Why don't any of the MT4G devs use ROM Manager? - myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Only the CM team does. I wanted to fool around with some eye-candy.

read a few reasons before.....all I do now a days is just download the rom directly from the phone. Move the file to root of sd card and go ahead flash away. Works out well for me, if any issues just nandroid back to previous.

TheBiles said:
Only the CM team does. I wanted to fool around with some eye-candy.
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You would have to ask the devs of specifics ROMs you are interested in directly. Maybe they are too busy to support integration in a 3rd party app? Maybe they don't want their ROM to be "that" point-and-click as it would cause even more support requests than they already receive?
No one knows but them. Really, it's not hard to download a zip (even from your phone browser!), reboot to recovery, and hit flash.

Kline said:
You would have to ask the devs of specifics ROMs you are interested in directly. Maybe they are too busy to support integration in a 3rd party app? Maybe they don't want their ROM to be "that" point-and-click as it would cause even more support requests than they already receive?
No one knows but them. Really, it's not hard to download a zip (even from your phone browser!), reboot to recovery, and hit flash.
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True that it isn't that hard, but I'm that lazy.

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Modaco alpha3 test rom is up

Here is the link to the page Thanx P!! SCROLL DOWN TO POST 59!!! No Wifi though...Be thankful folks. ...And yes IT IS A WORKING DESIRE ALPHA ROM....NO BOOT LOOPS FOR ME
To the Mods....Just sharing the love
Something to live for...
Okay So of course if your here is beacuse your waiting for modaco to release the new alpha, well alpha three was released as you see above and with the alpha2 boot image all the communications are locked down.
Here are some screen shots of this Beauty. I will Spread them around once everything is up and running. Also I have placed the alpha2 img.. for you to download...
Just unzip this and flash this via fastboot only after you have just flashed the alpha** rom.. K?
K.
Does Flash work?
If so, how well does Hulu work?
Paul22000 said:
Does Flash work?
If so, how well does Hulu work?
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Its loads the flash but so far i can't get a video to play. It says Video unavailable or something. Im sure someone will get a way to work. I don't think it will be too smooth though honestly.
Little By little we pile up in here now, and THIS IS GENERAL SO MOD, LEAVE IT BE.... Now, I say that it is a good move.. I notcied that if i flash the alpha2 boot it works as its on but if you reboot were back to the white screen so, guess this is being worked out.
Besides that.. I kept a Nadroid of the one without alpha2 and then run the one with it. I have not switched back to another rom SINCE!!!
Addition: If you have the alpha 3 rom and you flash the alpha2 img.. you will end up back at the white screen upon reboot.. No biggie, just have to revert to your alpha3 nandroid (WHICH SHOULD HAVE MADE BY NOW) and flash it again. So runn it lightly until P comes through tomorrow, well a few hours for him, and see where this goes...
Hitorii said:
Its loads the flash but so far i can't get a video to play. It says Video unavailable or something. Im sure someone will get a way to work. I don't think it will be too smooth though honestly.
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Aw man.... That's the thing I was mostly looking forward to
Imagine iPhone users' looks when they see that
Poop.
Did you try switching browser user agent to Desktop btw? Or try Dolphin?
Nandroid Back Up
Hey, How can I get this to be a Nandroid so I can Megupload this... This way people can run it with everything done.. I mean apps, paid, free, better keyboard, root explorer, jesus the list rides...
I wanted to do that do everyone can have a one click solution and just run the rom right from when they sign in with everything...
Just asking...
Honestly, I see flash in this as in or out thing.. I searched on google for best flash sites and got some water site, marc ecko, etc... This showed on the device with all of it working.. Many sites i should work.. I just dont know where the median is on this. I cant tell.
Hey JesusCat could you please link us to an alpha3 download?
It looks like Google Voice isn't working for calls, I still dial out with my normal number not my GV number.
I don't believe you would be able to post that nandroid on here in accordance to the rules on warez.
david1171 said:
I don't believe you would be able to post that nandroid on here in accordance to the rules on warez.
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LoL If id post my nandroid youd have half of android market offline xD. All bought ofcourse!
Can't do so sir...
tontonHD said:
Hey JesusCat could you please link us to an alpha3 download?
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Just look up.. The first post has the alpha three, post #59... Take care of it from there and you should be fine... Nice to see you TonTon...
JesusCat Out... LOL
david1171 said:
I don't believe you would be able to post that nandroid on here in accordance to the rules on warez.
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If the nandroid did infact include paid apps then right you are sir
Thanks There Buddy Transformer...
Ryanmo5 said:
If the nandroid did infact include paid apps then right you are sir
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Well Thanks For the info.. I kind of needed to have this clear, so when i get a chance I will make a working Nandroid...
Nandroid Back Up
Okay, My wife sort of talked to me and made sense.. Instead of doing it with everything I will get it to where you have to sign in and download all your apps or crawl back from SD. I will get a Nandroid Up in the Morning as soon as I see something from P. This way you could have it this simple way too. I guess i will be helping him out with a simple one click push of his mods...
GodDriven said:
Okay, My wife sort of talked to me and made sense.. Instead of doing it with everything I will get it to where you have to sign in and download all your apps or crawl back from SD. I will get a Nandroid Up in the Morning as soon as I see something from P. This way you could have it this simple way too. I guess i will be helping him out with a simple one click push of his mods...
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How would this be different from having to wipe and flash the ROM? The main reason I am saying this, is because on the G1, restoring nandroids from another G1 would result in some hardware issues sometimes, so I wonder if this would persist on the N1.
Almost There...
david1171 said:
How would this be different from having to wipe and flash the ROM? The main reason I am saying this, is because on the G1, restoring nandroids from another G1 would result in some hardware issues sometimes, so I wonder if this would persist on the N1.
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Well, this is the case.. It all works the same... All nexus are the same, depending on personal daily abuse... I could do this and get it done, but, after thinking, discussing and addressing the situation.. i would say there is no diff in flashing versus the nandroid. I just wanted to make it easier, but, as my lady said, lets let it be Modaco's game...
Only his..
I can report Orb works both via browser & the new
Orb app, wifi only so far, but that may be my server settings.
is it possible to pull the livewallpaper.apk out and install it on an unrooted nexus one?
MENDEH said:
is it possible to pull the livewallpaper.apk out and install it on an unrooted nexus one?
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A quick look into the livewallpaper.apk from modaco's rom shows no differences from stock nexus livewallpaper.apk.

