eLocity A10 pre-order on Feb. 15th. - A7 General

Check out the whole story:
http://www.mytabletlife.com/2011/02/04/elocity-a10-pre-order-begins-feb-15th/
CPG
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Few things, it looks as only 3 of the 7 models are up first.. the 4GB at $399, the 32GB at $599, and the 64GB at $699. True multi-touch this time, for all of you
Also, they look to be debuting with Android 2.2 (Froyo) and not Android 3.0 (Honeycomb).
Still the hardware is top notch... I am sure the developers here will have fun with it..
CPG
MyTabletLife.com

I think they can't sell devices with Android 3.0
Google approved sellings to Motorola Xoom and T-MOBILE G-Slate. Then top companies will go. Other companies must wait till May or June
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5[Strogino] said:
I think they can't sell devices with Android 3.0
Google approved sellings to Motorola Xoom and T-MOBILE G-Slate. Then top companies will go. Other companies must wait till May or June
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I had to go back and look at the press material I received at CES 2011 about the eLocity A10. It actually does state that it would be released with Froyo and upgraded to Honeycomb once it is made available to them....
I agree that Motorola and LG seem have been working with Google awhile on Honeycomb and will be the first out of the gate with Honeycomb tablets, then we will see it available on the lesser known brands.
CPG
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I am watching this one VERY closely
I have two requirements for my next tablet - a Tegra 2 CPU (or better) and an IPS screen. So this one sounds like it fits the bill, assuming it doesn't get delayed into the summer.

I'm tempted by true multi-touch and IPS, but I really like the 7" form factor. It fits in my coat(s) pocket and I can thumb type like a madman. I would like a bigger screen, but you can't have it both ways.
I don't get the 10" form factor. Everybody I know who owns an iPad bought a case that you can prop it up with. I asked why and the answer was it's it's too heavy/akward to hold in one hand and you need to set it down to type on it.
I say don't try to compete with Apple in the 10" range, make an 12" version (8.5 x 11?) and include the prop case with it! To me once it doesn't fit in your pocket and it's too heavy to hold, you really just have a touch screen laptop. It seems that is what every iPad owner I know is turning their's into.

roebeet said:
I have two requirements for my next tablet - a Tegra 2 CPU (or better) and an IPS screen. So this one sounds like it fits the bill, assuming it doesn't get delayed into the summer.
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My guess will be in customers hands before the end of March...
I think they would be wise to make sure this is the case.
CPG
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5[Strogino] said:
I think they can't sell devices with Android 3.0
Google approved sellings to Motorola Xoom and T-MOBILE G-Slate. Then top companies will go. Other companies must wait till May or June
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Now that Motorola Xoom is priced at $799 and I am sure the LG G-Slate will sell for more with its 3D screen and cameras I am sure people wont mind waiting a few months to have Honeycomb on a nice dual-core unit with a 10inch IPS multi-touch screen with the highest resolution on the market.
CPG
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cpg716 said:
Now that Motorola Xoom is priced at $799 and I am sure the LG G-Slate will sell for more with its 3D screen and cameras I am sure people wont mind waiting a few months to have Honeycomb on a nice dual-core unit with a 10inch IPS multi-touch screen with the highest resolution on the market.
CPG
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Yep. I just notice, that over "approve sellings" i mean Android 3.0 out-of-box.
Google can't deny other companies sell tablets with Android 2.2 and it's a good trick to start sellings before top-companies will go. And promise upgrade, like Notion Ink did.
If Stream TV Network will sell new tablets when Motorla will start Xoom's sellings - people will get choice:
Tablet with 2.2 today for 400$ and upgrade in future
or
Tablet with 3.0 today for 800$
Good business struggle - satisfied customers

If roebeet is signing up for this sign me up to.

5[Strogino] said:
Yep. I just notice, that over "approve sellings" i mean Android 3.0 out-of-box.
Google can't deny other companies sell tablets with Android 2.2 and it's a good trick to start sellings before top-companies will go. And promise upgrade, like Notion Ink did.
If Stream TV Network will sell new tablets when Motorla will start Xoom's sellings - people will get choice:
Tablet with 2.2 today for 400$ and upgrade in future
or
Tablet with 3.0 today for 800$
Good business struggle - satisfied customers
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I agree. Just hopefully it won't be Christmas by the time we see it..
CPG
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Google's Android love and hate!
Funny you mentioned the 3.0 release.
I can see things a couple ways. Like Apple Google wants people to see their OS on a device that can actually use it so they are working with those companies to do so. I can understand they want people to get a good user experience and therefore are pushing to the best retail partners. It helps them and helps the companies by having a release before anyone else.
What I do not understand is the price point. I mean I can get a really nice laptop with a quad core, good graphics, huge hda, etc for $800 so why would I buy a tablet that will do a lot of what I want but not as much as I can with a real pc. Since the masses really only know iPad then wouldn't it make sense to start with 3.0 at a price slightly less than Apple? Offer better equipment or at least just as good and sell for a little less. That way when people try it they will be more apt to buying it. As it is now I paid $300 for my a7 and I could have gotten a Apple iPad for $429 refurb which I think is a really fair price for the unit with its hardware plus a feature rich environment and apps galore and Apples OS is very good. Now comes the xoom for $800??? What. I mean if Honeycomb had been out for a year or so and it was a proven OS with features Apple does not have then I could see it but really they should have at least come in around $500. Personally for me I had a hard time justifying my purchase above $300. I wanted a device I could use to replace a mp3 player with additional features. I already have a laptop and desktop so there is no need for the tab except I do need a portable media player and that is where the A7 and its size fit so nicely.
Add to all of this the system that Google has which is very confusing for a consumer who does not know much about android and not having regular updates from Google but through the manufacturer is a horrid choice!! I think Microsoft got one thing right and that is update the OS without manufacturer involvement. I mean any other OS, MS, Apple, Linux all update their os's independent of what machine it is installed on. Then because Google does not have any control the manufacturers will put out what ever version of Android they have slap it on the device and sell it and if you want a new os you have to buy a new tablet??? Apple iPad does not do this. I can get ios 4.2 for free. This is the same way it should work for Android. Instead you have a huge array of devices for sale all running different versions of Android some of which are outdated before they even start selling.
Because of this situation and the fact Honeycomb seems impossible for the a7 I was seriously thinking of a net book. I mean I can get a 250gb hda, 1.6 ghz 455 atom processor, 1 gb ram, incredible screen for $29 more than my elocity and it will have a full OS with a full browser, not a mobile version, and I can do a lot with it. I could install honeycomb on the netbook!! I did it on my laptop before. I could also install Linux which would run nice and have all I need. Problem again is portability. Netbooks are much better than laptops but not as convenient as the tablet and I find the touch screen interface more intuitive. I think as time goes by it will be the future. However, as things are now with Android and not having it on a phone but strictly for tabs the experience is not what I thought it would be. For a linux based os I do not have much control and that is not good.
Just my 2 cents
Robert

