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Is she trying to sell me something or is it true?
No need for data plan. Not required unless your getting it for 599
So wifi will work? No need to connect to Verizon network or something first to activate it?
edit: I know the question sounds silly, but I don't want to book a flight back to the US to enable Wifi
I was in a similar situation concerning flight back, but there is no need in it.
No data plan required, Wi-Fi works just fine
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Dont buy anything from BestBuy. They employ mostly idiots that dont have a friggin clue. I mostly have to go in there in a pinch for a cable and end up teaching them a thing or two about their own products.
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So wifi will work? No need to connect to Verizon network or something first to activate it?
edit: I know the question sounds silly, but I don't want to book a flight back to the US to enable Wifi
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It works just fine without activation.
Ok don't take this for %100 fact, but here is my two cents. If the Xoom is anything like the Galaxy Tab for Verizon this should be pretty accurate. I just sold my Galaxy Tab last night to a friend, I did a hard reset to get all my stuff off the device prior to giving it to him and when it booted back up I had to "activate" the device before I could use it again. In other words, you select a language and from there it takes you to a screen to activate the Tab, and unless you can connect to Verizons network (aka: pay them for a data subscription) you cannot activate the device or progress past this screen to actually use the tab. It is essentially a worthless device until this is complete. I had to call Verizon and have them hook the service back up to the device for literally less than 1 minute so I could activate it and then have them turn it back off right away. They will charge you for a full day of service of course, $1.16 to be exact. I made them credit it back to my acct however. No way I am paying a dollar something for 30 seconds of service just so I can sell it. I had read a statement from Verizon that they won't make you pay any charges if you purchase a Xoom there without getting a plan with it, but Best Buy may still be doing it. Sorry for the long post, hope it helped.
I got mine from Best Buy last Friday (had some gift cards to use up)...no Verizon activation...the tablet and wifi works just fine.
The girl you spoke with had no idea what she was talking about.
Activation is not required on a full-price Xoom, even at VZW. When the activation screen pops up on the first boot, there is a button to skip it, and WiFi will work with no problem.
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I also had to reset it while unlocking bootloader. Could not remember if there was an activation prompt, but in case it was there, it was successfully skipped and WiFi still works
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Activation is not required on a full-price Xoom, even at VZW. When the activation screen pops up on the first boot, there is a button to skip it, and WiFi will work with no problem.
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So I'm not mistaking, it was there so I skipped it
No Activation required. Verizon even announced it the evening before launch that they were no longer requiring it (assuming you buy at full price of course). This affects all retail locations, Best Buy, Costco, VZW stores, etc...The Best Buy girl is ill-informed. Skip the activation screen upon start up and the Xoom boots normally with full wifi functionality.
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2 things stand out here:
1. best buy employee - if they really knew what they were talking about, they would have better jobs
2. it's a girl - is an explanation really necessary?
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Dont buy anything from BestBuy. They employ mostly idiots that dont have a friggin clue. I mostly have to go in there in a pinch for a cable and end up teaching them a thing or two about their own products.
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Lol, that's what I do about 90% of the time when in BB. But when I got my Xoom, the lady at the mobile section was actually knowledgeable about Xoom.
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Lie. I mean, she might not be able to sell you one without a data plan cause of store policy but there's no technical reason. Initial startup has a wifi option. Also, both Verizon and Motorola have officially stated you do not need to sign up.
Another reason is that they most likely get a commission when they sell you a contract so of course they are trying to push it.
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Before the Xoom launch, it had been required, but a few days before the official launch a memo was circulated that that requirement had been done away with. Maybe she didn't get the company-wide memo or read it.
Also, BestBuy is only selling it for $799 outright. They will not be doing the $599 with data plan deal like the Verizon stores are doing. Off contract pricing only.
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Another reason is that they most likely get a commission when they sell you a contract so of course they are trying to push it.
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No, they don't get commissions. BBY does not pay commissions. Also products like tablets have been moved from the Mobile dept to the Computer dept, and the compter salespeople definitely are not paid commission, only hourly.
Someone was just not informed or didn't know their job properly or read up on the Xoom playbook launch memo. It happens.
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Ok don't take this for %100 fact, but here is my two cents. If the Xoom is anything like the Galaxy Tab for Verizon this should be pretty accurate. I just sold my Galaxy Tab last night to a friend, I did a hard reset to get all my stuff off the device prior to giving it to him and when it booted back up I had to "activate" the device before I could use it again. In other words, you select a language and from there it takes you to a screen to activate the Tab, and unless you can connect to Verizons network (aka: pay them for a data subscription) you cannot activate the device or progress past this screen to actually use the tab. It is essentially a worthless device until this is complete. I had to call Verizon and have them hook the service back up to the device for literally less than 1 minute so I could activate it and then have them turn it back off right away. They will charge you for a full day of service of course, $1.16 to be exact. I made them credit it back to my acct however. No way I am paying a dollar something for 30 seconds of service just so I can sell it. I had read a statement from Verizon that they won't make you pay any charges if you purchase a Xoom there without getting a plan with it, but Best Buy may still be doing it. Sorry for the long post, hope it helped.
