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Google Officially Updates Us On Froyo Status – FRF72 Was Not Final,

From : http://www.google.com/support/forum...488da0ef21660d1300048994d2e4bf4c&hl=en&hltp=1
Ry Guy
Google Employee
07:03 PM
Hey guys,
Just dropping in to let you know that the FRF72 build that is floating around is not the official update. The Android team is feverishly working to get a final version out the door, but like passion-ate has mentioned this will only happen once a release candidate meets our quality criteria.
Since today is the Summer Solstice, we know things will be heating up a bit so hopefully Froyo will be on its way shortly. Thanks for your continued patience!
-Ry Guy
So… that tells us… not very much but we now know 2 things:
* FRF72, which was the latest official leaked Froyo build, was not the final version (we kind of already suspected that)
* and Froyo is still not ready

cool, thnx for the info

And so the wait continues...
Then again if the google guys think that FRF72 still doesn't meet their standards... could be a good thing.
I'm expecting the OTA'd Froyo to have the option to take over Apple's servers and Ddos them to pieces.

watch, we will have waited all this time for froyo and instead we get gingerbread. (crosses fingers and hopes)

Good to know...seems like Google is taking QA to a new level!

http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/When+It's+Done
(jargon) When It's Done - A manufacturer's non-answer to questions about product availability. This answer allows the manufacturer to pretend to communicate with their customers without setting themselves any deadlines or revealing how behind schedule the product really is. It also sounds slightly better than "We don't know".

sandtiger said:
http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/When+It's+Done
(jargon) When It's Done - A manufacturer's non-answer to questions about product availability. This answer allows the manufacturer to pretend to communicate with their customers without setting themselves any deadlines or revealing how behind schedule the product really is. It also sounds slightly better than "We don't know".
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just hopefully it wont be as bad as BlackMesaSource's "When its done" this mod has taken like 3 years

lalalalala

Blueman101 said:
just hopefully it wont be as bad as BlackMesaSource's "When its done" this mod has taken like 3 years
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Pretty sure its actually five years in the making because I've been watching for 3 years and I'm sure they started in 04-05 right after half life source came out. nothing compared to duke nukem forever

JCopernicus said:
lalalalala
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This newb is curious, how are you tracking these things?

flybyme said:
.....nothing compared to duke nukem froyo
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Needed a small edit, all fixed now.

funny how long its taking google when they seemed so confident at I/O that it would be out shortly. what did they discover i wonder that suddenly needed so much attention?
anyway it doesnt bother me. but i know the complainers in the main google forum arent as forgiving. i have to wonder, what do those people think, that google is holding back 2.2 on purpose? what would be the hidden motive!

RogerPodacter said:
funny how long its taking google when they seemed so confident at I/O that it would be out shortly. what did they discover i wonder that suddenly needed so much attention?
anyway it doesnt bother me. but i know the complainers in the main google forum arent as forgiving. i have to wonder, what do those people think, that google is holding back 2.2 on purpose? what would be the hidden motive!
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I agree, its tough to be mad since we already have it anyway. But I'm with you I'm intrigued by the delay, not put off by it. Hopefully google will not be too embarrassed to announce what caused the delay.

Re: Google Officially Updates Us On Froyo Status – FRF72 Was Not Final,
I'm still excited, they work hard at Goggle, I'm sure the official update its going to be great when its ready.

I think we should have stick to 2.1 till the official froyo comes up,it's good to see that Desire to N1 Roms are active again

Rodriguezstyle ROM with FRF72 us amazing already
Fastest, smoothest Android I've ever used.
Cant wait for 75

So FRF72 is not the final build. What will be in the new build. Is there a list available what items is not met yet in the FRF72 build?

All this time I always have a feeling that froyo is being delayed due to flash! My thought is that they are waiting for the final flash build to optimize froyo for it.

Adobe has released Full flash 10.1 to android androidcentral.com/adobe-releases-flash-101-partners
so dont think they are waiting on flash anymore

and whilst waiting for flash to be ready they thought. "Hey, let's watch some korean drama and worry about gingerbread later"

Samsung Spain says Froyo update will be out at the end of October

Samsung Spain on their Facebook page has said that Froyo update will be through Kies at the end of October
http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=161124793901551&id=108610811866

I think it's only for Spain. Other countries will getting end of September. That what I heard.

probably needs time to translate the ROM from English to Spanglish

Well, if what they currently have is remotely similar to the leaked JPH firmware, I bet that end of October sounds more reasonable as a release date. I don't think they are ready yet.

huxflux2003 said:
Well, if what they currently have is remotely similar to the leaked JPH firmware, I bet that end of October sounds more reasonable as a release date. I don't think they are ready yet.
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^ +1
If JPH is what they have at the begining of September, they still have much work to do. I'm not accepting a Froyo ROM that has bugs that were not present on Android 2.1 ROMs, it would be absurd.

for India too it has been postponed to October WTF!