I completely understand the "why not just get a netbook / laptop" argument.
But I think tablets have / will sell for a variety of reasons. Part of it is the "cool" factor, having the latest and greatest. And partly because tablets can do things that laptops cannot (I am in the latter category).
Example for myself: I use my R10 for reading comics -- it easily beats a netbook / laptop in this one function. It's relatively fast, its got great battery life, it's light, generates very little heat and has a better screen. The netbook/laptop kills the R10 in other areas, but it all depends on what you want to use your device for.

roebeet said:
I completely understand the "why not just get a netbook / laptop" argument.
But I think tablets have / will sell for a variety of reasons. Part of it is the "cool" factor, having the latest and greatest. And partly because tablets can do things that laptops cannot (I am in the latter category).
Example for myself: I use my R10 for reading comics -- it easily beats a netbook / laptop in this one function. It's relatively fast, its got great battery life, it's light, generates very little heat and has a better screen. The netbook/laptop kills the R10 in other areas, but it all depends on what you want to use your device for.
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Agree totally on this.. Also. People forget unsubsidized cell phones cost $400-$600. Mobile parts are not the same as laptop etc which are much cheaper. Right now even tablets are relying on mobile components. These prices will come down over the next year just as other electronics do. And margin on Laptops/netbooks is horrible. With a new product like tablets companies don't think they need to sacrifice margin yet as these are a "geek" product and we geeks are willing to pay to have the latest and greatest.
The cool factor is a part of it also, and the bleeding technology factor.. I don't think $799 is overpriced for the Xoom, but I do wish it would have started at around $599...
If the eLocity A10 shines, then the $399 price tag will be amazing.. I think StreamTV has learned alot from the A7 release and I am confident they wish to put out a product that will really be a great value.
CPG
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I happened to be on the J&R website today when, to my surprise, the pre-orders for the A10 opened up!
I bought mine right there - shipped, the cost is $439 - and of course no clear indication when I'll actually get it. Still, the timeline seems firm now, and hopefully I'll see my unit in a few weeks.

Just checked out jr.com and it is there for preorder, but it does not say ips screen. The res is higher than gtab or xoom though. Other than the screen res, it is very similar to gtab. Can someone confirm the screen? is it a ips screen?
It has a sim card slot? can we ue a sim card like tmoblie to make calls or data?
thanks in advance.

tyy10002 said:
Just checked out jr.com and it is there for preorder, but it does not say ips screen. The res is higher than gtab or xoom though. Other than the screen res, it is very similar to gtab. Can someone confirm the screen? is it a ips screen?
It has a sim card slot? can we ue a sim card like tmoblie to make calls or data?
thanks in advance.
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http://www.pcworld.com/article/216184/hands_on_with_the_streamtv_elocity_a10.html
The CES models had an IPS screen. Everything I've read (so far) mentions an IPS screen. Of course that could have changed, but I guess we'll find out soon.
I'm also not sure if all models will have a SIM slot, so J&R's info could be faulty.
EDIT: From the source, here you go: http://www.elocitynow.com/docs/pr_2011_0204.pdf
It's an IPS screen.

Yes. As the press release says it has an IPS screen.
Now, about the SIM card slot. In the materials I go at CES 2011, it said they would have one, but no mention is made in the press release. I am going to find out on this one.
About JR.com preorder. The device is supposed to be $399 for the pre-order. So they are charging about $30 more. But also, it wasnt supposed to go live until Feb. 15th. I wonder if the price will drop then.
CPG
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I doubt the price will drop, but I hope I'm wrong...tho' I myself sprang for the $439 tag.
B&H Photo lists it at $428 plus shipping, so it seems the pre-launch buzz was off.

zahir32 said:
I doubt the price will drop, but I hope I'm wrong...tho' I myself sprang for the $439 tag.
B&H Photo lists it at $428 plus shipping, so it seems the pre-launch buzz was off.
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Well, the price should drop. As it was stated in the press release that those who pre-order would pay only $399 for the 4GB model.
CPG
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Related

