[Q] About to Flash WP7 couple of questions - HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an

I have done a ton of reading today but can't seem to find some last answers.
I do apologize, but I've been coming in and out of these forums for years and flashing various phones on occaision so I'm comfortable but no expert.
I have a TMOUS HD2 (yellow reset key) with the stock wm6 rom installed.
I've been running Android MDjGingerbread v.1.0 for a couple months and it's GREAT.
Now I want to try out WP7.
Questions:
1. I have everything downloaded and ready to go but am not sure about the radio. as I understand it I (as a tmous owner) have to MAKE SURE that the radio that's packaged with the WP7 doesn't get written? how do I do that? Or am I confused on this.
2. As I'm currently happy with the install I have on the SD card for android I'm going to remove this SD card prior to flashing WP7 So it doesn't get overwritten. HOWEVER I'm wondering will I be able to re-install this SD card after getting WP7 all set up and unlocked and doing everything needed to the SD card I use for the WP7 install.. .Can I remove that SD card and replace it with the one that has the Android Rom I've had such good luck with? and then boot to that android build from WP7 like I did from Winmo6? Or will I have to sort out a fresh android install to the SD card.
3. Are DFT WP7 roms already registry edited so they appear as HD7's or does that need to be done prior to trying to get an unlock code from MS. If so where's a link to that? I can't seem to find instructions on that.
LASTLY. I understand you can actually run all 3. winmo6 in nand and WP7 partition/Android Partition off the SD card.
What I don't get is if you have to Nand flash the WP7 first to get all the settings straight and copy that install to the partitioned SD card... THEN put the android build I want on the other partition? Or Can WP7 be run from SD card for the whole process? I'd prefer to just leave the stock rom alone. Although obviously not completely against it.
Any/All help is greatly appreciated.
Mods feel free to delete and PM me with links if I missed these answers in an obvious spot.

You do expect a PM from a mod, sending you links to obvious spots?
Hmmm... I guess that won´t happen. But maybe you read too much, overlooking some of the "obvious" spots inside the stickies of each subforum.
Anyway, now to your questions:
1) WP7 ROMs don´t come with Radio ROM parts.
Note: To install MAGLDR, check this thread here. Here you´ll learn about requirements. If you had a NAND Android build, you´ll be familiar with this - but please make sure to use MAGLDR 1.12 or higher with WP7.
2) There is a tutorial to dual boot WP7 and Android: Click!
3) The very first "Leo70" ROM is not jailbroken, virtually all others are
4) No triple boot possible yet, only WP7 and Android or WinMo 6.5 and Android.

Thanks So much.

Shoulda just kept reading. It's up and running 100pct now.
Just got to figure out why I cant get it to see the SD card.
but I think I saw some notes on that. I'll go back and read tomorrow.

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Need Help in HD2

Sorry everyone,
I am new in HD2 i just purchased it few months ago,
i read many threads about dual boot,
but till this moment i cant understand how to dual boot Android on Sd card ,
can any one support with any previous thread that can help.
I would try darkstones 1.5 ram build in this forum. Just follow the instructions.. If your a visual learner search youtube for running android on the HD2 which help you get a feel for what's going on. Can't say any of the android builds are 100% stable but neither is the stock windows mobile 6.5. Being the android build is just a couple of directories on the SD card, it's a simple matter to back them it up and experiment.. if it gets corrupted for some reason just copy the files back over from backup.
Just be sure to run the HSPL hack which will allow you to run different OS's on your HD2, and make sure your radio's are up to date.. I'm still run 2.10 radio (not the 2.15) so even mine's not totally up to date. If older than the 2.10 radio you might want to upgrade that first.
i tried the below android
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881937
everything is look great except that once Android boot a massage indicates that internal memory is full and i cannot do anything for that

would love to have android, but getting very confused!

