So I have my 1 year upgrade on March 1st, I bought a Optimus S to use so I could hang on to my upgrade, but with no good announcement on Feb 7th I think I will go ahead and get me a Evo. If a new dual core phone comes out in the summer by the time I upgrade again (premier gold, 10 years) that dual core will have some good development going on, like the Evo now. I have heard quite a few things about the launch Evo and another Evo they made, diff hardware or something. Some kernels work, some dont, a bit confusing. Can someone please give a quick break down of what a Evo purchased today can do development wise, kernels/clock speeds, roms, wimax hacks, cm7, all the good stuff! If todays Evo is highly limited maybe holding on to that upgrade would be the better choice. I dont care for the Evo Shift, looks odd to me. To much space on the bottom of the phone. I played with a Epic yesterday, nice screen, but phone felt "cheap".
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So I have my 1 year upgrade on March 1st, I bought a Optimus S to use so I could hang on to my upgrade, but with no good announcement on Feb 7th I think I will go ahead and get me a Evo. If a new dual core phone comes out in the summer by the time I upgrade again (premier gold, 10 years) that dual core will have some good development going on, like the Evo now. I have heard quite a few things about the launch Evo and another Evo they made, diff hardware or something. Some kernels work, some dont, a bit confusing. Can someone please give a quick break down of what a Evo purchased today can do development wise, kernels/clock speeds, roms, wimax hacks, cm7, all the good stuff! If todays Evo is highly limited maybe holding on to that upgrade would be the better choice. I dont care for the Evo Shift, looks odd to me. To much space on the bottom of the phone. I played with a Epic yesterday, nice screen, but phone felt "cheap".
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I think one could probably get a pretty clear indication of the what the EVO is capable of by reading just a little bit, so I am not going to recap BUT I will say this. I have always been one to anxiously await the latest and greatest phone until I purchased my Lauch Day EVO. It really is quite good.
If I were you, with a March 1 upgrade, I would wait a few weeks until CTIA to see what gets announced and then make my decision. At least you might have a clearer understanding of what might be coming around the corner.
I already have an upgrade that I am sitting on. Nothing out there that trips my trigger......yet.
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So I have my 1 year upgrade on March 1st, I bought a Optimus S to use so I could hang on to my upgrade, but with no good announcement on Feb 7th I think I will go ahead and get me a Evo. If a new dual core phone comes out in the summer by the time I upgrade again (premier gold, 10 years) that dual core will have some good development going on, like the Evo now. I have heard quite a few things about the launch Evo and another Evo they made, diff hardware or something. Some kernels work, some dont, a bit confusing. Can someone please give a quick break down of what a Evo purchased today can do development wise, kernels/clock speeds, roms, wimax hacks, cm7, all the good stuff! If todays Evo is highly limited maybe holding on to that upgrade would be the better choice. I dont care for the Evo Shift, looks odd to me. To much space on the bottom of the phone. I played with a Epic yesterday, nice screen, but phone felt "cheap".
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Wait...echo's just around the corner
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As my friend said, "If you always wait until the latest and greatest comes out, you'll always be waiting. If you get upset that something new comes out just after you bought the latest and greatest, you'll always be upset. Just pick [a phone or computer] you're happy with and go with it."
I bought the Evo because I loved my Hero. I simply wanted a faster processor, larger screen and the kickstand. The Evo was perfect for me and I couldn't be happier. It does everything I wanted it to do and more. It's my phone, computer, clock, calendar, contact list, e-book reader, music player and so on. Tinkering with it is a blast too!
I would hold on a little bit more sprint has to dropping a flagship phone soon
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I generally agree..... BUT CTIA is literally just a few weeks away. That is when they are expected to make significant announcements.
Of course, I have been salivating over the Echo....not.
Its easy to say hold off while you already have the best phone sprint has out (right now). What attracts me to the Evo right now is the development, it is already there. If I wait and get a new "insert name" I will be at stock until root comes, then be waiting for some kernels/roms. Even if a dual core hit the scene today wont fragmentation be a problem, apps wont even really use that second processor, or would android handle the CPU's? I had a Hero up until 2 months ago when I bought the Optimus S, the S is a good phone, its faster than the Hero and all though I like the Hero's screen better. The S will replacing my wifes Hero, its seen its better days, lol. I put aosp's 2.3 on it, makes me crave CM7 so being "stuck" with a Evo for a year until my next upgrade would not be a bad thing. By then what ever super charged dual core HTC phone becomes the new flagship for sprint ought to be rooted with awesome development already!
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Or you could take the route my girlfriend and I have gone towards: When one phone is ready to upgrade, I get it... she gets my old phone.
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Or you could take the route my girlfriend and I have gone towards: When one phone is ready to upgrade, I get it... she gets my old phone.
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Yeah, that's my thought process right now. My wife loves everything about her old iPhone 3G . . . except for the part about it being a really lousy phone, lol.
I'm waiting to see when Sprint drops a new (hopefully dual core?) flagship and pick that one up for me and pass this Evo on to her. Going forward, then, we'd both be on Sprint and could play the leapfrog game, too.