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There is a bypass for the samsung also, but on the xoom you just select activate on wifi. No need for service.
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Before the Xoom launch, it had been required, but a few days before the official launch a memo was circulated that that requirement had been done away with. Maybe she didn't get the company-wide memo or read it.
Also, BestBuy is only selling it for $799 outright. They will not be doing the $599 with data plan deal like the Verizon stores are doing. Off contract pricing only.
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Not entirely true. I was able to get my xoom for $599 with a contract from best buy. They just had to price match it.
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I got a nice SMS on March 18th from AT&T saying "An eligible data plan is required for Laptop, Tablet or MiFi devices. Call 611 as soon as possible for details and to avoid service interruption"
We are on 20th and I have no dtaa connection anymore
I happen to be paying the most expensive plan for my device (Coming from TP2), with an extra to have Exchange emails (Yeah can you believe you are charged extra for Exchange emails) and now.... I would have to pay even more because I use my SIUM in my tablet. WTF...
Maybe it's just me but if some of you have the same issue and found a workaround... Or maybe I should just step away from AT&T... F them...
Edit: Just got an SMS "Your data service has been restricted due to SIM swapping with a data Connect device". I pay 150$ a month for my data plan, calsl, etc... How much is not enough ????
I got the same thing. AT&T is now doing the same thing T-Mobile is doing. You cannot put a T-Mobile phone SIM in a T-Mobile tab, and, now, you cannot put an AT&T phone SIM (for example one with an unlimited data plan attached to it) into an AT&T tab.
It's all robbery.
My reaction to the text I got from AT&T was to erase, wipe, and flash my AT&T Galaxy Tab to Overcome 1.3.0, and then put my T-Mobile phone SIM into my AT&T Tab. Ha! THAT at least still works, since the two companies are separate.
And now, AT&T just bought T-Mobile! HA
Looks like after all the effort, I lose.
I am SO DONE with tablets and smartphones. Back to laptops and WiFi. The monopolies here in the U.S. are unbearable. And our government does nothing. No wonder the rest of the world hates us - we hate ourselves!
I got AT&T on the phone
The guy first explained me that technically tablets and phone cannot connect teh same way, etc, etc... So I asked him to stop the Bs#it because technically it was possible for 3 months... The guy I had on the phone was polite and pretty embarrassed...
I was straight forward explaining I don't mind paying for an extra tethering plan if that's what they want but I just want to carry around only ONE device, etc, etc... In the end he was very clear: they want us to use our tablet with a different plant and different SIM card. period
Now... for me it's clear they saw the IMEI of my device was different from the one I used to have so this + the fact I used a lot of Data may have triggered the detection... Or it is in the access point we use... But anyway/anyhow there is no way we cannot make our tablets appear as a Galaxy S or whatever other phone. Aside from the screen too much of the Hardware is similar to a phone not to be able to do something about it...
Meanwhile my data plan is frozen
I am SO pissed off. I can't believe I leave these guys 150$ a month and they can't even provide a decent service...
The worst: if I take a specific plan for my tab and trim down my phone plan it will cost me less
They are just F&*%#@ dumb and a terrible pain in the ass
Now let's work to "disguise" our Tab as a phone for AT&T connection...
I still think it has a lot to do with the Acces point setup... Or just the tethering... They guy on the phone was (maybe deliberately or not...) confusing about what was allowed and what was not... he was kind of implying that even if I get a tethering plan, tethering from my phone to my Tab would still be an issue if I don't use some kind of AT&T official tethering Software... (Weird...)
I am SO pissed off
I am thinking and if I go for the tethering plan I really don't see under which stupid claim they can block me... Sue it will cost more, but whatever...
Still this is justa shame
More AT&T fun I see.
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More AT&T fun I see.
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Yes... Teh problem is since they try to avoid users going around their stuff it is not even easy to understand what is allowed or not. Initially i brought a phone from abroad and was told I could use it on an illimited data plan... Fine. But now the guy on the phoen didnt even wnated to be clear whether I could use a non AT&T phone for my plan (So we're not even talking about the tab)
I think they may be targeting heavy users that dont show the same IMEIR as the one they registered. Or soemthign else.. probably can detect by the protocols used that we are not technically ona phone (But hey technically, aside teh screen tehre is no major difference betweena Galaxy tab and a Galaxy phone...)
They are targeting unlimited data plan users who are sim swapping. If you're on the 2gb or tethering 4gb plan you shouldn't see anything. People were putting their sims into laptops/netbooks and going nuts. It breaches the agreement with AT&T and they have the right to change your plan if you don't reply to them or stop sim swapping.