I am new to putting android on my hd2. I've never done it before. I want to do it. But i'm getting confused with everything that needs to be done. I think i want to do the NAND way, from what i've been reading its faster and i'm not going to want to switch back and forth to winmo.
I understand that you need to have the Hard SPL, MAGLDR installed. Then pick a ROM you would like to try. I'm getting confused cause i dont understand the CWM part. It seems like it is better from the comments and posts, i guess. Do I have to use that? Also I would prefer to not mess with my sd card. I will if i have to, though. Paritions and all that worry me. ha.
I guess I just want a fully functioning android build, that is stable and quick. And want all my sd card files to be there when i get the android up and running (pics, music, etc.) I was liking the DL Desire Series ROM by dandiest, is that one good? are there any better suggestions?
Hopefully I can get this all together, i'm probably going to need a very detailed step by step, down to even the minuscule of actions.
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It's just you have twocays to flash. Depending of the ROM.
If in the title of your thread ROM it's written "DFT" then:
1/ Flash HSPL (to do this start your phone by pressing the vol- key (keep it pressed until you see a 3 colors screen).
Plug usb and flash from your computer.
2/ redo the same process to flash MAGLDR
3/ boot in MAGLDR (press "end call" will booting your phone).
Choose the option "USB flash" (something like this)
4/ flash your NAND build (on your comp launch as admin "DFT.exe" or something like this
If You want to flash a CWM:
Do the same 1, 2 and 3 steps above.
4/ flash CWM from your comp (same, DFT.exe as admin)
5/ start your phone while pressing "end key".
Choose the option "AD recovery" (if CWM 1.13)
CWM will load.
6/ choose option to flash build from zip
Your done.
NB for step 6 you need to have the zip of your build on your SD card of course.
Best is to put it via a card reader. Avoid using MAGLDR to transfer the zip as a lot say it can corrupt big files.
For detail info read the thread of:
HSPL, MAGLDR, CWM and the one of the build you want to install.
do i have to format my sd card? i was reading a thread where i needed to download SDFormatter and gparted-live to get my sd card ready.
tippingvan said:
do i have to format my sd card? i was reading a thread where i needed to download SDFormatter and gparted-live to get my sd card ready.
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You will most likely need to format the sd card. Most of the people you see complaining about android probably don't do it
tippingvan said:
I am new to putting android on my hd2. I've never done it before. I want to do it. But i'm getting confused with everything that needs to be done. I think i want to do the NAND way, from what i've been reading its faster and i'm not going to want to switch back and forth to winmo.
I understand that you need to have the Hard SPL, MAGLDR installed. Then pick a ROM you would like to try. I'm getting confused cause i dont understand the CWM part. It seems like it is better from the comments and posts, i guess. Do I have to use that? Also I would prefer to not mess with my sd card. I will if i have to, though. Paritions and all that worry me. ha.
I guess I just want a fully functioning android build, that is stable and quick. And want all my sd card files to be there when i get the android up and running (pics, music, etc.) I was liking the DL Desire Series ROM by dandiest, is that one good? are there any better suggestions?
Hopefully I can get this all together, i'm probably going to need a very detailed step by step, down to even the minuscule of actions.
Thank you
Thank you
Thank you
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I went thru the process not too long ago and it's a daunting one but worth it. Once you get the HardSPL in place, it's pretty easy to reset everything to the orignal state sans the Hardspl (using Task29) should something goes awry.
tippingvan said:
do i have to format my sd card? i was reading a thread where i needed to download SDFormatter and gparted-live to get my sd card ready.
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You can try without, although it may not work. Of course if it doesn't, your phone us not ruined in any way. just save the files you want to keep then format. I know cwm seems daunting at first (i myself was very hesitant to try it) but trust me, once you get the hang of it, it's simple as can be. Also, I've never used g parted. Don't know why that's there, I don't think it had anything to do with cwm.
As far as partitions, you don't need to partition your card unless you're run out of memory for apps. If you have the us t mobile hd2, you don't even need to worry about this.
If you're talking about partitioning your phone, this is super easy and is just party of the process of flashing your dft. Just choose the dev recommended partition size.
keep in mind that there have been very few, if any, instances of people bricking their hd2. Usually, this has to do with flashing the wrong radio. as long as you flash the correct radio, you should be fine.
Good luck!
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[Q] Do I have to use the SD method if I want to keep Winmo?