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Its easy to say hold off while you already have the best phone sprint has out (right now). What attracts me to the Evo right now is the development, it is already there. If I wait and get a new "insert name" I will be at stock until root comes, then be waiting for some kernels/roms. Even if a dual core hit the scene today wont fragmentation be a problem, apps wont even really use that second processor, or would android handle the CPU's? I had a Hero up until 2 months ago when I bought the Optimus S, the S is a good phone, its faster than the Hero and all though I like the Hero's screen better. The S will replacing my wifes Hero, its seen its better days, lol. I put aosp's 2.3 on it, makes me crave CM7 so being "stuck" with a Evo for a year until my next upgrade would not be a bad thing. By then what ever super charged dual core HTC phone becomes the new flagship for sprint ought to be rooted with awesome development already!
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I can see you thought it all out... and it makes sense.
I agree... although there are 2 things...
1. 3 months is enough of a lag for me to wait.. to see if the phone will be adopted by devs. This is nearly 9 months. Still a great phone though.
2. htc is announcing big in 3 days... wait till then to re-evaluate.
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I can see you thought it all out... and it makes sense.
I agree... although there are 2 things...
1. 3 months is enough of a lag for me to wait.. to see if the phone will be adopted by devs. This is nearly 9 months. Still a great phone though.
2. htc is announcing big in 3 days... wait till then to re-evaluate.
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Why would HTC announce a CMDA device for Sprint at the GSM Association mobile conference?
all i see on there facebook page.. is a count down clock... nothing about gsm
Counting down until the Evo gets Gingerbread officially? (although since I switched to AOSP Gingerbread it isn't as much of an issue as it once was...)
I decided to get the Evo, unless something bad ass will be released within a couple months. I see adds on ebay that have the phone for as low as $100. Has anyone ever used one of the ebay adds/auctions? Sprint always wants big $, heck the Hero is still $250 with a $100 rebate. That's another thing, with the ebay auctions I think they are cheap because the rebates are instant. Any input?
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yep CM7 GX4 and love every min of it. EVO is still the way to go if I had an upgrade available now I would get another EVO!
id wait a few more months and see what sprint may offer by june. the optimus S is a decent phone compared to the hero. not saying the evo isn't a worthy upgrade but it is going on a year old soon. i wouldn't use my upgrade on it when you can pick one up on craigslist for $250 now.
If you do decide to get the Evo, grab a white one because, initially, white ones were a Best-Buy exclusive. They were only offered in Sprint stores recently. If you pick up a white one from a Sprint store, it'll probably be an 0004 (latest hardware revision, no defects). Also, the white one just feels nicer because it's glossy instead of rubbery matte, so it doesn't show smudges or anything.
This is from experience. I went through 2 defective replacements until they agreed to give me a brand new one after some haggling. I purposely asked for a white one because I knew.
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all i see on there facebook page.. is a count down clock... nothing about gsm
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The conference that they are presenting at this week is the GSMA Mobile World Conference. GSM Association
You wont see anything for CDMA until the CITA Convention
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Has anyone else noticed the Evo is way too big to be a phone? I'm glade i'm waiting for the next 4g phone. Who really wants to watch a movie on their phone? I just hope the Devs stay with the Hero!
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Has anyone else noticed the Evo is way too big to be a phone? I'm glade i'm waiting for the next 4g phone. Who really wants to watch a movie on their phone? I just hope the Devs stay with the Hero!
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I agree. I handled the a dummy Evo yesterday at a Radio Shack, and it is half way to being a tablet. It would be nice to browse the web with that screen, but I already carry a ultralight laptop for that. I want the speed and processing power of the Evo, but in a form factor no bigger than my current hero.
I think a Sprint Nexus One would be the best compromise
the evo is a tad too big. any bigger and it'll be a droidpad. im staying with the hero for awhile. the only thing i like about the evo more than the hero is
1. 720p screen res
2. 8mp camera (5 is still awsome)
3. 1ghz snapdragon
4. 4g(which isnt all that great at the moment.
the hero is still a kickass phone
Yeah, that thing is like a brick in your pocket.
I just read the specs for the Hero 2 and it does not have the snapdragon or a faster processor. Sounds kinda lame, now I wish we were getting the N1.
What's wrong with Hero 1?
The problem is, it's not the latest and greatest anymore. Everyone, save a few, always want what's new and hot at the moment. As soon as the next phone comes out, all these people will be saying how much the EVO sucks in comparison.
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I just read the specs for the Hero 2 and it does not have the snapdragon or a faster processor. Sounds kinda lame, now I wish we were getting the N1.
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Link? I can only find rumor posts from February.
