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I have a question about the MicroSD cards you can buy for the Wing. Once I realized it was a good idea to have one for the wing (didn't take me long), I had one sent to me via UPS from some website. I got a 2GB. Anyway! My question is.. if I put the card in my phone, does it act as phone memory? Can I actually install .cab's and stuff ON the card and run them like they were actually installed on the phone?
Basically what i'm asking is if putting a MicroSD card into the wing is like putting a hard drive into a computer. It's not just a card to store things on, it's a card that acts as actual memory and you can install things on it too, right?
Today I kept getting pop-ups saying I had low memory. It was annoying as hell, so I uninstalled a few programs until I get my card. They were things I used like battery status and larger start menu, but oh well. I can do without them for a few days.
I know there's "Storage" memory and then there's "Program" memory. The Storage was at 0MB free and that's why I kept getting those pop-ups. My Program is at 18.34MB free.
Thanks in advance.
itslinx said:
I have a question about the MicroSD cards you can buy for the Wing. Once I realized it was a good idea to have one for the wing (didn't take me long), I had one sent to me via UPS from some website. I got a 2GB. Anyway! My question is.. if I put the card in my phone, does it act as phone memory? Can I actually install .cab's and stuff ON the card and run them like they were actually installed on the phone?
Basically what i'm asking is if putting a MicroSD card into the wing is like putting a hard drive into a computer. It's not just a card to store things on, it's a card that acts as actual memory and you can install things on it too, right?
Today I kept getting pop-ups saying I had low memory. It was annoying as hell, so I uninstalled a few programs until I get my card. They were things I used like battery status and larger start menu, but oh well. I can do without them for a few days.
I know there's "Storage" memory and then there's "Program" memory. The Storage was at 0MB free and that's why I kept getting those pop-ups. My Program is at 18.34MB free.
Yes, to answer your question, the microsd card is just like a hard drive. That's where you will prob want to store most of you applications, music, games, etc. This frees up memory on your main drive. I also have my camera setup to put photos on it too. I also keep a backup of all my cab files on my card. Whenever you have a card present, and you install a program, you get the option of installing on the card or the main drive. I believe our phones will take up to an 8 gig. I have 4 and it works great.
Thanks in advance.
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Yes, to answer your question, the microsd card is just like a hard drive. That's where you will prob want to store most of you applications, music, games, etc. This frees up memory on your main drive. I also have my camera setup to put photos on it too. I also keep a backup of all my cab files on my card. Whenever you have a card present, and you install a program, you get the option of installing on the card or the main drive. I believe our phones will take up to an 8 gig. I have 4 and it works great.
dougstoner said:
Yes, to answer your question, the microsd card is just like a hard drive. That's where you will prob want to store most of you applications, music, games, etc. This frees up memory on your main drive. I also have my camera setup to put photos on it too. I also keep a backup of all my cab files on my card. Whenever you have a card present, and you install a program, you get the option of installing on the card or the main drive. I believe our phones will take up to an 8 gig. I have 4 and it works great.
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I see. Thanks for the response. So I guess it would make more sense for me to uninstall everything I installed on my phone and reinstall it all on my card instead? That way most of my actual phone memory is free and it's all on the card? Any idea how much free memory there is to start off on the phone anyway? And what's the difference exactly between Storage and Program memory? I know Storage says Total: 31.44 MB and Program says Total: 47.89 MB. Is that how much the phone gives you to start with?
it will not merge with your storage
and memory is mainly what we call application mem like ram in a computer
not the harddrive
cabs should at install time ask if one wish to install to storage or sdcard
Hi guys,
The version of CoPilot Live 8 that comes installed on the HD2 is something I wish to use. I have a license key (had purchase this a while ago). I have managed to activate my license on the HD2 but cannot for the life of me figure out how to get the latest maps onto the device.
I have RTFM and searched and I still don't get it, am I being really stupid? Any help on getting the latest maps onto my device (SD card I presume) would be much appreciated.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5207395&postcount=16
There may be an issue with my method, I will report back as soon as I have investigated. I suggest not using this guide until I have found what the issue is and if there is a fix/solution.