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They are targeting unlimited data plan users who are sim swapping. If you're on the 2gb or tethering 4gb plan you shouldn't see anything. People were putting their sims into laptops/netbooks and going nuts. It breaches the agreement with AT&T and they have the right to change your plan if you don't reply to them or stop sim swapping.
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I am not using it in a laptop but in my Tab. I use my Tab as my main phone and I ma pretty pissed off that AT&T decides which phone they like and don't like. It's not EVEN about the money: I proposed them to pay for a tethering plan (which would be stealing from me but whatever) and they do not even care
I would not even mind going for the 4Gb plan but that would mean giving up on voice services on my tab, ie would have to carry around two devices which i definitely do not want
Going the 4Gb plan + stripping down my phone to the cheapest plan AT&T has, would cost me less than I pay now... So it's not even a money issue. I am completely pissed off since I a ready to pay whatever they want but they do not seem to care
Anyway it's fine. They managed to kill the GTab and all other 7" tablets to come
They nearly succeeded by originally forbidding calls on it. They succeeded with this last measure
It was for me the perfect size between a phone and an iPad. If I cannot have Voice + illimited data on it I will just go for a large 4.3" phone
Thank you AT&T for killing progress and congratulation for displeasing customers who were actually ready to pay (Because in actual facts I was ready to pay more if it is what they wanted from me)
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Anyway it's fine. They managed to kill the GTab and all other 7" tablets to come
They nearly succeeded by originally forbidding calls on it. They succeeded with this last measure
It was for me the perfect size between a phone and an iPad. If I cannot have Voice + illimited data on it I will just go for a large 4.3" phone
Thank you AT&T for killing progress and congratulation for displeasing customers who were actually ready to pay (Because in actual facts I was ready to pay more if it is what they wanted from me)
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I'm in the same boat, Alcibiade. Never tether, just like the phone and tablet in one device.
Just got off the phone with our friends at AT&T and got the same message. Unfortunately, there is no 4GB plan for data devices like the Tab, just "phones". So I'm stuck with carrying a phone and a Tab until we figure out a way around this issue.
I got the same message from at&t too. I think the only workaround to this is to get the telstra or the other canadian tab that uses the 850 band. Anyone with the telstra tab want to do a trade for a like new at&t tab?
Believe me it pisses me off too, and I work there. lol
I'm planning on getting a GTab and was going to use it for voice occasionally so it kinda throws a kink in the works. I have the 4gb tethering plan. I really just want to be able to jump right on the Tab and use it without kicking the hotspot on so I'll just end up going down to the 2gb plan for my Atrix and the 2gb plan for the Tab. I wanted to carry one device when I wanted to, but I love my Atrix so I'm not sure how often I would do it anyway.
I believe AT&T doing the same as T-mobile by look up the IMEI. The IMEI database will match the phone you use. The only workaround is change the IMEI on the tab.
You will see the TAB Icon under your att account but I did not see that months ago....
Currently on the phone with att about the same issue...thing is im using an htc desire from telus...im not swapping my simcard with anything at all. They are saying my device is coming up as a telemetry unit which is therefore making the assumption of sim swapping. On the phone for an hour now and the geniuses still cant figure out how to fix the issue.
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I believe AT&T doing the same as T-mobile by look up the IMEI. The IMEI database will match the phone you use. The only workaround is change the IMEI on the tab.
You will see the TAB Icon under your att account but I did not see that months ago....
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Not sure it's through the IMEI. How do they do if I use a foreign phone ? If it is that simple, we all know how to find a solution...
I hope they do not make me PAY for my data plan while I they block it, I would be even more pissed off
One point I do not get: if I pay for a Tethering plan (Which I don't but am considering if it can help), why the hell would they block me from using my plan the way I want. Illimited + tethering --> I use it on my tab or anything else doesn't matter (Could be my phone tethered to my laptop it would be the same)
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Currently on the phone with att about the same issue...thing is im using an htc desire from telus...im not swapping my simcard with anything at all. They are saying my device is coming up as a telemetry unit which is therefore making the assumption of sim swapping. On the phone for an hour now and the geniuses still cant figure out how to fix the issue.
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Funny cause it's exactly what I told them: I have a foreign phone as well (On top of my Tab) and I bet them that my foreign phone would have the same issue
MMh so they either detect what we do with the IMEI or potentially the radio (Or a combination of both)
I feel really bad trying to find a workaround while what I ma doing is perfectly legit when it is on my TP2, or I am even ready to pay for their Tethering plan........
If the issue is just the IMEI, that can be easily solved... But I dont like to have to be sneaky when again I pay honetsly my stuff every month
If you find a solution for your telus please tell us
Yeah I got that text last night around 9 pm I nearly craped my self. I was like wtf. I have the unlimited data. it shouldn't matter what device my Sim is in.. I guess I'll see what the tab does with the Sim that it came with. my Nexus still works fine though. I checked the website today and they are doing Maintenance to the data section. figures.