After browsing the Evo forums and hearing of all the disappointing realizations that clears 4g is not all it's hyped up to be and real world speeds are hardly impressive more often than not i cant help but chuckle. Not to mention as the OP said that thing is like a 1/8 scale ipad! plus im not going to fork over $450 for the first 4g device that will inevitably have it's fair share of bugs more than it already has. And for such a big screen u would thing HTC would have at least implemented 256k colors at the minimum. I know AMOLEDs are a bit more expensive. Why the 65k cap? I bought the hero back in October when it first came out so my Premier upgrade isn't due til this October. Id rather wait until 4g gets developed further and coverage increases dramatically. Plus i've got my hero rooted, overclocked, customized and running like a dream. I can live without the extra 232 mhZ (im running 768mhZ) til something a bit more solid comes to the market. My hero and i have been thru a lot and it can still do just about everything the Evo can do just at slightly less speed and fashion but i'm perfectly content with that. But inevitably this forum will fade into the background as most forums do when a new device is released cuz everyone feels like they have to be part of the new phone bandwagon every time something better comes out. Just like cp0200 said the hero is a badass phone if u customize it just right. Hopefully a few devs will stick around
I picked my EVO up at 8:00 AM yesterday, and returned it around noon today. One of my reasons for returning it was the disappointing performance of 4G here in Kansas City. I get better, more consistent speeds with 3G. Another reason was the size of the thing. I agree with you all, it is too big. I think if they had gone with a 3.7 inch screen, it would have been the perfect size. Every time I handled it, I was afraid that I was going to drop it. These two things had me wanting my Hero back.
To be perfectly honest, I'm completely disappointed with the EVO. I don't have one, but I've played with my friends, and my Hero just feels so much more stable. It might be that I'm running Darchdroid, or it might be that I just like the phone more.
The EVO is wayyy too big. I want my phone to fit in my pocket comfortably.
The software is the same HTC Sense crap. Why can't Sprint get a good vanilla Android phone? I was so excited when I heard the Nexus One was coming to Sprint and soooo disappointed when I heard it was cancelled for the EVO. And now that the EVO is out, I'm even more upset. The Nexus One is the perfect size and is plenty fast for my taste.
I found out I earned my upgrade last month, but there is no way I'm going to use it on the EVO. The extra $10 a month, crappy 4G I've been hearing about, and just the general unappealing aesthetics of the phone are more than enough to make me never want one for myself. I love my Hero, and I'll love it until I can get a decent vanilla Android phone on Sprint. Or I'll terminate early and go to T-Mobile... I've already been offered to have my ETF covered by them.
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Or I'll terminate early and go to T-Mobile... I've already been offered to have my ETF covered by them.
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If TMo's service wasn't so crappy where I live I would've stayed with them but obviously reliable service is more important than which carrier has the coolest phones
I dont think the EVO is too big, I think my Hero is too small when I can upgrade I will, I want a bigger touch screen, makes it easier to type IMO
assuming something better doesn't come out by october, that Evo will be hanging out in my back pocket (when it's not busy being worked hard in my hands), much the same way my Hero sits in my back pocket most of the time
That's what she said.
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I picked my EVO up at 8:00 AM yesterday, and returned it around noon today. One of my reasons for returning it was the disappointing performance of 4G here in Kansas City. I get better, more consistent speeds with 3G. Another reason was the size of the thing. I agree with you all, it is too big. I think if they had gone with a 3.7 inch screen, it would have been the perfect size. Every time I handled it, I was afraid that I was going to drop it. These two things had me wanting my Hero back.
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kc w00t w00t. kegs and eggs june 16th mumford and sons is playing 5am at firefly lounge. back on topic yea i really want the evo but i know something better will be out shortly. i may end up getting it anyway though
I agree with most of the comments here.
I checked one out here in Manhattan, and the 4G speeds were not too great.
It just feels way too big.
And someone commented before, it's the same 2.1 Sense ****. Feels laggy.
I am staying with Hero until the end of the year, then looking at my options.
The EVO is not too big. Your hands are too small
It is like a micro tablet computer, which is what I LOVE about it!!!
The thing is freakin awesome.
If you guys thing the EVO is too big, have you seen the Dell Streak specs?? It has a full 5 inch screen! And I want one of those too LOL
just wanted to see who is keeping the hero as long as they can or ditching it the second they can. i just feel a little lonely cause everyone is moving onto the evo. i am proud to say that i am keeping my hero for atleast a few more years.
I'll be keeping mine until I find something that I can't live without. I am trying to hold out for a super phone that isn't 4g. Just seems like a waste since it is not anywhere near me at all, and won't be for quite some time I'm sure.
Though, the new Samsung Galaxy S Pro is looking pretty dang tempting (3x more powerfull than EVO/Nexus processor)
I've had my Hero since January. I've been poking around the EVO forums, and since my dad has one, I'm not sure if I want to switch when I can upgrade or have cash up front. The Evo looks nice with a bigger screen compared to the Hero. I'm still not sold on the Evo as of yet. I'm sticking with my Hero since it's been tweaked to my liking.
I'm bouncing back and forth. The "next generation" android phones are supposed to be coming out by year-end. Not sure what that means, exactly, but something better than the Evo might be out by then. I have to wait until October to upgrade anyway. I might also be out of a job for a time, depending on what happens here at the office. My girlfriend has expressed an interest in my Hero after I upgrade, though, so I guess I might be keeping it in that respect. Who knows?