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Right guys, the method below does work but you need a fair amount of patience. The guide below has been updated.
Do everything shown in the guide below and your maps will download. It will take a fair amount of time depending on the follow:
1. The size of the maps you are downloading.
2. The speed of your broadband connection.
READ THE WHOLE GUIDE BEFORE DOING ANYTHING!!!!
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You have a new HD2 with CoPilot Live 8 preinstalled (I think this is the case for ALL new HD2s as CoPilot Live 8 is cooked into the default/official ROM.
You already have a CoPilot Live 8 license (that you perhaps used on a previous device etc) that covers you for regions other than the one that comes preinstalled on the SD card that comes in the box.
You want to use your existing license and map regions on your shiney new HD2.
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1. Deactivate the license on your old device by doing in the following:a. Launch CoPilot
b. Menu -> Settings->Licencing. Press deactivate (you need to have an internet connection active for this to work, I used WiFi).
c. You should see a message the confirms the deactivation has been successful.2. Before you do anything on your HD2 with CoPilot I suggest copying the "copilot" folder on the bundled 2GB SD card onto your desired card (I used an 8GB Sandisk that I used to use with my Touch Pro). You can skip this step if you just want to use the bundled card and there is enough space for any additional maps you want/need to download.
3. Make sure your HD2 has an internet connection, once again I suggest using WiFi for speed and stability reasons.
4. Make sure your HD2 is connected to a power supply to keep it "awake". Not sure if this is really necessary.
5. Fire up CoPilot and follow the on-screen instructions.
6. Enter your license key when prompted, followed by the email address and password you used on the old device.
7. Your HD2 installation of CoPilot should now be activated (as indicated by an on-screen confirmation).
8. Press Menu->Download Maps: Now select the map/region you desire (this will be dictated/limited by the license code you enter I believe). Once you do this the download will commence but you will (I did) get thrown back to the map screen showing your location. Once again press Menu->Download Maps. You should now see a progress indicator and the title at the top of the page should show "Download In Progress".
9. After you complete step 8 below you will see a progress indicator in CoPilot in the "Download Maps" section as stated above. This will obviously creep up as your map is downloaded. When this progress bar reaches the end it may appear to become "stuck", it will not move for sometime. At this point do not lose heart and be patient, VERY patient!
During this time I think the device is making a copy of the file it just downloaded, I dont know why and I dont know how, because looking in file explorer the two files are named EXACTLY the same and within the same folder?! How is this even possible?
The only thought I have on this is that perhaps it's doing some weird check/checksum on the downloaded file. While this is happening the screen will not change, the progress bar will remain at 100% and the title will still be "Download In Progress".
The downloading process will eventually switch to an "Unpacking" process which is reflected in the title of the screen which will now show "Unpacking Data", however the progress bar will still say downloading and reset back to zero and then start to creep back up (though thank fully fairly quickly compared to the previous one!). Again when this progress indicator reaches 100% the device will sit there for a little while.
10. When the device/CoPilot decide they're done you'll be thrown to the map screen and shown a dialog box. Choose "Ok" and you will be shown a list of your available Data Regions. Select your desired data region. Now, weirdly, for me the device showed Europe and Europe!! I assume the currently selected Europe was the "UK & Ireland" map set which was preloaded so I selected the 2nd "Europe" option in the list.
11. Now press OK and you will be asked to restart CoPilot, press "Yes" and CoPilot will exit.
12. Restart CoPilot and the new map set and data region should be set!! You're good to go!!!
PHEW!!!
The issue I was experiencing was (I think) due to the fact that I launched and activated CoPilot without having an SD card inserted, I then tried to insert and download maps but I think the installation had configured itself to look to onboard space rather than the SD card.
I hope this guide is useful for others.
RTFM??? i know theres a download maps section in the settings of copilot..??
Well when you activate it gives you the option to download maps, but it seems to want to download them to the device rather than storage card. There's not enough space on the device and obviously storage card would be a better option, but how?