Galaxy Tab official reveal at IFA Berlin

In case no one had seen this yet:
http://gizmodo.com/5627498/samsungs-galaxy-tab-takes-on-the-ipad-just-like-android-does-the-iphone
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/02/samsung-galaxy-tab-preview/
Includes hands on video in the Engadget link. Gotta say, very impressed. Only let down might be that they didn't manage a SAMOLED screen, but the one they chose looks good so far.
Also, conflicting reports on the CPU. Gizmodo and that press sheet say A8, Engadget says A9. My money is on the same Hummingbird that's in the Galaxy S though.
The Samsung GALAXY Tab (GT-P1000) Product Specifications
Network
2.5G (GSM/ GPRS/ EDGE) : 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 MHz
3G (HSUPA 5.76Mbps, HSDPA 7.2Mbps) : 900 / 1900 / 2100 MHz
OS
Android 2.2 (Froyo)
Display
7.0 inch TFT-LCD, WSVGA (1024 x 600)
Processor
Cortex A8 1.0GHz Application Processor with PowerVR SGX540
Camera
3 MP Camera with Auto-Focus and LED Flash
1.3MP front camera for Video Telephony
Value-added
Features
Android Market™ and Samsung Apps for more applications and contents
Readers Hub, Media Hub* , Music Hub*, Social Hub
*Availability will be decided by market preference.
Adobe Flash 10.1 player support
Full HD video playback, Thinkfree Office, Swype, Hybrid Widget
Connectivity
30 pin connector
WiFi 802.11n / Bluetooth® 3.0
Sensor
Gyroscope sensor, Geo-magnetic sensor, Accelerometer, Light sensor
Memory
16G / 32G internal memory with up to 32G external memory slot
RAM: 512 MB
Size
190.09 x 120.45 x 11.98mm, 380g
Battery
4,000mAh (7 hour movie play)
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I just want to know the price.
If it is in the $300 range I will buy one!
rmanaudio said:
If it is in the $300 range I will buy one!
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how much is the galaxy S again? right so you want a larger version of the phone for less money..
Lets see how that will work out...
matty___ said:
how much is the galaxy S again? right so you want a larger version of the phone for less money..
Lets see how that will work out...
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If it goes into the $500 range, they are in the ipad range then. I dont think they can compete with the ipad unless they offer more (which they do) for less!
So, my guess is $399.
yea $399 seems like a fair price..
Apparently a finnish press release (by email) set the price to 949€ (~$1200)... Which is somewhat higher than the "fair" price you wish for... I doubt they will sell very many if that's accurate. And it pisses me off that they didn't toss in a 1280x720 screen... I don't care if Android doesn't support the resolution.. It's not like it's impossible to make it support it, it's OPEN SOURCE.
rmanaudio said:
If it goes into the $500 range, they are in the ipad range then. I dont think they can compete with the ipad unless they offer more (which they do) for less!
So, my guess is $399.
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well I paid 480 euros for my phone so 400$ is like 350 euro.. Hard to belief but lets see...
Wouldn't buy it anyways. give me a dualcore nVidia tegra2 tablet with 3500mah. like toshiba Folio 100
matty___ said:
well I paid 480 euros for my phone so 400$ is like 350 euro.. Hard to belief but lets see...
Wouldn't buy it anyways. give me a dualcore nVidia tegra2 tablet with 3500mah. like toshiba Folio 100
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Phones are phones....look at the iphone, it costs more than the ipad!
Samsung will not make a single dime if they price it more than any ipad!
$399 or less otherwise it will be a big bust for a 7" tablet!
What would be even better is a non-GSM version for $299 so that every Galaxy S user can buy one and teether it when needed.
I thought I wouldn't get the urge to buy another device for a while.... 32GB! of internal storage? 1024 x 600 Resolution? I hate this
Let's see... Europe will get it first, so I could buy that one and be limited to only 1900mhz 3g of AT&T, but it will be easy to switch from sgs phone (take out sim card, put it in tab, done!).
Or I could wait for the verizon version, and probably get skype with it like all the other verizon android devices. But I already have AT&T contract....
Or I could wait for the Canadian Bell version, but I haven't heard anything about that.
A confirmed price and release date would be nice from them.
MORE IMPORTANT:
- This equipment is very similar to our SGS and will be updated to Gingerbread (Android 3.0)
- Someone from Samsung mentioned they're working already in Honeycomb (Android 3.X)!
Long life to SGS is garanteed!
BTW: Did someone find any benchmark figures from the SGT?
Well not really samsung wants to sell phones not software.guess it's for their new flash ship
Just think about how many people will buy it if they think they will get amdroid 3.
So by then samsung can change their mind because the customers paid already.
So if some guy says something off the record it means nothing
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not really news, as we already included it on our future plans
Samsung Galaxy S Series
----Galaxy S General & News
----Galaxy S Q/A & Help Desk
----Galaxy S Android Development
-----------------Galaxy S GT-I9000 Brazil [I9B]
-----------------Galaxy S GT-I9000 International [I9]
-----------------Galaxy S GT-I9000M Vibrant [I9M]
-----------------Galaxy S I909 China [I9C]
-----------------Galaxy S SPH-D700 Epic 4G [E]
-----------------Galaxy S SCH-I500 Fascinate [F]
-----------------Galaxy S SGH-I897 Captivate [C]
-----------------Galaxy S SGH-T959 Vibrant [V]
-----------------Galaxy S SHW-M110S Korea [K]
-----------------Galaxy S [model ID pending] Tab [T]
----Galaxy S Accessories
-----------------Galaxy S International [I9][I9B][I9M][I9C][K]
-----------------Galaxy S USA models [F][C][V]
-----------------Galaxy S Epic 4G [E]
----Galaxy S Applications & Themes
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i guess no many picked it up from google news
it's been on for about a week already
matty___ said:
Well not really samsung wants to sell phones not software.guess it's for their new flash ship