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Yeah I got that text last night around 9 pm I nearly craped my self. I was like wtf. I have the unlimited data. it shouldn't matter what device my Sim is in.. I guess I'll see what the tab does with the Sim that it came with. my Nexus still works fine though. I checked the website today and they are doing Maintenance to the data section. figures.
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I am pretty sure my Tab fits ok within a 4Gb plan (I don't tether anyway). BUT I just dont wnat to carry aound 2 devices. My phone + teh Tab. And if I ahve to use their stupid plan / SIM card I will have to
I am surprised we don't see many more reactions. I thought a lot of us were doing Data + voice using their phone plans... Maybe not everybody was blocked yet. Or I just overestimate the number of US users using their tab like this. What's unbelievable is how other countries are managing the Tab vs the US (real pain here...)
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Funny cause it's exactly what I told them: I have a foreign phone as well (On top of my Tab) and I bet them that my foreign phone would have the same issue
MMh so they either detect what we do with the IMEI or potentially the radio (Or a combination of both)
I feel really bad trying to find a workaround while what I ma doing is perfectly legit when it is on my TP2, or I am even ready to pay for their Tethering plan........
If the issue is just the IMEI, that can be easily solved... But I dont like to have to be sneaky when again I pay honetsly my stuff every month
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After getting off the phone here was the scenario:
The guy admitted to me that he was not very familiar with what was going on, however I could tell he was still trying pretty hard to find out how to resolve the issue by calling other departments and he didnt have a bias towards me having an unlocked phone like I know ATT personel tend to have.
Basically there were 3 options
1. return the phone which I laughed in his face ( this was recommended not by him but by another person in a diff dept
2. Turn the internet back on with the risk of shutting off again ( which I did not do because he told my my account was now flagged for disuse of internet and could result in plenty of charges I wouldn't want.)
3. Wait until Tuesday for a call back from him since some1 has to manually put in my IMEI # and override the system, (which was apparently down)
I took option 3 with the hopes that this will be resolved by the time the rep gets back to me on Tues. If it doesn't go well my phone is basically useless and I will probably push for a free phone somehow. Best of luck to everybody else, I will update ASAP
So I am going to get the N4 from the play store as soon as its available.
I have a galaxy S2 with TMobile now. I've put it up for sale and have a buyer all lined up. How do I activate the N4? Will there be a place for my to put my SIM card in? Will I have to take the phone to TMobile?
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So I am going to get the N4 from the play store as soon as its available.
I have a galaxy S2 with TMobile now. I've put it up for sale and have a buyer all lined up. How do I activate the N4? Will there be a place for my to put my SIM card in? Will I have to take the phone to TMobile?
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there's nothing to activate, just make sure your SIM card is a microsim. If it isn't then I suggest ordering a 3$ micro sim cutter from amazon, or go to T-mobile and see if they're willing to give you a micro sim.
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there's nothing to activate, just make sure your SIM card is a microsim. If it isn't then I suggest ordering a 3$ micro sim cutter from amazon, or go to T-mobile and see if they're willing to give you a micro sim.
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Thats what I needed to know. I have a mini sim in my S2. I don't even know if tmobile has micro sim cards yet. I'll end up getting one from amazon.
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Thats what I needed to know. I have a mini sim in my S2. I don't even know if tmobile has micro sim cards yet. I'll end up getting one from amazon.
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order it now that way you get it by the end of this coming week.
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Haha, I don't think I'll get a micro sim or a micro sim cutter. I'm cutting it with scissors LOL. But it probably would be a good idea to go to att and ask for a micro sim so I could keep the original to go back in my old phone if the N4 sucks, butI doubt it will...so I'm still cutting it with scissors
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So I am going to get the N4 from the play store as soon as its available.
I have a galaxy S2 with TMobile now. I've put it up for sale and have a buyer all lined up. How do I activate the N4? Will there be a place for my to put my SIM card in? Will I have to take the phone to TMobile?
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You don't have to take it to T-Mobile. I just called Customer Support (611) this evening and told them I'm getting an unlocked phone to upgrade my current line and need a micro SIM for it, and they are mailing me one free. (They'll do expedited shipping if you pay for it.) When you get your Nexus 4, just call 611 again or go to www.t-mobile.com/sim to activate it. No scissors, no cutter, and no trip to the store necessary.
Just talked to the tmobile rep. I can go to any tmobile store and get a micro sim card free of charge at any time.
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You don't have to take it to T-Mobile. I just called Customer Support (611) this evening and told them I'm getting an unlocked phone to upgrade my current line and need a micro SIM for it, and they are mailing me one free. (They'll do expedited shipping if you pay for it.) When you get your Nexus 4, just call 611 again or go to www.t-mobile.com/sim to activate it. No scissors, no cutter, and no trip to the store necessary.
