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I've strongly been considering buying an EVO but a few things concern me:
With the hero it was rather hard to root/get a custom rom going, I really want a stock or rooted version of Froyo on EVO to take advantage of free hotspotting and other features. It seems that there is a push to get a froyo rom going but I have no idea.
The nexus one seems to have a ton of support but less features. I'd rather not get a nexus one but it gets stock everything and the mod support seems to be a bit better.
Any ideas on what to do? Should I be patient and wait for the support for the EVO to come in? Is there a big push to get stock/root/modded version of froyo going on the EVO? What to do xda?
Wait for the Evo. As soon as it's released to the public, there will be a HUGE push for getting it rooted and customized. This is HTC's best phone to date, so there's no way the entire XDA community is just going to ignore it.
thats what I'm thinking. As soon as I watched the I/O conference though I fell in love with Froyo. I wanna avoid the 30 dollar hotspot premium as much as possible and when I saw it was gonna be in Froyo without having to go through a carrier I was ecstatic. I sure hope there's a push for it.
They're already working on rooting the EVO. It is supposed to get an official Froyo update in July, but it will most likely be rooted by then.
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They're already working on rooting the EVO. It is supposed to get an official Froyo update in July, but it will most likely be rooted by then.
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I see, well the only problem with the official froyo update is that sprint will most likely take out the built in hotspot capability in place of their own.
Froyo 2.2 Coming Soon as per Sprint!
Sprint expects to launch Android 2.2 in near future.
As work on finalizing the software is under way, Sprint expects to launch Android 2.2 in the near future. It also will be available as an upgrade on the recently launched HTC EVO 4G.
With the Android 2.2 upgrade, customers can expect improvements to include the following benefits: updates to user interface, improved EAS Support, improved browser performance, including Flash 10x Support, voice dialing over Bluetooth and application storage on external memory.
http://community.sprint.com/baw/com...t-expects-to-launch-android-22-in-near-future
Woo hoo! That means HTC is done with it and Sprint is finalizing it, it seems.
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Very nice.
Yup finalizing hopefully means that its done and just tweaks left. I would expect to get it some time in July.
Awesome! I wonder who will release it first though, Sprint or the devs at XDA
I expected something like this as Fridays the return deadline for the first wave of Evo buyers.
Smart would be to actually HAVE Froyo out a few days before that date...like maybe in Monday expected OTA?!....as the effects are significant with Froyo.
Voice control via Bluetooth....FINALLY
rockky said:
I expected something like this as Fridays the return deadline for the first wave of Evo buyers.
Smart would be to actually HAVE Froyo out a few days before that date...like maybe in Monday expected OTA?!....as the effects are significant with Froyo.
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I hope you are right, but i kinda doubt it due to Froyo's final build just being released.
MadHatter01 said:
I hope you are right, but i kinda doubt it due to Froyo's final build just being released.
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HTC works fast . A Google developer said that it would take even less time to implement Sense into Froyo 2.2 since it was mainly native code that implemented into froyo. Or something like that.
As much of a naysayer as I'm going to come off as, experience (while limited) makes me think closer to end of August or early September. There's no ETA ("soon" is prety vague) and I remember how long it took to get an OS update for the Hero. That coupled with the fact that HTC hasn't released the source code to the current version (much less the new version being promised) makes me think "Soon" will be a few months (which *would* be fast for them )
yea if we set our expectations super low we can't be disappointed am i right ?
muncheroo said:
yea if we set our expectations super low we can't be disappointed am i right ?
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Exactly
Better to be surprised by the unknown...then to be let down by what you were waiting for.
At least we won't have to wait on Sprint to fumble with a Hero and Moment version, as per their Twitter:
HTC EVO will be updated to Android 2.2; Samsung Moment & HTC Hero will not. Future devices launching w/ 2.1 will be also be updated to 2.2.
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I wonder what Sense is going to look like on Froyo. And how fast it will be.
Bielinsk said:
I wonder what Sense is going to look like on Froyo. And how fast it will be.
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I'm assuming Rosie will look exactly the same.
i'm sure we'll see Cyanogen's Froyo on EVO before Sprint releases the Sense Froyo
TheBiles said:
Woo hoo! That means HTC is done with it and Sprint is finalizing it, it seems.
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They probably mean Froyo is being finalized, not their version of it.
thecodemonk said:
As much of a naysayer as I'm going to come off as, experience (while limited) makes me think closer to end of August or early September. There's no ETA ("soon" is prety vague) and I remember how long it took to get an OS update for the Hero. That coupled with the fact that HTC hasn't released the source code to the current version (much less the new version being promised) makes me think "Soon" will be a few months (which *would* be fast for them )
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I'm even more of a pessimist. I'd guess we're not going to see it until October at least. But I wish upon a star that I'm wrong!