Im keeping my Hero until the first Android phone comes out with at least a SnapDragon processor and Froyo pre-loaded. Hopefully Sprint will get something like this (prolly not) so if its on T-Mo then so be it.
New phones were exciting when they used to be released once every year or two. Nowadays, with a hot, new phone coming out every few weeks, I don't bother with it any more. I am sticking with my Hero until it breaks and then I will buy whatever has replaced the EVO used on eBay for $50.
Most likely keeping mine until at least October, when I'm eligible for the yearly upgrade.
Read about way too many issues with the EVO, including improperly grounded touch screen, touch screen lag, 30 fps limitation, build quality, etc.
I'm pretty satisfied / happy with my Hero for now, especially the way I have it running .
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New phones were exciting when they used to be released once every year or two. Nowadays, with a hot, new phone coming out every few weeks, I don't bother with it any more. I am sticking with my Hero until it breaks and then I will buy whatever has replaced the EVO used on eBay for $50.
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exactly. there just gonna keep coming out with better and better phones. the hero is already pretty badass, and im really looking forward to getting froyo ported to the hero.
Staying.. my hero does what i need it to.. plus have to much fun trying roms and such.. the evo is nice.. but i have up my 30 dollar sero for the hero.. dont want to pay that extra 10 dollars for the 4g when its 40 miles away.
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I will be kepping my Hero until Sprint releases the Hero 2 a.k.a. "HTC Legend"
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I will be kepping my Hero until Sprint releases the Hero 2 a.k.a. "HTC Legend"
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Not happening... it was called the Evo....
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Not happening... it was called the Evo....
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http://www.htc.com/www/product/legend/specification.html
You sure?
undecided as of now. I wanted an Evo but now....not so much. Maybe when the issues get ironed out, but at the moment, I believe the hero is more sound than the Evo.
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http://www.htc.com/www/product/legend/specification.html
You sure?
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I read that At&t HTC Aria is the US version of the HTC Legend. Bah editing the original UK phones Sucks
Hero for now...for atleast a year...
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I like my Hero. It's not going anywhere for a long time.
Just upgraded to the Evo. Still have the hero laying around though. The hero is definately a great phone, but man things happen really fast with a snapdragon...
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Im keeping my Hero until the first Android phone comes out with at least a SnapDragon processor and Froyo pre-loaded. Hopefully Sprint will get something like this (prolly not) so if its on T-Mo then so be it.
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That.
I wanted to get into a Droid when they first came out as I was with Verizon for 8+ years. For whatever reason, they would not cut me any breaks on a handset even though I was due for an upgrade. I really wanted to get my hands on an android handset was got so impatient with VZ that I walked next door to the Sprint store (literally across the parking lot) and grabbed what they had at the time. (It was Hero or Moment... not a hard choice)
This was back in March and I've been nothing but pleased with my choice. Granted, the Hero is older, slower hardware, but for someone wanting to experience and tinker with Android, the Hero has been a perfect fit. The community here around this handset is vast and we have so many mods and roms to play with. When I finally do get into a better handset, I'm going to have quite a bit of experience already with optimizing, modding, and really knowing how to get the absolute most out of my phone since all of us here are working with pretty limited resources compared to something like an Evo.
I'm glad I moved to Sprint and got the Hero. The pace of new, awesome phones coming out right now is crazy and when I'm ready to upgrade, I'll have my pick of amazing phones natively running 2.2/3.0. I am a bit weary about this mandatory 4G charge though. Hopefully by the time I'm ready to move on there will still be some quality offerings in plain 'ol 3G.
I'll be keeping my hero. I don't like the large screen on the EVO and there is no 4G coverage in Oklahoma yet that I know of. When time comes to upgrade we'll see what Sprint has to offer but until then it's the Hero all the way.
Keeping Hero, very happy
Read my signature The Hero is the best/coolest phone I've had, as I only upgrade every couple years...last one was a Samsung Rant and before that I was on a Nextel i870 (ooollldd)
Now that we know the Epic 4G is officially coming to sprint is anyone returning their evos?
Personally i think:
Epic 4G wins in:
graphics processing
CPU processing
Display (even though evos in bigger)
Evo 4G wins in:
Developers/XDA community (biggy for me)
Phone look (its just sexyyy)
High Res cam in front and back
Sense (even though i prefer vanilla)
Epic 4G loses in:
****ty Samsung Android "skin" w.e its called
SAMSUNG!!
No Devs.....
Evo 4G Loses in:
30 FPS - although a fix has been made thanks to our devs
There were more issues at launch but all of been fixed minus the screen separation which HTC is "looking into"......
So what do you guys say?
EVO-lution said:
Now that we know the Epic 4G is officially coming to sprint is anyone returning their evos?
Personally i think:
Epic 4G wins in:
graphics processing
CPU processing
Display super (even though evos in bigger)
Evo 4G wins in:
Developers/XDA community (biggy for me)
Phone look (its just sexyyy)
High Res cam in front and back
Sense (even though i prefer vanilla)
Epic 4G loses in:
****ty Samsung Android "skin" w.e its called
SAMSUNG!!