Just think about how many people will buy it if they think they will get amdroid 3.
So by then samsung can change their mind because the customers paid already.
So if some guy says something off the record it means nothing
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Samsung Tablets: Gingerbread, Honeycomb, a 'full portfolio' in 2011:
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-tablets-gingerbread-honeycomb-full-portfolio-2011
rmanaudio said:
If it goes into the $500 range, they are in the ipad range then. I dont think they can compete with the ipad unless they offer more (which they do) for less!
So, my guess is $399.
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No, iPad is $640 range sans for the 3G, (there are some reports there will be a wifi-only but I happen to believe the reports that all will have a cell radio, even if coming disabled by default unless sold by a carrier...end part my speculation):
a camera, let alone two
dual band wireless N
expandable storage
pixel density (sacrficing screen size, but increasing holdability and portability)
flash support
...no point in going on, they are going all out, Apple held something back
form factors & OS to be argued, but I think Apple-Central (Engadget) themselves said they like this one for it's one-handed possibilities, better for e-reading due to the pixel density, weight and form factor
I can tell you that it's main competitor in Korea is coming in at less than $300 US without a contract and free on contract (less than $30/month wi-bro contract). This is definitely a better device, but if we can see other non-Apple's doing cheap then we can see this having great options as well.
I definitely expect this in the 400-500 range, $500 is a bit of a shame for people that will go without a data plan, but it is what it is and adds future flexibility.
matty___ said:
well I paid 480 euros for my phone so 400$ is like 350 euro.. Hard to belief but lets see...
Wouldn't buy it anyways. give me a dualcore nVidia tegra2 tablet with 3500mah. like toshiba Folio 100
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They won't price these based on exchance rates, that's not how the market works, they price these to what the customers can bear. For example, in England the iPad starts at 429 pounds, in Germany and France the iPad starts at 500 Euro, in the U.S. it starts at $500 USD. Expect Samsung to price according to market as well, and for this to be 400+ Euro.
rmanaudio said:
Phones are phones....look at the iphone, it costs more than the ipad!
Samsung will not make a single dime if they price it more than any ipad!
$399 or less otherwise it will be a big bust for a 7" tablet!
What would be even better is a non-GSM version for $299 so that every Galaxy S user can buy one and teether it when needed.
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The iPhone costs more than the base iPad, you are looking at subsidized pricing versus non-subsidized pricing...there's a difference. Again, comparing this to an iPad isn't correct on many levels. First, some people have never been interested in the iPad even if they are mildly or majorly tickled by the idea of having a tablet device. Next, for those who want the GSM version, $400 would be more than $200 cheaper than the iPad, the iPad would be priced more than 50% higher than this! They don't need to undercut them that much, look above and feel free to comment back.
As far as "teethering" goes I swear I've read teethering like 3 times in 2 weeks, is this a new internet meme (anyone can answer and sorry for being slightly off-topic, I'm not the grammar police, just trying to be educated on what's hip )
AllGamer said:
not really news, as we already included it on our future plans
i guess no many picked it up from google news
it's been on for about a week already
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I think many, many of us knew. At least those that read the webblogs, this thing has more leaks than the Bush Administration (eh, probably could've done better, but hey).
INeedYourHelp said:
I thought I wouldn't get the urge to buy another device for a while.... 32GB! of internal storage? 1024 x 600 Resolution? I hate this
Let's see... Europe will get it first, so I could buy that one and be limited to only 1900mhz 3g of AT&T, but it will be easy to switch from sgs phone (take out sim card, put it in tab, done!).
Or I could wait for the verizon version, and probably get skype with it like all the other verizon android devices. But I already have AT&T contract....
Or I could wait for the Canadian Bell version, but I haven't heard anything about that.
A confirmed price and release date would be nice from them.
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Ooo, now I get to ask my question. I love the Galaxy S, but how many people with a Galaxy S are in the market for this device? I'm really curious, I'd be more tempted by their other offerings in 2011 which will be more feature packed and give me more screen real estate (read, less redundant). I do think the device is sexy, but right now I don't see myself buying one, but am open-minded and want to hear opinions on both sides.
i'll be a nice companion for our phone, to replace a laptop
Cool maybe for the galaxy as well then
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The screen is based on TFT, instead of AMOLED, which Samsung uses on some of its smartphones. The concession was made to lower the cost of the product and improve battery life, which should last up to eight hours, according to Samsung.
On the front is a 1.3-megapixel camera for video calls or conferencing, and on the back a 3-megapixel camera with a LED lamp. The Tab weighs 380 grams, and measures 19 centimeters by 12 cm by 1.2 cm.
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with that screen and camera short coming, i think i'll stick with the Phone version better
If it had Super AMOLED display + 1GB RAM and got 2G+3G removed, I'd be very interested.
However, I think tablets should get cheaper. I mean... netbooks are getting cheaper day by day and you can buy a decent one with $250-300. I know that tablets are more portable and time-efficient since they don't need booting, but the pricing isn't attractive at all.