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They probably mean Froyo is being finalized, not their version of it.
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I think froyo is finalized at this point. I really doubt that they meant it like that. I'm going to bet Sprint wants to beat Moto X to the punch. So it will be out some time in July.
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I think froyo is finalized at this point. I really doubt that they meant it like that. I'm going to bet Sprint wants to beat Moto X to the punch. So it will be out some time in July.
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I doubt it.
http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/09/22/samsung-galaxy-s-update-delayed-until-october/
For galaxy s phones.
With the recent update I figured it would happen. No point releasing an update only to release an even bigger one in a weeks time.
Im surprised no one has ported the leaked 2.2 rom for the galaxy S phones.
Apparently the UK is getting it at the end of this month...so it's pretty much a crapshoot.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/22/samsung-galaxy-s-meets-froyo-by-months-for-t-mobile-uk-customer/
I'll take the average and say October 15th
Now go quote me on blog websites so that I appear credible
Ya so Europe gets the update at th end of october... sprint cdma = end of december.. if we're lucky.
I think it's dumb that phones are even launching with 2.1 now... but to be honest, I only want 2.2 for full flash support. I'm happy with the phone otherwise. I can wait.......
my dock wont be fully functional until 2.2 comes out. boo.
hydralisk said:
I think it's dumb that phones are even launching with 2.1 now... but to be honest, I only want 2.2 for full flash support. I'm happy with the phone otherwise. I can wait.......
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Yeah, can you imagine what it was like to be running a phone with 1.5 when 2.0 came out? Sucked. Especially since Froyo was announced before the Hero even got 2.1 (thank god for devs!)
With Android 2.3 Gingerbread due out before the end of the year. How long do you think it will take HTC to push out the upgrade ?
IMO HTC are not the fastest of companies to update their OS the latest google offerings.
The new Samsung is rumored to be running 2.3 out of the box.
Whats your thoughts ?
themonkster said:
With Android 2.3 Gingerbread due out before the end of the year. How long do you think it will take HTC to push out the upgrade ?
IMO HTC are not the fastest of companies to update their OS the latest google offerings.
The new Samsung is rumored to be running 2.3 out of the box.
Whats your thoughts ?
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2-3 months maybe according to what happened to the desire.. that new samsung is AOSP based isnt it.. not touchwiz, lets see when Galaxy S will be getting gingerbread officially
IMO HTC are not the fastest of companies to update their OS the latest google offerings.
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absolutely agreed they build really cool phones, but they are indeed not famous for software updates...
2-3 months maybe according to what happened to the desire..
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when I see that my working colleagues with a HTC legend are still on android 2.1 I doubt a software update in the first year... :\ Although DHD may be (one of their) top phones. But lets hope HTC improves on that, I would even pay for Android version upgrades...
Isn't Gingerbread rumoured not suppose to allow for any overlays.? If so then I doubt it will come to the DHD.
in my experience owning HTC handsets with sense, there will only be 1 update during the life time of the gadget. being 2.3 or 3.0, don't expect it to be any time soon, especially when current DHD is not every widely available yet.
I say 6-8 month at least.
Its one annoying aspect of owning HTC sense phone, they are not a software specialist.
However, the fact that Samsung is getting Nexus Two with Gingerbread probably means HTC is under pressure to have at least one cracking phone with 2.3. We can only wait and see if they choose to update DHD or launch a new line.
Really hated Galaxy S and gutted that's what the Nexus Two will be based on
People always say HTC isn't the best with updates... but who is, aside from google with the nexus one?
I agree no one is quick in getting software updates so no reason to just slag off HTC.
I really hope HTC don't take too long. But then again i plan on rooting and loading a custom gingerbread rom, stock of course. Now about that root...
SupremeBeaver said:
I really hope HTC don't take too long. But then again i plan on rooting and loading a custom gingerbread rom, stock of course. Now about that root...
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hehehe what about having the phone first
you might do what i'm plaining to do http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8911576#post8911576
riz157 said:
I agree no one is quick in getting software updates so no reason to just slag off HTC.
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I have to diagree.
HTC is the first and biggest androids producer. They made Nexus One which is great when it comes to software support. If anyone they should be setting the standard not dragging the progress. They said it themselves that they wanted to benefit from the "Google Experience", and frankly speaking they are the last brand on earth to have excuses for not keeping up with android progress.
wendy75 said:
Isn't Gingerbread rumoured not suppose to allow for any overlays.? If so then I doubt it will come to the DHD.