This better be a great firmware that is fast enough... I mean delY after delay..i think the perception now is ... It better be good.
Having said that jph to me has been the greatest firmware so far... No problems..

Hey let them take the time if they can produce a better firmware.
A few people still report issues with it so why not.
I'm in no hurry. People are so impatient these days.

+1.
Better get a decent firmware 1 month later than get crap now and have them not evolve it anymore.
Of course, both worlds would be better. A free lunch either!
Paulo

hell yes, take all the time you need samsung (reasonably), dont give us crap.

Yeah, Samsung is staying true to tradition in either delaying all updates or not releasing at all. Very disappoint after they release such an awesome product.

In the earlier post i read that oct is date for india too. This is real bad news for indian sgs owners because i for one was waiting for sept last week release. I hope this piece of news is not true.
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JSAHITA said:
In the earlier post i read that oct is date for india too. This is real bad news for indian sgs owners because i for one was waiting for sept last week release. I hope this piece of news is not true.
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This news is true. I am just pissed off. Samsung is such a big company and it cant even iron out few obvious bugs. the great thing is that samsung has not even confirmed that they will fix the lag. They have not even accepted that their RFS is ****. If HTC and Motorola can release the good froyo builds in less time, then why not smasung? I dont think their touchwiz UI will take more time than HTC sense UI. Samsung just cares for money. They got the money, now they will concentrate on other new models.This is my last phone from samsung.

nickporwal said:
This news is true. I am just pissed off. Samsung is such a big company and it cant even iron out few obvious bugs. the great thing is that samsung has not even confirmed that they will fix the lag. They have not even accepted that their RFS is ****. If HTC and Motorola can release the good froyo builds in less time, then why not smasung? I dont think their touchwiz UI will take more time than HTC sense UI. Samsung just cares for money. They got the money, now they will concentrate on other new models.This is my last phone from samsung.
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Also my last samsung phone

HTC is also not God's gift to the cellphone world ... Not all HTC phones have froyo yet ( Legend and Wildfire for example) Here in the netherlands the Legend was released before the desire but still no update to froyo not even a date for the eventual update .. there was an ota update for the legend about 2 motns ago with lots of bugs .. No word from htc about that and even worse not even an update that fixes the problems .. The 2.2 update for the Desire also wasn't without problems .. What I am saying is : the grass is allways greener on the other side ..but when you take a closer look you will see the truth

GAda said:
Also my last samsung phone
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Fuccccckkkk samsung waited all this time for nothing!

nickporwal said:
This news is true. I am just pissed off. Samsung is such a big company and it cant even iron out few obvious bugs. the great thing is that samsung has not even confirmed that they will fix the lag. They have not even accepted that their RFS is ****. If HTC and Motorola can release the good froyo builds in less time, then why not smasung? I dont think their touchwiz UI will take more time than HTC sense UI. Samsung just cares for money. They got the money, now they will concentrate on other new models.This is my last phone from samsung.
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GAda said:
Also my last samsung phone
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what the hell you guys upset about? it's a good phone yes, it does what it needs to do yes, so you see there is no problem and it's only a figment of your imagination.
besides that I believe that Samsung outsources their coding jobs to third parties what would explain constant delays because outsourcing stuff always gives delays as you have little grip on the company you outsource it to.
so in the end it all makes sense and stop blaming Samsung for trying ;O

I'm looking forward to a stable update that might even bring some benefits.
But come on, grow some patience. If they did have a launch plan for late September and during testing decided it wasn't ready yet, well, so be it. Meanwhile the phone do what its supposed to do better then my old phone and with a gadget factor of 1000 more on top of that. CIV V will be out, the autumn TV-series are appearing and between that and working end of october will be here in no time...

at least HTC flagship device like Desire is not as problematic as ours. Do u see any premier device from any of the top companies has lagging problem like the Galaxy S? (and x10 )
if not because of this problem, i dont give a damn on froyo. i dont need flash, because I've used to iPhone for the whole 2009. Wireless tethering is already available in SGS' 2.1 rom.. i just need a smooth device for my daily use! and i spent MYR2600 to get this phone which equivalents to average fresh graduates salary in my country.