I approached CoPilot customer service a while ago asking to get hold of maps - Iwas having the same problem. They replied with this link which worked for me,
http://www.alk.com/htc/
Good luck.
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I approached CoPilot customer service a while ago asking to get hold of maps - Iwas having the same problem. They replied with this link which worked for me,
http://www.alk.com/htc/
Good luck.
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But that link requires you to buy maps. I already have a license which I paid for. I have full pan-european map coverage under that license.
I bought paneuropean maps and in my conirmation mail I have been sent a link, where I could downoiad the maps. It's a file of about 1,5 Gig in size. You can copy everything to your storage. Simply copy the Copilot folder from the SD the HD2 came with to the big SD card you most certainly bought.
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I bought paneuropean maps and in my conirmation mail I have been sent a link, where I could downoiad the maps. It's a file of about 1,5 Gig in size. You can copy everything to your storage. Simply copy the Copilot folder from the SD the HD2 came with to the big SD card you most certainly bought.
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I think you misunderstand, I bought my license well before I bought my HD2, I used to use CoPilot Live 8 on my Touch Pro.
I now have a HD2, I deactivated the license on the Touch Pro and used the same license to activate the installation on the HD2.
I have a blank 8GB SD card to which I want to download the latest pan-euro maps to use with the installation of CoPilot Live 8 which is preinstalled on the HD2.
How do I do this?
Try downloading CoPilot Central 2.0, login with your account used on your Touch Pro. Press on the Store tab and go under maps, then download the appropriate map.
http://www.alk.com/copilot/central/
Plug in your HD2 and transfer the maps. I hope that works
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Try downloading CoPilot Central 2.0, login with your account used on your Touch Pro. Press on the Store tab and go under maps, then download the appropriate map.
http://www.alk.com/copilot/central/
Plug in your HD2 and transfer the maps. I hope that works
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Tried this already, it expects me to pay for the maps even though I already have a license!
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Tried this already, it expects me to pay for the maps even though I already have a license!
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Here's what ALK emailed me, though I'm not sure what happens if you follow these instructions when CoPilot is already installed.
EDIT: I'm assuming you've downloaded "8.0.0.346_Pan_Europe_Card_Image.zip" (the phone app) and not "CoPilot_Central_setup32.zip" (the desktop app)? The confirmation email I received following purchase had this link:
[FONT="]http://www.alk.eu.com/buynow/eu_download.asp[/FONT]
You'll need your order number, last name, and postal code to get the download...
How to put it on your memory card:
Step 1: Download CoPilot Live v8 software and maps to your desktop computer
Click on the download link above and save the file to a location on your desktop computer
Once the maps are downloaded, right-click on the downloaded zip file and select 'Extract All'
You should now have 2 new folders on your PC: '2577' and 'CoPilot'
Step 2: Transfer CoPilot Live v8 software and maps to your memory card
Note: if your phone has a large internal storage (for example HTC Touch Diamond) then you may not need a memory card, and can transfer the maps directly
The easiest way to do this is using a memory card reader
Insert your memory card into your desktop computer's card reader
Browse to the memory card using your desktop computer's file explorer
Copy the 2577 and CoPilot folders onto the main directory of your memory card
Once the transfer is completed, please insert the memory card into your mobile device
Alternative method: transfer the files to a memory card in your mobile device using a sync cable
Insert your memory card into the card slot in your mobile device
Connect your mobile device to your desktop computer using a synchronization cable
Browse to the memory card in your mobile device using your desktop computer's file explorer
Copy the 2577 and CoPilot folders from your desktop computer onto your memory card
Step 3 - Install CoPilot Live on your mobile device
If your mobile device is connected to your desktop PC, disconnect it now
Insert the memory card into your mobile device (if not already inserted)
CoPilot Live installation should begin automatically after a few seconds. If not, use your mobile device's file explorer to browse to the 2577 folder on the memory card and tap 'Autorun'
Select an installation location when prompted on-screen. We recommend that you install CoPilot to your device
Follow the on-screen instructions to complete installation
Are you using the 2Gb SD card that came with your phone? If not, copy the copilot folder from it the SD card in your phone. All your compatible maps need to be placed in this folder (the ones that came with your phone will already be there).
iphoneresister said:
Here's what ALK emailed me, though I'm not sure what happens if you follow these instructions when CoPilot is already installed.
