Sorry if this has been answered but I'm on the xda app and can't search. I'm thinking about getting this phone and unlocking it to work on T-Mobiles network. How cross compatible is it? Will it work with the T-Mobile "4G"?
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Lint6 said:
Sorry if this has been answered but I'm on the xda app and can't search. I'm thinking about getting this phone and unlocking it to work on T-Mobiles network. How cross compatible is it? Will it work with the T-Mobile "4G"?
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Nope, you will only get 2G (EDGE).
t-mobile and at&t use different 3G frequencies, so if you unlock it you will only get EDGE speeds. Not worthy IMO, you have lots of options in your country, i would recommend to wait for the samsung galaxy s II phone.
Will work on the network but data will be at Edge speeds, not 4G.
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Just get the new nexus s and enjoy 2.3.3 and new nfc features and 3 axis gyroscope for wii like control over games and updates first and super Smiled screen lol
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nucentury08 said:
Just get the new nexus s and enjoy 2.3.3 and new nfc features and 3 axis gyroscope for wii like control over games and updates first and super Smiled screen lol
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On the new Nexus S - if you run out of internal storage - what size memory card can you add? Oh, wait they left off the SD card slot on that model. But those super AMOLED screens are really easy on the battery right? Oh wait, if the screen is black they use less juice but not otherwise.
Sorry, had to pick on you. Suffered with the captivate for 8 months..... yeah i drank the Koolaid - now i know better - but samsung sure can spin it.
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On the new Nexus S - if you run out of internal storage - what size memory card can you add? Oh, wait they left off the SD card slot on that model. But those super AMOLED screens are really easy on the battery right? Oh wait, if the screen is black they use less juice but not otherwise.
Sorry, had to pick on you. Suffered with the captivate for 8 months..... yeah i drank the Koolaid - now i know better - but samsung sure can spin it.
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Just ignore him, hes been trolling all over the Atrix forums. The gyroscope in his phone apparently makes his keyboard so fast that he cant use punctuation.
Unfortunately NOT ...
Inspite every where they said you'll only get EDGE , I Saw one guy saying he got 4G on simple mobile which uses the TMO towers sometimes (both have same frequencies)!!!
I bought the ATRIX on TMO and for 2 days now only EDGE
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Unfortunately NOT ...
Inspite every where they said you'll only get EDGE , I Saw one guy saying he got 4G on simple mobile which uses the TMO towers sometimes (both have same frequencies)!!!
I bought the ATRIX on TMO and for 2 days now only EDGE
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nowhere do they say you can use an att phone on t mobile 3G. it's been known for years that their frequencies are different and incompatible. you just didn't do your homework before purchasing.
I knew 99% it won't work but i took the challenge anyway ..
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nowhere do they say you can use an att phone on t mobile 3G. it's been known for years that their frequencies are different and incompatible. you just didn't do your homework before purchasing.
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don't judge me ... I did my homework
... Just kinding
Actually make search for (atrix on t mobile) you'll find another disscussion about the same topic and will find the guy that I menstioned before ...
As New user I'm not allowed to post links but that what he said exactly
"Yo I got it to work with simple mobile with their 4g. Just go to gsmhosting forums and buy a code from their advertised sites. They email it to you in 5 minutes, just input imei and that it."
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Actually make search for (atrix on t mobile) you'll find another disscussion about the same topic and will find the guy that I menstioned before ...
As New user I'm not allowed to post links but that what he said exactly
"Yo I got it to work with simple mobile with their 4g. Just go to gsmhosting forums and buy a code from their advertised sites. They email it to you in 5 minutes, just input imei and that it."
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That code process is to unlock the phone to enable it to be used with networks other than AT&T. But that doesn't get you data speed any faster than 2G/Edge using an Atrix on T-Mobile's network.
I'm a little confused here. You guys are saying that the Atrix will only get 2G/EDGE speeds on TMobile because the frequencies are different.
I am currently using the Nexus One.. how is it that I'm getting 3G speeds with a phone that is compatible with both AT&T and TMobile then??