UK Xoom pricing

Seems expensive http://crave.cnet.co.uk/laptops/motorola-xoom-price-revealed-already-zooming-skywards-50002167/
Was pretty keen on getting one until I saw this. Surely they should be pricing it to be competitive with other tablets out there.
Also, anyone know anything about what the launch date will be in the UK?
culac said:
Seems expensive http://crave.cnet.co.uk/laptops/motorola-xoom-price-revealed-already-zooming-skywards-50002167/
Was pretty keen on getting one until I saw this. Surely they should be pricing it to be competitive with other tablets out there.
Also, anyone know anything about what the launch date will be in the UK?
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Wow that is ridiculously high. If thats a final price they most certainly wont sell crap. Not only will Apple own them but also the Playbook. I was planning to buy this tablet but now im concerned about the pricing. They need to sell this tablet at a reasonable price of $400-$600 dollars. However, I doubt this will be how much it costs. It mostly likely will go down. Wayyyy down.
Here here.
Looks like a great device, but they can't be serious about that pricing?
£500 max, absolute max. Just because the iPad is overpriced, doesn't mean Moto can get away with outpricing the overpriced.
Would be a tragedy for such a good device to fail or sell poorly purely due to pricing.
Most of us did not count in the price of the accessories yet… I think we need at least a standard dock which will cost us approximate another US100.
I wont pay more than USD1k for a tablet that does not support SD card, it is too far away from the budget for a tablet. I will focus my attention to the alternative android 3.0 tablets from Asus & Acer which will costs us approximate $400-$700.
I hate those webshops that try to profit from early adopters..
Wait....is this wifi only version or have 3G???
Richie P said:
Here here.
Looks like a great device, but they can't be serious about that pricing?
£500 max, absolute max. Just because the iPad is overpriced, doesn't mean Moto can get away with outpricing the overpriced.
Would be a tragedy for such a good device to fail or sell poorly purely due to pricing.
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The rumor is that the iPad 2 will be cheaper than the original. If the prices I'm seeing on this are true, and the rumors hold for iPad 2 there is no way I can drop that kind of coin on a Xoom.
TaIz82 said:
Wait....is this wifi only version or have 3G???
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I haven't heard of a wifi only version for Europe. The information available is very vague though.
I don't think we should worry about these pricing rumours. The Nexus S was overpriced for a week before release and the Galaxy Tab was overpriced in the weeks/months before release too. These are almost certainly just guesses, we don't even know if there is an option for carrier subsidy, Wi-Fi only, etc yet
chewlee78 said:
Most of us did not count in the price of the accessories yet… I think we need at least a standard dock which will cost us approximate another US100.
I wont pay more than USD1k for a tablet that does not support SD card, it is too far away from the budget for a tablet. I will focus my attention to the alternative android 3.0 tablets from Asus & Acer which will costs us approximate $400-$700.
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It says that SD is supported after a "software update" on Motorola's official spec sheet.
Does this mean it won't support it out of the box???
robbiev80 said:
It says that SD is supported after a "software update" on Motorola's official spec sheet.
Does this mean it won't support it out of the box???
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No. They wanted to release it early, so they are going to add SD support and enable the LTE bands on the data model.
robbiev80 said:
It says that SD is supported after a "software update" on Motorola's official spec sheet.
Does this mean it won't support it out of the box???
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My past experience with android device told me not to trust any update/upgrade promise from the manufacturer. The update/upgrade will never come true as soon as your expectation. with this unacceptable high pricing, I wont consider it until it had supported SD card.
BTW, does Xoom support USB Host mode?
If another Android device has it I would think the Xoom would have it or easily get hacked to it.
Seems Mr Jobs was correct when he said that others could not match the pricing of the iPad.
I will go nuts if I pre-order and the price drops after a few weeks/months...
They should put it on contract £25 a month would be cool.then everyone could get one
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I'm not sure why everybody is going nuts because some "eXpensive" retailer has put a random pre-order price on their website.
Facts:
- Samsung Galaxy S pre-order on "eXpensive" website was €799,- (waaay overpriced)
- "eXpensive" already replaced their Xoom price with "Price Not Known"
- I've seen pre-order prices for Xoom as high as $1023,-
Chill everybody... just wait for Motorola to give us the official price point. Any day now.
I don't think that Motorola will make the same mistake as Samsung did with their Tab.
As for the iPad fans: I seriously doubt that the iPad2 will be cheaper then the current iPad. Expect the current iPad to drop in price, and better hope (for your sake) that the iPad2 price is equal but not higher then the iPad is today.
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As for the iPad fans: I seriously doubt that the iPad2 will be cheaper then the current iPad. Expect the current iPad to drop in price, and better hope (for your sake) that the iPad2 price is equal but not higher then the iPad is today.
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I only quote this from my brother in law. He works for an Apple Authorized reseller. I forgot the TIFWIW tags in my initial comments on that.
Looks like an 800$ US is a minimum...
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/21/motorola-xoom-priced-at-800-at-a-minimum-according-to-verizon/
Ok, before you all get your panties in a bunch. This WILL NOT be the pricing of the Xoom when it launches and I will give my left arm for that.
Can any of you remember back a couple months back before the Galaxy Tab launched in the UK? Prices were being quoted in the range of £650 and like a week after it launched you could get it for damn nearly half that.
It's these stupid sites like eXpansys and the like that jack up the pre-release prices before any actual prices have been announced.
At MAX it may start off at £599 on some sites then then sharply come down to between £450-550....that's my opinion but like they say 'opinions are like @ssholes, everybody's got them...'
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Seems expensive http://crave.cnet.co.uk/laptops/motorola-xoom-price-revealed-already-zooming-skywards-50002167/
Was pretty keen on getting one until I saw this. Surely they should be pricing it to be competitive with other tablets out there.
Also, anyone know anything about what the launch date will be in the UK?
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Just don't buy one on the day of release, the thing about android is that the prices drop faster than Bode Miller on a downhill run
Wait a month a pick one up for £475.