EDIT: I'm assuming you've downloaded "8.0.0.346_Pan_Europe_Card_Image.zip" (the phone app) and not "CoPilot_Central_setup32.zip" (the desktop app)? The confirmation email I received following purchase had this link:
[FONT="]http://www.alk.eu.com/buynow/eu_download.asp[/FONT]
You'll need your order number, last name, and postal code to get the download...
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I still have all this information in the original email that ALK sent me and I am sure this method would also work. But the pre-installed version of CoPilot is newer. The one in the email link is:
8.0.0.346
The pre-installed is:
8.0.0.457
Hence I wanted to use the pre-installed version with my existing license. Also by doing a fresh download you ensure that you have the latest maps/data packages (I hope).
jakem said:
Are you using the 2Gb SD card that came with your phone? If not, copy the copilot folder from it the SD card in your phone. All your compatible maps need to be placed in this folder (the ones that came with your phone will already be there).
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I think this is where I was going wrong.
I have found a solution and I have updated the thread title and my first post with complete "how-to".
Syphon Filter said:
I have found a solution and I have updated the thread title and my first post with complete "how-to".
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+100 to you mate. I'm sure that lots of people will stumble across this post with similar issues (if they bother searching ).
Nice one.
johncmolyneux said:
+100 to you mate. I'm sure that lots of people will stumble across this post with similar issues (if they bother searching ).
Nice one.
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Cheers. The community gives so much to us, it's only fair we contribute in return when we can!! That's what it's all about.
I would suggest making this a sticky or something but not sure how many people actually like/use CoPilot. Either way, as long as people use search they will find this thread I may also post a link in the hints & tips sticky, maybe the OP of that thread can work it into his list.
Syphon Filter said:
Cheers. The community gives so much to us, it's only fair we contribute in return when we can!! That's what it's all about.
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Are you purposely looking for me to say +100 again, cos that's what you're getting! lol
That is what the forums are about.
Ah crap,
We spoke too soon. My device downloaded the maps but CoPilot would not shut down properly (it hung on shutdown). I pressed the "Home" key and had a look in task manager and it was sat there, I waited a bit but it remained so I killed the task.
I relaunched CoPilot and it threw an error, something along the lines of "some files could not be unpacked, these files will be deleted". Press ok and it continued to work but without the new maps. I am wondering if the process that appeared to be stuck in memory was infact unpacking the downloaded files?
I am trying the download the again and am going to leave my device running overnight, hopefully that should be enough time for it to download and unpack the files.
Syphon Filter said:
Ah crap,
We spoke too soon. My device downloaded the maps but CoPilot would not shut down properly (it hung on shutdown). I pressed the "Home" key and had a look in task manager and it was sat there, I waited a bit but it remained so I killed the task.
I relaunched CoPilot and it threw an error, something along the lines of "some files could not be unpacked, these files will be deleted". Press ok and it continued to work but without the new maps. I am wondering if the process that appeared to be stuck in memory was infact unpacking the downloaded files?
I am trying the download the again and am going to leave my device running overnight, hopefully that should be enough time for it to download and unpack the files.
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Someone who knows may well be able to advise you on here at some point, but in the meantime, have you tried contacting the CoPilots bods? Relevant maps were stored on my SD card when I got the phone, so I didn't have to worry about it. This is obviously something they've arranged with HTC so I'd imagine they should be able to help.
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Someone who knows may well be able to advise you on here at some point, but in the meantime, have you tried contacting the CoPilots bods? Relevant maps were stored on my SD card when I got the phone, so I didn't have to worry about it. This is obviously something they've arranged with HTC so I'd imagine they should be able to help.
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Yeah I might hit them up in the morning but they are only open for the morning on Christmas Eve. I will try anyway.