Doesnt this mean that the Atrix should be able to get 3G speeds as long as it has the appropriate software? or am I not understanding something..
There are 2 kinds of nexus ones.. one with AWS bands (tmobile) and one with the regular 850/1900 (ATT). That's why you see them work on both tmobile and att. But a single device won't work on both bands.
It is a hardware issue. No software flashing will be able to fix it. If you bought the wrong one then you're stuck with it.
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don't judge me ... I did my homework
... Just kinding
Actually make search for (atrix on t mobile) you'll find another disscussion about the same topic and will find the guy that I menstioned before ...
As New user I'm not allowed to post links but that what he said exactly
"Yo I got it to work with simple mobile with their 4g. Just go to gsmhosting forums and buy a code from their advertised sites. They email it to you in 5 minutes, just input imei and that it."
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False. There's not a chance in the world that is true. T-Mo USA and AT&T use mutually exclusive bands. No carrier-branded phones carry both bands. The only modern phone that carries bands necessary for 3/4G on either network would be the upcoming, not-for-sale/developer-only Nokia N950.
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False. There's not a chance in the world that is true. T-Mo USA and AT&T use mutually exclusive bands. No carrier-branded phones carry both bands. The only modern phone that carries bands necessary for 3/4G on either network would be the upcoming, not-for-sale/developer-only Nokia N950.
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The Nokia N8 and E7 also have the 3G frequencies necessary for both At&t and T-mobile, as well as Europe/Asia (850/900/1700/1900/2100). However, I agree with you that no At&t/T-mobile branded device carries all the needed bands.
http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-Touchscreen-Featuring-Navigation-Camera-U-S/dp/B003ZX7RL4
http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-Unlocked-Touchscreen-Navigation-Camera-U-S/dp/B0046LTU9G
Vibrant can be used on T-Mo and AT&T as well
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There are 2 kinds of nexus ones.. one with AWS bands (tmobile) and one with the regular 850/1900 (ATT). That's why you see them work on both tmobile and att. But a single device won't work on both bands.
It is a hardware issue. No software flashing will be able to fix it. If you bought the wrong one then you're stuck with it.
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Ah, I see. I didnt realize that there are 2 types of the Nexus One.
I had assumed that since they are not branded by any carriers that they were all the same device.
Thanks
I was really hoping to have my TZones internet plan, which runs at 3G speeds on the Nexus, run on an unlocked Atrix but that doesn't look possible.
Are there any phones newer than the Nexus One that will work with Tmobile 3G and are unbranded by Tmobile?
The branded Tmo android phones lock out my Tzones.
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Ah, I see. I didnt realize that there are 2 types of the Nexus One.
I had assumed that since they are not branded by any carriers that they were all the same device.
Thanks
I was really hoping to have my TZones internet plan, which runs at 3G speeds on the Nexus, run on an unlocked Atrix but that doesn't look possible.
Are there any phones newer than the Nexus One that will work with Tmobile 3G and are unbranded by Tmobile?
The branded Tmo android phones lock out my Tzones.
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Here's a list of phones that will work with tmobile 3G. Take your pick. You may have to source it from somewhere else if you wish to buy it unlocked and unbranded.
The Nexus S is unlocked and unbranded even if you get it from tmobile. But since you are coming from the Nexus One, it is up to you if its worth the upgrade. Other than the Nexus S, have a look at dual core phones.
http://www.gsmarena.com/results.php...nes=0&sColor=&StandBy=0&TalkTime=0&sFreeText=
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i am currently running atrix 4g on system version 4.5.141 and android version 2.3.6.. I am rooted and have and unlocked boot loader. I also got the unlock code for my phone and it was successful and i am now running T-mobile sim chip i am only getting the Edge .. I have a thought as if you could change the phone frequency settings with sqlite editor i mean if you can disable the entitlement_check to enable theathering with AT&T's 2gb plan then we should be able to figure out how to change the frequency ratings of the phone to be able to run on t-mobiles 4g ... I wish that someone with a little more Knowledge could help out with this..