Best price on the 101?

Whats the best price anyone has found the 101 at? I found it for $298 at some Mac mail order company but they were out of stock. I wanted to get my woman on for Valentines Day but I really didnt want to pay over $300 for it.
I got mine for $298 with free shipping and a $25 gift card from J&R bringing it to $273...but that was during the holidays and I had to wait like 8 weeks to get it.
Yea, J&R is out of them again.
After searching for a place that just had them in stock for weeks, I finally was able to order one direct from archos yesterday. I am receiving the 8gb model today . It was 299.00 plus 30.00 for overnight shipping.
In December Amazon had them for $299.. free shipping.. I wouldn't pay more than $350.
I got mine off Amazon last week for $349.99 for 16GB with overnight shipping for $3.99 (shipping cheap due to my Prime membership). The next day they was up to $415.99.
So do I win a prize for getting mine for only $273? Seems I got the best price of the people that frequent this forum.
I think the Archos website store is now the best deal.. 101 16G for $349
https://store.archos.com/archos-internet-tablet-p-5005.html
It seems the demand is so high for these that they can't make them fast enough.
I have done a lot of research on Android tablets and the Archos 101 definitely gives you the most bang for the buck! There are a lot of cheaper tablets out there, but they don't have capacitive touch displays and/or cut corners on other specs. Even with the newer tablets coming out that have Honeycomb and dual core aren't as good of a deal.. $700 for a tab is way too much.. worth buying an Archos 101 now and waiting a couple of years for the newer dual core tabs to come down in price.
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worth buying an Archos 101 now and waiting a couple of years for the newer dual core tabs to come down in price.
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Yeah, but then there will be something new like Android Pudding version and quad core processors tablets which will make a dual core running Honeycomb seem stupid and slow.
If you want cutting edge you are going to have to pay the price (which will be $700-900) or you have to come to the stark realization that the cutting edge isn't that much sharper than the other edges. In which case the Archos 70 and 101's are the biggest bang for the buck in in the near future.
I got it from 270€ at Madrid, Spain, from an Archos wholesale.
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Yeah, but then there will be something new like Android Pudding version and quad core processors tablets which will make a dual core running Honeycomb seem stupid and slow.
If you want cutting edge you are going to have to pay the price (which will be $700-900) or you have to come to the stark realization that the cutting edge isn't that much sharper than the other edges. In which case the Archos 70 and 101's are the biggest bang for the buck in in the near future.
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I don't think that Android will ever need more than two cores.. Tablets are fairly new.. Netbooks have been around for a few years and the hardware hasn't changed.
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I don't think that Android will ever need more than two cores.. Tablets are fairly new.. Netbooks have been around for a few years and the hardware hasn't changed.
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And Bill Gates said that no computer will every need more than 640k RAM! But I keed, I keed....
Honestly, I gave up trying to predict where technology will go because I am always wrong. Back in the day I said the internet will fail because who on earth would pay money to do what you can already do for free with BBS systems? I thought the iPad would fail for the same reason many did...it was just a big iTouch, what's the point? I thought Netflix wouldn't last because isn't it easier and more satisfying to just get your video when you want it, the day you want it, etc instead of having to "plan out" your entertainment and hope you feel like that kind of movie the day it arrives?
So yeah...it's easier to say you don't see it going past dual core, but seriously...who would have ever thought a phone would need dual core as well...yet they are coming.
Never underestimate the power of people who want to be parted from their money just to have something better than their neighbors and friends.

Google's Plan A (in partnership with ASUS)