I am about to install Android on my HTC HD2, and the advise I was given was that I must use the SD method. I just want to be sure.
I need a system where when I start the Phone Winmo starts up, and then I run another program to run Android, and then I can go back and forth (via reboot or some other way).
Thanks for your advise and information!
Chaz
So far as I know, you'll have to go with the SD variant if you want to keep WinMo. That way, WinMo is only a re-boot away. It's the method I prefer as I'm not so taken with either Android or WinPhone to go for the full NAND flash.
yeah, you would need to use the SD card method, i would recomend using RAM builds because they are very fast!
Yes, you must avoid the NAND versions, cause these will erase your Windows Mobile ROM and replace it by a Android ROM.
Thus, you have to choose a build inside the "HD2 Android SD Development" thread.
But here inside it is not always simple. Cause for some SD builds you will need to flash MAGLDR to be able to boot these builds, while for others the old method of executing CLRCAD and HARET is much simpler.

Purchasing HD2 today and need some newbie pointers

Yes, I did see this sticky with links, but that is by no means a starting point for a total newbie, and by newbie I don't mean someone that's incapable of following instructions, as I've gone through several ROM's on my Pre, G1, myTouch 3G, EPIC 4G, iPhone/3G/3GS. I am just new to WP7 and that sticky doesn't really explain where to start.
Specifically, I am getting a used HD2 with WM6 on it and I want to end up with a dual-bool WM7/Android system on it. I just saw that was possible, but saw different combinations and different methods: WP7 on NAND & Android on SD and viceversa, etc.
Any tips would be appreciated.
First install hspl,than flash a good radio, then magldr,then clockwork mod and then flash a great android rom
Or for win phone stop at magldr and flash win phone ...i know its very short but you will have Tor search for a tutorial for each because there is much to say )).if there is a special question write me a PM
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jonas2295 said:
First install hspl,than flash a good radio, then magldr,then clockwork mod and then flash a great android rom
Or for win phone stop at magldr and flash win phone ...i know its very short but you will have Tor search for a tutorial for each because there is much to say )).if there is a special question write me a PM
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Short yes, but actually, that should give me a starting point, even though it did not explain which OS I should flash on NAND and which on SD or why, which sounds like one of the first things I need to decide. But yes, I guess I will need to do a lot of reading before knowing my path. Thanks.
Hi,
First of all you can't have WM7 and Android at the same time, or else, if you had a TMOUs you will find some tutorials to doi it.
I recommend you to search, you will find aht you are looking for.
At xda-developers.com first page you will find a link to how to do it... ok I give you a tip : http://www.xda-developers.com/android/complete-guide-to-installing-nand-android-on-hd2/
And I think this is not the correct forum to ask this
See you
ok lets clear this up, HSPL, radio, MAGLDR, flash WP7, then follow tutorial to install android as well
Ive not bothered, since i moved to WP7 from android you couldnt pay me to go back, but i think the process is basically, install WP7 with a working small SD card, take SD card and clone it to a bigger SD card and then install android on the SD, there are plenty of tutorials on all this,.
also to be clear, you MUST install WP7 to NAND, it uses the SD card as well, you cant use it just on SD, so if you want android its (or it was the last time i checked) NAND+SD for WP7 and a alternate partition for android.
OK, doest your purchase seems to you as some sort of DEVELOPMENT? I guess not. SO why the hell are you placing your question in development section?
And are you joking about that you dont know where to start? You want dual boot WP7 device. Ok, what about looking for a thread about -fanfare- how to dual boot WP7 and android? And yes, it is present on this forum and I gues it has sticky on it.
YOU ARE LAZY!
dazza9075 said:
ok lets clear this up, HSPL, radio, MAGLDR, flash WP7, then follow tutorial to install android as well
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You might have to flash a older original hd2 rom first(1.66....something).
chumaj001 said:
OK, doest your purchase seems to you as some sort of DEVELOPMENT? I guess not. SO why the hell are you placing your question in development section?
And are you joking about that you dont know where to start? You want dual boot WP7 device. Ok, what about looking for a thread about -fanfare- how to dual boot WP7 and android? And yes, it is present on this forum and I gues it has sticky on it.
YOU ARE LAZY!
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The man has got a point.
chumaj001 said:
OK, doest your purchase seems to you as some sort of DEVELOPMENT? I guess not. SO why the hell are you placing your question in development section?
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Because I'm USING developers' work and asking them about it, like 90% of the users of this forum. Not everyone who posts here is a cook.
chumaj001 said:
And are you joking about that you dont know where to start? You want dual boot WP7 device. Ok, what about looking for a thread about -fanfare- how to dual boot WP7 and android? And yes, it is present on this forum and I gues it has sticky on it.
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Definitely not joking and that thread (which isn't stickied, by the way) is hardly the starting point I'm looking for, since it starts assuming you already have Gingerbread on your HD2 and you know that's now how they come from HTC or your local carrier. See part 1 video for yourself.
chumaj001 said:
YOU ARE LAZY!
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No need for this.
caedanne said:
First of all you can't have WM7 and Android at the same time, or else, if you had a TMOUs you will find some tutorials to doi it.
I recommend you to search, you will find aht you are looking for.
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Searching is how I found out you definitely can have both.
It should be in general,
but just used two working SD cards it easy one for wm7 on nand and the other for Android on SD
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Your solution lies here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913815
if you want to run both wp7 and android it is possible but you will have to flash wp7 nand as uptill now it is the only way to flash wp7 on (nand) and android on your sd card that way you will have both the worlds..
So I have both WP7 and Android booting now (woohoo!), but I still have one problem left, as explained in this thread. Could you guys advise? Thank you.
Here's your problem.
it looks like you didn't have an SD card in your phone when you flashed WP7 or something, you should have like a 3.5gb "unknown" partition if u used a 4gb card the first time. Here's how are/were supposed to do it.
Flash WP7 with a smaller micro SD card than you plan on using (you have to use 2 micro SD cards for this to work, one "big" and one "small") let's use a 4gb for this example and a 16gb.
put your 4gb small microsd in the phone and flash WP7, load up WP7 for the first time and do some set-up.
turn off your phone
put the 4GB card into your computer's SD card reader, and open up that partition manager, you will see a 3.5gb partition. If you have another card reader put in your 16gb and copy the parition from the 4gb to the 16gb, if you don't have a card reader then copy it to your PC or any flash drive with more than 4gb, then take out the 4gb micro sd and put in the 16.
copy the 3.5 partition to your 16gb big card and when it's done, you should see like 11gb unallocated and 3.5 unknown and 200mb ntfs or something.
resize the 200mb as high as you can (11.5gb) or something), then reformat it to fat32.
copy your Android build to the new fat 32 and put the 16gb card back into your phone.
You should now be good to go. WP7 has 3.5gb of space and Android has 11.5 or something. Do not EVER start WP7 without this SD card in there or it will hard reset and you will have no space for WP7
I am finishing the entire process again. This time, I used a different guide for the partitioning. It's very similar, but I think there's one little step in this one that was excluded from the other one and it's critical. Specifically, I'm referring to steps 2, 3 and 7 of Method # 3. Basically, after you've done the partitions in step 4, you must let WP7 reset again. I actually forgot this and experienced the 10GB... 10MB problem again. At that point, I manually reset settings again and was able to get my exact total and available storage right after the phone booted back up. Right now, I'm booting up my Android OS for the first time, but I did boot up WP7 twice successfully, with the right storage amounts.