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Funny thing. I just called them asking that exact statement, they said unfortunetly they cannot ship just the micro sim card, only with a new phone. I asked to speak to a manager and got transfered to the accessories department. They went on to tell me they don't deal with that and I need to go in store WITH THE DEVICE.
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Funny thing. I just called them asking that exact statement, they said unfortunetly they cannot ship just the micro sim card, only with a new phone. I asked to speak to a manager and got transfered to the accessories department. They went on to tell me they don't deal with that and I need to go in store WITH THE DEVICE.
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That's because you were the guy who escalated to a manager. Trust me on this, I've worked call centers. Just be polite, say thanks anyways and call back. You'll get someone else and they may have a different tune. Having been on the other end of the phone, no matter how nice or polite you are, if you "ask to speak to a manager" you are labeled instantly as a ****.
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That's because you were the guy who escalated to a manager. Trust me on this, I've worked call centers. Just be polite, say thanks anyways and call back. You'll get someone else and they may have a different tune. Having been on the other end of the phone, no matter how nice or polite you are, if you "ask to speak to a manager" you are labeled instantly as a ****.
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I didn't ask to speak to the manager instantly. I asked to after I was told I needed to talk to accessories.
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I didn't ask to speak to the manager instantly. I asked to after I was told I needed to talk to accessories.
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Never said you did it right away, but the fact you did at all is the point. Not trying to step on toes, just giving some call center tips to help you get what you are looking for. I won't go into it as this isn't the place for it, but feel free to PM me if you are interested in some good tips.
Activating for myself will involve dropping in with my N4 to Telus retail and picking up a microSIM as my current phone uses a regular SIM. Store has it listed for 10$, but we'll see if I can talk it down. I don't want to deal with cutting the SIM.
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Funny thing. I just called them asking that exact statement, they said unfortunetly they cannot ship just the micro sim card, only with a new phone. I asked to speak to a manager and got transfered to the accessories department. They went on to tell me they don't deal with that and I need to go in store WITH THE DEVICE.
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http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-phone/T-Mobile-Micro-SIM-Card-Activation-Kit :good:
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http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-phone/T-Mobile-Micro-SIM-Card-Activation-Kit :good:
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Ordered. Thank. I would have spent more on gas to go pick it up.
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Haha, I don't think I'll get a micro sim or a micro sim cutter. I'm cutting it with scissors LOL. But it probably would be a good idea to go to att and ask for a micro sim so I could keep the original to go back in my old phone if the N4 sucks, butI doubt it will...so I'm still cutting it with scissors
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Careful with that, friend did it with a printout template and it wouldn't work on the HTC One X because it was off by a very small amount. Even despite trying tape/etc it still wouldnt make proper contact.
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Funny thing. I just called them asking that exact statement, they said unfortunetly they cannot ship just the micro sim card, only with a new phone. I asked to speak to a manager and got transfered to the accessories department. They went on to tell me they don't deal with that and I need to go in store WITH THE DEVICE.
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Huh, strange. I wouldn't have expected that, given how straightforward and easy it was when I called. I said, "I'm buying an unlocked phone and need a micro SIM for it," and the agent just asked which line I was putting it on and how soon I needed it, then confirmed that the order had been placed; couldn't have been easier. Oh, well, YMMV, I guess. (And we'll see how well it works when I get the phone -- it's possible that it was easy because it was wrong! Worst case, I have to hop in the car for the 20-minute drive down to the T-Mobile store.)
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9sVFJA8a_BUcnR3bG9nVWFiRmc/edit?pli=1
Does this not look easier than any option to anybody? If it goes wrong, then you can go through the trouble of getting a sim and activating it, but I think cutting is definitely worth a try.
Oky guys I already have 2 pre-paid micro sim card activation kit, seating on my table they aren't activated yet. So my question is when I got my nexus I can put the sim and transfer my number to the micro sim ?
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Oky guys I already have 2 pre-paid micro sim card activation kit, seating on my table they aren't activated yet. So my question is when I got my nexus I can put the sim and transfer my number to the micro sim ?
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Prepaid T-Mobile sims aren't compatible with a post-paid account.
If you have a prepaid plan then I think you can transfer.
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Prepaid T-Mobile sims aren't compatible with a post-paid account.
If you have a prepaid plan then I think you can transfer.
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no i have post paid unlimited plan, and the tool kit has been activated so I chatted with t-mobile supports they said it would work. but will see :fingers-crossed:
Just want to make sure I'm getting this right. I'm sure I'm not the only 1, so hopefully any input here will be helpful to others as well.
So I sold my Galaxy Note 2, which means I'm back to the OG Droid between now and whenever the Note 3 arrives (other threads are popping up about shipping tomorrow). I just want to confirm my steps with you smart people so I don't screw anything up, and do my part in keeping unlimited data. Did this all on Verizon's website and was never prompted to choose a different data plan. So I'm passed that step, want to ensure I activate properly and don't mess anything else going forward.