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I bought a used N1 on eBay. I totally wasn't even thinking about the fact that there are different models of the phone for different carriers. Turns out I have the T-Mobile N1, but I have AT&T service currently.
I assume that there is no kind of mod/firmware to get it to use AT&T 3G, and that it's the hardware that limits me to T-Mo? Probably more than some custom firmware or something could fix?
That kind of sucks, if so. I doubt anyone would have an AT&T model, looking for a T-Mo model, eh?
Thanks for any help, if it's even possible..
Have you looked at the seller's return policy?
No returns accepted, as stated on the item page.
I can live with it (in remorse)..
The seller didn't mention what model it was at all, either.
I don't suppose Verizon uses the same bands as T-Mo?
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No returns accepted, as stated on the item page.
I can live with it (in remorse)..
The seller didn't mention what model it was at all, either.
I don't suppose Verizon uses the same bands as T-Mo?
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No, they don't. T-Mobile and Verizon use totally different radio technologies.
Go onto the Marketplace forum on XDA, and trade/sell it through there.
Put your sim card in it
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Post it for sale locally on craigslist to finance a unit with the AT&T radio.
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Also if you have trouble locating the AT&T compatible N1, you may also consider the Telus version of HTC Desire. Largely the same hardware, AT&T bands, but no Euro 2100 band.
Possible bonus: AT&T does not know the IMEI of Telus Androids, and might not force you to a higher cost smart phone data plan.
Thanks for your input, guys.
I'll try first to sell it locally via Craigslist.
I really think that it will be much more difficult
since they discontinued the Nexus One, and provided it through the developers only,
it has always been the T-Mobile version which is quite disappointing....
the AT&T version seem to just disappear from manufacturing all together
point I am trying to make is that it the AT&T version should be much rarer and possibly worth more on the market since there are less quantities of it
it sucks my friend I feel for you...
How is the T-Mobile N1 different from AT&T model?
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Different radio frequencies and limited availability. Otherwise identical.
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I've done the exact opposite...got myself an ATT N1 while on tmobile...hahaha
hahah. I've since sold my T-Mo N1 on eBay and bought an AT&T N1 from Craigslist.. got a sweet deal, too!
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If you Unlock the S off on the nexus one Tmobile. You can use a At&t sm card with out a problem. I UnloCked the S off ON the mytouch 4g AND IT works on At&t s network. HMMMM. Wondering if it works.
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If you Unlock the S off on the nexus one Tmobile. You can use a At&t sm card with out a problem. I UnloCked the S off ON the mytouch 4g AND IT works on At&t s network. HMMMM. Wondering if it works.
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Yes, it will function on the network. The issue is that the radio hardware is built for specific frequencies, which differ between the T-Mobile and AT&T models.
You can use one phone on the other's network just fine as a phone, but you will be limited to 2G data speeds, as AT&T uses 850/1900MHz for their 3G data and T-Mobile uses 900 1700/2100MHz.
Umm, nobody uses 900 MHz for cellular in North America... that spectrum is not allocated for that purpose here.
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Umm, nobody uses 900 MHz for cellular in North America... that spectrum is not allocated for that purpose here.
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You're right, my apologies. The fact of the matter (that the hardware is incompatible between the AT&T and T-Mobile networks) remains intact though.
Correct 3G data frequency information, as best I can make it out:
AT&T uses 850MHz and 1900MHz.
T-Mobile uses 1700MHz and 2100MHz.
900MHz and 2100MHz are used primarily in Europe; a phone made for European markets will have a better chance of being fully compatible with T-Mobile's network in the states based on sharing the 2100MHz band.
Closer but still not quite
Read up on the AWS band. European phones will not get T-Mobile 3G at all without 1700.
But in the specific case of the Nexus One, models sold in Europe do have AWS.