personally I'm not too bothered at the moment as with jm7 (can't be bothered to go to jm8 unless there is a very good reason to put the hours in again) and the voodoo fix along with autokiller set to strict my phone is very nice to use now and does everything I need it to anyway.
It is a little disappointing to have to wait even longer, but I'm absolutely not surprised as I said all along I think it'll be near xmas before we get a good solid froyo firmware with not too many bugs in; besides, I've got a feeling that this will be a big anti climax anyway... I certainly won't be expecting the huge link scores of the nexus one, but my device proves already it has the potential to run as fast anyway already.
Tbh I'd settle for the niggles being ironed out and am not too concerned yet for the os version; for the time being I'm more concerned on the end result.
I too though won't be buying another samsung device of any kind, not because of the froyo debacle, but because every samsung product I've bought has been sub par.

Damnit.. Gingerbread (Android 2.3) releases next week

http://www.downloadsquad.com/2010/11/05/android-2-3-gingerbread-release-november-11/
I bought the Epic to be ahead of the trend... We dont even have 2.2 yet, but 2.3 is coming out.. Who knows when that will be released for the Epic!

june 18, 2011

I upgrade phones every 6 months... so that doesnt work for me...
Plus, by that time, it will be Android 3.0 Chocolate Chip.

EvanWasHere said:
I upgrade phones every 6 months... so that doesnt work for me...
Plus, by that time, it will be Android 3.0 Chocolate Chip.
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you mean honeycomb..lol..or icecream
anyways..google said that in the future there will be only 1 major release per year.

EvanWasHere said:
I upgrade phones every 6 months... so that doesnt work for me...
Plus, by that time, it will be Android 3.0 Chocolate Chip.
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6 month you won't get much major progress...from the rumors all the ual cores will be coming next summer anyways..
Either way chances are you won't see Gignerbread on a phone for at least 3 month or so unless its a development phone.

that's some ****ty ass news...
I'm afraid samsung will drop support on these phones by then.

If the Nexus Two/S becomes available on Sprint (and with 4G), I'll happily dump the Epic to avoid this constant unnecessary hassle. The manufacturers and carriers are wrong, at least when it comes to me - I know what I want on a phone more than they do.
I've dealt with it on HTC and now Samsung, and I won't do it again.

razorseal said:
that's some ****ty ass news...
I'm afraid samsung will drop support on these phones by then.
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No, that is some awesome inspiring news. The faster Gingerbread is released, the faster the Galaxy Tab gets gingerbread. The faster Galaxy Tab and other phones receive gingerbread, the faster it will be ported to our phone regardless of whether Samsung has official plans to port it or not.

vansmack said:
If the Nexus Two/S becomes available on Sprint (and with 4G), I'll happily dump the Epic to avoid this constant unnecessary hassle. The manufacturers and carriers are wrong, at least when it comes to me - I know what I want on a phone more than they do.
I've dealt with it on HTC and now Samsung, and I won't do it again.
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You probably wont need to. The drivers for the Nexus S will probably work with our hardware and that should make porting gingerbread to the other galaxy S phones a lot easier. With a little luck we might have a working gingerbread before some of the HTC phones.

People are sooo negative about continued samsung support. If you are really APART of this community you have NOTHING to WORRY about. So unless you plan on staying stock quit complaining about froyo and gingerbread.

jbadboy2007 said:
People are sooo negative about continued samsung support. If you are really APART of this community you have NOTHING to WORRY about. So unless you plan on staying stock quit complaining about froyo and gingerbread.
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iono if i got your statement right,,, but i'd rather have a stock build of android on my epic than one thats been made over by samsung or any company for that matter. i understand that android is open and therefore if a company wants to skin or whatever with it then that up to them. it would be nice if there was an option to where we could go the a companies site ie. samsung, htc, sony; and have an option to download a vanilla build of the current os that is out. and it dosent even have to be before they release their version of it. for example with froyo 2.2 ,,, once they start to push it out to us in the states, it would be cool if we could go to sammy's site and download an alternative vanilla build. of coarse companies might say that it will take away from the phone as far as features that they built into it or want to implement. but if im paying for a device that is 100% mine, i would atleast like to have some options with it sans root and flash.
my opinion

Its not Gingerbread, more like the source....

Gingerbread being released on the The Nexus S is great news since the Nexus S is basically just another Galaxy S minus TW. Porting Gingerbread to the Galaxy S should be very easy...