The Note 3 is coming as a transferred upgrade on my 3rd line (dumb phone), from my main line (unlimited data). I will receive the phone, activate on my 3rd line. Wait until it updates on Verizon's website that the Note 3 is on my 3rd line. Then swap the SIM attached to my main line, into the Note 3. Wait for that to update on VzW website. Then change my 3rd line back to my dumb phone and activate said dumb phone to get back to basic $10 a month plan. If it forces me in to a data plan, call VzW at that point to have data removed from dumb phone line (this was discussed over at AndroidCentral about what to do if it forces a data plan on your basic line).
In the mean time; is it ok to put my OG Droid on my main line? Since I'll be shipping out my Note 2 tomorrow, will this have any affect on the order I do things above? Sorry for being such a Nervous Nelly, it's obviously important to many of us on here to keep unlimited and I just want to be sure I'm not screwing anything up.
Thanks for any input guys! And we're in the home-stretch!!
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Just want to make sure I'm getting this right. I'm sure I'm not the only 1, so hopefully any input here will be helpful to others as well.
So I sold my Galaxy Note 2, which means I'm back to the OG Droid between now and whenever the Note 3 arrives (other threads are popping up about shipping tomorrow). I just want to confirm my steps with you smart people so I don't screw anything up, and do my part in keeping unlimited data. Did this all on Verizon's website and was never prompted to choose a different data plan. So I'm passed that step, want to ensure I activate properly and don't mess anything else going forward.
The Note 3 is coming as a transferred upgrade on my 3rd line (dumb phone), from my main line (unlimited data). I will receive the phone, activate on my 3rd line. Wait until it updates on Verizon's website that the Note 3 is on my 3rd line. Then swap the SIM attached to my main line, into the Note 3. Wait for that to update on VzW website. Then change my 3rd line back to my dumb phone and activate said dumb phone to get back to basic $10 a month plan. If it forces me in to a data plan, call VzW at that point to have data removed from dumb phone line (this was discussed over at AndroidCentral about what to do if it forces a data plan on your basic line).
In the mean time; is it ok to put my OG Droid on my main line? Since I'll be shipping out my Note 2 tomorrow, will this have any affect on the order I do things above? Sorry for being such a Nervous Nelly, it's obviously important to many of us on here to keep unlimited and I just want to be sure I'm not screwing anything up.
Thanks for any input guys! And we're in the home-stretch!!
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Personally I would not switch to a 3G phone and then back to a 4G phone. You currently have the Note 2 so it's super simple, just switch the SIM card from the Note 2 to Note 3. If you go to the OG Droid you'll have to reactivate the new SIM and I heard that's where issues start to come up, at least in this case. It should be in on 10/10.
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Personally I would not switch to a 3G phone and then back to a 4G phone. You currently have the Note 2 so it's super simple, just switch the SIM card from the Note 2 to Note 3. If you go to the OG Droid you'll have to reactivate the new SIM and I heard that's where issues start to come up, at least in this case. It should be in on 10/10.
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Ok that makes sense, thank you. Is a SIM card included with the device? I've never ordered from Verizon, always bought in store. I'd like to be able to activate it when I receive it, right to that 3rd line without having to take it to a store. So I can let the system update, then just swap SIMs a 2nd time like you're saying.
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Personally I would not switch to a 3G phone and then back to a 4G phone. You currently have the Note 2 so it's super simple, just switch the SIM card from the Note 2 to Note 3. If you go to the OG Droid you'll have to reactivate the new SIM and I heard that's where issues start to come up, at least in this case. It should be in on 10/10.
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Actually, there is absolutely no danger of losing unlimited when switching between 3G and 4G phones. You can do it via web form or over the phone, just so long as you have the 3G phone's ESN and the 4G phone's ESN as well as the SIM number. Don't ask me why I did this, but I decided to use a Palm Treo 755p for a week to prove something to myself, and I was able to activate it, use it for as long as I wanted, and then go back to my Galaxy Nexus without losing unlimited.
So if you want to use your OG Droid, go ahead. There's no issue, as long as you don't lose your SIM card.
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Ok that makes sense, thank you. Is a SIM card included with the device? I've never ordered from Verizon, always bought in store. I'd like to be able to activate it when I receive it, right to that 3rd line without having to take it to a store. So I can let the system update, then just swap SIMs a 2nd time like you're saying.
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When ordering you can choose a new sim card or not. I did not opt for a new one as i have no need since its a simple swap
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keynith said:
When ordering you can choose a new sim card or not. I did not opt for a new one as i have no need since its a simple swap
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Hmmm yes I see that now and it appears I did not chose to have 1. Even more of an issue for me is its showing my main number as the number I'm upgrading. Except I transfered that upgrade to my 3rd line. Did Verizon figure me out?