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Dope
I just got the mytouch 4g and i wanted to sell my nexus one. But i wanted to double check and see if i can sell it to someone on the at&t network. I currently have tmobile. I thought the S-Off was to completely unlock the phone. So u can switch between carriers. Didnt know the frequency would be different. thank guyz. Damn u HTC.
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I bought a used N1 on eBay. I totally wasn't even thinking about the fact that there are different models of the phone for different carriers. Turns out I have the T-Mobile N1, but I have AT&T service currently.
I assume that there is no kind of mod/firmware to get it to use AT&T 3G, and that it's the hardware that limits me to T-Mo? Probably more than some custom firmware or something could fix?
That kind of sucks, if so. I doubt anyone would have an AT&T model, looking for a T-Mo model, eh?
Thanks for any help, if it's even possible..
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What kind of shape is your T-Mobile N1 in?
I'm actually in the process of switching to T-Mobile, and I have an ATT model that I would potentially be interested in trading, but it's definitely not mint.
my friend is upgrading to the g2x and i was considering buying the mytouch from him...but i would like to know before i do if they are interchangable? i have no problem or fear with having to flash different files if neccesary
you will only get EDGE, no 3G
Are the bands limited by software or hardware? I know there were several phones of the past where that issue could've been resolved (though for regular bands rather than 3g).
Hardware, nothing will remedy the issue.
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you will only get EDGE, no 3G
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just curious how you know? is it from expirience?
and edge is just fine i don't plan on using it as a primary phone....just one to mess around with
tiwey said:
just curious how you know? is it from expirience?
and edge is just fine i don't plan on using it as a primary phone....just one to mess around with
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ATT and T-Mobile do not use the same HSPA(+) frequencies. They are independent from one another. Up until the proposed merger all ATT branded phones and T-Mobile Branded phones have 2 different radios, for their respective company. Blackberry, Android and stupid phones. after the proposal some phones have both but not many.
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just curious how you know? is it from expirience?
and edge is just fine i don't plan on using it as a primary phone....just one to mess around with
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absolutely from experience. i unlocked my mt4gs to play around on ATT and TMob, since I have accounts and SIMS on both.
ok thanks...i figured there would be problems with hspa+ but i wanted to make sure...my real question though is whether or not i need to unlock it first or change the baseband ect. or if i could just switch out the SIM cards?
you will need to unlock it. i used the gfree method on my phones
another reason to believe that Sprint GN2 may not have SIM slot.
We already know that previously Sprint Photon Q (made by Motorola) have SIM internally and unremovable. Now we know that there is another Sprint device Optimus G (made by LG) that will have the exactly similar design as far as SIM slot goes. (source here)
With the previous picture purposely a leak of Sprint GN2 device showing no SIM slot, this is likely to be a Sprint own evil doing.
And BTW I'm one very pissed about this. I 'll definitely sending a snail mail to Sprint Executive Office about how pissed I'm as a consumer regarding turning an international capable device into useless crap once the device come out. I go to Thailand every year or so to visit family member and when I am there I would definitely want to use SIM there because of the local number I can use. With unremovable SIM this is no longer possible. I'm very disappointed.
That's sucks, although I don't go over seas that much.. It would be nice to have. Tell them you Ben kohn bah and your red shirt friends don't approve of this.
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Unfortunately most sprint users including myself really don't care that much although it would be great to have definitely not a deal breaker for most and most won't care. I feel your pain as I do go over seas but I don't use my sprint phone for over seas as I use my dumb phone a flip phone unlocked cheapo for traveling. But I'm in ur corner for *****in and moaning hopefully one day it will be different either way just get the damn device in stock and I'm happy
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randy2 said:
Unfortunately most sprint users including myself really don't care that much although it would be great to have definitely not a deal breaker for most and most won't care. I feel your pain as I do go over seas but I don't use my sprint phone for over seas as I use my dumb phone a flip phone unlocked cheapo for traveling. But I'm in ur corner for *****in and moaning hopefully one day it will be different either way just get the damn device in stock and I'm happy
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It appears that this is the route they are going now. I wonder why that is? Does using the embedded SIM force you to use a Sprint International plan, for out of country use?
pardon my ignorance, but isn't the "international" version GSM...and sprint's, obviously gonna be CDMA? and as such, no SIM card?