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That doesnt make any sense the os is supposed to be free to anyone to use any overlay or luncher they want to use
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I ve heard the same thing as well. supposed to be one of google's way to resolve the OS fragmentation problem. However I heard that's going to happen in Honeycomb, not Gingerbread.
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I ve heard the same thing as well. supposed to be one of google's way to resolve the OS fragmentation problem. However I heard that's going to happen in Honeycomb, not Gingerbread.
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ooh interesting, that would be stir things up a bit becuase that would mean if samsungs phones are the same as htc (software), then they have to either battle on hardware or price
but no sense
wendy75 said:
Isn't Gingerbread rumoured not suppose to allow for any overlays.? If so then I doubt it will come to the DHD.
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It's a debunked rumor. AOSP interface has barely changed with Android 2.3
My guess is 2-3 months, One of the reasons I chose HTC was because they are among the fastest to update ( I love Sense ). Samsung just started rolling 2.2 out, Sony Ericsson haven't even updated to 2.2, Sony Ericsson getting 2.1 this weekend..
Traxxor said:
My guess is 2-3 months, One of the reasons I chose HTC was because they are among the fastest to update ( I love Sense ). Samsung just started rolling 2.2 out, Sony Ericsson haven't even updated to 2.2, Sony Ericsson getting 2.1 this weekend..
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I ll bet £50 it ll take more than 3 months, any taker?
It took HTC 8 month to update Hero.
cezent said:
I ll bet £50 it ll take more than 3 months, any taker?
It took HTC 8 month to update Hero.
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Yes,but then again,the Hero was an old,outdated device then.Desire had already come out and there were many better devices out there.Remember that the Desire was one of the first phones to get Froyo(I think second after the Nexus One).Don't be so sure it will take much time...
tolis626 said:
Yes,but then again,the Hero was an old,outdated device then.Desire had already come out and there were many better devices out there.Remember that the Desire was one of the first phones to get Froyo(I think second after the Nexus One).Don't be so sure it will take much time...
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I'd be happy to be proven wrong, but my point being people buying DHD shouldn't put too much hope in getting gingerbread immediately. DHD hardware is superb and the sense overlay on 2.2 has got lots of great features, and its probably just a matter of time before DHD get rooted and 2.3 be ported over anyway.
I f none of these matters as much as getting 2.3 straightaway, hold on for a couple more weeks and get the Nexus Two is probably a better idea(and wear the pain of a samsung phone, I m not falling for that again)
if i recall gingerbread was roughly estimated for december/janurary
thought there were still issues with oracle and google over android using dalvik vm?so I thought, yes me only- not starting a rumor- that that might have delayed it as dalvik is part of java and ISN'T open source?
anyways your device doesnt get 1 update only
look at the mytouch 3g? had android 1.5, 1.6 and 2.2 3 upgradeds in its life?
now look at the desire, htc call it a high end product. it was on 2.1 is running 2.2 and will definately get gingerbread when it comes out, but no time scale will be given for that.
HTC are better then any company in giving updates if anything compared to other companies.
when an company decides to put its own overlay is when things get delayed. if they keep it vanilla releases would be quick and easy, but how do you make your device unique? what features do you add to make you stand out the crowd?
El_Nino9 said:
if i recall gingerbread was roughly estimated for december/janurary
thought there were still issues with oracle and google over android using dalvik vm?so I thought, yes me only- not starting a rumor- that that might have delayed it as dalvik is part of java and ISN'T open source?
anyways your device doesnt get 1 update only
look at the mytouch 3g? had android 1.5, 1.6 and 2.2 3 upgradeds in its life?
now look at the desire, htc call it a high end product. it was on 2.1 is running 2.2 and will definately get gingerbread when it comes out, but no time scale will be given for that.
HTC are better then any company in giving updates if anything compared to other companies.
when an company decides to put its own overlay is when things get delayed. if they keep it vanilla releases would be quick and easy, but how do you make your device unique? what features do you add to make you stand out the crowd?
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You're the man!
we all know its going to happen but how soon till we see the leaks
Leaks? It's already officially out. Nexus One's are receiving the update as we speak. As for an EVO specific leak from HTC/Sprint, who knows..I'm sure the devs will have something out soon if there aren't any major hardware changes / requirements.