Help Build ROM!!

So during the time was ban on XDA for flaming Noob. I have had the time to take a rom of my liking and personalize it to what I believe to be the perfect rom, well for me at least. Now that have everything all together I want to share my creation with the world and Good people here on XDA. But I have no idea how to make everything in to a DOT .zip file. I need help and I was wondering if anyone would care to help me.
What will be included in the rom:
GB launcher2
Galaxy tab TWlauncher clone
OC 1.2ghz Kernel w/ universal lagfixes
Gingerbread style theme w/ a little color
GPS fix
swype
Gb keyboard w/ working vibration and sound
boot-animation.zip
Avatar Movie app
Sims3 app and sims3.apk
Rom manager
Xda app
Root explorer
Superuser
New market app
Android 2.2.1
and more.....
This rom will be a mix of Eugene and masters roms so all thank goes to them and a couple other people on the forum.
Thank You
sader2202 said:
So during the time was ban on XDA for flaming Noob. I have had the time to take a rom of my liking and personalize it to what I believe to be the perfect rom, well for me at least. Now that have everything all together I want to share my creation with the world and Good people here on XDA. But I have no idea how to make everything in to a DOT .zip file. I need help and I was wondering if anyone would care to help me.
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Hi. I think you'll find a lot of support on XDA for building your own ROM and/or for theming. You've covered a lot of different areas in terms of what you want to do. I have a few recommendations.
1. Do a quick search, either here or in Google, on how to build Android ROMs. There's a lot of good information out there and some of it might resonate with you in terms of how they explain things. That said, if all you're doing is changing a few files around; files you already have, then you would simply add them to, or replace the existing ones from a ROM you like. Just be sure to connect with the developers of that ROM so you can give credit where credit is due. Or, you could start with the Stock ROM and do it that way. But, in either case, you would be essentially using WinZip or some similar app to build the .zip file as you'd like to see it.
2. Consider hooking up with one of the existing developers and start making contributions to their work. That would give you a chance to work with some of the best people who are already doing what you want to do. I think in that case, it wouldn't take too long for you to come up to speed on who they've approached things. Also, this helps you from making some novice mistakes that I'm sure they've made along the way.
Lastly, consider the "value add" of your ROM over those that are already available. If you build something and no one has heard of you and then they don't see your ROM as having anything better or different to offer, then people might not want to use it. For example, Team Whiskey has Obsidian. Then they released Onyx. However, Onyx was materially different than Obsidian in that they removed a lot of the TouchWiz based theming and T-Mobile applications. So, a lot of people saw value in that.
Anyway, good luck. I'm sure you'll have a lot of fun!
This thing sounds quite nice! Would you be interested in posting the 2.2.1 build you got your hands on and the GB KB with Vibration? I haven't seen either of those elsewhere.
vinnydakid said:
This thing sounds quite nice! Would you be interested in posting the 2.2.1 build you got your hands on and the GB KB with Vibration? I haven't seen either of those elsewhere.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=845162
updated version has vibration
accidently hit thanks
sader2202 said:
So during the time was ban on XDA for flaming Noob. I have had the time to take a rom of my liking and personalize it to what I believe to be the perfect rom, well for me at least. Now that have everything all together I want to share my creation with the world and Good people here on XDA. But I have no idea how to make everything in to a DOT .zip file. I need help and I was wondering if anyone would care to help me.
What will be included in the rom:
GB launcher2
Galaxy tab TWlauncher clone
OC 1.2ghz Kernel w/ universal lagfixes
Gingerbread style theme w/ a little color
GPS fix
swype
Gb keyboard w/ working vibration and sound
boot-animation.zip
Avatar Movie app
Sims3 app and sims3.apk
Rom manager
Xda app
Root explorer
Superuser
New market app
Android 2.2.1
and more.....
Thank You
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First, google WINRAR and download it.
Then select all your files, right click and click ARCHIVE and then choose location, name, and wait until its done, and it'll be in a .zip.
Root Explorer is not a free app, so you may want to reconsider adding that as part of your ROM.
wannagofast said:
Root Explorer is not a free app, so you may want to reconsider adding that as part of your ROM.
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Oops thanks for the heads up. I've been using it so much that i forgot that i brought it.
xriderx66 said:
First, google WINRAR and download it.
Then select all your files, right click and click ARCHIVE and then choose location, name, and wait until its done, and it'll be in a .zip.
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Thanks i had that install in my pc. thanks again.
xriderx66 said:
First, google WINRAR and download it.
Then select all your files, right click and click ARCHIVE and then choose location, name, and wait until its done, and it'll be in a .zip.
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wannagofast said:
Root Explorer is not a free app, so you may want to reconsider adding that as part of your ROM.
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Following the steps above, able to get him to do his ROM.
So this thread is no longer necessary!
Thanks for the help and feedback of all!
Closed Thread!