This is crazy. I know when I did the upgrade I transferred to my 3rd line and it showed that number as the line I'm upgrading. But now, on the confirmation of pre order its showing my main number...This could have a bad ending.
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Hmmm yes I see that now and it appears I did not chose to have 1. Even more of an issue for me is its showing my main number as the number I'm upgrading. Except I transfered that upgrade to my 3rd line. Did Verizon figure me out?
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I have the same issue, order shows the unlimited line as the upgrade... Last time I did this it showed the number I had transferred the unlimited upgrade to. I have contacted Verizon, their advice was to call when I get the new phone and let them do all the swapping, and that way I can make sure not to do anything to mess up the unlimited data line. The CSRs will actually help you through the process... and I was told they have NOT changed any policy that would keep you from being able to do this. So my advice, call when you get the phone, they do this all the time. Better safe than sorry.
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I have the same issue, order shows the unlimited line as the upgrade... Last time I did this it showed the number I had transferred the unlimited upgrade to. I have contacted Verizon, their advice was to call when I get the new phone and let them do all the swapping, and that way I can make sure not to do anything to mess up the unlimited data line. The CSRs will actually help you through the process... and I was told they have NOT changed any policy that would keep you from being able to do this. So my advice, call when you get the phone, they do this all the time. Better safe than sorry.
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Thanks for the advice. I haven't had a min to call yet but I think I will just to get on record of it. I'm going to have to head into a store anyway since I didn't request a SIM and I don't h a very 1 for that line...
Hopefully this gets all straightened out as it seems more than a fluke on my account. Others are seeing it too, I wonder what is really going on.
Edit: Just got off the phone with a CSR myself, to find out whats going on. He ASSURED me, that the phone is coming attached to my 3rd line. Also that a SIM is included and when I activate the phone with said SIM, it will show up on my 3rd line. The reason its showing my main number is because that's the main number on the account. He assured me more than once that this phone will in no way affect my main line or the data plan, and that once activated will go right onto my additional line. Hope that calms some nerves- it did mine, although we won't know anything until we actually go through the process ourselves.
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So let me tell you how this went down...
First, I go to a local Best Buy Mobile store to check out the Moto G for my girlfriend. They tell me they can't sell me one in the store until Jan. 9th, but if I purchase one online and choose to pickup in the store, I could get one. So I stand in the store, buy the phone on my GS4, and pick it up at the counter. Weird process, but whatever.
So I bought the phone. The lady at the register assured me that I would be able to use this on her line (which is a contract line). Go to activate it, and find out that it can't be done until the 9th. That's cool, no problem. Once I get home, I find out that the phone will only work on a prepaid line and BestBuy did not inform me of this. I go back up to the store to return it, but they won't take it back because it's opened. Oh, I forgot to mention, the lady at the damn counter was the one who opened it!
So, is there ANY way that I could get this to activate on a contract line without having it activated on a prepaid line for 6 months, or am I screwed? If not, is there a good way to bypass the activation and use it solely as a wifi "tablet" (for my girlfriend's kid)?
If I actually am screwed, anyone want this thing for $80 shipped in the continental US?
That's a lie about it being opened. I have returned prepaid phone there on several occasions. There is something either shady about your story or the person working but something isn't adding up here.
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There is no SIM slot right?
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That's a lie about it being opened. I have returned prepaid phone there on several occasions. There is something either shady about your story or the person working but something isn't adding up here.
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Yeah, I thought something was fishy about that too. I'm going to try and take it back when someone else is working.
szymgio said:
There is no SIM slot right?
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Correct, there is no SIM slot.
rngrdanny22 said:
If not, is there a good way to bypass the activation and use it solely as a wifi "tablet" (for my girlfriend's kid)?
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You can bypass the activation easily, simply hit next 1 time, pull down the notification center, click on the multitasking button and swipe away the activation screen quickly, and boom! You have a $100 iPod touch alternative (which is why I bought it) I recorded a short video to show you, wiped it real quick because I just got it yesterday anyways
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youtu.be/qhphsyRFEy4
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Yeah, I thought something was fishy about that too. I'm going to try and take it back when someone else is working.
Correct, there is no SIM slot.
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It doesn't make sense to buy device without SIM slot...
szymgio said:
It doesn't make sense to buy device without SIM slot...
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Why? CDMA phones have never used SIM slots. It's only with LTE now that Verizon and Sprint have used SIMs in their phones
wws12 said:
Why? CDMA phones have never used SIM slots. It's only with LTE now that Verizon and Sprint have used SIMs in their phones
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I like to have choice.
uhm it was my impression that with bestbuy you can return prepaid phones opened within 14 days, the part you left out of your story is how long you waited to return the phone!
rngrdanny22 said:
So let me tell you how this went down...