---at least i've always assumed that SIM cards is something GSM phones use, while CDMA phones do not.
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pardon my ignorance, but isn't the "international" version GSM...and sprint's, obviously gonna be CDMA? and as such, no SIM card?
---at least i've always assumed that SIM cards is something GSM phones use, while CDMA phones do not.
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You're right, but some CDMA phones have radios that support at least EDGE on GSM so you can still text and make phone calls overseas (and if you unlock, you could run them on Tmo and AT&T).
However, the question is if the radios will even support the EDGE GSM bands... probably not though.
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pardon my ignorance, but isn't the "international" version GSM...and sprint's, obviously gonna be CDMA? and as such, no SIM card?
---at least i've always assumed that SIM cards is something GSM phones use, while CDMA phones do not.
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All of Verizon's LTE phones have a SIM card slot and all of their recent phones also have GSM/HSPA radios for global roaming. I believe some can even run on T-Mobile and ATT's frequencies if you are lucky. But LTE will be Verizon only.
would it be possible to flash a Verizon Note 2 to Sprint in order to have one with a SIM card?
There are so much of competition in market, they skipping features users can easily find alternative. Bad for users but too bad for manufactures. They should understand
Not sure if you saw, but someone has figured out how to remove the embedded SIM in the Photon Q and replace it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32593285#post32593285
Yea, but whose brave soul gonna do that on not even a month old GN2. And that's beside the point. Seriously, to me it seem like it would cost the manufacturor even more to make the SIM embeded than regular one.
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It appears that this is the route they are going now. I wonder why that is? Does using the embedded SIM force you to use a Sprint International plan, for out of country use?
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my guess Is That and it decreases fraud. I.e. new accounts created simply to obtain discounted phones that can be used overseas ...then the accounts go bad
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I mean how many sprint phones even support GSM EDGE bands?
I don't use Sprint, so I don't know for a fact, but don't their phones usually only run on CDMA (I've only ever heard of Verizon CDMA "world-phones")
I know that the old Touch Pro 2(wm6) and Photon 4G both have dual GSM/CDMA chip in them and they both have SIM slot.
whats the significance in not having a sim card cause it seems like a good thing to me. unless its like tmobile and att network where you can get gsm phones
The significant isn't about whether it have SIM or not. I mean for most people in the US I think we can get by w/o it. I mean it's like once every year or two that people would go outside the country and can make use of it. So it wouldn't be like a final decision whether to get one w/ or w/o SIM. And you are right there are also AT&T and T-mobile. But I can say the for some people it's about the network in their local, while for other it may simply be about not going back to the service they have bad experience with. To me it's about cost, since I'm a Sprint SERO Premium account owner. But very, it's more about why walking the low path? The phone would have been technically capable of it, the chipset, modem, antana support it. This is more about why purposely redesign it to lock it down to a specific network, greed, basically.
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I know that the old Touch Pro 2(wm6) and Photon 4G both have dual GSM/CDMA chip in them and they both have SIM slot.
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Yes, the Sprint HTC Touch Pro 2 most certainly had a SIM card slot. I had a few of them before making the jump to android with my EVO 4G. It was a nice feature to have on a "Business" phone, which is what the TP2 was geared towards. The productivity of the Note 2 also can be geared for Business users, a SIM slot would be of great use.