Is there anything better than..

The ROM manager to flash ROMS?
Please don't make useless threads.
AraqirG said:
Please don't make useless threads.
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Especially ones with an enticing title.
jxr94 said:
Especially ones with an enticing title.
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and here i was thinking that this was going to be about beer and women.
PhlaEVOr said:
The ROM manager to flash ROMS?
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It's the only thing to flash roms. You can do what most do and flash manually through recovery.
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Grow a pair and flash in Amon_Ra recovery?
MikeC84 said:
It's the only thing to flash roms. You can do what most do and flash manually through recovery.
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I can second that. Its always better and safer to flash through recovery. Not to take anything away from rom manager, it's reliable also.
Sent by my Evo running Pure Google.
I totally thought a sweet new tiger striped case was hitting the market.
rstuckmaier said:
Grow a pair and flash in Amon_Ra recovery?
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What is "thongs and mini skirts"?
... wait flashing ROMs? Ohhh and I wagered all but $1 too ....
Fa sho good lookin out.. Peeps... Beer n women ... +1
My band wagon is full, u can run behind it.
Justin.G11 said:
What is "thongs and mini skirts"?
... wait flashing ROMs? Ohhh and I wagered all but $1 too ....
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***Correction*** I think you mean "crotchless panties" and mini skirts.
To be serious though, it depends on what you mean by "better". ROM Manager seems to be popular because it's easy and doesn't require you to flash a zip from recovery mode. I personally like to just boot into recovery and flash because it's simple and flexible. A lot of ROMs I use come with ROM manager but it always says it will not work until I install Clockwork Recovery. Since I prefer to keep Amon Ra I just don't use ROM Manager anymore. Those are the only two ways I've personally done it but there are variations.
If you need ROM Manager to flash your ROMs, you should not have rooted your phone in the first place. End of story.
rstuckmaier said:
Grow a pair and flash in Amon_Ra recovery?
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drmacinyasha said:
If you need ROM Manager to flash your ROMs, you should not have rooted your phone in the first place. End of story.
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I can also build my own house from foundation to shingles ... doesn't mean I want to.
There seems to be an obsession at times that automation is somehow bad. Yeah I know how to reboot into recovery and flash. It's not that hard at all. But really unless you also wrote and compiled that ZIP yourself are you really doing much more worth making some silly elite notoriety out of?
Just saying after awhile it's really nice to simply select "download ROM", pick a flavor, check the boxes of bundled options and let it do the rest. Sure I didn't manually find them in a browser, download them, reboot into recovery, wipe, and flash individually while renaming each file (wouldn't want to cheat and use CWM or RA)... but so what?
Anyway, I know you bolded "need" ... so I may have picked out the wrong post, but sometimes i think a lot of the RA Recovery fans are needlessly proud and critical of other methods to a silly extent.
Justin.G11 said:
I can also build my own house from foundation to shingles ... doesn't mean I want to.
There seems to be an obsession at times that automation is somehow bad. Yeah I know how to reboot into recovery and flash. It's not that hard at all. But really unless you also wrote and compiled that ZIP yourself are you really doing much more worth making some silly elite notoriety out of?
Just saying after awhile it's really nice to simply select "download ROM", pick a flavor, check the boxes of bundled options and let it do the rest. Sure I didn't manually find them in a browser, download them, reboot into recovery, wipe, and flash individually while renaming each file (wouldn't want to cheat and use CWM or RA)... but so what?
Anyway, I know you bolded "need" ... so I may have picked out the wrong post, but sometimes i think a lot of the RA Recovery fans are needlessly proud and critical of other methods to a silly extent.