It looks like Google's master plan might be to proliferate the world with $149 7" Android tablet devices under Google's own branding. Cutthroat pricing and with Google's full 1st party support on the software side, it could work.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/alicetruong/2012/03/21/googles-nexus-tablet-could-be-priced-at-149/
A heavy casualty of this is that the $250 Tegra3 ASUS MemoPad might have been canceled.
7'' is to small for my taste... even if is cheaper
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7" is more portable. I've been considering getting a 7" device because I'm thinking I might carry it around more than I do my 10" devices. I was going to wait for the MemoPad to decide. For Google, 7" is where Apple isn't, so there's no direct confrontation with Apple at that size. At that price point, it's less expensive than today's Apple 8GB iPod Touch.
I almost bought one the Sprint or Verizon branded HTC Flyers. ICS was just starting to roll out to them but it is only using a single core processor. Woot & Ben's Outlet had them for around $200 brand new. The lack of computing power was one of the deciding factors. The other was the fact that I didn't really need another tablet.
Now if googles tablet is going to have a quad core Snapdragon processor then I might pick one up for $150.
I agree 7" size is ideal for everyday use
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7" is more portable. I've been considering getting a 7" device because I'm thinking I might carry it around more than I do my 10" devices. I was going to wait for the MemoPad to decide. For Google, 7" is where Apple isn't, so there's no direct confrontation with Apple at that size. At that price point, it's less expensive than today's Apple 8GB iPod Touch.
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I agree a 7" tablet size is ideal for everyday use, it can easily be held in one hand securely without using some sort of a strap-on device. A 7" fits in my pocket a 10" does not.
I have a DELL Streak 7 and a ASUS TF101 and the DS7 gets used much more due to its portability advantages over the TF101 even though I think the TF101 is a superior product
I would be very much interested in a 7" quad core tablet (whether it's the Tegra3 or whoever else's chipset). I would hate to see the ASUS memo get shelved because Google is trying to flood the market with cheap tablets to gain market supremacy.
I'll believe it when I see it @ $149, on the shelf at Best Buy. The Nexus phones were supposed to be unsubsidized and $300 retail, but then we got another run-of-the-mill smartphone for $650, with the only difference being timely software updates.
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I'll believe it when I see it @ $149, on the shelf at Best Buy. The Nexus phones were supposed to be unsubsidized and $300 retail, but then we got another run-of-the-mill smartphone for $650, with the only difference being timely software updates.
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I very much share your cynicism
Talking costs nothing and salespeople do too much of it, ( reminds me of the TI guy bigging his OMAP 5 as the best thing around disregarding the slight caveat that it wasn't really around yet).
I would LOVE to see it though. I'll end up showering the extended family with those.
Target: Amazon
A Google-branded 7" would be slated to go head-to-head against Amazon's Kindle Fire, or even a B&N Nook. No dummies there, the know the money is to be made on subscriptions, app sales, and other software. It's the Polaroid concept....give away the cameras, then charge heavily for the film. Or just like car dealers....they don't make crap when they sell a car, all their money is made on Service, Parts, and accessories.
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Looks like I'm not the only one thinking this -
http://www.pcworld.com/article/252969/why_amazon_cant_win_a_tablet_price_war_against_google.html

Sagging sales...really?