CoPilot 8 and Data Regions (USA)
I have a Touch Pro 2 and downloaded to my PC the software; 1.2 gigs. I'm asking myself with an image file that big why after downloading it to my sd card do I need to download data regions; so upon request I download Alabama; the state I live in. We're travelling to LA later today; does that mean I have to download Mississippi and Louisiana to plot an address for the software? I'm asking myself why with such a large file and I expect it to be a large file; why do I have to download these data regions in the first place; does data imply maps or does it imply "data" features which require a data plan? The software works great, I'm just trying to understand how to plot a 600 mile trip and not pull my hair out too.
The second is CoPilot Central - I'm going this is sync software, but like others who have posted; it wants to put the software on my device and I don't have the memory where an 8 gig sd card should do the trick. I have wi-fi and I'm using the device to do the work. I just think that this part of it wasn't well thought out by ALK.
What else caught my attention was the updated release 12-29-2009. I bought and downloaded the software on the 30th.
So what am I missing here? Must I download all the data regions manually? And if so, what exactly other than audio files is within that 1.2 gig download?
Thanks
What exactly have you downloaded?
No matter what i do and even if i choose the memory card, the game installs itself into main memory..
How do i move it to the memory card????
Oh yeah, so annoying. That's why i don't get any gameloft games. They make good games but you have to be really dumb to allow installation only on the main memory, and their games are not small!!!
I have a couple Gameloft games on my storage card, but the may have come from "alternate" sources. Anyhow, if these "alternate" sources made it happen, there must be a way.
The way is to patch the installer.dll and the hardcoded references in the apps themselves. Screw those mamafuckers for not allowin' ppl to put the crap on storage cards.
this sucks! I also found this out, I was wondering what was causing my main memory to reduce, found out that eventhough you chose storage card it still installs to the main memory. I'm wondering, can you use a program such as SKTools to move the application to the storage card? Has anyone tried this? If not, I'll give it a try and report back....
Hi. I also wanted to try that with SK-Tools, but for some reason I cannot find the option within the program anymore. If you try, then let us know if it works, and how to do that with SK-Tools. THX!
I also can't find the option, I followed the instructions in SKTools, move application, installed programs ---> action, you don't get the option to move application. Maybe Gameloft has incoded something that doesn't allow the program to be moved. I give up! If anyone knows how to move it, then I'm all ears!
still no answer..anyone???
I've not done it myself but I believe pocket mechanic can move them.
No,.. pocket mechanic neither sktools are able to move them to storage card. This realy s*cks..
I've just tested it and moved two programs using pocket mechanic, although not from the marketplace.
main memory is getting low
are there any news?
My HTC HD2 gets low main memory.
I have installed 2 Gameloft Games - they are big
Where can I find a modifyed installer for the gameloft games allowing storagecard installation
GreeT`s
Good news! With 1.66 I'm now able for some reason to move Games from internal memory to SD using SK-Tools!! With 1.48 the entry in SK-Tools has been grew and not clickable - now it works!
They do this simply because it's the most efficient and stable way to install anything!
How many of you install your PC apps to an external hard drive?
Our internal hard drive isn't 100MB
kilrah said:
Our internal hard drive isn't 100MB
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No it's 264.90MB.
biokeks said:
No,.. pocket mechanic neither sktools are able to move them to storage card. This realy s*cks..
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Strange, I have moved numerous applications and games from my main memory to my storage card using Pocket Mechanic, including demos downloaded from the marketplace.
Select Relocate.
Select Relocate Installed Software (Applications).
Tick:-
- Move Files And Folders
- Update Registry References
- Update Shortcut References
- Update .unload Files
Select the software you want to move and let it do it's magic. Works a treat.
pa49 said:
They do this simply because it's the most efficient and stable way to install anything!
How many of you install your PC apps to an external hard drive?
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Not really a fair comparison. My external hard disk isn't always plugged into my PC as I use it on both my Xbox 360 and Wii. However, my memory card is never removed from my HD2.
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No it's 264.90MB.