No Devs.....
Evo 4G Loses in:
30 FPS - although a fix has been made thanks to our devs
There were more issues at launch but all of been fixed minus the screen separation which HTC is "looking into"......
So what do you guys say?
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I say Evo wins and you're gonna get an eyeful for making this thread in the development board.
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I say Evo wins and you're gonna get an eyeful for making this thread in the development board.
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Ya ****t ...... i just realised..... sorry everyone... MODs plsssss move to general
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Ya ****t ...... i just realised..... sorry everyone... MODs plsssss move to general
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Epic 4g is still going to be a WIN... i wouldnt trade my EVO for it... but i def. will get one when its out... it will eventually catch on here at XDA... hell there is Dell and Motorolas on here now... why not samsung...
about the samsung touchwiz crap... think about it... all it is is a skin over vanilla...??? freaking 1/2 the people here are always crying about how much sense sucks anyway... so why not...
i have been reading how its being knocked about not having all the "social" crap of sense... obviously the person writing that has not looked at the market for a long long while... or forgot that this isnt an iphone...
Epic will be as good as the EVO if not better simply because of the hummingbird processor...
Depending on the price I'm getting one as a spare
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Depending on the price I'm getting one as a spare
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I switched from T-Mobile for the Evo, I have -no idea- how their upgrade system works. Do you think I'll be able to upgrade, given I -just- started my contract with them?
Me and another guy went to return our EVO's today, in light of the EPIC, well, the fact we went in yesterday for the same ****, but my buddy running the store told me yesterday they have no info at all on release date..
He got some info from Sprint today, release date is "black friday" the last friday before thanks giving...
Hell of a long time to wait, regardless if I could of returned my EVO, put my sprint service on a **** phone, and kept my 2 year upgrade/new contract eligability available until the EPIC comes out...
5 months? To hell with that. Ill probally be able to sell my EVO in a little bit shy of 100$ of what the epic will cost me in full. so to hell with it, We kept our EVOs.
I hate sense. I cant stand the 30FPS cap, I never use the HDMI the way i thought it would be implemented, and that extra $10 fee for .. well, nothing is kind of starting to bother me the more I think about it.
In the end, evo still crushes my other friends iphone4, even though their so ****ing stupid and wont accept anything besides there own opinion, and just tried to laugh at the evo apparently. i-d-i-o-t-s.
..still most of me likes the nexus more but tmobile just sucks in my area.
you will not have to wait till the black friday... by that time (end of summer / fall) we will be playing with nVidia Tegra powered phones running in the neighborhood of 1.2ghz to 1.5ghz natively ... that can push 1080p with a breeze and have better battery life than snapdragon powered devices ... unfortunately 1st run of nVidia Tegra powered phones will be windows 7 instead of android ...
looks like a childs toy, untill they make a proper phone with keyboard that doesn't look like it comes from fisher price I say nay to thee!
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Me and another guy went to return our EVO's today, in light of the EPIC, well, the fact we went in yesterday for the same ****, but my buddy running the store told me yesterday they have no info at all on release date..
He got some info from Sprint today, release date is "black friday" the last friday before thanks giving...
Hell of a long time to wait, regardless if I could of returned my EVO, put my sprint service on a **** phone, and kept my 2 year upgrade/new contract eligability available until the EPIC comes out...
5 months? To hell with that. Ill probally be able to sell my EVO in a little bit shy of 100$ of what the epic will cost me in full. so to hell with it, We kept our EVOs.
I hate sense. I cant stand the 30FPS cap, I never use the HDMI the way i thought it would be implemented, and that extra $10 fee for .. well, nothing is kind of starting to bother me the more I think about it.
In the end, evo still crushes my other friends iphone4, even though their so ****ing stupid and wont accept anything besides there own opinion, and just tried to laugh at the evo apparently. i-d-i-o-t-s.
..still most of me likes the nexus more but tmobile just sucks in my area.
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damn...black friday..that is too long to wait
Black Friday is the day AFTER Thanksgiving what would put it at November 26th.
"The EVO 4G, while having an impressive set of specifications, still runs a 65 nm chip that is less power efficient and pales in terms of graphics performance when compared to the Galaxy S." http://alienbabeltech.com/main/?p=17125 good read comparing the processors, Super AMOLED is way better, colors, battery, everything, and the hummingbird has a superior GPU and is only a 45nm compared to our 65nm. HTC has always been about numbers, get the 1GHz processor, 8MP camera, 4.3" screen, but not always the best quality of them. the Epic may be better in some respects.
I wouldn't give my EVO for an EPIC right now though, xda, quality and reliability of HTC hardware, and sense (menus and contacts, not widgets) are just to good to pass up. Also, I don't really like any hardware keyboard after the TP2, samsungs is still not on the same level. samsungs sometimes feel cheap, HTC's feel and look like higher quality devices.
Its Apples and Oranges, just get your Bananas out of here.
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Also I have heard from Sprint Reps the EPIC will be out no later than August, more likely mid July.
Additionally CLEAR will be starting phone services this year and have announced HTC and Samsung devices, most likely these two.