Ohh okk that makes sense. Cause I never go out of the country so its not that big of a deal for me. But I guess I'd you travel a lot it would be better to have one
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my guess Is That and it decreases fraud. I.e. new accounts created simply to obtain discounted phones that can be used overseas ...then the accounts go bad
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DING DING DING!! Bingo
Frustrating
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DING DING DING!! Bingo
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Apparently Verizon figured out how to do it properly as they previously have had CDMA, but now allow removable SIM cards for their LTE world-phones. Sprint is now the only provider that locks their phones down like this- it's very frustrating. I am paying for a brand new device that is inherently compatible as a world-phone, but I must buy a separate device to use over seas so that I don't get raped with Sprint's international calling/data plans. RIDICULOUS! These kind of tactics are out of the apple playbook- limit the options of your customers, so you can squeeze em.
guys i just need to know , do you think nexus 4 will get high speed as is as suppose to be with tmobile plan ? or only edge ? cause i hate it when it only edge when using this phone with tmobile . but tmobile has great plan .
cause i was thinking about gettting nexus 4 or the previous one which is samsung galaxy nexus . please need your humble advice .....
This is a pentaband GSM device and it support HSPA+ 42mbps.
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This is a pentaband GSM device and it support HSPA+ 42mbps.
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so by all that , u mean it suppose has no issue using tmobile and can get the connection data as speed as tmobile default speed ?
banboy said:
so by all that , u mean it suppose has no issue using tmobile and can get the connection data as speed as tmobile default speed ?
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Yes, pentaband means it works with virtually every GSM carriers. It will work with T-mobila HSPA+ 42mbps so you will get great speed, as long as you are in the coverage area.
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Yes, pentaband means it works with virtually every GSM carriers. It will work with T-mobila HSPA+ 42mbps so you will get great speed, as long as you are in the coverage area.
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its jusyt last time i used blackberry bold 9900 unlocked no carrier logo , i only get H+ , is that edge ? sorry if i discuss blackberry in this thread its just sad me down to see 4g won't work with that phone . and it occured to me everytime i buy a cellphone i need to know what kind of the signal it will get using tmobile and with that unlocked phone or international phone u know ....
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its jusyt last time i used blackberry bold 9900 unlocked no carrier logo , i only get H+ , is that edge ? sorry if i discuss blackberry in this thread its just sad me down to see 4g won't work with that phone . and it occured to me everytime i buy a cellphone i need to know what kind of the signal it will get using tmobile and with that unlocked phone or international phone u know ....
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H+ is not edge it isn't 4G as the blackberry bold doesnt support it. All the Nexus 4's are the same international or not. If you can get '4G' in your area the nexus 4 will get it. Id recommend ringing up t-mobile and asking.
The Google Play version is the EXACT same version that T-Mobile will sell.
You can check at the store to see if there is 4G or online at there website with there map.
Mind you 42Mbps is theoretical so don't expect to see anything close to that. Because a lot of different factors come into play no matter what phone you are using.
But to answer your question: Yes it will get high speed.
ste1164 said:
H+ is not edge it isn't 4G as the blackberry bold doesnt support it. All the Nexus 4's are the same international or not. If you can get '4G' in your area the nexus 4 will get it. Id recommend ringing up t-mobile and asking.
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so what's the different between unlocked nexus 4 and tmobile nexus 4 ? both of them unlocked or what ? cause if they're the same , imma get tmobile version , since its $199 . just my 2 cents .
shoot , i keep thingking about samsung google nexus the one before nexus 4 , i want to have that one compare to nexus 4 , because the design is much more better u know , and battery removable its a plus point , but yeah i know the feature is not the same like nexus 4 ,
and my other option get the samsung note 2 . great feature but feel like holding a brick .
banboy said:
so what's the different between unlocked nexus 4 and tmobile nexus 4 ? both of them unlocked or what ? cause if they're the same , imma get tmobile version , since its $199 . just my 2 cents .
shoot , i keep thingking about samsung google nexus the one before nexus 4 , i want to have that one compare to nexus 4 , because the design is much more better u know , and battery removable its a plus point , but yeah i know the feature is not the same like nexus 4 ,
and my other option get the samsung note 2 . great feature but feel like holding a brick .
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I'd play around with them. The advantage of the store one is that it will be cheaper in the long run to buy it and get a prepaid contract the $199 model comes with a new 2 year contract. I don't like the galaxy nexus because it has an awful screen. But your best bet is going in a shop and asking to look at demo models. Play with them.