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But with 100MB left for games once the other necessary stuff is installed
Gameloft
Pagnell said:
Strange, I have moved numerous applications and games from my main memory to my storage card using Pocket Mechanic, including demos downloaded from the marketplace.
Select Relocate.
Select Relocate Installed Software (Applications).
Tick:-
- Move Files And Folders
- Update Registry References
- Update Shortcut References
- Update .unload Files
Select the software you want to move and let it do it's magic. Works a treat.
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Dont work for gameloft games. It will says successful, but check in main memory, the game still there.
Pagnell said:
Strange, I have moved numerous applications and games from my main memory to my storage card using Pocket Mechanic, including demos downloaded from the marketplace.
Select Relocate.
Select Relocate Installed Software (Applications).
Tick:-
- Move Files And Folders
- Update Registry References
- Update Shortcut References
- Update .unload Files
Select the software you want to move and let it do it's magic. Works a treat.
Not really a fair comparison. My external hard disk isn't always plugged into my PC as I use it on both my Xbox 360 and Wii. However, my memory card is never removed from my HD2.
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it didn't work for me....it says succesful but the game space remains used on the phone storage memory...that's sooooo boring....
Internal storage is a constant struggle. Now that it's rooted, is there any way to make the tablet view the external storage and internal storage the same?
You could have always moved apps to the external card - just go to Settings->App Manager->SD Card, pick the app to move and click the "Move" button. There is also a way to make it so that you can move ANY app to external SD card (search for it) - or I can post a link later.
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Thanks for your input. It would allow some apps to be moved, but def. not most of them. I have done a search to find what you're referring to. If you get a chance to link to it, that'd be great!
Thanks.
There are many tutorials on how to do this - here is the first one that came up in a Google search. Just be careful - this will allow you to move ANY app to SD - even apps that shouldn't be moved! Also, if you use a widget for an app, you shouldn't move those apps either as it will break the widgets.
http://techgage.com/article/moving_your_non-movable_android_apps_to_an_sd_card/
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Folder mount is one which works on all android based rooted devices (from 2.x android to 6.0)
Hi all! I am having the same issue. I bought my children these for Christmas, and I was shocked after we installed a couple apps and ran out of space! I put in a large uSD in one of them, and I could not move 90% of the apps over to it! Again, I was shocked.
I am SO glad I found this thread. So can anyone elaborate, like using Folder Mount for example. It sounds like I MUST root their devices in order to ever achieve moving apps to the uSD? Are there any other non-root alternatives, etc?
Thanks so much!
I used a free app from the store called Apps2sd. You have to create a second partition on the sd card, but then you can move/link all apps and associatec data to the sd card. One big thing to keep in mind is sd access times... depending on your sd card, it might be several orders of magnitude slower than the internal memory. I bought a UHS3 sd card and it offer acceptable performance. Hope that helps.
Okay so the phone i have right now came with a sd card called 128 evo plus , which was great and was excited to move over apps from internal storage to it, but i don't seem to have the option to do so. (i searched the videos and how-tos and i followed them, but i just dont have the option to.) Help would be appreciated !
Settings
Device
Applications
Application manager
Pick the app you want to move
Storage
Change
Select sd card
You can only move certain apps to sd so you will have to go down the list until you find one that allows you to move it over. Ex waze gps
AndroiderM said:
Settings
Device
Applications
Application manager
Pick the app you want to move
Storage
Change
Select sd card
You can only move certain apps to sd so you will have to go down the list until you find one that allows you to move it over. Ex waze gps
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the problem is i have no option to change it to move it into the sd card
That's strange what carrier? Did you try a reboot after installing card?
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That's strange what carrier? Did you try a reboot after installing card?
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I'm bell (canada) and yes i have. :/
And you have tried it on all of your downloaded apps? My options are very limited as to what I can move to sd. My only other suggestions are to download something like Pandora or waze as I know I can move these on my phone and maybe reformat card with your phone. Other than that I'm at a lose on this one sorry, maybe someone who knows more or had the same issue and found a fix will chime in.
Should look like this
yes i have, i guess i'll go to the samsung store and have them take a look. thanks tho ! @AndroiderM