Hardware keyboards are one thing (I tend to not like them), but horizontal hardware keyboards are just terrible. Am I the only one that almost never holds their phone horizontally?
I'll keep my EVO, or go with the standard Galaxy S, as long as it can go Vanilla.
sorry, im an htc guy
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Hardware keyboards are one thing (I tend to not like them), but horizontal hardware keyboards are just terrible. Am I the only one that almost never holds their phone horizontally?
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I have only ever liked the Blackberry Curve 8330, but on the horizontal thing, I too, barely hold it like that, it is good for games and some occasions, but I prefer Vertically. :]
Ya know I had my EVO 4G for like 3 weeks and then i Traded it in for an iPhone 4 I just had to see what the hype was about and see if the battery thing was true....its not i charge this **** 2 times a day just like my evo (Biggest Mistake of my Life I had that signal issue rly bad) but im kindda stuck for now because i want to ether get the white EVO 4G or the Epic but i need a Release date id hate to get stuck in a ATT contract cuz they suck here in NYC im praying for a July 15 Surprise Release Date
thats when the New Rim phones Drop and the Droid X and the White EVO Golden Day?
I was interested in this phone also until I did a bit more research on custom roms etc. There won't be any!
Apparently Samsung has some kind of security on the phone that you can't touch the drivers. From what I read its impossible to do ANYTHING without the drivers.
It doesn't look good at all for custom roms etc on the Samsung. Just not worth losing all the custom things on my EVO.
I can tell the OP never had a Samsung phone the Moment which is also a Samsung phone does have a development community behind it, Google SDX-Developers.
Also the skin can be replaced easily and cooking an AOSP ROM isn't exactly hard. Two big pluses I can't get over that keep ringing in my head are the sexy as hell SUPER AMOLED screen and the Hummingbird processor, which spanks the Snapdragon in every benchmark.
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I was interested in this phone also until I did a bit more research on custom roms etc. There won't be any!
Apparently Samsung has some kind of security on the phone that you can't touch the drivers. From what I read its impossible to do ANYTHING without the drivers.
It doesn't look good at all for custom roms etc on the Samsung. Just not worth losing all the custom things on my EVO.
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Wow, you have no idea what you're talking about no offense, Samsung phones have been rooted and modified for a long long time there is no special settings or protection. And a kernal HAS to be produced by law, since Android is an Open Source project.
Look for yourself, wow no community at all:
http://www.sdx-developers.com/
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I can tell the OP never had a Samsung phone the Moment which is also a Samsung phone does have a development community behind it, Google SDX-Developers.
Also the skin can be replaced easily and cooking an AOSP ROM isn't exactly hard. Two big pluses I can't get over that keep ringing in my head are the sexy as hell SUPER AMOLED screen and the Hummingbird processor, which spanks the Snapdragon in every benchmark.
Wow, you have no idea what you're talking about no offense, Samsung phones have been rooted and modified for a long long time there is no special settings or protection. And a kernal HAS to be produced by law, since Android is an Open Source project.
Look for yourself, wow no community at all:
http://www.sdx-developers.com/
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Did I say anything about root? What does root have to do with drivers?? Maybe you need to do some research!! Samsung has their own security on the phone to protect their drivers!! This is a fact. Go read the Samung Galaxy S forums that are right here and thats been the case with past Samsung phones.
I didnt mention kernel either. Did you even read my post?
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Did I say anything about root? What does root have to do with drivers?? Maybe you need to do some research!! Samsung has their own security on the phone to protect their drivers!! This is a fact. Go read the Samung Galaxy S forums that are right here and thats been the case with past Samsung phones.
I didnt mention kernel either. Did you even read my post?
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If that's been the case with past Samsung phones, then why are there like 20+ custom ROMs for the Moment alone that work perfectly fine with original drivers and are completely different from stock builds.
I know this because I came from a Moment been rooting/flashing/hacking it since the day it was released, this is the first I've ever heard of anything like this and it was never a problem then, unless this is new for the Galaxy S line which I doubt.
Also the reason I brought up custom ROMs was because you brought them up:
Apparently Samsung has some kind of security on the phone that you can't touch the drivers. From what I read its impossible to do ANYTHING without the drivers.
It doesn't look good at all for custom roms etc on the Samsung. Just not worth losing all the custom things on my EVO.
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Go look at my link you'll see a wide library of Samsung custom ROM builds, so how is it impossible to have custom ROMs on a Samsung phone?
Just wanted to see what people's thoughts are about moving off of the original EVO and going with the 3D. Is it going to be worth the extra $$? Is there going to be good development for the 3D? Etc? Let me know, I love my EVO but the EVO 3D rocks some specs.
Honestly, the ONLY reason I want to upgrade is for the faster/better specs, NOT the 3D. Honestly, I wish it didn't have 3D but I won't turn down something for free. My thought, no 3D = thinner/lighter but eh. HTC had to get on-board the gimmicky train at some point so...
I had a thread like this one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1015387
I'm going to keep my evo, use the upgrade to get a 3D and sell it for cash. Then wait for a moorestown powered phone.