SDK is out NOT a working rom its no "leaked" pushed yet to the nexus 1
This update sucks for me if it doesn't fix the CPU problem of almost maxing out when scrolling which causes scrolling to be laggy. If they don't fix this by the time my next upgrade comes up I'm switching to a Windows phone. I want a smooth interface.
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SDK is out NOT a working rom its no "leaked" pushed yet to the nexus 1
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I guess I'm not following.
According to Engadget, Gingerbread, 2.3, is running on Nexus One's. They've received the OTA update.
Although, they may have been wrong and pulled the article and didn't say anything, since
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/06/android-2-3-update-now-rolling-out-to-nexus-one-owners/
no longer appears to be a valid link, but it was just a half hour ago.
I think this is what it said:
Nexus One owners feeling a little Nexus S envy can breathe a little easier -- we're hearing that Android 2,3 Gingerbread is being pushed out to the N1 as we speak. We'd imagine that all the slick new features that don't require new hardware (like NFC support) will be there, and we're definitely interested in playing with this built-in WiFi calling stack.
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the latest ota pushed to the nexus was just a minor update i don't think it was 2.3
Sirchuk said:
I guess I'm not following.
According to Engadget, Gingerbread, 2.3, is running on Nexus One's. They've received the OTA update.
Although, they may have been wrong and pulled the article and didn't say anything, since
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/06/android-2-3-update-now-rolling-out-to-nexus-one-owners/
no longer appears to be a valid link, but it was just a half hour ago.
I think this is what it said:
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That might have been an old link where the nexus one got a security update and people jumped the gun on calling gingerbread
Looks like Engadget was wrong and pulled the story. Nobody can confirm that 2.3 is out it seems, though some have tried to get their N1's to update.
Way to go Engadget, wrong information with no clarification. At least post a "Oops, we were wrong" update or something.
The N1 forums are saying it will be out on/around the 16th.
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Think they heard me:
Update: Looks like our flood of tips came from people who were seeing their N1s get a different, less-interesting update -- we'll let you know when the actual 2.3 update roll out. Ah, the heady optimism of hope.
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One of the main guys on the Android team tweeted that no ota was released for the nexus one and that the source would be released in the "coming weeks". My bet is that the first rom with working Gingerbread on it will be Cyanogen and within a few weeks of the source being released.
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One of the main guys on the Android team tweeted that no ota was released for the nexus one and that the source would be released in the "coming weeks". My bet is that the first rom with working Gingerbread on it will be Cyanogen and within a few weeks of the source being released.
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Yup, for our EVOs CM is the best bet and that will be AFTER the source (not to be confused with the Nexus One OTA) is released.
Award Tour said:
Yup, for our EVOs CM is the best bet and that will be AFTER the source (not to be confused with the Nexus One OTA) is released.
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Any sense rom will have to wait till a 2.3 gingerbread source is released by HTC which could be a while, if ever. Cyanogen is already on 2.35.9 kernel which hopefully means that porting their work to 2.3 shouldn't be that hard to do.
drmacinyasha said:
I'm going to say this once to head off the countless sheep who will ask...
Do not ask when Gingerbread will make it to the EVO.
Seriously, how the hell would any of us know? We're not psychics, we're not secret HTC/Sprint/Google/CIA/Mafia/Former KGB/NSA employees, we can't predict the future, so why on God's green Earth would you ask us?
Shut up, sit down, twiddle your thumbs, and wait for a press release from Sprint, HTC, Google, etc. announcing that Gingerbread will or will not be ported to the EVO. If you really want Gingerbread, go help Team Douche port it to be CyanogenMod 7. That's the most guaranteed way to get it to our phones.
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Any sense rom will have to wait till a 2.3 gingerbread source is released by HTC which could be a while, if ever. Cyanogen is already on 2.35.9 kernel which hopefully means that porting their work to 2.3 shouldn't be that hard to do.
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Not sure if there's any confusion with what I think I read from your post but.. I'm talking about the AOSP source not the HTC source. That'll probably take a month or so after the Nexus One OTA to be released and then another month or so before CM releases a RC of CM7/2.3.
apollooff320 said:
This update sucks for me if it doesn't fix the CPU problem of almost maxing out when scrolling which causes scrolling to be laggy. If they don't fix this by the time my next upgrade comes up I'm switching to a Windows phone. I want a smooth interface.
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windows phone? are you on crack?
I'm guessing you won't see a Sprint/HTC Gingerbread ROM until sometime next year. Rumor has the source code being released when the Nexus S ships which is allegedly on Dec 16. Expect AOSP based Gingerbread ROMs to start rolling out around then and an Official Sprint ROM after sometime well after that, after its been thoroughly QA'd.