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Yes, you will get the speed that you are getting right now or might be more
Let's put it this way:
The Nexus 4 is capable of reaching the fastest possible speeds on any GSM network except for LTE.
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Let's put it this way:
The Nexus 4 is capable of reaching the fastest possible speeds on any GSM network except for LTE.
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Well said. Someone should post a sticky thread with this. Also, with this:
TMOBILE NEXUS 4 = GOOGLE PLAY NEXUS 4
There can only be one.
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so by all that , u mean it suppose has no issue using tmobile and can get the connection data as speed as tmobile default speed ?
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T-mobile uses 1700 band for 3g/4g
If a phone supports that it will work on T-mobile. This phone does, so yah.
ste1164 said:
I'd play around with them. The advantage of the store one is that it will be cheaper in the long run to buy it and get a prepaid contract the $199 model comes with a new 2 year contract. I don't like the galaxy nexus because it has an awful screen. But your best bet is going in a shop and asking to look at demo models. Play with them.
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The T-Mobile version is far from a sensible option for those ultimately looking for the least expensive device overall. Granted, that may be valid if someone already has intentions of signing a 2 year agreement with T-Mobile, otherwise, even with T-Mobiles somewhat competitive monthly plans, by the end of 2 years ,you'll certainly fork over more than $150: the additional upfront cost it would take to purchase a unlocked 16GB Nexus 4.
Not to mention T-Mobile doesn't offer a 8GB variant, which is more than adequate for me & surprisingly many others I'm sure.
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The T-Mobile version is far from a sensible option for those ultimately looking for the least expensive device overall. Granted, that may be valid if someone already has intentions of signing a 2 year agreement with T-Mobile, otherwise, even with T-Mobiles somewhat competitive monthly plans, by the end of 2 years ,you'll certainly fork over more than $150: the additional upfront cost it would take to purchase a unlocked 16GB Nexus 4.
Not to mention T-Mobile doesn't offer a 8GB variant, which is more than adequate for me & surprisingly many others I'm sure.
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Oh I agree its not sensible at all. I'm from the UK so I'm not sure on Americas prepaid/sim only deals.
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So is the t-mobile lg nexus 4 comes unlocked?
I know how everyone is quick to shoot down people for double posting, but I've tried to search and perhaps my keywords are off but my question is:
Can the Sprint version of the Samsung Galaxy S4 be used on GSM networks?
I'm pretty sure I remember that Note2 and SG3 had no sim slots...but this one does.
Please don't tell me that it's for the LTE data (like in the Metro PCS version of the SG3), it would be hard for me to swallow that because they barely even have 4g in metro areas as it is.
Not sure how you missed this topic, it's been discussed many times. Do a search for sim lock in this forum.
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I know how everyone is quick to shoot down people for double posting, but I've tried to search and perhaps my keywords are off but my question is:
Can the Sprint version of the Samsung Galaxy S4 be used on GSM networks?
I'm pretty sure I remember that Note2 and SG3 had no sim slots...but this one does.
Please don't tell me that it's for the LTE data (like in the Metro PCS version of the SG3), it would be hard for me to swallow that because they barely even have 4g in metro areas as it is.
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i dont know what 4g coverage you are talking about, my metro sgs3 gets great 4g coverage (just terrible metropcs speeds )
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I know how everyone is quick to shoot down people for double posting, but I've tried to search and perhaps my keywords are off but my question is:
Can the Sprint version of the Samsung Galaxy S4 be used on GSM networks?
I'm pretty sure I remember that Note2 and SG3 had no sim slots...but this one does.
Please don't tell me that it's for the LTE data (like in the Metro PCS version of the SG3), it would be hard for me to swallow that because they barely even have 4g in metro areas as it is.
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Don't quote me on this cause I may be absolutely wrong, I have read all the threads in my spare time but this topic doesn't apply to me so I may have misread.
From what I gather, the Sim is for LTE, but you can use it on international GSM networks outside of the USA.
