poxy negativity off this thread and go elsewhere ok
well u must admit the design of a phone really influences ones purchase of said phone. the sgs 3 design really looks bad which is (as i see it) the main reason why a lot of people are so disappointed.
however i think i will still be upgrading to the sgs 3 from my sgs 2. the new hardware + better batter is enough to justify my purchase of the sgs 3. though im pretty sure it wont last me as long as the sgs 2 did which i bought at launch.
They MIGHT change the design for the US, and include an S4 processor for even more battery life!
Definitely an upgrade from the nexus: bigger battery, removable storage and a physical home button (always hit the capacitive home button when pressing space bar).
Hopefully they'll pop in a beastly S4 snapdragon and this comes to Verizon in early June!
I honestly don't believe many people will have a positive thing to say. It's not a very revolutionary phone as the S2 was. The US version will be a S4 snapdragon most likely, I just wish there was a Exynos 5 dual model. Then I may actually get it.
diehard2222 said:
well u must admit the design of a phone really influences ones purchase of said phone. the sgs 3 design really looks bad which is (as i see it) the main reason why a lot of people are so disappointed.
however i think i will still be upgrading to the sgs 3 from my sgs 2. the new hardware + better batter is enough to justify my purchase of the sgs 3. though im pretty sure it wont last me as long as the sgs 2 did which i bought at launch.
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Ive no problem with the design and personally speaking it wouldn't be a deal breaker for me but each to their own, the 2,100 mAh battery is a big improvement on the current SGSII and that can only be very good news.
Early reviews on various websites are very good indeed, to be honest some people will never be happy and will always find time to complain that is just what some people are like i suppose that is no problem just not on this thread please.
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The Galaxy S III will be nice for someone who is ok with getting uninspired upgrades from last years model and don't care about the negatives such as:
- battery (not 2500mAh like the Note?)
- camera (still the same 8mp camera as the 12 month old SII?)
- screen (same screen as the 6 month old Galaxy Nexus?)
- UI (touchwiz + hardware keys)
- Design (yuck)
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Jesus, how can anyone say 2100 is a fail when it's one of the best on the market except for the 5.3" note ?
I'm also pissed off about these trolls I mean it isn't anything else it's just blatant off topic trolling, I think I will pm some moderators
Personnally I ike the design and as I said in another thread, from the few videos I've seen it just feels soo responsive and smooth, can't wait for june to get my hands on mine
So,
It's ok for you to troll the 'negative' threads with your 'positive' comments,
But not vice-versa?
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I really really like the design. It's appealing to me.
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To put it shortly: What a totally freaking awesome phone
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You guys should know by now that whenever a new phone is released. Xda is the place to read all negative aspects of a new device and see pages full of "fail" this and that. Just come back when development starts happening because that's when the trolls are usually gone. For now, I'm going to other forums for discussions.
Btw, if a battery with 2100 mah is horrible, then you loose all credibility. This is the Galaxy S III not the Galaxy Note II.
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So,
It's ok for you to troll the 'negative' threads with your 'positive' comments,
But not vice-versa?
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who is trolling, you ****ing are.
I will be getting in touch with moderators if this continues
these are the positives things one can say about the sgs3 compared to the sgs2 for now.
1 - 720p screen with slightly less saturated colours than previous super amoled screens.
2 - 60% faster gpu
3 - 2100 mha battery.
4 - various software improvements especially to the camera though some not all are a bit gimmicky.
5 - hardware buttons. (i like hardware buttons)
6 - quad core processor.
7 - bluetooth 4.0
8 - up to 64 gigs of internal memory
maybe someone can say more?
the only positive thing about the S3 are its new core apps, i dig them all
stock battery choice is way good vs Nexus Galaxy
Design is in fact the only negative thing I have to say about the S3. I don't mind the plastic feel, the non SAMOLED+ screen (it's HD, I know I won't tell the difference), the fact that it's quad-core or that it's the same awesome 8MP camera (again, more MP does not equal better). In fact, this phone, though only an incremental upgrade over SII, is pretty much everything I was looking for when I heard about the Galaxy Nexus; I was disappointed by the GNex's 5MP camera (needed one to replace my old 8MP point-and-shoot) and non-expandable memory, so I opted for AT&T's cheaper OG SII. The SIII fulfills everything I was initially looking for and adds more. I even like the bigger HD screen. What I don't like is the bigger housing. I think software buttons would have made this my really-want phone, simply because my SII is already a little cumbersome in my pocket with its case (I dare not take off that case, I'm too clumsy). Case is an essential for me regardless of which phone I buy, so as much as I want this phone, it's just too big for practicality for me.
....even then, if I had a contract upgrade (which I don't :/) and AT&T offers it later, so long as they don't royally screw the specs I would seriously consider it, because as I stated before, it's everything I was looking for when I bought my SII: large HD beautiful screen, fast processor, 1 GB ram, expandable memory, awesome camera (annoying shutter lag on SII, so I'm looking forward to SIII), and great battery life (which of course, remains to be seen).
no big things to worth the money, ill skip this gen
S2 does the trick for the next years
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diehard2222 said:
these are the positives things one can say about the sgs3 compared to the sgs2 for now.
1 - 720p screen with slightly less saturated colours than previous super amoled screens.
2 - 60% faster gpu
3 - 2100 mha battery.
4 - various software improvements especially to the camera though some not all are a bit gimmicky.
5 - hardware buttons. (i like hardware buttons)
6 - quad core processor.
7 - bluetooth 4.0
8 - up to 64 gigs of internal memory
maybe someone can say more?
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Indeed asides from the obvious quad core processor,etc the larger capacity battery is a massive plus, battery life is very important for me personally, it took me a good while and many many tweaks to achieve good battery life from my SGSII mostly by freezing all the Samsung bloatware in Titanium backup and ill most likely be doing the same with the Galaxy S3, 64GB of memory with the option of a 64GB Micro SD card too is superb.