Yeah I think it smart to hold onto EVO 4G, wait for the official Gingerbread update with newer Sense update. Then after the EVO 3D has been out a little while and a root finally made, the ROM's will be out shortly after.
I just think our current EVO's with the Gingerbread update and ROM's built off that update will be amazing, that will hold me over till the EVO 3D is rooted and ROM'd.
But for sure the EVO 3D will be a beast with a good Sense based ROM like Myn's. Imagine that ROM on the EVO-2, with dual cores, 1gb memory, 4gb storage, and running on Android 2.3 Will be warp speed fast, and buttery smooth.
Its all about the Nexus 3 now I am praying it comes to sprint.
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Yeah I think it smart to hold onto EVO 4G, wait for the official Gingerbread update with newer Sense update. Then after the EVO 3D has been out a little while and a root finally made, the ROM's will be out shortly after.
I just think our current EVO's with the Gingerbread update and ROM's built off that update will be amazing, that will hold me over till the EVO 3D is rooted and ROM'd.
But for sure the EVO 3D will be a beast with a good Sense based ROM like Myn's. Imagine that ROM on the EVO-2, with dual cores, 1gb memory, 4gb storage, and running on Android 2.3 Will be warp speed fast, and buttery smooth.
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1+ gotta see if that bootloader is locked. If so I will keep my Evo. I heard the sensation on mobile is locked down so don't be surprised if the Evo 3some is too.
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Honestly, the ONLY reason I want to upgrade is for the faster/better specs, NOT the 3D. Honestly, I wish it didn't have 3D but I won't turn down something for free. My thought, no 3D = thinner/lighter but eh. HTC had to get on-board the gimmicky train at some point so...
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How does no 3D = thinner/lighter?
There's no negative to having 3D capability, you don't have to use it.
I'm holding off for a bit. Pretty happy with my Evo and have no desire for 3D anything. Phone should be a beast though, and provided Sprint doesn't have something comparable coming out in the near future, I may end up getting up on it. If anything I'd jump on the Nexus, but I'm in no rush to jump.
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Gotta see what the situation with the bootloader is.
If it is unlocked, wait a little bit, let the devs work and get out some ROMs, get the 3D. Gotta love them specs!
...but hold onto my EVO too for the heck of it
Yeah, you honestly don't buy new products [especially technology] in the first few weeks of its release.
Perfect example: Palm Pre
Hopefully the bootloader won't be locked as well.
Seeing as how I'm not eligible for an upgrade until Aug 12, I'm going to be sticking with the Evo for a while.
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Yeah, you honestly don't buy new products [especially technology] in the first few weeks of its release.
Perfect example: Palm Pre
Hopefully the bootloader won't be locked as well.
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True.
We shouldn't buy new Android phones, until root.
As much as I want to be a day 1 EVO 3D user, I'm not playing the early adopter game unless its rooted, pre release.
I'm doubting there is going to be a locked bootloader coming our way, Sprint & T-Mobile are the least likely of the Big 4 to request one.
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True.
We shouldn't buy new Android phones, until root.
As much as I want to be a day 1 EVO 3D user, I'm not playing the early adopter game unless its rooted, pre release.
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Well it's more than just confirming the ability to have full root.
If you wait a few weeks after release you really get to see the issues that exist [if any] for that phone.
I am not about trusting based on past performance or name.
The Palm Treo lineup has some phones that STILL UNTIL THIS DAY function just fine.
Yet the Pre was garbage.
Allowing others to beta test is smart
I for one will definitely be upgrading to the evo 3d, but because my current Evo is still going strong, which I've had since the day before officially released, i love best buy , im going to hold off till root is achieved and a wealth of roms are out and first generation evo 3d bugs get ironed out too. My 2 cents.
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I'll definitely be getting the 3D. Not for the 3D but for the dual core processor and the 1gb of ram. Its a better looking, faster more powerful Evo. Why wouldn't you want to get it? Im sure HTC wont lock the Bootloader seeing as how none of their other devices are locked. Plus ill be able to take high res pics of my finace's you know what...lol j/k..... nah i was fa real http://media.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/cool.gif
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Its all about the Nexus 3 now I am praying it comes to sprint.
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By the time it comes to sprint HTC will be announcing the third gen evo... we wont even get the sgs2 til late 3rd/early 4th quarter.
As far as buying devices day one, I've had my evo since day one and its been solid. In addition, with sprint's 30 guarantee you can't lose.
Tapa tapa tapa
I'm going to wait and see what kind of development and support it ends up with after a while. The amount of dev's making ROMS here is phenomenal and I'd hate to end up with a phone that we couldn't do much else with.
Look at the video on youtube about evo 3D. Its going to be sick. I'm gonna pay extra for it.
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By the time it comes to sprint HTC will be announcing the third gen evo... we wont even get the sgs2 til late 3rd/early 4th quarter.
As far as buying devices day one, I've had my evo since day one and its been solid. In addition, with sprint's 30 guarantee you can't lose.