But I read something about being able to get Sprint to unlock it for you after you've been a customer for a certain amount of time or something like that. I don't know if this is true or not tho.
From what I have read though the general consensus is that the first statement is true at least.
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i dont know what 4g coverage you are talking about, my metro sgs3 gets great 4g coverage (just terrible metropcs speeds )
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No no...MetroPCS phones are CDMA, but I heard the sim portion is for the 4g LTE Data...not a slot to allow for GSM usage, that is what I was referring to...sorry to confuse anyone.
It is a cat3 sim card there for LTE im sure it can be unlocked for international use only not on US GSM but again im sure it can be unlocked to use anywhere. There are some smart people on xda and will figure it out.
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Don't quote me on this cause I may be absolutely wrong, I have read all the threads in my spare time but this topic doesn't apply to me so I may have misread.
From what I gather, the Sim is for LTE, but you can use it on international GSM networks outside of the USA.
But I read something about being able to get Sprint to unlock it for you after you've been a customer for a certain amount of time or something like that. I don't know if this is true or not tho.
From what I have read though the general consensus is that the first statement is true at least.
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Is the Sprint LTE network even live? LOL...I swear I haven't seen it active anywhere near my area.
But, if indeed it is a Sim Slot for LTE AND International GSM, I can't see how it would just be for International.
From what I've heard, I could be wrong because of bad info, that all the S4s have cdma/gsm chips and is basically a world phone.
I still have a hard time swallowing the fact that MetroPCS SG3's sim slot is really only for LTE...so like, Samsung made that phone ESPECIALLY for the small carrier? Doesn't compute. Maybe on the software end.
So, that's why I'm believing that Sprint's S4 can be tapped for GSM usage, not just for International but for the US...I don't see how if it is unlocked, that it could differentiate between a U.S. sim chip and foreign one.
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No no...MetroPCS phones are CDMA, but I heard the sim portion is for the 4g LTE Data...not a slot to allow for GSM usage, that is what I was referring to...sorry to confuse anyone.
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im well aware of teh metropcs sgs3 . i was replying with regards to metro's 4g network
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Is the Sprint LTE network even live? LOL...I swear I haven't seen it active anywhere near my area.
But, if indeed it is a Sim Slot for LTE AND International GSM, I can't see how it would just be for International.
From what I've heard, I could be wrong because of bad info, that all the S4s have cdma/gsm chips and is basically a world phone.
I still have a hard time swallowing the fact that MetroPCS SG3's sim slot is really only for LTE...so like, Samsung made that phone ESPECIALLY for the small carrier? Doesn't compute. Maybe on the software end.
So, that's why I'm believing that Sprint's S4 can be tapped for GSM usage, not just for International but for the US...I don't see how if it is unlocked, that it could differentiate between a U.S. sim chip and foreign one.
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they made the SCH-R530, it was used on 3 carriers. we tried everything under the sun and it would not work with any form of sim. and i dont see why the continued attack on metropcs? they are doing a reverse merger with tmobile, as in metropcs is shouldering tmobile (you know the 4th largest carrier?)
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But, if indeed it is a Sim Slot for LTE AND International GSM, I can't see how it would just be for International.
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Very simple, Sprint has the OEM disable the device such that it won't accept any SIMs from any other US carriers and/or program the radio such that it ignores any GSM signal tied to American carriers. This is absolutely nothing new though... Sprint has done this on every Adroid or iOS GSM-capable device they've sold in the past three or four years (HTC TP2, Moto Photon 4G, iPhone...).
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Is the Sprint LTE network even live? LOL...I swear I haven't seen it active anywhere near my area.
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Yes, it's been rolling out slowly for a long time. I live in San Francisco and it's incredibly fast. I'm one of the lucky ones that lives in a major city though.
And for the answer to the rest of your post, read above. ^^
Like I said that was the general consensus of every post I have read here. Hopefully someone can explain it to you more technically if that's what your looking for.
Good luck!
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Thanks for the info guys...I appreciate the comments and feedback on this subject.