LOL
With all these tasty sounding android os names the last os update will be called Fat bastard lol. or weight watchers.

walord said:
Gingerbread being released on the The Nexus S is great news since the Nexus S is basically just another Galaxy S minus TW. Porting Gingerbread to the Galaxy S should be very easy...
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Wait, so for the 99 percent of us that doesn't even have Froyo yet you are inspired by Gingerbread being released? May I please borrow your rose glasses???

2.3 is coming soon, Nexus 2 will be the first phone to get it and it's not expected to come out for another month. They site says it's 2.3 sdk, and 2.2 sdk came out a month and a half before nexus one got the official update

how soon till you think 2.3 is leaked

we all know its going to happen but how soon till we see the leaks

Leaks? It's already officially out. Nexus One's are receiving the update as we speak. As for an EVO specific leak from HTC/Sprint, who knows..I'm sure the devs will have something out soon if there aren't any major hardware changes / requirements.

SDK is out NOT a working rom its no "leaked" pushed yet to the nexus 1

This update sucks for me if it doesn't fix the CPU problem of almost maxing out when scrolling which causes scrolling to be laggy. If they don't fix this by the time my next upgrade comes up I'm switching to a Windows phone. I want a smooth interface.

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I guess I'm not following.
According to Engadget, Gingerbread, 2.3, is running on Nexus One's. They've received the OTA update.
Although, they may have been wrong and pulled the article and didn't say anything, since
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/06/android-2-3-update-now-rolling-out-to-nexus-one-owners/
no longer appears to be a valid link, but it was just a half hour ago.
I think this is what it said:
Nexus One owners feeling a little Nexus S envy can breathe a little easier -- we're hearing that Android 2,3 Gingerbread is being pushed out to the N1 as we speak. We'd imagine that all the slick new features that don't require new hardware (like NFC support) will be there, and we're definitely interested in playing with this built-in WiFi calling stack.
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the latest ota pushed to the nexus was just a minor update i don't think it was 2.3

Sirchuk said:
I guess I'm not following.
According to Engadget, Gingerbread, 2.3, is running on Nexus One's. They've received the OTA update.
Although, they may have been wrong and pulled the article and didn't say anything, since
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/06/android-2-3-update-now-rolling-out-to-nexus-one-owners/
no longer appears to be a valid link, but it was just a half hour ago.
I think this is what it said:
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That might have been an old link where the nexus one got a security update and people jumped the gun on calling gingerbread

Looks like Engadget was wrong and pulled the story. Nobody can confirm that 2.3 is out it seems, though some have tried to get their N1's to update.
Way to go Engadget, wrong information with no clarification. At least post a "Oops, we were wrong" update or something.
The N1 forums are saying it will be out on/around the 16th.
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Think they heard me:
Update: Looks like our flood of tips came from people who were seeing their N1s get a different, less-interesting update -- we'll let you know when the actual 2.3 update roll out. Ah, the heady optimism of hope.
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One of the main guys on the Android team tweeted that no ota was released for the nexus one and that the source would be released in the "coming weeks". My bet is that the first rom with working Gingerbread on it will be Cyanogen and within a few weeks of the source being released.

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One of the main guys on the Android team tweeted that no ota was released for the nexus one and that the source would be released in the "coming weeks". My bet is that the first rom with working Gingerbread on it will be Cyanogen and within a few weeks of the source being released.
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Yup, for our EVOs CM is the best bet and that will be AFTER the source (not to be confused with the Nexus One OTA) is released.

Award Tour said:
Yup, for our EVOs CM is the best bet and that will be AFTER the source (not to be confused with the Nexus One OTA) is released.
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Any sense rom will have to wait till a 2.3 gingerbread source is released by HTC which could be a while, if ever. Cyanogen is already on 2.35.9 kernel which hopefully means that porting their work to 2.3 shouldn't be that hard to do.

drmacinyasha said:
I'm going to say this once to head off the countless sheep who will ask...
Do not ask when Gingerbread will make it to the EVO.
Seriously, how the hell would any of us know? We're not psychics, we're not secret HTC/Sprint/Google/CIA/Mafia/Former KGB/NSA employees, we can't predict the future, so why on God's green Earth would you ask us?
Shut up, sit down, twiddle your thumbs, and wait for a press release from Sprint, HTC, Google, etc. announcing that Gingerbread will or will not be ported to the EVO. If you really want Gingerbread, go help Team Douche port it to be CyanogenMod 7. That's the most guaranteed way to get it to our phones.
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10 characters.

donatom3 said:
Any sense rom will have to wait till a 2.3 gingerbread source is released by HTC which could be a while, if ever. Cyanogen is already on 2.35.9 kernel which hopefully means that porting their work to 2.3 shouldn't be that hard to do.
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Not sure if there's any confusion with what I think I read from your post but.. I'm talking about the AOSP source not the HTC source. That'll probably take a month or so after the Nexus One OTA to be released and then another month or so before CM releases a RC of CM7/2.3.

apollooff320 said:
This update sucks for me if it doesn't fix the CPU problem of almost maxing out when scrolling which causes scrolling to be laggy. If they don't fix this by the time my next upgrade comes up I'm switching to a Windows phone. I want a smooth interface.
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windows phone? are you on crack?