Tapa tapa tapa
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I've had the opposite experience, my launch EVO suffers from the backlight bleeding alongside the buttons and 'ghost' touches on the screen.
I was so excited for the original EVO though, I'm still glad I got it on launch day.
It's still such a solid device though that I'll probably wait at least a month or two after the 3D comes out to get it.
Hey guys,
Due to a recent disagreement with Verizon (I said they suck, they said they don't), I will be switching over to Sprint.
The problem I have now is trying to pick a phone. Everyone keeps telling me get the Epic 4g Touch but there is something about it I don't like. I am drawn to the Evo 4g because it already has a developer base and cm7 support. I'm not a poweruser, I just like my phone to be snappy when I'm running a couple of apps. Is this phone even worth considering, or do you guys think it's kind of at the end of its life cycle and I should check out a different device?
Thanks for any responses!
Honestly the evo runs fine for what you are looking for, but considering you are signing a new contract with sprint you might as well try for a newer phone. If you don't like it return it within the 14 days or if you keep it for more and decided you still don't like it you can most likely sell/trade it for cash and evo 4g. Just my opinion, but right now the evo 4g does everything I want so I have no complaints.
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Here's the problem....the evo is a great phone but its over a year old. Signing up with sprint means you won't be available for an upgrade for two years. By that time this phone will be extremely old and no Bueno. Now if u buy one for cheap off eBay or Craigslist then cool do that and ull be able to get an upgraded phone whenever the quad core lte phones come out next year. If not then get the newest greatest phone out right now cause atleast it won't be as out dated as the evo will be when ur next upgrade rolls around. I've heard great things about the epic 4 g touch and evo 3d and photon. This is just my opinion. I love my evo just looking down the road u know
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Hey guys,
Due to a recent disagreement with Verizon (I said they suck, they said they don't), I will be switching over to Sprint.
The problem I have now is trying to pick a phone. Everyone keeps telling me get the Epic 4g Touch but there is something about it I don't like. I am drawn to the Evo 4g because it already has a developer base and cm7 support. I'm not a poweruser, I just like my phone to be snappy when I'm running a couple of apps. Is this phone even worth considering, or do you guys think it's kind of at the end of its life cycle and I should check out a different device?
Thanks for any responses!
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Tell you what, you go get that epic 4g touch and I'll trade you my mint evo with all the extras. ;p
sent from my nike hating evo!
Lol. Deal. Thanks for the responses guys. I'll search for a cheap one on craigslist and wait for the next gen phones.
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go with the evo
yea i was at the same crossroad...evo 4g or 3d? i chose the 4g because of the screen size...im a movie watcher and i have pretty large hands so i needed the biggest screen with the cheap cost...now im a good rom flasher and my phone stays charged for more than 48 hours....ive learned alot about the evo from this site...its like the devs here cherish the evo more than anything lol so my advice....evo all the way
The htc evo 4g WAS the best phone that sprint has. Until the samsung galaxy s II came out and another i cant remember the name of.. there also is the evo 3d which is newer and has a better looking ui.. SO basicly i would go with one of those. but the 3d with the camera is just a video trick..
I have an EVO 4G but I've played with the Samsung Galaxy SII and I'd recommend it going forward. The phone is super light, the screen size is a bit larger, which you may not like, but it's also dual core and really snappy.
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The htc evo 4g WAS the best phone that sprint has. Until the samsung galaxy s II came out and another i cant remember the name of.. there also is the evo 3d which is newer and has a better looking ui.. SO basicly i would go with one's of those. but the 3d with the camera is just a video trick..
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Not to disagree with ya, so don't get me wrong. Hardware wise, as in processors, screen resolution and such, I absolutely agree with your statement.
However, as far as the best phone on Sprint, it's still the OG Evo. Here's why, (IMHO) 1) best dev support of any device offered by sprint. 2) the og's radios are superior to the e4gt, and the 3d. 3) no hboot 1.5 problems like the 3d, and no jigs or Odin, like the e4gt.
In my opinion, formed from reading the development forums of nearly every high end device available, aside from 1 or 2 phones offered by other carriers, the E4G is the most complete well rounded phone. Sure there are devices with way faster dual core processors, tons more ram and system memory, but they all seem to be flawed. Either weak radios, crappy GPS, wifi, or Bluetooth, and some just have cheap craftsmanship.
We lucked out my friends. I doubt we will see another phone as well rounded and game changing as the Evo. I think HTC realised that by making a phone that is too good, they cant keep selling as many phones. People got the evo and held on to it. Thus slowing down the new phone upgrade cycle. I imagine that factors in to why the Sammy GS2's in the U.S. fall short of the international version.
I'm sitting on two upgrades right now and will be, 'till we get lte and (fingers crossed) quad core.
Just my opinion, point out the phone we have available that doesn't have any shortcomings compared to the OG and I'll go get one tomorrow.
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I would get a iphone 4s anf sell it to buy another phone. Apple fans will give u like $400+evo for a 4s. I would say you should get a evo 3d. From my personal experience its just better than the og evo in every way but price. U wouldnt go wrong with a epic touch is samsung is ur thing but sense UI is better for everyday users.