First, I go to a local Best Buy Mobile store to check out the Moto G for my girlfriend. They tell me they can't sell me one in the store until Jan. 9th, but if I purchase one online and choose to pickup in the store, I could get one. So I stand in the store, buy the phone on my GS4, and pick it up at the counter. Weird process, but whatever.
So I bought the phone. The lady at the register assured me that I would be able to use this on her line (which is a contract line). Go to activate it, and find out that it can't be done until the 9th. That's cool, no problem. Once I get home, I find out that the phone will only work on a prepaid line and BestBuy did not inform me of this. I go back up to the store to return it, but they won't take it back because it's opened. Oh, I forgot to mention, the lady at the damn counter was the one who opened it!
So, is there ANY way that I could get this to activate on a contract line without having it activated on a prepaid line for 6 months, or am I screwed? If not, is there a good way to bypass the activation and use it solely as a wifi "tablet" (for my girlfriend's kid)?
If I actually am screwed, anyone want this thing for $80 shipped in the continental US?
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Nice
skyhawk21 said:
uhm it was my impression that with bestbuy you can return prepaid phones opened within 14 days, the part you left out of your story is how long you waited to return the phone!
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The Verizon phone has only been available for 3 days. He's no way near the 14 day limit. Love the attitude.
szymgio said:
I like to have choice.
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Cool story, brah. Nonetheless, I guess you missed the fact that he bought this for his girlfriend who is under contract with Verizon which is a CDMA carrier. You can't buy a GSM phone and use it on a CDMA carrier. The only time one would need a SIM card slot is if you're using it on Sprint or Verizon's LTE network and since this phone doesn't have LTE....
Thanks for the responses guys! I'll try the unlock method later tonight when I have the phone in hand again (girlfriend still has it at the moment).
As for the return policy, I agree with y'all. I probably should be able to take it back, but the lady at the counter seemed like she might have been new or something. I actually tried to take it back about 4 hours later, so way within the 14 day window mentioned earlier.
On a side note, I won't be using the phone either way as I just went ahead and bought a like-new GS3 from a friend that she is going to use (wish I would have known he was selling it PRIOR to all this). If I can use it as a tablet, I'll just let her kid have it, but if not, I'll try and take it back again.
Will keep everyone posted!
keep us posted guy, I might take you up on that offer.
Good luck.
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sicembaylor said:
Cool story, brah. Nonetheless, I guess you missed the fact that he bought this for his girlfriend who is under contract with Verizon which is a CDMA carrier. You can't buy a GSM phone and use it on a CDMA carrier. The only time one would need a SIM card slot is if you're using it on Sprint or Verizon's LTE network and since this phone doesn't have LTE....
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Can you use this phone with other CDMA carrier?
So I can buy one at best buy at 99 usd and use or not? No need anything like an active line or anything else?
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Lay295 said:
You can bypass the activation easily, simply hit next 1 time, pull down the notification center, click on the multitasking button and swipe away the activation screen quickly, and boom! You have a $100 iPod touch alternative (which is why I bought it) I recorded a short video to show you, wiped it real quick because I just got it yesterday anyways
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youtu.be/qhphsyRFEy4
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Alejandrissimo said:
So I can buy one at best buy at 99 usd and use or not? No need anything like an active line or anything else?
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read post above. I my self haven't bought one yet. buy looks like we can
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Alejandrissimo said:
So I can buy one at best buy at 99 usd and use or not? No need anything like an active line or anything else?
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Correct. After being told they didn't have any at my local store I was happy to inform them that they had 8 of them in stock which was very easy to find out online, and a little arguing about whether or not they could sell it yet, as well as a call to their Verizon rep, I finally was able to procure a Moto G without activating it. Hoping to find out this will work immediately with PagePlus.
Good news everyone, I was able to bypass the activation screen and unlock the phone for "tablet" use (using the methods mentioned in this thread). After playing with the phone for a little while, I gotta say, I actually like the thing! While we won't be using this as a phone, I will probably keep it to use as a MP3 player for the house.
I played around with the features a little and the only real disappointment that I saw was the camera. Maybe I'm use to the 13MP on the GS4, but the picture quality just didn't seem very good. Better than my girlfriend's old iPhone 4, but lacking nonetheless.
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Correct. After being told they didn't have any at my local store I was happy to inform them that they had 8 of them in stock which was very easy to find out online, and a little arguing about whether or not they could sell it yet, as well as a call to their Verizon rep, I finally was able to procure a Moto G without activating it. Hoping to find out this will work immediately with PagePlus.
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Let me know how that works out. I tried and the pageplus rep said that the phone was unable to work, and it needed to be 'unlocked.' I wonder if I just got someone who didn't know what to do.
I returned my Verizon prepaid moto g today to BB. I did not have any issues. They did check to see if it had been activated. They turned the phone on and seeing the activate wizard appear turned it off. They only thing I didn't get back was the $0.70 for a 911 fee.
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