I'm guessing you won't see a Sprint/HTC Gingerbread ROM until sometime next year. Rumor has the source code being released when the Nexus S ships which is allegedly on Dec 16. Expect AOSP based Gingerbread ROMs to start rolling out around then and an Official Sprint ROM after sometime well after that, after its been thoroughly QA'd.

Gingerbread Confimed

Hey, just ran across this little fact sheet from motorola, I know we have a leaked build hanging around too but here is something official.
http://mediacenter.motorola.com/Fact-Sheets/Motorola-ATRIX-4G-Fact-Sheet-353b.aspx

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Hey, just ran across this little fact sheet from motorola, I know we have a leaked build hanging around too but here is something official.
http://mediacenter.motorola.com/Fact-Sheets/Motorola-ATRIX-4G-Fact-Sheet-353b.aspx
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good find. Lets hope they realize that 2.3 is a waste and to skip to 2.4 gingerbread with dual core capabilities

If they packaged it with a bootloader unlock they could make a lot of folks long time motorola users. I love everything else about my phone. Can live with it either way but I can dream
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What daveop said. As of now, I would totally be willing to go through switch carriers after this. This better be a worthwhile update (or updates, which ever is faster).

I wonder if it'll still be a Motoblur based update...

It doesn't make sense for motorola to remove blur. They actually advertised the "feature". If they remove it, lots of people will complain (not us, but we are on a different demographic)
So, don't get your hopes up, expect blur. And don't expect 2.4 either, we already know they are working on 2.3. 2.4 doesn't even have a release date yet people.

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They would never just drop MotoBlur, they have probably spent a lot of time and money on it.
I just want an unlocked bootloader. The Dev's are better at maximizing the phone's potential than the manufacturers.

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Hey, just ran across this little fact sheet from motorola, I know we have a leaked build hanging around too but here is something official.
http://mediacenter.motorola.com/Fact-Sheets/Motorola-ATRIX-4G-Fact-Sheet-353b.aspx
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Ok, someone has to be the pessimist and say it; what does "this year" mean?

jpasint said:
Ok, someone has to be the pessimist and say it; what does "this year" mean?
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Def, If we where in September I wouldn't mind but we could be waiting long. lol

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Ok, someone has to be the pessimist and say it; what does "this year" mean?
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"Later this year" = Don't hold your breath.

It just a holy crap.
Motorola never update

Holy crap. it says they will enable 1080p streaming in an update!
Maybe they will enable HDMI mirroring along with it

Hopefully by "Later this year", they don't mean December or so.

Realistically speaking if you want 2.4 on a phone, you will have to get one of the newest phones coming out - Galaxy S 2 etc. This phone wont see that until next summer at earliest.

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Hopefully by "Later this year", they don't mean December or so.
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Knowing moto, they're gonna wait as long as possible, so December 31st at 11:59pm.
However, if you live in Canada (like me), they'll give us a later date, then lie about it.
So for us it would be early q1 of 2012, but then at early q1 of 2012, the update still isn't given (this is what's happening with the milestone right now, it was suppose to get 2.2 at early q1 of 2011, and they still didn't give us 2.2, and early q1 is over already).

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Haha, where do people get this stuff? /sigh

I do hope it comes sooner for those who really want it.
Personally speaking, and this really is personal, I'm still getting used to using Froyo as the Atrix is my first smartphone. That isn't to say I don't want the update to come soon, of course. But at least there's plenty to play around with and learn up until that point.

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It just a holy crap.
Motorola never update
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well that's funny, considering that when you look at what manufacturers release updates, Motorola is #2, only behind HTC.
I'm also betting AT&T will get better about updating now that iphone exclusivity is gone. I think the captivate froyo update is soon if not already around, and the Aria is getting froyo soon too.

From what i understand motorola was one of the faster manufacturers to get out updates.....anything will be better than samsung....my captivate is just now getting official froyo and its not even 2.2.1
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Samsung's that bad, huh.
Yeah, from what I have read, Motorola's pretty good with their flagship devices. Comparatively of course.