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You took what he wrote completely out of context. I agree with some of your points though!
Justin.G11 said:
I can also build my own house from foundation to shingles ... doesn't mean I want to.
There seems to be an obsession at times that automation is somehow bad. Yeah I know how to reboot into recovery and flash. It's not that hard at all. But really unless you also wrote and compiled that ZIP yourself are you really doing much more worth making some silly elite notoriety out of?
Just saying after awhile it's really nice to simply select "download ROM", pick a flavor, check the boxes of bundled options and let it do the rest. Sure I didn't manually find them in a browser, download them, reboot into recovery, wipe, and flash individually while renaming each file (wouldn't want to cheat and use CWM or RA)... but so what?
Anyway, I know you bolded "need" ... so I may have picked out the wrong post, but sometimes i think a lot of the RA Recovery fans are needlessly proud and critical of other methods to a silly extent.
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Amon Ra fans?? There is also Clockwork Mod recovery fans too. And I agree, if you only thought that you could flash your phone through Rom Manager, then someone needs to do some more reading before they just post a thread in the wrong section and didnt even search. Then again, I wish I was the fly on the wall when they really do something they arent supposed to without reading.
Chocolate syrup and Chinese food...
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I actually started out with Rom Manager, but then I became weary if it actually wipes the device properly. I flashed to Amon and now I feel secure to be able to control what I'm wiping.

[Q] Requests

I guess this thread can be a simple way for us to ask one of the devs the difficulty of a specific task that they may want completed... Not really demanding it or anything, but just seeing if it is possible/probable
So, may i ask just how hard it would be to port the "ClockworkMod Recovery (3/30/11 Bugfix)" from the fascinate to the continuum? i am just curious, because i spend a decent amount of time in ClockWork just backing up and such, and that looks niceee
Also, kinda going along with the other request, is there a way to get the kernel that had CWM built into it working without the video problems when entering CWM?
Lastly, the Reboot Options... I hope that we can get that working too
Thank you again Devs for looking at our phones And we appreciate all you do for us
trailblazer101 said:
I guess this thread can be a simple way for us to ask one of the devs the difficulty of a specific task that they may want completed... Not really demanding it or anything, but just seeing if it is possible/probable
So, may i ask just how hard it would be to port the "ClockworkMod Recovery (3/30/11 Bugfix)" from the fascinate to the continuum? i am just curious, because i spend a decent amount of time in ClockWork just backing up and such, and that looks niceee
Also, kinda going along with the other request, is there a way to get the kernel that had CWM built into it working without the video problems when entering CWM?
Lastly, the Reboot Options... I hope that we can get that working too
Thank you again Devs for looking at our phones And we appreciate all you do for us
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i know imnuts is working on reboot options for ya....as for the rest...hopefully
rooting
Also if ive tried all unroot / root Fashions available does this mean my phone is unrootable? and how do you know if you have root i know on my hero it changed a version number on my continuum it didnt change anything but insisted on saying i had root access when i know i did not. because i did not have access when i tried to install the clockwork recovery posted by adryn
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i know imnuts is working on reboot options for ya....as for the rest...hopefully
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I need to find a time one of you themers are online in IRC to try and get that fixed. All of my attempts have resulted in them not working so far. I think the issue is in android.policy.jar as that is what I've been able to capture as the issue with logcat.
Also, I'm working on fixing recovery for you guys and just posted a topic so you can pick the color you want it to be.
Can't wait until all of this comes into motion
Thanks again man!