http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2013/11/21/lg-release-g-pad-tablet-more-overseas-markets.html
Gee, I wonder why sales are below expected in the US? Could it be Best Buy's epic failure at promoting the product? The people at BB should be running the NSA; they're better at keeping secrets.
Maybe LG should just rename it the Area 51 Pad...lots of people have heard of it but BB continues to deny it's existence.
No kidding! The Best Buy help weren't aware of it and took forever to find it in "the cage".
LG has officially jumped the shark.
I don't know who is to blame LG or Best Buy or both but it does make you scratch you head in wonder how they plan to sell this tablet based on current marketing an store display. Why give Best Buy an exclusive if they don't plan to display it and sell it? They need to get this in more stores out on display. They also need to drop 30-50 off the price here in the states if they want it to sell it needs to be cheaper than the first iPad mini and the Samsung Tab 3 8 regardless of the specs and it being a better product most Americans don't know specs they know brand name and price.
Ya, BB has this thing in their phone department next to the G2. Like what?
They need this over with the other tablets, let alone the other 8" tablets. Luckily I knew where to look so i can get a hands on before deciding on a purchase online
The two BB near me do not even have it out in the phone area they have a picture of it in the G2 display but not the actual device.
It does feel like that what is otherwise a fantastic tablet will again fail to sell properly. Just like the Samsung 7.7 did in its time. You have to wonder...
BB has no interest in promoting specific products. If the G Pad fails, it makes no difference to them. They are just as happy selling an iPad or a Samsung Note. LG is the one who loses when this product is a flop. It's up to LG to make sure that retailers sell the product. If they made the product attractive to BB, then BB would sell it. The real problem is that LG has not advertised the product, they've priced it too high, and they haven't provided the right incentives to retailers.
A retailer isn't going to give shelf space or attention to a product that is as poorly marketed as the G Pad. If a lot of people were coming into the store asking for it, BB would pay more attention. It's LG who's keeping the product a secret. BB is just following their lead.
And why are BB and Newegg the only authorized dealers?? Why isn't Amazon, Target, Costco, Sam's Club and Walmart selling this? Where are the magazine and TV ads? The billboards? The point of sale kiosks, etc? LG seems to have no serious interest in this product. Any product that was as poorly marketed as this one would fail in the market.
At least my local Best Buy has a white one up for display *in the phone section* away from all the other tablets and readers.
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At least my local Best Buy has a white one up for display *in the phone section* away from all the other tablets and readers.
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I got mine on release date. They didn't have any on display and only one left in stock (other than the one that the guy tried to sell me the display unit and then noticed the computer said it was $1000 for it).
I visited my local Best Buy last night and they still don't have it on display (in tablet or phone area) or in stock. I really don't understand why LG has dropped the ball on this but it seems to be in line with about every other mobile company minus Apple and Samsung. Every display other than the Apple and Samsung displays looked cheap and run down. The Nexus 7 display looked fine, but they have a demo running on all of their models so you can't even get a real feel for how it works. If LG would put a nice display in the tablet area, these things would sell fast. I just hope enough sell to have a decent development community.
LG must not. want to be successful. they had it on display only at. best buy with the mobile phones. No advertising, ovepriced and lackluster support.
Whose poor ideas were this? only. 1 retailer in the US?
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Apparently, US sucks *JOKE*
Here in Europe you can get your G Pad in 95% of all the electronics shops. Its really strange what's going on in the US...
I don't know how well the tablet is selling worldwide but at the biggest electronics store here in Zurich, I think it's doing quite well with the Black version sold out and only a few white versions left. Of course, this could be due to low stock to begin with, I'm not sure. I really hope it does well because I just got mine and it's probably one of the best electronic gadgets I have ever bought.
I'm no stranger to Android (although I haven't spent a great deal of time on the latest hardware such as the HTC One, G2 or Galaxy S4) but I was always a little disappointed by the promise of "buttery smooth performance" from the Jellybean. I have a One X and also another tablet from Pipo running the RK3188 so it's no slouch but both are not what I would call a smooth experience (although my One X became a heck of a lot better after flashing Cyanogenmod). I originally came from iPhones and iPads so I was very disappointed in this regard.
Now with the G Pad, I finally know what "buttery smooth" feels like on an Android. The machine is just incredible with next to no interface lag at all and all the apps zip around without any effort. The Wi-Fi strength is also incredible, picking up my router from distances that my One X, iPad mini or iPhone 4S could never have.
For the sake of LG, I hope it really does well. They deserve it and will hopefully release more products like this in the future.
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I don't know how well the tablet is selling worldwide but at the biggest electronics store here in Zurich, I think it's doing quite well with the Black version sold out and only a few white versions left. Of course, this could be due to low stock to begin with, I'm not sure. I really hope it does well because I just got mine and it's probably one of the best electronic gadgets I have ever bought.
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As you pointed out low stock could mean heavy selling or it could mean low stock. Considering the way it started off in the US, i.e., few retailers and high prices, I'm inclined to think that LG does not have a lot of capacity to manufacture the units. Currently, we're seeing more discounting in the US and few more options for retailers, but it is still not widely sold. Could be that the situation will get better as they produce more units.
Awesome tablet but I just returned mine to BestBuy. I've been burnt before buy buying a killer device that no one else bought. Software updates don't come and accessories don't fit. Very sad that LG made this ridiculous exclusive distribution deal.
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It does feel like that what is otherwise a fantastic tablet will again fail to sell properly. Just like the Samsung 7.7 did in its time. You have to wonder...
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I'm moving to the G Pad from the Lenovo A2109. A great device for the money...
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I played with one at best buy in southern il today it was next to the lg g2. I think I'll love this thing it's the perfect size and seems fast. I figure I'll keep for at least a year maybe longer if no one comes out with a better 8 inch tab. Samsung's note screen sucks I also looked at it today.
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MarkLI88 said:
I don't know who is to blame LG or Best Buy or both but it does make you scratch you head in wonder how they plan to sell this tablet based on current marketing an store display. Why give Best Buy an exclusive if they don't plan to display it and sell it? They need to get this in more stores out on display. They also need to drop 30-50 off the price here in the states if they want it to sell it needs to be cheaper than the first iPad mini and the Samsung Tab 3 8 regardless of the specs and it being a better product most Americans don't know specs they know brand name and price.
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Well Said Mark..
Even though they had no choice but to drop the price, still BestBuy does not even display it.
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BB has no interest in promoting specific products. If the G Pad fails, it makes no difference to them. They are just as happy selling an iPad or a Samsung Note. LG is the one who loses when this product is a flop. It's up to LG to make sure that retailers sell the product. If they made the product attractive to BB, then BB would sell it. The real problem is that LG has not advertised the product, they've priced it too high, and they haven't provided the right incentives to retailers.
A retailer isn't going to give shelf space or attention to a product that is as poorly marketed as the G Pad. If a lot of people were coming into the store asking for it, BB would pay more attention. It's LG who's keeping the product a secret. BB is just following their lead.
And why are BB and Newegg the only authorized dealers?? Why isn't Amazon, Target, Costco, Sam's Club and Walmart selling this? Where are the magazine and TV ads? The billboards? The point of sale kiosks, etc? LG seems to have no serious interest in this product. Any product that was as poorly marketed as this one would fail in the market.
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Well Said Woody.
Fast forward to the present and it's still the same.. BestBuy could care less about this Tablet.. a lot of sales reps still don't know about it and it's still to this day not on display..
And that's sad.
I have posted similar thoughts about lack of promotion and availability for this tablet in other forums. It's very strange to have such a product available only at one B&M retailer (BB), and one online store (Newegg), and as a GPE version. With that approach you would think LG would have dumped a bunch of money into promoting the G Pad at BB. I've seen enough complaints in the reviews at Newegg (and elsewhere for units purchased from Newegg) to think they were chosen to handle the returns, refurbished units, and otherwise 'unclean' units.
Having said that, our BB started displaying a black version and a white version G Pad a couple of weeks ago. Last week they price matched Newegg's $280 for the black version for me when they were selling theirs for $350. The sales rep I got knew all about the G Pad and started trying to sell me on it but I already knew everything I needed to know.
Now VerizonWireless has started to sell it as well, with LTE. That could be a breakthrough for this tablet, especially with the pricing model they have ($100 with a 2 year contract through tomorrow, $149 after that, and $300 with no contract). Those prices are pretty enticing, I think, especially compared to BB's $350 everyday price for the WiFi only model. It will be interesting to see what happens with this tablet now that VW is in the picture.
Another thought. I've wondered, especially since the GPE came out, if maybe the G Pad is a trial run for a Nexus 8 replacement for the Nexus 7 and maybe a new Nexus 10 as well that a lot of folks are waiting for. Google got a lot of heat for the issues many folks had with the Gen2 Nexus 7 built by ASUS. Maybe they are testing the waters with LG for their next generation Nexus tablets and they and LG aren't necessarily concerned about how much money they make from this one. Just a thought.

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