HOW TO INSTALL ANDROID to internal memory, currently on SD card

can someone link me a how to or guide, i have the android on my sd running smoothly but i beed a guide on how to install it to the phones internal memory, i mean do i have to install windows stock rom in order to get it on the phone? or can i install it like it is now??? i just dont see any info on this partiicalluar situation
you cant (easily) move an sd build onto nand. You would probably do better to backup your contacts and stuff and go find a NAND rom you like the look of. start fresh.
i guess what im asking is there anything i need to do to prepare the device for the internal android install? i dont wanna copy and paste the install from sd to internal but im asking do i need to install windows 6.5 the original rom first or ican i just flasj it aka load it how my phone is now??? this i havent encoutered yet, and i want to make sure im doing all my steps right, if i need to just find a rom (NAND) and install it how they say???
and btw, the sd andorid version said it was nand but just on a sd build, weird huh? lol im also hearing that some of the sd builds are running faster than the NAND internal ones, can anyone speak of this?
ah well you may find that there are two download links in the thread perhaps? cant really comment, never taken much notice of sd android, , it never worked through haret/winmo for me, so i went straight to nand.
im using the gingerbread 2.3.7. by the way, is there any new ones or ones that you reccomend? im not picky just want somethign stable, fast and nice, htc sense or not doesnt matter let me know NAND btw
geezy21unc said:
im using the gingerbread 2.3.7. by the way, is there any new ones or ones that you reccomend? im not picky just want somethign stable, fast and nice, htc sense or not doesnt matter let me know NAND btw
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which one? half the roms are 2.3.7, just saying 'im on gingerbread 2.3.7' doesnt help much, , ,, far better to give the name, since there are so many variants.
here is the one i have
http://hottipscentral.com/how-to-install-android-gingerbread-2-3-7-on-the-t-mobile-htc-hd2/
is that the process you followed? If yes, then its already on nand rom. That article is about flashing typhoon (one of the most popular roms) to nand.
yes i followed it to a Tee, lol so your saying its already on the internal phone memory??? ok then so your saying i can take out my SD and it will still boot? hmmm and typoon is what the zip file i have says, can you help me a bit further im following you so far but want to make sure im seeing this right and doiong it step by step thx for replying
watch the video at the bottom of the page from youtube thats on there, thats the step i followed
sorry this is the one i have installed not sure how i got the other , but this is the correct one :Cyanogen MOD 7 Gingerbread 2.3.7
yea thats NAND. there isn't an sd version of typhoon.
yes you can take your sd out and it should boot. (if you have an EXT partition on your sd card ((i didn't watch the whole vid, but it wasn't mentioned)) then any apps you have installed wont be there till you reinsert teh sd card.)
you need to read read read, there are four or five important parts to nand android.
bookmark THIS starting point, and start browsing threads in the Q&A section and NAND development.
basically, your key components are
hspl 2.08.hspl - don't touch this again, android wont work on any other.
radio - fine, you wont need to touch this again any time soon, as with the hspl.
magldr, hold power to start it, the only option you will use is 8 - ad recovery, which starts cwm
cwm (cwr, clockworkmod clockwork, clockwork recovery) which is what starts when you choose AD recovery in magldr, you flash your roms from here, wipe your data from here, factory reset (back to android, not a real factory reset), , you can usb transfer in cwm, the one in magldr corrupts large files.
The cwm 'partition size' is 150 ( i think thats what he chose?) This is the inportant piece of info you need if changing to a different rom, since different roms need different sized system partitions.
You can change this in the tookit you used.
thx thx and thx!!! thats what i needed to know
Check out EasyAndroid, with it you can flash NAND Android from stock HD2 in 30min.
I like useing the clk loader as you do not see it load as you boot the phone, and you can use the android boot to recovery option.
if you already have and SD Android i would download TitaniumBackup and make a backup of all of your aps, as you can use this to save your aps across any Android Rom.
Have fun with NAND Android,
ive thanked everyone that has responded to this thread why does my thanks meter still say 0...lame
geezy21unc said:
ive thanked everyone that has responded to this thread why does my thanks meter still say 0...lame
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Lol mate, that's how many thanks you've received, not how many people you've thanked. i.e. if someone thanks you, your thanks meter increases. If you thank someone else, nothing is affected for you, only for the other person. Hope that's cleared it up
geezy21unc said:
ive thanked everyone that has responded to this thread why does my thanks meter still say 0...lame
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Don't get mad bro As soon as you understand all these NAND and android things you can help new members, they will thank you when you help them

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