Paranoid Installer Like CyanogenMod

Yesterday i saw CyanogenMod Installer app for android...
It is quite helpful for those who are flashing roms first time on their device after rooting...
This app also tells them whether a Cyanogen rom is available for their device or not...
I m currently working on paranoid if this feature is added to PA source itself then it will cause pain for other roms...
This will be a arsenal for paranoidsss...
Have a look at CM installer
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.cyanogenmod.oneclick
I m not promoting CM but giving u all idea atleast...
It won't cause pain for other roms. People are not exactly lined up waiting for an installer for PA before they can flash it. Not to mention CM devs are quite open to using roms other than CM after using their installer. Its about more than just flashing your favorite rom. its about having a choice other than what your carrier forces you into. And since devs often borrow features from other ROMs, this would hardly be pain for other roms. As tools make developement easier, i think we will see more roms or at least modified roms that have peoples own touch added to them.
Installer will be great for newbies...
theroadrunner said:
It won't cause pain for other roms. People are not exactly lined up waiting for an installer for PA before they can flash it. Not to mention CM devs are quite open to using roms other than CM after using their installer. Its about more than just flashing your favorite rom. its about having a choice other than what your carrier forces you into. And since devs often borrow features from other ROMs, this would hardly be pain for other roms. As tools make developement easier, i think we will see more roms or at least modified roms that have peoples own touch added to them.
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if a rom offers an installer app then it will attract new users who havent flashed custom roms yet...this what i meant..
Custom ROM Installer
I think that an Automatic Installer for the first flashers would be indeed "comforting" Because I've started to flash custom roms recently and my first one was a pain, not because of the steps....The steps for installing the recovery tool and all are pretty easy and all. But we have the feeling we are going to brick the device at the first flash! hehe Maybe an automatic installer that detects your device model would be kinda safe for unexperienced users...
But nowadays I find it nice to manually flash roms, keep backups, etc...
Oh well...not a bad idea at all in my opinion ;}
That CM Installer is stupid. I used and thought when it said, it will delete your things. I processed that as the normal factory reset in TWRP for a clean flash. Apparently it was a full freaking wipe. Lost everything. I think that process they used it unnessesary.
moneyolo said:
That CM Installer is stupid. I used and thought when it said, it will delete your things. I processed that as the normal factory reset in TWRP for a clean flash. Apparently it was a full freaking wipe. Lost everything. I think that process they used it unnessesary.
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I don't understand why they needed to wipe the SD card, but you should have read the instructions and backed up your data before installing...
Just as an FYI, the still-in-progress Omni installer is going to be designed such that it can be used by any project. (And cooperation with other projects for inputs is welcome!)
I'm not working on it myself, it's xplodwild's baby - but as an example, there's serious consideration of hooking it into XDA's devdb, although I think it'll require some dependencies metadata to be added to devdb for it to work. (e.g. automagically handle gapps).
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I don't understand why they needed to wipe the SD card, but you should have read the instructions and backed up your data before installing...
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Yeah, that was my fault aswell.
Now it will help..
Entropy512 said:
Just as an FYI, the still-in-progress Omni installer is going to be designed such that it can be used by any project. (And cooperation with other projects for inputs is welcome!)
I'm not working on it myself, it's xplodwild's baby - but as an example, there's serious consideration of hooking it into XDA's devdb, although I think it'll require some dependencies metadata to be added to devdb for it to work. (e.g. automagically handle gapps).
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Now CyanogenMod team made their Installer Open to all https://github.com/cyngn/OneClickAndroid
this will surely give ideas to other rom developers how to do it in a better way... thnxxx to CyanogenMod
anurag.dev1512 said:
Now CyanogenMod team made their Installer Open to all https://github.com/cyngn/OneClickAndroid
this will surely give ideas to other rom developers how to do it in a better way... thnxxx to CyanogenMod
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FYI, don't go thanking CM just yet....that source they shared is just for the app which all it does is enable USB debugging hahaha
Is not the source for the installer which I believe is a msi or exe
wait i will check ...
Mazda said:
FYI, don't go thanking CM just yet....that source they shared is just for the app which all it does is enable USB debugging hahaha
Is not the source for the installer which I believe is a msi or exe
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thnxxx for notifying me... i havent checked the source but i will check now...
nice!

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